Re: [neonixie-l] Neon signs

2022-05-14 Thread gregebert
It's the current that kills (100-200mA). I acquired a 5kV / 30mA neon sign transformer when I was a teenager, did a lot of experiments with it, and never got shocked. Every now-and-then I still fire it up for a few zaps, but I'm not scared because I'm cautious. Due to it's construction, it's not

Re: [neonixie-l] Neon signs

2022-05-13 Thread Charles MacDonald
On 2022-05-12 13:38, liam bartosiewicz wrote: High voltage like that from a microwave oven transformer terrifies me, I’ve only just begun to make things that take power directly from mains and not a wall wart. It’s no wonder why people say MOTs kill more electronics hobbyists than anything else

Re: [neonixie-l] Neon signs

2022-05-13 Thread liam bartosiewicz
High voltage like that from a microwave oven transformer terrifies me, I’ve only just begun to make things that take power directly from mains and not a wall wart. It’s no wonder why people say MOTs kill more electronics hobbyists than anything else. > On May 12, 2022, at 10:17 AM, gregebert w

Re: [neonixie-l] Neon signs

2022-05-12 Thread Adrian Godwin
In the region of 30 dead .. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FBeSKL9zVro&t=3s On Thu, May 12, 2022 at 8:04 PM Mac Doktor wrote: > > On May 12, 2022, at 1:17 PM, gregebert wrote: > > > I was really good at processing. 8D > > And you survived to tell about it. Bombarding is pretty dangerous, an

Re: [neonixie-l] Neon signs

2022-05-12 Thread Mac Doktor
> On May 12, 2022, at 1:17 PM, gregebert wrote: > > > I was really good at processing. 8D > > And you survived to tell about it. Bombarding is pretty dangerous, and it's > the main reason why I decided not to get into neon art If you're not comfortable with something don't do it. That advice

Re: [neonixie-l] Neon signs

2022-05-12 Thread gregebert
> I was really good at processing. 8D And you survived to tell about it. Bombarding is pretty dangerous, and it's the main reason why I decided not to get into neon art, the other being toxics such as mercury and who knows what other nasty things come out of phosphor-coated tubes being heated.

Re: [neonixie-l] Neon signs

2022-05-12 Thread Mac Doktor
> On May 12, 2022, at 4:31 AM, 'Grahame' via neonixie-l > mailto:neonixie-l@googlegroups.com>> wrote: > > Contains neon and glows: > > https://www.uniqlo.com/jp/en/contents/lifewear-magazine/hit-the-lights/ > > > A shor

Re: [neonixie-l] Neon signs

2022-05-12 Thread jb-electronics
Thanks for sharing! Jens On 2022-05-12 4:31 a.m., 'Grahame' via neonixie-l wrote: Contains neon and glows: https://www.uniqlo.com/jp/en/contents/lifewear-magazine/hit-the-lights/ A short magazine article. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "neonix

[neonixie-l] Neon signs

2022-05-12 Thread 'Grahame' via neonixie-l
Contains neon and glows: https://www.uniqlo.com/jp/en/contents/lifewear-magazine/hit-the-lights/ A short magazine article. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "neonixie-l" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an

[neonixie-l] Neon Signs reveal profound Hidden Messages

2016-12-24 Thread Jon D.
I saw this on Facebook...too bad the photos are in black and white. "In his series *Here Not There*, artist Camilo Matiz dishes out truth bombs using a clever installation of light and reflection." http://www.lostateminor.com/2016/12/19/these-neon-signs-reveal-profound-hidden-messages-in-their-r

Re: [neonixie-l] Neon Signs

2016-05-13 Thread Nick
The thing about MOTs is they are built to a price and have some quirks, e.g. one end of the secondary is connected to the core/ground. If cascading MOTs, generally you would disconnect the wire from the core and daisy-chain the secondaries but that then means that there is suddenly 2000V (or a m

Re: [neonixie-l] Neon Signs

2016-05-13 Thread Jonathan Peakall
I have done a 2X2 series/parallel and a 4 in series. I used mineral oil. There are better oils but I could get 5 gallon buckets of mineral oil from a local feed store. You also usually need to add some current limiting. A small Tesla coil won't hurt anything. :-0 Jonathan On 5/13/2016 3:28

