Re: [neonixie-l] NIMO
; On Apr 28, 2024, at 19:06, liam bartosiewicz < >>>>>>>>> liambart...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> That’s super cool! I wonder if it’s better at resisting burn in >>>>>>>>> than the normal green phosphor. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Apr 28, 2024, at 5:49 PM, Pramanicin wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Bit speechless didn't know I had this, thought it was a >>>>>>>>> regular green one >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Thursday, April 6, 2023 at 2:18:52 PM UTC-7 jörg wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> I've programmed the PWM for the green-neon bulbs. >>>>>>>>>> The fading looks pretty okay for me. Same for the spacing of the >>>>>>>>>> bulbs. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On Wednesday, April 5, 2023 at 1:43:02 AM UTC+2 Mac Doktor wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> On Apr 4, 2023, at 5:08 PM, Yohan Park >>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> I think these would fit nicely with the Nimo tubes. >>>>>>>>>>> https://www.ebay.com/itm/195661812653 >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> The only problem is that these will work loose from vibration >>>>>>>>>>> and thermal cycling. Use bayonet based bulbs instead. Trust me. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Terry Bowman, KA4HJH >>>>>>>>>>> "The Mac Doctor" >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> https://www.astarcloseup.com >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> "If only you could see what I've seen with your eyes."—Roy >>>>>>>>>>> Batty, *Blade Runner* >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>>>>>> Groups "neonixie-l" group. >>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, >>>>>>>>> send an email to neonixie-l+...@googlegroups.com. >>>>>>>>> To view this discussion on the web, visit >>>>>>>>> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/neonixie-l/43fd675c-b91a-4a01-8457-2df4e458ce61n%40googlegroups.com >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/neonixie-l/43fd675c-b91a-4a01-8457-2df4e458ce61n%40googlegroups.com?utm_medium=email_source=footer> >>>>>>>>> . >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>>>>>> Groups "neonixie-l" group. >>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, >>>>>>>>> send an email to neonixie-l+...@googlegroups.com. >>>>>>>>> To view this discussion on the web, visit >>>>>>>>> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/neonixie-l/1CE07839-A37D-4688-B715-EF435653951B%40gmail.com >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/neonixie-l/1CE07839-A37D-4688-B715-EF435653951B%40gmail.com?utm_medium=email_source=footer> >>>>>>>>> . >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>>>> Groups "neonixie-l" group. >>>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, >>>>>>> send an email to neonixie-l+...@googlegroups.com. >>>>>>> To view this discussion on the web, visit >>>>>>> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/neonixie-l/be576fa5-88f1-4460-9bc3-591df557912dn%40googlegroups.com >>>>>>> >>>>>>> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/neonixie-l/be576fa5-88f1-4460-9bc3-591df557912dn%40googlegroups.com?utm_medium=email_source=footer> >>>>>>> . >>>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>>> Groups "neonixie-l" group. >>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, >>>>>> send an email to neonixie-l+...@googlegroups.com. >>>>>> To view this discussion on the web, visit >>>>>> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/neonixie-l/CAOX%2BRH%2BiX2FjbmhGycpxPGFsC2rUnvsJW5dm2oQFVg98FGxYrQ%40mail.gmail.com >>>>>> >>>>>> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/neonixie-l/CAOX%2BRH%2BiX2FjbmhGycpxPGFsC2rUnvsJW5dm2oQFVg98FGxYrQ%40mail.gmail.com?utm_medium=email_source=footer> >>>>>> . >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>>> Groups "neonixie-l" group. >>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, >>>>>> send an email to neonixie-l+...@googlegroups.com. >>>>>> >>>>> To view this discussion on the web, visit >>>>>> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/neonixie-l/7812247B-6648-4C6F-936C-1887426CFF3D%40gmail.com >>>>>> >>>>>> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/neonixie-l/7812247B-6648-4C6F-936C-1887426CFF3D%40gmail.com?utm_medium=email_source=footer> >>>>>> . >>>>>> >>>>> -- >>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>> Groups "neonixie-l" group. >>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>>> an email to neonixie-l+...@googlegroups.com. >>>> >>> To view this discussion on the web, visit >>>> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/neonixie-l/6e468e04-27eb-4668-a89a-27930e5ca0d1n%40googlegroups.com >>>> >>>> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/neonixie-l/6e468e04-27eb-4668-a89a-27930e5ca0d1n%40googlegroups.com?utm_medium=email_source=footer> >>>> . >>>> >>> -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "neonixie-l" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to neonixie-l+...@googlegroups.com. > > To view this discussion on the web, visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/neonixie-l/e4178170-ef89-43fc-a949-0dd42e6b8ecfn%40googlegroups.com > > <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/neonixie-l/e4178170-ef89-43fc-a949-0dd42e6b8ecfn%40googlegroups.com?utm_medium=email_source=footer> > . > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "neonixie-l" group. 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Re: [neonixie-l] NIMO
