Re: [neonixie-l] Misbehaving NL803

2016-05-27 Thread Niek
You should be happy: now you don't have to install a blue LED underneath it to light it up: you can sell them for a premium on eBay! ;-) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "neonixie-l" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails

Re: [neonixie-l] My NixiChron is sick, what do I do?

2016-05-22 Thread Niek
It may be simpler to delay it with a couple of NOT gates (e.g. you use a 7400 and use 2 NANDs in series with their inputs tied together for an approx. 20ns delay). This clock seems quite poorly designed though if it uses such low tolerances, maybe it's better to switch to something better and

Re: [neonixie-l] My NixiChron is sick, what do I do?

2016-05-21 Thread Niek
Nice to have the scope shots. Previously, you mentioned "The clock signal is nice and clean, but the data signal has a bizarre triangle wave on it.": did you not reproduce this particular issue? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "neonixie-l" group.

[neonixie-l] HV-XXXX Driver IC's from Microchip

2016-05-20 Thread Niek
Alternatively, you can also use discrete BJT's or MOSFET's to drive your cathodes. If you have a multiplexed design (so you would e.g. only need them for driving 2 nixies at a time in a 6 digit clock) it's quite doable and probably cheaper/simpler/cleaner than using that HV chip + level

RE: [neonixie-l] Jeff Thomas GPSII

2016-05-19 Thread Niek
I'm not sure I'd recommend the pvelectronics clocks. I know they seem to be quite popular, but they appear to be using the HV5622 out of spec. It's strange to see so many nixie clock designs use these chips out of spec, when there are many other options to do this correctly. Datasheet:

Re: [neonixie-l] Re: My NixiChron is sick, what do I do?

2016-05-16 Thread Niek
"In my 50 years or so of worinkg on electronic equipment, I have quite often seen Vcc and Gnd, and others very often omitted from schematic diagrams, to help eliminate clutter. Quite often a separate page or diagram will then be used to show various, power and ground distributions. This is

[neonixie-l] Re: My NixiChron is sick, what do I do?

2016-05-13 Thread Niek
"It's not even a schematic error." I disagree: - you want your schematic to be consistent, in this case it's clearly not as most parts display their ground/power pins connected, except the MAX232A. - you want it to be unambiguous: obviously, it's not. - if you work with multiple voltage levels

[neonixie-l] Re: My NixiChron is sick, what do I do?

2016-05-12 Thread Niek
You can have a look at the schematic of the NixiSat (which was posted here earlier - not the NixiChron, but I assume it's similar: https://docs.google.com/viewer?a=v=forums=MDEwMDEwODgzMDkzNzgxMTU3NTQBMDI2MDI2MDkxODMwNDU5NDc0NjYBN3poTlVQTHJxcG9KATAuMQEBdjI=0) Interestingly, at least in that

Re: [neonixie-l] My NixiChron is sick, what do I do?

2016-05-11 Thread Niek
Indeed, it may be worth trying to run the clock from lower voltages, e.g. 9V or 7V instead of 12V, so the VDD-2V Vih is not so far off the mark. I think the cascading issue mentioned above shouldn't be a problem at the likely low clock frequency. But he mentioned a triangle wave on the data

Re: [neonixie-l] My NixiChron is sick, what do I do?

2016-05-10 Thread Niek
By the way, someone posted a Nixisat schematic to this group before, which may well be similar to the NixiChron. Maybe it can help you. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "neonixie-l" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from

Re: [neonixie-l] My NixiChron is sick, what do I do?

2016-05-10 Thread Niek
Hmm, sounds like that capacitor may have reached the end of its life. Interesting about the triangle wave: can you post some scope shots? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "neonixie-l" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails

[neonixie-l] Re: My NixiChron is sick, what do I do?

2016-05-10 Thread Niek
Quincy, were you able to fix your clock? It may be helpful to make a little video and post it on YouTube so that we get a better idea of how it's failing. Also, try it with and without the GPS plugged in, and try reseating the MCU as suggested. Also take some close up pictures of the circuit

[neonixie-l] Re: Need help with a tubehobby clock overheating

2015-04-11 Thread Niek
11, 2015 at 4:16:42 PM UTC+2, Kiran Otter wrote: Niek, I don't see any problem with Q4, and it's been in there for 7+ years. If the recommendation is to replace it, I can do that.. the bummer is every time I need a cap or some other part, it costs a dollar plus another $6 to ship

[neonixie-l] Re: Need help with a tubehobby clock overheating

2015-04-10 Thread Niek
Nice that the SMPS made it run cooler. I didn't expect it to fix the ghosting issue - that's probably a timing issue in the software, as I explained earlier. Would have been very strange if that had been related to the 7805. As for the hot mosfet: can you check Q4? It's the small transistor

[neonixie-l] Re: Need help with a tubehobby clock overheating

2015-03-28 Thread Niek
Glad removing the heatsink seemed to solved the issue. It's interesting it has this behavior next to the blanked out tube: does it have the same behavior when using 24 hour mode? (if it has such a mode, or any other mode where it doesn't blank out any tubes). Blanking out a single tube (of a

