Re: [neonixie-l] Re: Nixie Tube History - help needed

2010-11-09 Thread jb-electronics
How about a question to the TCA group then ? john K Hello John, oh yes, I am a member there, too, but Mr Barbour is very dominant there and he insists that NU made Inditrons around 1940. I would love to see a proof, but until now I did not get any responses. Jens -- You received this me

Re: [neonixie-l] NU124-6 Nixie tube from National Union

2010-11-09 Thread jb-electronics
Have you looked at his Yahoo group called electrontubechronicles [ETC ] ? http://groups.yahoo.com/group/electrontubechronicles/ (maybe look at my tiny CV256 in photos "subminiatures" whilst there) John K Hello John, well, I have requested membership at ETC about two years ago, and rene

Re: [neonixie-l] NU124-6 Nixie tube from National Union

2010-11-09 Thread yendor3
- Original Message - From: "Jens Boos" > I have been digging through the NEONIXIE-L archive on Yahoo, and found > this text from Peter J. Stonard, ...clip... > His website > (www.stonard.com) is down, too, and archive.org does not have his > Neonixie-folder archived. (stonard.com/neo

Re: [neonixie-l] Re: Nixie Tube History - help needed

2010-11-09 Thread yendor3
- Original Message - From: "jb-electronics" clip...> > Hmm there have to be some archives dealing with the National Union > history. (Like the CBI for Burroughs). Anyone have an idea where to > start looking for National Union information? > > Jens > How about a question to t

[neonixie-l] Re: Haydu 6700 tube

2010-11-09 Thread Accutron
On Nov 9, 9:11 pm, David Forbes wrote: > Haydu 6700 tube and box photos here: > > http://www.nixiebunny.com/haydu6700/index.html You have a unique variation. I've never seen that sticker before, and the black domed top cap is not normal for the Haydu version. It probably dates to right around 195

[neonixie-l] Haydu 6700 tube

2010-11-09 Thread David Forbes
Haydu 6700 tube and box photos here: http://www.nixiebunny.com/haydu6700/index.html Enjoy. Let me know if the description is haywire. -- David Forbes, Tucson AZ http://www.cathodecorner.com/ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "neonixie-l" group. To po

[neonixie-l] NU124-6 Nixie tube from National Union

2010-11-09 Thread Jens Boos
Hello folks, I have been digging through the NEONIXIE-L archive on Yahoo, and found this text from Peter J. Stonard, dated Jan 1, 2004 (message #15482): __ "Greetings, I just found a strange tube in my stash. I didn't find out anything about it since the la

Re: [neonixie-l] Re: Nixie Tube History - help needed

2010-11-09 Thread jb-electronics
Okay, I suppose I'll give it a shot. Great news. Jens: on the subject of Inditrons in the 1940s, that's just wrong. We were once given bad information as to the Inditron's age, and had a date estimate of 1940s up on our site for some time. We have since corrected that information, but it's

Re: [neonixie-l] Re: Nixie Tube History - help needed

2010-11-09 Thread David Forbes
On 11/9/2010 1:49 PM, Accutron wrote: On Nov 9, 2:25 pm, David Forbes wrote: By the way, I have a Haydu Brothers box with a defective 6700 tube in it. It has little stickers that say, "A subsidiary of Burroughs Corp." stuck on every side of the box. Naturally, it was a gift from Tom Jennings.

[neonixie-l] Re: Nixie Tube History - help needed

2010-11-09 Thread Accutron
On Nov 9, 2:25 pm, David Forbes wrote: > By the way, I have a Haydu Brothers box with a defective 6700 tube in it. It > has > little stickers that say, "A subsidiary of Burroughs Corp." stuck on every > side > of the box. Naturally, it was a gift from Tom Jennings. > > It includes a data sheet.

Re: [neonixie-l] Re: Nixie Tube History - help needed

2010-11-09 Thread jb-electronics
Hello, [...] Mr. Ciardiello had [...] had regurgitated the same incorrect Haydu origin mantra. He subsequently edited the content of this article enough that it is vaguely-not- incorrect, but he doesn't actually admit that I was right all along. The Haydu Vs. Burroughs article is basically usel

[neonixie-l] Re: Nixie Tube History - help needed

2010-11-09 Thread Nick
On Nov 9, 2:44 pm, Accutron wrote: ... > The Wikipedia Nixie tube page is horrible and wrong on many issues, > and should be ignored by all thinking individuals. ... Please - do us all a favour and update it. Some of us have had a go at bits (I did the citations and some other parts about lifespa