That symbol tube is super cool, never seen a NIMO display anything other than numbers, must be orders of magnitude more rare than the normal onesOn May 13, 2024, at 3:02 PM, ZY wrote:Oh doh, I didn't realize those pictures where already mentioned in the threadOn Monday 13 May 2024 at 17:47:11 UTC-4 ZY wrote:I'm not sure what is going on in this site, I think the "seller" is just posting the tubes to show off instead of them being for sale, but there is a blue colored one pictured? The description seems to only mention green with numbers, green with symbols, and orange, so maybe the blue is just some photoshop work:https://www.yoycart.com/Product/565022565965/On Monday 13 May 2024 at 11:07:22 UTC-4 Nicholas Stock wrote:https://www.ebay.com/itm/166758859027Not my auction Cheers,NickOn Sun, May 12, 2024 at 5:49 PM gregebert <greg...@hotmail.com> wrote:I dont think IEE got their NIMO tubes into volume production, and I've never seen any photos of a real product using them. There is a photo of some kind of gizmo in the IEE sales literature, but that was probably a mockup. It's unfortunate that all the engineering effort and talent that went into their creation didn't get the recognition it deserved. Had they appeared 20 years earlier, perhaps nixie tubes would have been the rarities instead of NIMOs.On Thursday, May 9, 2024 at 4:20:48 PM UTC-7 Nicholas Stock wrote:Well, none of my green ones have the 'right' number on them either, so maybe they were all pre-production? On Thu, May 9, 2024 at 9:41 AM liam bartosiewicz <liambart...@gmail.com> wrote:According to the datasheet, this tube should have the part/ordering number BA-0006-P27, though the tubes don’t actually get marked with that On May 9, 2024, at 8:37 AM, Nicholas Stock <nick...@gmail.com> wrote:Hi Greg, 6000-93- on the side. So no P number as I've seen on others.On Thu, May 9, 2024 at 8:31 AM gregebert <greg...@hotmail.com> wrote:Are there any markings, part numbers, etc that indicate this tube has a different phosphor ? I suspect it could be an ultra-rare engineering sample.Most of the NIMO tubes I've seen, which isn't very many, have 31 in the part number (P31 phosphor), though I have seen two with '92' in the part number that have a yellowish tint mixed with the normal green. I wasn't able to find any phosphor designated P92.On Wednesday, May 8, 2024 at 7:10:39 PM UTC-7 Nicholas Stock wrote:I'm going to sell this Red NIMO tube. It's apparently unused (no phosphor burn at all) and all the digits work as you can see in the video. I'll be honest and upfront with everyone here, I'm looking for serious offers and will keep in mind that listing it on the bay incurs fees etc, so if interested, please send me an offer. All the other used green NIMOs sold.Best,NickOn Sun, Apr 28, 2024 at 7:11 PM Nicholas Stock <nick...@gmail.com> wrote:I won't be trying that test :)Sent from my iPhoneOn Apr 28, 2024, at 19:06, liam bartosiewicz <liambart...@gmail.com> wrote:That’s super cool! I wonder if it’s better at resisting burn in than the normal green phosphor.On Apr 28, 2024, at 5:49 PM, Pramanicin <nick...@gmail.com> wrote:Bit speechless didn't know I had this, thought it was a regular green oneOn Thursday, April 6, 2023 at 2:18:52 PM UTC-7 jörg wrote:I've programmed the PWM for the green-neon bulbs. The fading looks pretty okay for me. Same for the spacing of the bulbs.On Wednesday, April 5, 2023 at 1:43:02 AM UTC+2 Mac Doktor wrote:On Apr 4, 2023, at 5:08 PM, Yohan Park <w...@kitsunegari.net> wrote:I think these would fit nicely with the Nimo tubes.https://www.ebay.com/itm/195661812653The only problem is that these will work loose from vibration and thermal cycling. Use bayonet based bulbs instead. Trust me.Terry Bowman, KA4HJH"The Mac Doctor"https://www.astarcloseup.com"If only you could see what I've seen with your eyes."—Roy Batty, Blade Runner -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "neonixie-l" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to neonixie-l+...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web, visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/neonixie-l/43fd675c-b91a-4a01-8457-2df4e458ce61n%40googlegroups.com. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "neonixie-l" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to neonixie-l+...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web, visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/neonixie-l/1CE07839-A37D-4688-B715-EF435653951B%40gmail.com. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "neonixie-l" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to neonixie-l+...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web, visit https://groups.
