[neonixie-l] Need help with a tubehobby clock overheating

2015-03-29 Thread Nick
I'm a touch surprised that no one has suggested that the 7805 might be oscillating in the MHz region... I would 'scope the +5V rail making sure that all input filtering is off... 78xx regulators were notorious for singing if they coukd - hence the essential 100n input output caps mounted

[neonixie-l] Re: Need help with a tubehobby clock overheating

2015-03-29 Thread 'Dave' via neonixie-l
I too was going to suggest the switchmode replacement approach. Your heat will go away from the regulator, completely. You can get one shipped to you for less than $9. Click here: Traco regulator http://www.aliexpress.com/item/Traco-module-TSR-1-2465-TSR1-2465/1942822301.html -- You

[neonixie-l] Re: Need help with a tubehobby clock overheating

2015-03-29 Thread Jon
Have you thought about replacing the 7805 with a switch mode regulator? More expensive than cheap-as-chips 7805 but wyyy more efficient. That means they will run cold and you shouldn't need to worry about the ambient temperature in your case. Two to look at, both of which are pin-compatible

[neonixie-l] Re: Need help with a tubehobby clock overheating

2015-03-29 Thread Kiran Otter
Something I want to note about how I used a heatsink; I epoxied it to the tops of the cases of M1 U1; traditionally you'd bolt it to the back of the component but at the time I couldn't figure out a better way, and I had heatsink epoxy, so I just plastered it to the tops of the two components.

RE: [neonixie-l] Re: Need help with a tubehobby clock overheating

2015-03-29 Thread Jeff Walton
Kiran, If you get your scope running, check the output of U1 (7805 regulator) and look for a very flat DC. If you see any type of sawtooth or superimposed oscillation, replace C1. You can use a any higher value than 10uF as long as it physically fits and has a high enough voltage rating.

[neonixie-l] Re: Need help with a tubehobby clock overheating

2015-03-29 Thread Nick
Just looked at the schematic. There are no suppression capacitors on the 7805. That is, IMHO, a major flaw. I would, as soon as possible, add those two 100n caps on the legs of the 7805. Nick -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups neonixie-l group. To

RE: [neonixie-l] Re: Need help with a tubehobby clock overheating

2015-03-29 Thread Jeff Walton
Kiran, If you get your scope running, check the output of U1 (7805 regulator) and look for a very flat DC. If you see any type of sawtooth or superimposed oscillation, replace C1. You can use a any higher value than 10uF as long as it physically fits and has a high enough voltage rating.