Re: [neonixie-l] Re: Nixie driver problem when going over 170 VDC

2013-05-15 Thread nix
Hi All, thanks all for this valuable comments. I see now that I should have studiedt more before creating the PCB. I really thought its just wiring the things together! I see that the arduinix layout is much cleaner, but does it fullfill all the arguments from Alex? I will take all this input

Re: [neonixie-l] Re: Nixie driver problem when going over 170 VDC

2013-05-15 Thread Jens Grabner
I have an other scematic, simulatet and it works in hardware. http://threeneurons.wordpress.com/nixie-power-supply/ Jens Am 15.05.2013 08:47, schrieb nix: Hi All, thanks all for this valuable comments. I see now that I should have studiedt more before creating the PCB. I really thought its

Re: [neonixie-l] Re: Nixie driver problem when going over 170 VDC

2013-05-14 Thread Jens Grabner
I have simulate the scematic. You need a resistor between NE555 out and Gate Q1. I think 150 Ohm is good. The peek current is verry high, about the input capacity of the gate from the mosfet. Jens Am 14.05.2013 02:38, schrieb threeneurons: Is there some hand wired perfboard circuitry

Re: [neonixie-l] Re: Nixie driver problem when going over 170 VDC

2013-05-14 Thread nix
Hello Jens, thank you for your help. How did you simulate it? Kind regards Sergio On Tuesday, 14 May 2013 08:46:54 UTC+2, JensG wrote: I have simulate the scematic. You need a resistor between NE555 out and Gate Q1. I think 150 Ohm is good. The peek current is verry high, about the input

Re: [neonixie-l] Re: Nixie driver problem when going over 170 VDC

2013-05-14 Thread Jens Grabner
The most scematic i simulate with LTspice http://www.linear.com/designtools/software/#LTspice. It have no cost and is with no limits. Good for begiining ar this documents from a german teacher. http://www.gunthard-kraus.de/LTSwitcherCAD/SwitcherCAD-Tutorial_English/pdf-File/

[neonixie-l] Re: Nixie driver problem when going over 170 VDC

2013-05-14 Thread Dekatron42
Here's an example of a NE555 Nixie PSU with layout that shows the fat tracks on the PCB: http://bleuchez.wordpress.com/2011/09/05/a-low-cost-nixie-tube-power-supply/ (it could be made even tighter but it works). At the end of the text there are also references to a design by Nick De Smith :

Re: [neonixie-l] Re: Nixie driver problem when going over 170 VDC

2013-05-14 Thread David Forbes
Sergio, I see the problem. As others have said, your PC board layout may be correct for your net list, but it is completely wrong for a switching power supply. The Nixie power supply design by Nick DeSmith is a good one. Copy it exactly. When doing a PC board layout, the first thing to do

[neonixie-l] Re: Nixie driver problem when going over 170 VDC

2013-05-13 Thread nix
Am Montag, 13. Mai 2013 13:19:05 UTC+2 schrieb nix: Hello I just build my own Nixie clock with input from Arduinix.com and a power supply from ledsale (Build a nixie power supply -

[neonixie-l] Re: Nixie driver problem when going over 170 VDC

2013-05-13 Thread dr pepper
What spence says, and keep your wiring short esp to the nixies. A 1000u cap right at the power input wouldnt be bad either. If the issue occurs at a certain ht voltage then maybe your reaching the breakdown voltage of the switching fet/transistor, I've had this before. Another thing is the

[neonixie-l] Re: Nixie driver problem when going over 170 VDC

2013-05-13 Thread nix
The wires to the nixies are 10 to 20 cm long. The output of pin 3 on the 555 looks like this in the highest voltage where the problem exists. https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-U2MTDu_zPGE/UZFc8Iif_1I/BI4/4hwtpldobew/s1600/2.jpg

[neonixie-l] Re: Nixie driver problem when going over 170 VDC

2013-05-13 Thread nix
With the decoupling capacitor on the ds1307, it is possible to go a little bit higher then the 170 Volts which is enough to illuminate all the digits. The error still occurs when going over the 180 Volts, but the clock seems to work :-)

[neonixie-l] Re: Nixie driver problem when going over 170 VDC

2013-05-13 Thread threeneurons
Is there some hand wired perfboard circuitry involved ? If so, can you provide a photo of both sides. Back in school (when dinosaurs roamed the Earth), I noticed a lot of my fellow students, used thin wire for everything. Power and ground should be heavier. Those switching supplies generate a