Re: [neonixie-l] NIMO
Oh doh, I didn't realize those pictures where already mentioned in the thread On Monday 13 May 2024 at 17:47:11 UTC-4 ZY wrote: > I'm not sure what is going on in this site, I think the "seller" is just > posting the tubes to show off instead of them being for sale, but there is > a blue colored one pictured? The description seems to only mention green > with numbers, green with symbols, and orange, so maybe the blue is just > some photoshop work: > > https://www.yoycart.com/Product/565022565965/ > > On Monday 13 May 2024 at 11:07:22 UTC-4 Nicholas Stock wrote: > >> https://www.ebay.com/itm/166758859027 >> >> Not my auction >> >> Cheers, >> >> Nick >> >> On Sun, May 12, 2024 at 5:49 PM gregebert wrote: >> >>> I dont think IEE got their NIMO tubes into volume production, and I've >>> never seen any photos of a real product using them. There is a photo of >>> some kind of gizmo in the IEE sales literature, but that was probably a >>> mockup. It's unfortunate that all the engineering effort and talent that >>> went into their creation didn't get the recognition it deserved. Had they >>> appeared 20 years earlier, perhaps nixie tubes would have been the rarities >>> instead of NIMOs. >>> >>> On Thursday, May 9, 2024 at 4:20:48 PM UTC-7 Nicholas Stock wrote: >>> >>>> Well, none of my green ones have the 'right' number on them either, so >>>> maybe they were all pre-production? >>>> >>>> On Thu, May 9, 2024 at 9:41 AM liam bartosiewicz >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> According to the datasheet, this tube should have the part/ordering >>>>> number BA-0006-P27, though the tubes don’t actually get marked with that >>>>> >>>>> On May 9, 2024, at 8:37 AM, Nicholas Stock wrote: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Hi Greg, 6000-93- on the side. So no P number as I've seen on >>>>> others. >>>>> >>>>> On Thu, May 9, 2024 at 8:31 AM gregebert wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Are there any markings, part numbers, etc that indicate this tube has >>>>>> a different phosphor ? I suspect it could be an ultra-rare engineering >>>>>> sample. >>>>>> >>>>>> Most of the NIMO tubes I've seen, which isn't very many, have 31 in >>>>>> the part number (P31 phosphor), though I have seen two with '92' in the >>>>>> part number that have a yellowish tint mixed with the normal green. I >>>>>> wasn't able to find any phosphor designated P92. >>>>>> >>>>>> On Wednesday, May 8, 2024 at 7:10:39 PM UTC-7 Nicholas Stock wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> I'm going to sell this Red NIMO tube. It's apparently unused (no >>>>>>> phosphor burn at all) and all the digits work as you can see in the >>>>>>> video. >>>>>>> I'll be honest and upfront with everyone here, I'm looking for serious >>>>>>> offers and will keep in mind that listing it on the bay incurs fees >>>>>>> etc, so >>>>>>> if interested, please send me an offer. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> All the other used green NIMOs sold. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Best, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Nick >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Sun, Apr 28, 2024 at 7:11 PM Nicholas Stock >>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I won't be trying that test :) >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Apr 28, 2024, at 19:06, liam bartosiewicz >>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> That’s super cool! I wonder if it’s better at resisting burn in >>>>>>>> than the normal green phosphor. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Apr 28, 2024, at 5:49 PM, Pramanicin wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Bit speechless.... didn't know I had this, thought it was a >>>>>>>> regular green one >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Thursday, April 6, 2023 at 2:18:52 PM UTC-7 jörg wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>
Re: [neonixie-l] NIMO
