Re: [neonixie-l] Re: GeekKlok and FLW up for grabs

2012-12-09 Thread Raymond Weisling
Hi David, Thank you for your kind and loving comments. As one of the first charter members of our old Neonixie-L, I would be honoroed by your offer to host the files. Several others have offered but I grant the honor to you as an old friend, charter member, and one of the great talents in

Re: [neonixie-l] Re: GeekKlok and FLW up for grabs

2012-12-09 Thread Raymond Weisling
On Monday, December 3, 2012 7:48:16 PM UTC+7, Mimewar wrote: Crawl back under your slimy rock Ray. No ones buying. On Dec 2, 2012, at 7:43 PM, Raymond Weisling zetali...@gmail.comjavascript: wrote: Also I would include a number of different drawings for laser-cut acrylic cases that

Re: [neonixie-l] Re: GeekKlok and FLW up for grabs

2012-12-07 Thread Quixotic Nixotic
On 6 Dec 2012, at 07:29, Raymond Weisling wrote: 6. The user manuals and other buyer documentation in PDF form and in FreeHand 8 files (the originals from which the PDFs are made. It may not be easy to use the FH8 files, but the stuff is there. I still use FreeHand MX on a legacy machine

Re: [neonixie-l] Re: GeekKlok and FLW up for grabs

2012-12-07 Thread Frank Bemelman
: Quixotic Nixotic Sent: Thursday, December 06, 2012 10:47 PM To: neonixie-l@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [neonixie-l] Re: GeekKlok and FLW up for grabs I am really sorry Ray has encountered such a catalogue of misfortunes in his life. Equally I feel the pain of those whose orders were unfulfilled

Re: [neonixie-l] Re: GeekKlok and FLW up for grabs

2012-12-07 Thread caliburgers
or an algorithm to create pronounceable/meaningless words, then you basically have everything. Frank -Oorspronkelijk bericht- From: Quixotic Nixotic Sent: Thursday, December 06, 2012 10:47 PM To: neonixie-l@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [neonixie-l] Re: GeekKlok and FLW up for grabs

Re: [neonixie-l] Re: GeekKlok and FLW up for grabs

2012-12-07 Thread Sean Voisen
On Fri, Dec 7, 2012 at 2:05 AM, Frank Bemelman bemel...@franktechniek.nlwrote: The true value lies in the _idea_ of forming 4-letter words. If you have a predefined list of 4-letter words or an algorithm to create pronounceable/meaningless words, then you basically have everything. Regarding

Re: [neonixie-l] Re: GeekKlok and FLW up for grabs

2012-12-07 Thread Dekatron42
There are many free four letter word webpages related to scrabble, just google some and You'll find them. It wouldn't be that hard to add them up. /Martin -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups neonixie-l group. To post to this group, send an email to

Re: [neonixie-l] Re: GeekKlok and FLW up for grabs

2012-12-06 Thread Shane Ellis
Good on you Ray! One step closer to redemption. Though I probably won't benefit from your products, I'm sure some in this group will. Here's to a better future! On Dec 6, 2012, at 1:29 AM, Raymond Weisling zetalink@gmail.com wrote: I have tested the waters and find it infested with hungry

Re: [neonixie-l] Re: GeekKlok and FLW up for grabs

2012-12-06 Thread David Forbes
On 12/6/12 12:29 AM, Raymond Weisling wrote: I have tested the waters and find it infested with hungry gators and crocs. ;-) So here is what I will do. I will give away all intellectual property for these several products and variations thereof. ... Ray, I'm glad that you came to this

Re: [neonixie-l] Re: GeekKlok and FLW up for grabs

2012-12-06 Thread Instrument Resources of America
Yes Ray the waters are filled with, as you put it, 'gators and crocs' that YOU helped put there. HOWEVER, if you actually do come through this time, and really do place ALL of the intellectual property into the public domain. I would be tempted to contribute to an established fund via

[neonixie-l] Re: GeekKlok and FLW up for grabs

2012-12-06 Thread Michel
Hi Ray, What's happened with your FLW clocks in the past has nothing to do with me as I am just a newbie. I did follow this post for a few reasons, 1, I initially felt sorry for you and I thought someone needs to help this guy out, 2 after hearing what had happened before, it is interesting to

Re: [neonixie-l] Re: GeekKlok and FLW up for grabs

2012-12-06 Thread Frank Bemelman
I also have $20, shared as 0/100. 0 for Ray and 100 for the others. -Oorspronkelijk bericht- From: Michel Sent: Thursday, December 06, 2012 9:59 PM To: neonixie-l Subject: [neonixie-l] Re: GeekKlok and FLW up for grabs Hi Ray, What's happened with your FLW clocks in the past has

