Re: [neonixie-l] Re: Nixie driver problem when going over 170 VDC

2013-05-14 Thread Jens Grabner
I have simulate the scematic. You need a resistor between NE555 out and Gate Q1. I think 150 Ohm is good. The peek current is verry high, about the input capacity of the gate from the mosfet. Jens Am 14.05.2013 02:38, schrieb threeneurons: Is there some hand wired perfboard circuitry

Re: [neonixie-l] Re: Nixie driver problem when going over 170 VDC

2013-05-14 Thread nix
Hello Jens, thank you for your help. How did you simulate it? Kind regards Sergio On Tuesday, 14 May 2013 08:46:54 UTC+2, JensG wrote: I have simulate the scematic. You need a resistor between NE555 out and Gate Q1. I think 150 Ohm is good. The peek current is verry high, about the input

Re: [neonixie-l] Nixie driver problem when going over 170 VDC

2013-05-14 Thread Per Jensen
Hand wired perfboard ? it's worse than that... Look at the board layout in the corner regarding the SMPS, it's a luck that it actually works :-O https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-PsF8r0jvHEQ/UZDN7eiidtI/BH4/x_mkJRi4IPU/s1600/nixieclock_v1.1_Leiterplatte.jpg That layout is _flawed_ //

Re: [neonixie-l] Re: Nixie driver problem when going over 170 VDC

2013-05-14 Thread Jens Grabner
The most scematic i simulate with LTspice http://www.linear.com/designtools/software/#LTspice. It have no cost and is with no limits. Good for begiining ar this documents from a german teacher. http://www.gunthard-kraus.de/LTSwitcherCAD/SwitcherCAD-Tutorial_English/pdf-File/

Re: [neonixie-l] Nixie driver problem when going over 170 VDC

2013-05-14 Thread nix
Hi Per, I found some errors myself, which I would like to correct in version 2 of the pcb. Your comments below unfortunately do not help at all. What exactly is wrong with the layout of the SMPS Thank you for your input. Sergio On Tuesday, 14 May 2013 10:12:41 UTC+2, zapro wrote: Hand wired

Re: [neonixie-l] Nixie driver problem when going over 170 VDC

2013-05-14 Thread Per Jensen
Hi Sergio. The SMPS-part of your Circuit should not be in close contact with the rest of the Circuit. The parts are all over the place on your board. They should be together in an area of less than 1in. square. Remember to keep the gate lead short and fat, and supply tracks short and fat too.

Re: [neonixie-l] Nixie driver problem when going over 170 VDC

2013-05-14 Thread JohnK
Sergio, I am not sure if you think that Per is having a go at you. He won't be. If you look back at the topics in this group at both Google Groups and at Yahoo Groups you will find a lot of discussion of power supply merits and pitfalls. Maybe you have not been in the group for very long; those

[neonixie-l] Re: Nixie driver problem when going over 170 VDC

2013-05-14 Thread Dekatron42
Here's an example of a NE555 Nixie PSU with layout that shows the fat tracks on the PCB: http://bleuchez.wordpress.com/2011/09/05/a-low-cost-nixie-tube-power-supply/ (it could be made even tighter but it works). At the end of the text there are also references to a design by Nick De Smith :

[neonixie-l] Re: Futurlec?

2013-05-14 Thread Terry S
Has anyone tried their PCB service? Prices seem cheap enough. On May 13, 7:53 pm, threeneurons threeneur...@yahoo.com wrote: I just got a package, that I ordered from Futurlec. It took almost a month to get here. As not to alarm anyone, I can explain why. One of those weeks could be attributed

[neonixie-l] Re: Futurlec?

2013-05-14 Thread Smiffy
On Tuesday, May 14, 2013 10:15:53 PM UTC+9:30, Terry S wrote: Has anyone tried their PCB service? Prices seem cheap enough. I actually found them slow and relatively expensive. Now I wouldn't consider using anyone but Laen's service at www.oshpark.com unless I need a BIG board - in which

Re: [neonixie-l] Futurlec?

2013-05-14 Thread Smiffy
On Tuesday, May 14, 2013 10:23:07 AM UTC+9:30, threeneurons wrote: I just got a package, that I ordered from Futurlec. It took almost a month to get here. As not to alarm anyone, I can explain why. One of those weeks could be attributed to my local post office, or specifically, my mail

Re: [neonixie-l] Re: Nixie driver problem when going over 170 VDC

2013-05-14 Thread David Forbes
Sergio, I see the problem. As others have said, your PC board layout may be correct for your net list, but it is completely wrong for a switching power supply. The Nixie power supply design by Nick DeSmith is a good one. Copy it exactly. When doing a PC board layout, the first thing to do

Re: [neonixie-l] Re: Futurlec?

2013-05-14 Thread Scott Burris
Even those prices seem expensive to me. Take a board 5cmx5cm, roughly 4 sq in. At oshpark that's $20 for 3 boards. At http://www.seeedstudio.com http://www.seeedstudio.com/, a 5cmx5cm board will run $9.90 and you get 10 boards. That's considerably cheaper, but you may have to wait a bit to

Re: [neonixie-l] Re: Futurlec?

2013-05-14 Thread Spencer W
I use http://www.hackvana.com for my boards, even cheaper than seeedstudio! Sent from my iPhone On May 14, 2013, at 9:05 PM, Scott Burris electrosc...@yahoo.com wrote: Even those prices seem expensive to me. Take a board 5cmx5cm, roughly 4 sq in. At oshpark that's $20 for 3 boards. At

Re: [neonixie-l] Futurlec?

2013-05-14 Thread threeneurons
Smiffy wrote: ... I settled on Element14, with whom I managed to wangle a good discount. Element14, is part of Newark/Farnell. That's the big leagues, up there with Mouser Digikey. Much more professional outfits. These are also the tree killers. Both Mouser and Digi-key have catalogs as