I'm not sure what is going on in this site, I think the "seller" is just posting the tubes to show off instead of them being for sale, but there is a blue colored one pictured? The description seems to only mention green with numbers, green with symbols, and orange, so maybe the blue is just some photoshop work: https://www.yoycart.com/Product/565022565965/ On Monday 13 May 2024 at 11:07:22 UTC-4 Nicholas Stock wrote: > https://www.ebay.com/itm/166758859027 > > Not my auction > > Cheers, > > Nick > > On Sun, May 12, 2024 at 5:49 PM gregebert wrote: > >> I dont think IEE got their NIMO tubes into volume production, and I've >> never seen any photos of a real product using them. There is a photo of >> some kind of gizmo in the IEE sales literature, but that was probably a >> mockup. It's unfortunate that all the engineering effort and talent that >> went into their creation didn't get the recognition it deserved. Had they >> appeared 20 years earlier, perhaps nixie tubes would have been the rarities >> instead of NIMOs. >> >> On Thursday, May 9, 2024 at 4:20:48 PM UTC-7 Nicholas Stock wrote: >> >>> Well, none of my green ones have the 'right' number on them either, so >>> maybe they were all pre-production? >>> >>> On Thu, May 9, 2024 at 9:41 AM liam bartosiewicz >>> wrote: >>> >>>> According to the datasheet, this tube should have the part/ordering >>>> number BA-0006-P27, though the tubes don’t actually get marked with that >>>> >>>> On May 9, 2024, at 8:37 AM, Nicholas Stock wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>> Hi Greg, 6000-93- on the side. So no P number as I've seen on >>>> others. >>>> >>>> On Thu, May 9, 2024 at 8:31 AM gregebert wrote: >>>> >>>>> Are there any markings, part numbers, etc that indicate this tube has >>>>> a different phosphor ? I suspect it could be an ultra-rare engineering >>>>> sample. >>>>> >>>>> Most of the NIMO tubes I've seen, which isn't very many, have 31 in >>>>> the part number (P31 phosphor), though I have seen two with '92' in the >>>>> part number that have a yellowish tint mixed with the normal green. I >>>>> wasn't able to find any phosphor designated P92. >>>>> >>>>> On Wednesday, May 8, 2024 at 7:10:39 PM UTC-7 Nicholas Stock wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> I'm going to sell this Red NIMO tube. It's apparently unused (no >>>>>> phosphor burn at all) and all the digits work as you can see in the >>>>>> video. >>>>>> I'll be honest and upfront with everyone here, I'm looking for serious >>>>>> offers and will keep in mind that listing it on the bay incurs fees etc, >>>>>> so >>>>>> if interested, please send me an offer. >>>>>> >>>>>> All the other used green NIMOs sold. >>>>>> >>>>>> Best, >>>>>> >>>>>> Nick >>>>>> >>>>>> On Sun, Apr 28, 2024 at 7:11 PM Nicholas Stock >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> I won't be trying that test :) >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Apr 28, 2024, at 19:06, liam bartosiewicz >>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> That’s super cool! I wonder if it’s better at resisting burn in than >>>>>>> the normal green phosphor. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Apr 28, 2024, at 5:49 PM, Pramanicin wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Bit speechless didn't know I had this, thought it was a regular >>>>>>> green one >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Thursday, April 6, 2023 at 2:18:52 PM UTC-7 jörg wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I've programmed the PWM for the green-neon bulbs. >>>>>>>> The fading looks pretty okay for me. Same for the spacing of the >>>>>>>> bulbs. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Wednesday, April 5, 2023 at 1:43:02 AM UTC+2 Mac Doktor wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>&
Re: [neonixie-l] IN-13 driver circuit resistor power rating
Does anyone know what is the thickness of the leads on the IN-13? I haven't
received the ones I ordered yet so I can't measure it and I couldn't find
anything online.
On Thursday, May 9, 2024 at 1:54:39 PM UTC-4 Mac Doktor wrote:
> On May 7, 2024, at 9:55 PM, Zachary wrote:
>
> Yes that does in fact confuse me even more.
>
>
> I must be psychic.
>
>
> However I looked at the component list from the source of the image you
> sent ("M. Moores' Nixie Thermometer Kit") and he does use 1/4W resistors
> and not >1W like the Russian datasheet indicates so that's good.
>
>
> I have the thermometer. It's designed to only travel halfway up the IN-13.
> Seeing as how 140V x 4.5mA = 0.63W, perhaps Mike's playing it safe with the
> current. Or it may play nicer with "bad" ones.
>
>
> I'm not sure what I need for Q2 however. Should I use a second MJD340
> (which is the SMD version of the MJE340 I've seen on many existing design)
> or any transistor will do? Or do I need it at all? Many designs don't
> include it for some reason.
>
>
> Mike seems to be a fan of discrete circuits so there must be some magic
> going on here. You should ask him.
>
>
> My understanding is that it's there for because of this from the Russian
> datasheet:
>
> > "To avoid braking the light column when switching abruptly, we
> recommend: When switching on, the main cathode should not be on, and there
> should only be current on the auxiliary cathode."
>
>
> I'm not sure that I've ever seen it actually done that way.
