Re: [neonixie-l] resistance of filament warm vs cold

2013-12-06 Thread Charles MacDonald
On 13-12-06 06:06 AM, Gideon Wackers wrote: -filament resistance differs because it is cold Filament resistance is different when cold, which is why Incandescent Light bulbs generally fail at turn on if they are going to fail. -- Charles MacDonald Stittsville Ontario cm...@z

Re: [neonixie-l] resistance of filament warm vs cold

2013-12-06 Thread Adam Jacobs
Oops. Somewhere in my wrestling with the MS Office Equation editor, I messed the equation up. :) V_out = (V_in*(V_out/I_L))/(R_1+(V_out/I_L)) R_1=((V_in*(V_out/I_L))/V_out)-(V_out/I_L) On 12/6/2013 11:59 AM, Gideon Wackers wrote: 1, 5v 100ma is correct. It could be because i am viewing

Re: [neonixie-l] resistance of filament warm vs cold

2013-12-06 Thread Adam Jacobs
Hi Gideon, You're doing it wrong. :) We do not normally refer to filaments by their impedance, but rather by their power draw. What is the equivalent resistor value of a 100watt incandescent lightbulb? There isn't one, because filaments and resistors behave differently. For starters, a filame

Re: [neonixie-l] resistance of filament warm vs cold

2013-12-06 Thread Gideon Wackers
Yeah I could not see them glow in a dim lit room so :) Op vrijdag 6 december 2013 16:08:03 UTC+1 schreef nixiebunny: > > I don't know much about that tube. However, I do know: > > 1. Filaments have lower resistance when cold. > > 2. VFD filaments should not get bright enough to see clearly. A ti

Re: [neonixie-l] resistance of filament warm vs cold

2013-12-06 Thread Gideon Wackers
http://www.tubeclockdb.com/vfd-tubes/100-simple-vfd-tester.html this is what I did But I'll try it again tomorrow, maybe one of the connections was bad because I had to hold the wires against the batteries at 4 different points :P Op vrijdag 6 december 2013 16:11:42 UTC+1 schreef Spencer: > >

Re: [neonixie-l] resistance of filament warm vs cold

2013-12-06 Thread Spencer W
Did you hook the 17.5v to the grid and segment you wanted to light up? It should be a faint glow Sent from my iPhone > On Dec 6, 2013, at 5:41 AM, Gideon Wackers > wrote: > > I just tried it carefully with a 1,5 volt battery, the filaments do not light > up (good thing). but I could not get

Re: [neonixie-l] resistance of filament warm vs cold

2013-12-06 Thread David Forbes
I don't know much about that tube. However, I do know: 1. Filaments have lower resistance when cold. 2. VFD filaments should not get bright enough to see clearly. A tiny glow in a dark room, maybe. On 12/6/13 4:06 AM, Gideon Wackers wrote: I just measured the filament resistance of a IV-11 t

Re: [neonixie-l] resistance of filament warm vs cold

2013-12-06 Thread Gideon Wackers
I just tried it carefully with a 1,5 volt battery, the filaments do not light up (good thing). but I could not get a segment to light up I only had two 9 volt batteries and that gave me 17,5 volt which is not enough. Btw I did notice that when I hooked up the 1,5 volt battery or took it away t

Re: [neonixie-l] resistance of filament warm vs cold

2013-12-06 Thread Gideon Wackers
http://www.tube-tester.com/sites/nixie/dat_arch/IV-11_2.pdf IV-11 tubes use 1,5 volt for the filaments according to the datasheets I found Op vrijdag 6 december 2013 12:16:01 UTC+1 schreef Spencer: > > I used this as a reference for mine. If I remember right, it's around > 1.15volts for the fil

Re: [neonixie-l] resistance of filament warm vs cold

2013-12-06 Thread Spencer W
I used this as a reference for mine. If I remember right, it's around 1.15volts for the filament and 100mA. So with 5v power and 2 in series, 27ohm resistor though you want 2 watts. http://led.linear1.org/led.wiz Sent from my iPhone > On Dec 6, 2013, at 5:06 AM, Gideon Wackers > wrote: > >

[neonixie-l] resistance of filament warm vs cold

2013-12-06 Thread Gideon Wackers
I just measured the filament resistance of a IV-11 tube, according to my multimeter that is roughly 5-5,5 ohm (assuming it measures perfectly at such a low resistance). But I calculated something different; I'm going to wire the filaments of two tubes in series and feed them 5 volt though a res