[neonixie-l] Re: Need help with a tubehobby clock overheating

2015-03-28 Thread Niek
sources, surely one of them will be good (and most probably all will be good). Try disabling that leading 0 blanking in the future - it's not very good to do that. On Saturday, March 28, 2015 at 11:23:35 PM UTC+1, Kiran Otter wrote: Niek, Yes, it's showing the seconds in the hour digit

[neonixie-l] Re: Need help with a tubehobby clock overheating

2015-03-28 Thread Niek
Do you have a scope? Is the output of the 7805 still a clean 5V? How about the output of the HV regulator? Can you measure the current going into the clock? (with your multimeter) I'd be a bit suprised if the cause is the driver chips, because after replacing them it didn't seem to improve a

[neonixie-l] Re: Need help with a tubehobby clock overheating

2015-03-28 Thread Niek
You can of course get a new kit, but it will be much more fun and give you a better sense of accomplishment if you fix this one - and since I don't see anything inherently wrong with the design, you should be able to fix it fairly easily. Try lowering that input voltage to 9V, and could you

[neonixie-l] Re: Need help with a tubehobby clock overheating

2015-03-28 Thread Niek
, since it's not in the original design, and i'm wondering if your paste is electrically conductive at all (remember, the metal tab of the 7805 is connected to ground, and the one for the IRF640 is connected to the drain). On Saturday, March 28, 2015 at 7:27:58 PM UTC+1, Niek wrote: You can

Re: [neonixie-l] Re: Multiplexing noise

2015-02-25 Thread Niek
Perhaps you can post the code that does the multiplexing - it may shed some light on this issue. By the way, there's nothing wrong with multiplexing - and it's not that hard to get it right, just follow a few simple rules like the dead time, and you also haven't mentioned the frequency yet,

Re: [neonixie-l] Re: Multiplexing noise

2015-02-24 Thread Niek
Does the issue happen more to certain tubes/digits than to others? If so, it could have something to do with the layout of the traces: i'd be especially worried about long runs of high voltage lines parallel to the lines switching the transistors. E.g., in your PCB, the trace at the very

Re: [neonixie-l] Re: Multiplexing noise

2015-02-23 Thread Niek
Interesting. Can you take some pictures of the problem? And maybe provide the schematic? (at least of the part driving the nixies). On Monday, February 23, 2015 at 1:15:08 PM UTC+1, joenixie wrote: Hi Yall, Thanks for the inputs, Sadly direct drive is not an option, I just don't have the

Re: [neonixie-l] Re: New Nixie watch with custom made tube - close to prototype

2015-01-31 Thread Niek
Looks great! So you Dalibor produced a new type of nixie which has all the 4 digits included in a single glass enclosure? That's quite an achievement, really impressive! Definitely a Kickstarter-worthy project :) And of course there are some other nixie watches out there, and while cool, they

[neonixie-l] Re: Any help please?

2015-01-16 Thread Niek
Can you post a schematic of the driving part of the nixies? So, including the voltage used, current limiting resistors, etc. My first thought would be that you need to up your resistors to higher values. On Thursday, January 15, 2015 at 6:00:11 AM UTC+1, Jan Arturo Felsner wrote: Hello guys,

[neonixie-l] Re: Enough air circulation for this Nixie clock on book shelf cabinet?

2014-10-05 Thread Niek
Hello, Do you have the schematics for this clock? This may show whether or not some effort was put into designing an efficient (cool) power supply. On Tuesday, September 30, 2014 4:46:41 AM UTC+2, Dman777 wrote: I just got this 6 digit ZM5660 clock that I love. The middle part gets quite

[neonixie-l] Re: Nixie Tube Trouble

2014-09-13 Thread Niek
Remember also (from the earlier discussion) that the anode drivers are completely out of spec on this design (which may have caused the flickering). So, you can expect anything with a badly designed clock. I would just not bother with this clock anymore, as its design seems to have too many

Re: [neonixie-l] Re: Cool clock with 6 x Z568M + 6 spare tubes...

2014-09-11 Thread Niek
I never read any evidence in datasheets or elsewhere that tells me multiplexed tubes last shorter than directly driven tubes, despite the somewhat higher current required for similar brightness. Is this really the case? What do you base this on? In LED's, this generally evens out, and the

[neonixie-l] Re: Nixie-Clock-IN-12 Clock Is Extremely Warm

2014-09-09 Thread Niek
From looking at the schematics you provided in an earlier post about the flickering issue, it's probably caused by the SMPS (switched mode power supply) that provides the high voltage (around 175V) to the nixies. It's using a 34063, which can't drive a mosfet very well by itself: ideally you

[neonixie-l] Re: Fuzzy digits, fried K155ID1?

2014-08-05 Thread Niek
Could you post the schematics of your clock? That way, it'll be a lot easier to see if there's something wrong with the design. On Tuesday, August 5, 2014 4:38:39 AM UTC+2, StoopKid wrote: https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-dh0pc4jYgvQ/U-BDeKATYII/DGo/u_-513wHCi0/s1600/unnamed.jpg I

[neonixie-l] Re: Strange Strobe Behavior on my Nixie Clock

2014-07-28 Thread Niek
with the order and slight delays in which the anode's and cathodes are enabled. If I were you, i'd either send the clock back and ask money back, or consider it an interesting learning project and try some of the above suggestions. Good luck! Niek On Monday, July 28, 2014 12:47:31 AM UTC+2