>
>
> Terry Bowman, KA4HJH
> "The Mac Doctor"
>
> https://www.astarcloseup.com
>
> "Every kid starts out as a natural-born scientist, and then we beat it out
> of them. A few trickle through the system with their wonder and enthusiasm
> for science intact."—Carl Sagan, *Psychology Today*, 1996
>
>
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Re: [neonixie-l] NIMO
https://www.ebay.com/itm/166758859027 Not my auction Cheers, Nick On Sun, May 12, 2024 at 5:49 PM gregebert wrote: > I dont think IEE got their NIMO tubes into volume production, and I've > never seen any photos of a real product using them. There is a photo of > some kind of gizmo in the IEE sales literature, but that was probably a > mockup. It's unfortunate that all the engineering effort and talent that > went into their creation didn't get the recognition it deserved. Had they > appeared 20 years earlier, perhaps nixie tubes would have been the rarities > instead of NIMOs. > > On Thursday, May 9, 2024 at 4:20:48 PM UTC-7 Nicholas Stock wrote: > >> Well, none of my green ones have the 'right' number on them either, so >> maybe they were all pre-production? >> >> On Thu, May 9, 2024 at 9:41 AM liam bartosiewicz >> wrote: >> >>> According to the datasheet, this tube should have the part/ordering >>> number BA-0006-P27, though the tubes don’t actually get marked with that >>> >>> On May 9, 2024, at 8:37 AM, Nicholas Stock wrote: >>> >>> >>> Hi Greg, 6000-93- on the side. So no P number as I've seen on others. >>> >>> On Thu, May 9, 2024 at 8:31 AM gregebert wrote: >>> >>>> Are there any markings, part numbers, etc that indicate this tube has a >>>> different phosphor ? I suspect it could be an ultra-rare engineering >>>> sample. >>>> >>>> Most of the NIMO tubes I've seen, which isn't very many, have 31 in the >>>> part number (P31 phosphor), though I have seen two with '92' in the part >>>> number that have a yellowish tint mixed with the normal green. I wasn't >>>> able to find any phosphor designated P92. >>>> >>>> On Wednesday, May 8, 2024 at 7:10:39 PM UTC-7 Nicholas Stock wrote: >>>> >>>>> I'm going to sell this Red NIMO tube. It's apparently unused (no >>>>> phosphor burn at all) and all the digits work as you can see in the video. >>>>> I'll be honest and upfront with everyone here, I'm looking for serious >>>>> offers and will keep in mind that listing it on the bay incurs fees etc, >>>>> so >>>>> if interested, please send me an offer. >>>>> >>>>> All the other used green NIMOs sold. >>>>> >>>>> Best, >>>>> >>>>> Nick >>>>> >>>>> On Sun, Apr 28, 2024 at 7:11 PM Nicholas Stock >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> I won't be trying that test :) >>>>>> >>>>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>>>> >>>>>> On Apr 28, 2024, at 19:06, liam bartosiewicz >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> That’s super cool! I wonder if it’s better at resisting burn in than >>>>>> the normal green phosphor. >>>>>> >>>>>> On Apr 28, 2024, at 5:49 PM, Pramanicin wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> Bit speechless didn't know I had this, thought it was a regular >>>>>> green one >>>>>> >>>>>> On Thursday, April 6, 2023 at 2:18:52 PM UTC-7 jörg wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> I've programmed the PWM for the green-neon bulbs. >>>>>>> The fading looks pretty okay for me. Same for the spacing of the >>>>>>> bulbs. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Wednesday, April 5, 2023 at 1:43:02 AM UTC+2 Mac Doktor wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Apr 4, 2023, at 5:08 PM, Yohan Park >>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I think these would fit nicely with the Nimo tubes. >>>>>>>> https://www.ebay.com/itm/195661812653 >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> The only problem is that these will work loose from vibration and >>>>>>>> thermal cycling. Use bayonet based bulbs instead. Trust me. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Terry Bowman, KA4HJH >>>>>>>> "The Mac Doctor" >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> https://www.astarcloseup.com >>>>>>>> >>>>&g
