[neonixie-l] Re: The difference between IV4 and IV17 vfd tubes

2012-08-22 Thread Terry Kennedy
On Aug 20, 8:13 am, Jon Jackson jondad...@gmail.com wrote: Does anyone still have this document available or a link to it?  I have some IV-4s as well as IV-17s to use in a 4play display. I got a question off-list which I figured would be useful to answer here. The Elektronika 7-06 / 7-06K

[neonixie-l] Re: The difference between IV4 and IV17 vfd tubes

2012-08-21 Thread fixitsan
On Monday, August 20, 2012 11:05:15 PM UTC+1, Terry Kennedy wrote: On Aug 20, 8:13 am, Jon Jackson jondad...@gmail.com wrote: Does anyone still have this document available or a link to it? I have some IV-4s as well as IV-17s to use in a 4play display. I've put a copy at:

[neonixie-l] Re: The difference between IV4 and IV17 vfd tubes

2012-08-21 Thread figureloop
On Monday, November 21, 2011 12:51:05 AM UTC-8, fixitsan wrote: The 1000 hours lifetime is hopefully a misprint, there shouldn't be that much difference in the build to shorten it by 9000 hours and why continue to build a vastly inferior tube when you have a functionally identical

[neonixie-l] Re: The difference between IV4 and IV17 vfd tubes

2012-08-21 Thread figureloop
On Sunday, November 20, 2011 2:43:40 PM UTC-8, fixitsan wrote: I've just had a look at all of the types of IV4 and IV17 tubes in my collection to try to establish what, if any, are the main differences. Due to the high res images producing a large file size I couldn't upload the document

[neonixie-l] Re: The difference between IV4 and IV17 vfd tubes

2012-08-21 Thread Terry Kennedy
On Aug 21, 2:01 pm, figureloop cr...@sbcglobal.net wrote: Thus, it is entirely possible that causes purely political or otherwise unknown and about which it is difficult to speculate account for the existence and simultaneous production of these nearly identical tubes. That's actually a

Re: [neonixie-l] Re: The difference between IV4 and IV17 vfd tubes

2012-08-21 Thread David Forbes
On 8/21/12 11:01 AM, figureloop wrote: Thus, it is entirely possible that causes purely political or otherwise unknown and about which it is difficult to speculate account for the existence and simultaneous production of these nearly identical tubes. It's not just the Soviet Union where things

Re: [neonixie-l] Re: The difference between IV4 and IV17 vfd tubes

2012-08-21 Thread Jon Jackson
Thanks, Terry, for posting the file. On Tue, Aug 21, 2012 at 1:23 PM, David Forbes dfor...@dakotacom.net wrote: On 8/21/12 11:01 AM, figureloop wrote: Thus, it is entirely possible that causes purely political or otherwise unknown and about which it is difficult to speculate account for the

Re: [neonixie-l] Re: The difference between IV4 and IV17 vfd tubes

2012-08-21 Thread Charles MacDonald
On 12-08-21 03:23 PM, David Forbes wrote: I dutifully helped him disassemble the guns and tried to mate the orange left side with the green right side. However, they wouldn't fit. It turns out that the company had used two entirely different molds, Explain that, O masters of mass production!

[neonixie-l] Re: The difference between IV4 and IV17 vfd tubes

2012-08-20 Thread Jon Jackson
On Sunday, November 20, 2011 3:43:40 PM UTC-7, fixitsan wrote: I've just had a look at all of the types of IV4 and IV17 tubes in my collection to try to establish what, if any, are the main differences. Due to the high res images producing a large file size I couldn't upload the document

[neonixie-l] Re: The difference between IV4 and IV17 vfd tubes

2012-08-20 Thread Terry Kennedy
On Aug 20, 8:13 am, Jon Jackson jondad...@gmail.com wrote: Does anyone still have this document available or a link to it?  I have some IV-4s as well as IV-17s to use in a 4play display. I've put a copy at: http://www.tmk.com/transient/IV17-IV4_comparison.doc -- You received this message

[neonixie-l] Re: The difference between IV4 and IV17 vfd tubes

2011-11-23 Thread Alex
One point to consider would be how the manufacturer defines lifetime, and what this means statistically. This may explain the discrepancies in the lifetimes stated. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups neonixie-l group. To post to this group, send an

[neonixie-l] Re: The difference between IV4 and IV17 vfd tubes

2011-11-22 Thread GastonP
What I would really like to get is the IV-5. Like the IV-4 and IV-17, but front view. On Nov 22, 6:48 am, fixitsan chefin...@gmail.com wrote: So we have 25V IV4's and 25V IV17's and then also 50V IV4's. From experience, they all run fine at 25V non-multiplexed and when multplexing only 30-35V

[neonixie-l] Re: The difference between IV4 and IV17 vfd tubes

2011-11-21 Thread GastonP
According to another manual (Vukolov) both have a life expectancy of 3,000 hours, there are small differences regarding filament voltages, but the most important one I see is that the grid and anode voltages are specified at 50V for the IV-4 and 25V for the IV-17. Gaston On Nov 21, 5:51 am,

[neonixie-l] Re: The difference between IV4 and IV17 vfd tubes

2011-11-21 Thread Tony Adams
It seems an extreme way of expanding your product line though how these things were arranged when the factory was probably just told to make xx000's a year I don't know. Would have been a lot more useful if they'd used the materials to make bucketloads if IV-2s though, I have yet to find even

[neonixie-l] Re: The difference between IV4 and IV17 vfd tubes

2011-11-20 Thread fixitsan
Thanks to John R for pointing out the last link wasn't working for anyone else except me. The file should be available from the following http://www.filefactory.com/file/cf22feb/n/IV17-IV4_comparison.doc http://www.freefilehosting.net/iv17-iv4comparison Chris -- You received this message