[neonixie-l] Re: Nixie Tube History - help needed

2010-11-09 Thread Accutron
On Nov 9, 2:25 pm, David Forbes wrote: > Thanks for the ad scans. They are historically interesting. Have you ever > seen a > real Vari-Count module? I've never seen anything made by Haydu in person, other than the orange-label 6700. I've never even seen a photo of a Vari-Count module. They migh

Re: [neonixie-l] Re: Nixie Tube History - help needed

2010-11-09 Thread jb-electronics
Hello again, Here are the three early advertisements I know about. They were published in Electronics magazine between May and December 1955... [...] Oh yes, the article from Mr Ciardiello, see it here: http://www.radiomuseum.org/forum/nixie_and_trochotron_haydu_vs_burroughs.html How do you

Re: [neonixie-l] Re: Nixie Tube History - help needed

2010-11-09 Thread David Forbes
On 11/9/2010 12:09 PM, Accutron wrote: Here are the three early advertisements I know about. They were published in Electronics magazine between May and December 1955... http://www.radiomuseum.org/forumdata/users/6435/vm_tubes/magnetron/Haydu1.jpg http://www.radiomuseum.org/forumdata/users/6435

[neonixie-l] Re: Nixie Tube History - help needed

2010-11-09 Thread Accutron
On Nov 9, 1:48 pm, jb-electronics wrote: > Hello Micah, (snipped) Here are the three early advertisements I know about. They were published in Electronics magazine between May and December 1955... http://www.radiomuseum.org/forumdata/users/6435/vm_tubes/magnetron/Haydu1.jpg http://www.radiomuse

Re: [neonixie-l] Re: Nixie Tube History - help needed

2010-11-09 Thread jb-electronics
Hello Micah, The patent, official datasheet and press release for the GI-10 Inditron are all dated 1954. Here's the original datasheet, dated May 1954... How embarassing - I never noticed the small "issued May 1954", even though I have had this datasheet a long time. Good that this is a keyb

[neonixie-l] Re: Nixie Tube History - help needed

2010-11-09 Thread Accutron
On Nov 9, 11:21 am, jb-electronics wrote: > Hello Micah, (snipped) The patent, official datasheet and press release for the GI-10 Inditron are all dated 1954. Here's the original datasheet, dated May 1954... http://www.decadecounter.com/vta/pict5/inditrongi10.jpg The GI-10 patent (US2756366) w

Re: [neonixie-l] Re: Nixie Tube History - help needed

2010-11-09 Thread jb-electronics
Hello Micah, National Union released the Inditron in 1954. Do you have an add or a press release for that? That would be amazing. I only have the snippet from "Popular Science", 1954, that you also have on your VTA website. Haydu was bought by Burroughs in 1954. OK, that is also what

[neonixie-l] Re: Nixie Tube History - help needed

2010-11-09 Thread Accutron
On Nov 9, 10:02 am, Unmitigated Fool wrote: > Micah,  You should edit the article so it's accurate.  That's how a Wiki > should work. That may be how they *should* work, but what actually happens is that a small group of despots take over the page, and any unsanctioned changes are reverted. I use

[neonixie-l] Re: Nixie Tube History - help needed

2010-11-09 Thread Accutron
On Nov 8, 12:12 pm, jb-electronics wrote: > Hmm I have historical proof that Haydu Bros already were a Burroughs > subsidiary when they advertised the Nixie tube, see > here:http://www.jb-electronics.de/html/elektronik/nixies/n_hb106.htmNow that > was 1955, so quite early. > > But sadly, I do not

[neonixie-l] Re: NE70V neon tubes

2010-11-09 Thread GastonP
It actually makes a lot of sense. Like the IN-13s and IN-9s, as the current gets higher (more voltage applied to the ballast series resistor), more surface is involved in the ionization. The intuitive limit to the regulation portion of the characteristics would be when the ionization covers the who

[neonixie-l] Re: NE70V neon tubes

2010-11-09 Thread Larry
I ran the least poisoned tube for 8 hours at 30 mA. This morning all but a small dot of poisoning has gone away. Both surfaces glow over their whole area. The voltage across the tube dropped to 68.5 VAC. Now on to the second tube with hopes for similar results. > > But those usually have more c

Re: [neonixie-l] Re: Nixie Tube History - help needed

2010-11-09 Thread Unmitigated Fool
Micah, You should edit the article so it's accurate. That's how a Wiki should work. Accutron wrote: The Wikipedia Nixie tube page is horrible and wrong on many issues, and should be ignored by all thinking individuals. Micah Mabelitini http://www.decadecounter.com/ -- You received