Re: [neonixie-l] NIMO
I dont think IEE got their NIMO tubes into volume production, and I've never seen any photos of a real product using them. There is a photo of some kind of gizmo in the IEE sales literature, but that was probably a mockup. It's unfortunate that all the engineering effort and talent that went into their creation didn't get the recognition it deserved. Had they appeared 20 years earlier, perhaps nixie tubes would have been the rarities instead of NIMOs. On Thursday, May 9, 2024 at 4:20:48 PM UTC-7 Nicholas Stock wrote: > Well, none of my green ones have the 'right' number on them either, so > maybe they were all pre-production? > > On Thu, May 9, 2024 at 9:41 AM liam bartosiewicz > wrote: > >> According to the datasheet, this tube should have the part/ordering >> number BA-0006-P27, though the tubes don’t actually get marked with that >> >> On May 9, 2024, at 8:37 AM, Nicholas Stock wrote: >> >> >> Hi Greg, 6000-93- on the side. So no P number as I've seen on others. >> >> On Thu, May 9, 2024 at 8:31 AM gregebert wrote: >> >>> Are there any markings, part numbers, etc that indicate this tube has a >>> different phosphor ? I suspect it could be an ultra-rare engineering sample. >>> >>> Most of the NIMO tubes I've seen, which isn't very many, have 31 in the >>> part number (P31 phosphor), though I have seen two with '92' in the part >>> number that have a yellowish tint mixed with the normal green. I wasn't >>> able to find any phosphor designated P92. >>> >>> On Wednesday, May 8, 2024 at 7:10:39 PM UTC-7 Nicholas Stock wrote: >>> >>>> I'm going to sell this Red NIMO tube. It's apparently unused (no >>>> phosphor burn at all) and all the digits work as you can see in the video. >>>> I'll be honest and upfront with everyone here, I'm looking for serious >>>> offers and will keep in mind that listing it on the bay incurs fees etc, >>>> so >>>> if interested, please send me an offer. >>>> >>>> All the other used green NIMOs sold. >>>> >>>> Best, >>>> >>>> Nick >>>> >>>> On Sun, Apr 28, 2024 at 7:11 PM Nicholas Stock >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> I won't be trying that test :) >>>>> >>>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>>> >>>>> On Apr 28, 2024, at 19:06, liam bartosiewicz >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> That’s super cool! I wonder if it’s better at resisting burn in than >>>>> the normal green phosphor. >>>>> >>>>> On Apr 28, 2024, at 5:49 PM, Pramanicin wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Bit speechless didn't know I had this, thought it was a regular >>>>> green one >>>>> >>>>> On Thursday, April 6, 2023 at 2:18:52 PM UTC-7 jörg wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> I've programmed the PWM for the green-neon bulbs. >>>>>> The fading looks pretty okay for me. Same for the spacing of the >>>>>> bulbs. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On Wednesday, April 5, 2023 at 1:43:02 AM UTC+2 Mac Doktor wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Apr 4, 2023, at 5:08 PM, Yohan Park wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I think these would fit nicely with the Nimo tubes. >>>>>>> https://www.ebay.com/itm/195661812653 >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> The only problem is that these will work loose from vibration and >>>>>>> thermal cycling. Use bayonet based bulbs instead. Trust me. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Terry Bowman, KA4HJH >>>>>>> "The Mac Doctor" >>>>>>> >>>>>>> https://www.astarcloseup.com >>>>>>> >>>>>>> "If only you could see what I've seen with your eyes."—Roy Batty, >>>>>>> *Blade >>>>>>> Runner* >>>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>> Groups "neonixie-l" group. >>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>>>> an email to neonixie-l+...@googlegroups.com. >>>>>