Re: [neonixie-l] Neon Signs

2016-05-13 Thread gregebert
> > > Plus, series/parallel 'em under oil for a VERY nasty HV power supply. > [...] Curious how many you've cascaded, and what kind of oil you use. I've been tempted to build a Tesla coil for many years, but we live too close to an airport so I'm concerned about the RFI impact on comm & naviga

Re: [neonixie-l] Neon Signs

2016-05-13 Thread Jonathan Peakall
Ya beat me to it. Plus, series/parallel 'em under oil for a VERY nasty HV power supply. I've run Tesla coils on them and other silly things. But they are QUITE lethal. I grab every big older MOT i see. The new ones, meh. Jonathan A MOT actually IS currently limited using the same stray flux

Re: [neonixie-l] Neon Signs

2016-05-13 Thread NeonJohn
On 05/13/2016 01:57 PM, gregebert wrote: > NEVER use a microwave oven transformer; they are deadly because there is no > current-limiting, and their voltage is probably too low anyways. A MOT actually IS currently limited using the same stray flux technology as neon transformers. If you look

Re: [neonixie-l] Neon Signs

2016-05-13 Thread gregebert
Transformers specifically designed for neon signs are perfect because they are intentionally current-limited, and the exact voltage isn't critical. I've lit all sorts of neon tubes with my 5kV sign transformer. I've had mine for 40+ years and never got shocked (only slight tingle). I don't kno

Re: [neonixie-l] Neon Signs

2016-05-12 Thread Mike Harrison
On Fri, 13 May 2016 09:02:52 +1000, you wrote: >Sorry if this is the wrong group. I have been offered a large quantity of >vintage neon tubes from old signs, "burgers", "restaurant" "cafe", that >sort of thing, together with straight & curved lines. How do I find out the >value? I can test them.

Re: [neonixie-l] Neon Signs

2016-05-12 Thread NeonJohn
Don't want to sound flippant but they're worth what you can sell 'em for. Watch ebay and see what free pieces of neon go for. recognizable shapes and letters will bring more. FWIW, I get $30 for 9" plain block letters that I've collected. More for script, especially if it says something. $20 f

Re: [neonixie-l] Neon Signs

2016-05-12 Thread 'Terry S' via neonixie-l
They work "well enough". But the output voltage is unspecified, so expect that some good tubes will not light up fully, and some bad tubes may still light up partially. Experience will help you tell the two apart. Terry On Thursday, May 12, 2016 at 7:49:39 PM UTC-5, celephicus wrote: > > Are th

Re: [neonixie-l] Neon Signs

2016-05-12 Thread Tom Harris
Are the cheap fluorescent testers on ebay that cost $15 or so and take 4 AA batteries any good? Tom Harris On 13 May 2016 at 10:43, Tom Harris wrote: > I have several neon transformers that I could use for testing, one with HV > leads ending in croc clips. I call it Cousin Vinnie, as if there

Re: [neonixie-l] Neon Signs

2016-05-12 Thread Tom Harris
I have several neon transformers that I could use for testing, one with HV leads ending in croc clips. I call it Cousin Vinnie, as if there's a problem, Cousin Vinnie will fix them :) Still a pocket tester that will not kill you outright sounds a good idea. I've seen sparkies using them to test flu

Re: [neonixie-l] Neon Signs

2016-05-12 Thread Nick de Smith
Not the wrong place at all. There are Neon tube testers, small battery powered units, that can test to see it if the tubes are OK. Where abouts are you located - there may at be a member near you who can help or lend you a tester... Nick On 13 May 2016 00:02:52 BST, Tom Harris wrote: >Sorry i

[neonixie-l] Neon Signs

2016-05-12 Thread Tom Harris
Sorry if this is the wrong group. I have been offered a large quantity of vintage neon tubes from old signs, "burgers", "restaurant" "cafe", that sort of thing, together with straight & curved lines. How do I find out the value? I can test them. Tom Harris