Re: [neonixie-l] Re: GeekKlok and FLW up for grabs

2012-12-05 Thread petehand
I'm not going to spit at you Ray, because I did in the end receive the kits I ordered - but well over a year late, by which time they were no use to me. I don't see anyone stepping up to buy the design, though. The processor is obsolete, and some of the other parts are pretty much unobtainable

Re: [neonixie-l] Re: GeekKlok and FLW up for grabs

2012-12-05 Thread Jeff Thomas
On Tuesday, December 4, 2012 8:09:47 PM UTC-7, Raymond Weisling wrote: I feel it is only reasonable that I defend myself from the poison pens that gathered. Hello Ray. Hopefully I can help provide some insight into the damage to the members of the neonixie-L forum, and the (formerly)

Re: [neonixie-l] Re: GeekKlok and FLW up for grabs

2012-12-05 Thread Adam Jacobs
I don't have any stake in the Ray story... Wasn't around back then, never paid any money, never expected any product, etc.. The ensuing drama is nothing more than an interesting story to me.. Entertainment, as it were. I'd like to second the recommendation that the FLW design be given to the

Re: [neonixie-l] Re: GeekKlok and FLW up for grabs

2012-12-05 Thread Raymond Weisling
I have tested the waters and find it infested with hungry gators and crocs. ;-) So here is what I will do. I will give away all intellectual property for these several products and variations thereof. That includes: 1. PCB artwork in Gerber files for the single board and the newer split

Re: [neonixie-l] Re: GeekKlok and FLW up for grabs

2012-12-04 Thread Raymond Weisling
I feel it is only reasonable that I defend myself from the poison pens that gathered. The history is that my company went bankrupt, or was forced to close its doors. These nixie product were not al all the main business We did new product design engineering for a US-client that made health

Re: [neonixie-l] Re: GeekKlok and FLW up for grabs

2012-12-04 Thread Raymond Weisling
One problem is that the microcontroller is not in production any longer and it is an EPROM/OTP type that needs a programmer. I believe that a parts dealer in Jakarta is sitting on hundreds of these (I will check soon). I have a programmer adapted from the original databook from Motorola that

[neonixie-l] Re: GeekKlok and FLW up for grabs

2012-12-03 Thread Nick
This thread is being locked. If you have any issues about this item, or want to bid, mail Ray directly. Nick -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups neonixie-l group. To post to this group, send an email to neonixie-l@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from

Re: [neonixie-l] Re: GeekKlok and FLW up for grabs

2012-12-03 Thread Frank Bemelman
You should lock yourself, Nick. You are turning this place into a kindergarten. From: Nick Sent: Monday, December 03, 2012 10:46 AM To: neonixie-l@googlegroups.com Subject: [neonixie-l] Re: GeekKlok and FLW up for grabs This thread is being locked. If you have any issues about this item

Re: [neonixie-l] Re: GeekKlok and FLW up for grabs

2012-12-03 Thread Nick
Possibly a bit harsh, but you are entitled to your view. Even in the Yahoo! days, outright commercial threads were closed/not encouraged and personal attacks and venting of gripes, however valid, where also curtailed (and sometimes deleted). In the few years I've been a mod, I've closed a

Re: [neonixie-l] Re: GeekKlok and FLW up for grabs

2012-12-03 Thread Nick
Possibly a bit harsh, but you are entitled to your view. Even in the Yahoo! days, outright commercial threads were closed/not encouraged and personal attacks and venting of gripes, however valid, were also curtailed (and sometimes deleted). In the few years I've been a mod, I've closed a

Re: [neonixie-l] Re: GeekKlok and FLW up for grabs

2012-12-03 Thread Shane Ellis
Crawl back under your slimy rock Ray. No ones buying. On Dec 2, 2012, at 7:43 PM, Raymond Weisling zetalink@gmail.com wrote: Also I would include a number of different drawings for laser-cut acrylic cases that are very attractive, both for the large board and split PCB versions. These are

Re: [neonixie-l] Re: GeekKlok and FLW up for grabs

2012-12-03 Thread Jeff Thomas
Hello Ray. I can provide a somewhat detailed list of names with email addresses of customers who would appreciate a refund of payments made to you. Jeff On Sunday, December 2, 2012 8:07:11 PM UTC-7, Raymond Weisling wrote: Noble idea, but I have no surviving records of who was left