Re: [neonixie-l] FS: Nixie
Price reduction IN-12 for $4 IN-14 for $7 IN-14 used for $5 Вт, 30 янв. 2024 г. в 11:34, Yuriy Ovchinnikov : > IN-12 for $6 > IN-14 for $10 > IN-14 used for $8 > IN-16 for $10 > IN-16 used for $8 > > вт, 30 янв. 2024 г. в 10:48, Snow John : > >> what's the price of in12 in14 in16 all >> >> 'Yuriy Ovchinnikov' via neonixie-l >> 于2024年1月30日周二 15:46写道： >> >>> Hi, >>> I can offer: >>> >>> 3LS321B1 – 2 pcs. >>> >>> А-101 – 1 pc. >>> >>> А-102 – 12 pcs. >>> >>> А-103 – 10 pcs. >>> >>> А-108 – 6 pcs. >>> >>> А-201 – 13 pcs. >>> >>> IV-1 – 74 pcs. >>> >>> IV-3А – 1 pc. >>> >>> IV-3А used – 9 pcs. >>> >>> IV-4 – 88 pcs. >>> >>> IV-6 – 8 pcs. >>> >>> IV-6 used – 6 pcs. >>> >>> IV-8 – 4 pcs. >>> >>> IV-9 – 10 pcs. >>> >>> IV-12 – 2 pcs. >>> >>> IV-22 – 3 pcs. >>> >>> IV-26 tipe 1 – 13 pcs. >>> >>> IV-28А – 1 pc. >>> >>> IVL2-7/5 – 22 pcs. >>> >>> IVLShU1-11/2 – 36 pcs. >>> >>> IN-1 – 3 pcs. >>> >>> IN-2 – 97 pcs. >>> >>> IN-3 – 200 pcs. >>> >>> IN-4 – 19 pcs. >>> >>> IN-6 – 90 pcs. >>> >>> IN-7 – 4 pcs. >>> >>> IN-8 – 1 pc. >>> >>> IN-8-2 – 44 pcs. >>> >>> IN-12 – 153 pcs. >>> >>> IN-13 – 3 pcs. >>> >>> IN-14 – 337 pcs. >>> >>> IN-14 used – 235 pcs. >>> >>> IN-15А – 149 pcs. >>> >>> IN-15B – 9 pcs. >>> >>> IN-16 – 7 pcs. >>> >>> IN-16 used – 175 pcs. >>> >>> IN-17 – 16 pcs. >>> >>> IN-17 used – 36 pcs. >>> >>> IN-28 – 78 pcs. >>> >>> IN-33 – 28 pcs. >>> >>> IN-36 – 5 pcs. >>> >>> INS-1 – 17 pcs. >>> >>> ОG-4 – 10 pcs. >>> >>> ОG-7 – 10 pcs. >>> >>> ОG-8 – 15 pcs. >>> >>> TNI-1,5D – 6 pcs. >>> >>> Sockets for IN-2, IN-8 – 22 pcs. >>> >>> ITT5870SF (red) used – 8 pcs. >>> >>> Z570M – 14 pcs. >>> >>> Z570M used – 2 pcs. >>> >>> Z573M – 1 pc. >>> >>> Z573M used – 2 pcs. >>> >>> Z5810M – 1 pc. >>> >>> Z5810M used – 28 pcs. >>> Z5900M used – 13 pcs. >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>> Groups "neonixie-l" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>> an email to neonixie-l+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> To view this discussion on the web, visit >>> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/neonixie-l/6354269c-7946-4e97-9b24-e547fc0331f6n%40googlegroups.com >>> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/neonixie-l/6354269c-7946-4e97-9b24-e547fc0331f6n%40googlegroups.com?utm_medium=email_source=footer> >>> . >>> >> -- >> > You received this message because you are subscribed to a topic in the >> Google Groups "neonixie-l" group. >> To unsubscribe from this topic, visit >> https://groups.google.com/d/topic/neonixie-l/X2jIdssHtrQ/unsubscribe. >> To unsubscribe from this group and all its topics, send an email to >> neonixie-l+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> To view this discussion on the web, visit >> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/neonixie-l/CAAEbr9M%3DQd_pGVH2%3DmgOEGLP2G%2BA-ryvKwKVUxM8MBZjeF6-Yw%40mail.gmail.com >> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/neonixie-l/CAAEbr9M%3DQd_pGVH2%3DmgOEGLP2G%2BA-ryvKwKVUxM8MBZjeF6-Yw%40mail.gmail.com?utm_medium=email_source=footer> >> . >> > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "neonixie-l" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to neonixie-l+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To view this discussion on the web, visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/neonixie-l/CANznJEttEhk6jZ%3D0%3DRAXf8dJ0_bG2dyDE163A3a%3DXEtX8xfu%3DA%40mail.gmail.com > <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/neonixie-l/CANznJEttEhk6jZ%3D0%3DRAXf8dJ0_bG2dyDE163A3a%3DXEtX8xfu%3DA%40mail.gmail.com?utm_medium=email_source=footer> > . > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "neonixie-l" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to neonixie-l+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web, visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/neonixie-l/CAFbEjqjB56XBvrqJWQcW%2B5C-PJaqLmGxgAOLAoMqTk5Q1fiv8Q%40mail.gmail.com.