Re: [neonixie-l] Re: GeekKlok and FLW up for grabs

2012-12-03 Thread Frank Bemelman
, December 03, 2012 12:32 PM To: neonixie-l@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [neonixie-l] Re: GeekKlok and FLW up for grabs Possibly a bit harsh, but you are entitled to your view. Even in the Yahoo! days, outright commercial threads were closed/not encouraged and personal attacks and venting of gripes

[neonixie-l] Re: GeekKlok and FLW up for grabs

2012-12-02 Thread Raymond Weisling
Also I would include a number of different drawings for laser-cut acrylic cases that are very attractive, both for the large board and split PCB versions. These are FreeHand or Corel-draw files that any laser cutting operation can do. These cases also could be sold to retrofit to existing

[neonixie-l] Re: GeekKlok and FLW up for grabs

2012-12-02 Thread Greg P
How about using the money you get from the sale to pay back the people you ripped off. On Dec 2, 8:43 pm, Raymond Weisling zetalink@gmail.com wrote: Also I would include a number of different drawings for laser-cut acrylic cases that are very attractive, both for the large board and

[neonixie-l] Re: GeekKlok and FLW up for grabs

2012-12-02 Thread Raymond Weisling
Noble idea, but I have no surviving records of who was left unsupplied. Furthermore, with debts over 4x the opening amount and at 2.5 to 4% *PER MONTH* interest, I have to settle that first. Ripped off implies it was quite by design and quite intentional. The products are sound designs with

Re: [neonixie-l] Re: GeekKlok and FLW up for grabs

2012-12-02 Thread Zane Faught
I was one of those people that you ripped off. Hundreds of purchases on the web, and you are the one and only time a transaction was misrepresented. I can't believe anyone would trust you to deliver on this offer. Zane On Dec 2, 2012, at 7:07 PM, Raymond Weisling zetalink@gmail.com wrote:

Re: [neonixie-l] Re: GeekKlok and FLW up for grabs

2012-12-02 Thread aarggh @aarggh.com
This really sounds like another scam, selling the rights? What's to say you aren't selling the rights to everyone who makes an offer, given there is only a small amount of physical vs software items, this could be another pyramid scheme. It certainly looks that way to me, especially as you don't

[neonixie-l] Re: GeekKlok and FLW up for grabs

2012-12-02 Thread Terry S
And out of the wormwood crawls the worm On Dec 2, 7:27 pm, Raymond Weisling zetalink@gmail.com wrote: Greetings everyone, I am the person who started the Neonixie-l Yahoo group a long time ago (10 years?) and who developed the B-7971 GeekKlok and Four Letter Word products. -- You

Re: [neonixie-l] Re: GeekKlok and FLW up for grabs

2012-12-02 Thread Instrument Resources of America
I just hope and pray that no one here is dumb enough to buy it, without taking receipt first,,pay later. Ones who do not learn from history, are apt to make the same mistakes over and over. Ira. On 12/2/2012 7:59 PM, Terry S wrote: And out of the wormwood crawls the

Re: [neonixie-l] Re: GeekKlok and FLW up for grabs

2012-12-02 Thread NeonJohn
On 12/02/2012 10:17 PM, Zane Faught wrote: nothing important PLEASE! Can we stop this crap? Rehashing this issue yet again will accomplish absolutely nothing other than making this an unpleasant list to be on. Try shutting up for a change, y'all! John -- John DeArmond Tellico Plains,

Re: [neonixie-l] Re: GeekKlok and FLW up for grabs

2012-12-02 Thread Gene Segal
I have never dealt with R Weisling directly, but I do enjoy the Nixie group he started. The one thing that confuses me: if Ray lost all his customer data, but still had access to the Nixie group he started, couldn't he have recreated the database by posting on the list? Couldn't he have responded

Re: [neonixie-l] Re: GeekKlok and FLW up for grabs

2012-12-02 Thread aarggh @aarggh.com
Really! Seriously! How about following your own advice? Or you could just...you know, NOT take note of this particular thread! Or do all threads have to be approved for consumption by you? WTF! On Mon, Dec 3, 2012 at 5:02 PM, NeonJohn j...@neon-john.com wrote: On 12/02/2012 10:17 PM, Zane

Re: [neonixie-l] Re: GeekKlok and FLW up for grabs

2012-12-02 Thread aarggh @aarggh.com
I think the fact that all hard drive and CD backups of any customer details were lost, but all copies of the project code and data were safe and intact says it all! On Mon, Dec 3, 2012 at 5:21 PM, Gene Segal wavefr...@earthlink.net wrote: I have never dealt with R Weisling directly, but I do