Re: [neonixie-l] NIMO
Well, none of my green ones have the 'right' number on them either, so maybe they were all pre-production? On Thu, May 9, 2024 at 9:41 AM liam bartosiewicz wrote: > According to the datasheet, this tube should have the part/ordering number > BA-0006-P27, though the tubes don’t actually get marked with that > > On May 9, 2024, at 8:37 AM, Nicholas Stock wrote: > > > Hi Greg, 6000-93- on the side. So no P number as I've seen on others. > > On Thu, May 9, 2024 at 8:31 AM gregebert wrote: > >> Are there any markings, part numbers, etc that indicate this tube has a >> different phosphor ? I suspect it could be an ultra-rare engineering sample. >> >> Most of the NIMO tubes I've seen, which isn't very many, have 31 in the >> part number (P31 phosphor), though I have seen two with '92' in the part >> number that have a yellowish tint mixed with the normal green. I wasn't >> able to find any phosphor designated P92. >> >> On Wednesday, May 8, 2024 at 7:10:39 PM UTC-7 Nicholas Stock wrote: >> >>> I'm going to sell this Red NIMO tube. It's apparently unused (no >>> phosphor burn at all) and all the digits work as you can see in the video. >>> I'll be honest and upfront with everyone here, I'm looking for serious >>> offers and will keep in mind that listing it on the bay incurs fees etc, so >>> if interested, please send me an offer. >>> >>> All the other used green NIMOs sold. >>> >>> Best, >>> >>> Nick >>> >>> On Sun, Apr 28, 2024 at 7:11 PM Nicholas Stock >>> wrote: >>> >>>> I won't be trying that test :) >>>> >>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>> >>>> On Apr 28, 2024, at 19:06, liam bartosiewicz >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>> That’s super cool! I wonder if it’s better at resisting burn in than >>>> the normal green phosphor. >>>> >>>> On Apr 28, 2024, at 5:49 PM, Pramanicin wrote: >>>> >>>> Bit speechless didn't know I had this, thought it was a regular >>>> green one >>>> >>>> On Thursday, April 6, 2023 at 2:18:52 PM UTC-7 jörg wrote: >>>> >>>>> I've programmed the PWM for the green-neon bulbs. >>>>> The fading looks pretty okay for me. Same for the spacing of the bulbs. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Wednesday, April 5, 2023 at 1:43:02 AM UTC+2 Mac Doktor wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On Apr 4, 2023, at 5:08 PM, Yohan Park wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> I think these would fit nicely with the Nimo tubes. >>>>>> https://www.ebay.com/itm/195661812653 >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> The only problem is that these will work loose from vibration and >>>>>> thermal cycling. Use bayonet based bulbs instead. Trust me. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Terry Bowman, KA4HJH >>>>>> "The Mac Doctor" >>>>>> >>>>>> https://www.astarcloseup.com >>>>>> >>>>>> "If only you could see what I've seen with your eyes."—Roy Batty, *Blade >>>>>> Runner* >>>>>> >>>>> -- >>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>> Groups "neonixie-l" group. >>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>>> an email to neonixie-l+...@googlegroups.com. >>>> To view this discussion on the web, visit >>>> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/neonixie-l/43fd675c-b91a-4a01-8457-2df4e458ce61n%40googlegroups.com >>>> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/neonixie-l/43fd675c-b91a-4a01-8457-2df4e458ce61n%40googlegroups.com?utm_medium=email_source=footer> >>>> . >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>> Groups "neonixie-l" group. >>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>>> an email to neonixie-l+...@googlegroups.com. >>>> To view this discussion on the web, visit >>>> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/neonixie-l/1CE07839-A37D-4688-B715-EF435653951B%40gmail.com >>>> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/neonixie-l/1CE07839-A37D-4688-B715-EF435653951B%40gmail.com?utm_medium=email_source
Re: [neonixie-l] IN-13 driver circuit resistor power rating
> On May 7, 2024, at 9:55 PM, Zachary wrote:
>
> Yes that does in fact confuse me even more.
I must be psychic.
> However I looked at the component list from the source of the image you sent
> ("M. Moores' Nixie Thermometer Kit") and he does use 1/4W resistors and not
> >1W like the Russian datasheet indicates so that's good.
I have the thermometer. It's designed to only travel halfway up the IN-13.
Seeing as how 140V x 4.5mA = 0.63W, perhaps Mike's playing it safe with the
current. Or it may play nicer with "bad" ones.
> I'm not sure what I need for Q2 however. Should I use a second MJD340 (which
> is the SMD version of the MJE340 I've seen on many existing design) or any
> transistor will do? Or do I need it at all? Many designs don't include it for
> some reason.
Mike seems to be a fan of discrete circuits so there must be some magic going
on here. You should ask him.
> My understanding is that it's there for because of this from the Russian
> datasheet:
> > "To avoid braking the light column when switching abruptly, we recommend:
> > When switching on, the main cathode should not be on, and there should only
> > be current on the auxiliary cathode."
I'm not sure that I've ever seen it actually done that way.
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Re: [neonixie-l] NIMO
According to the datasheet, this tube should have the part/ordering number BA-0006-P27, though the tubes don’t actually get marked with that On May 9, 2024, at 8:37 AM, Nicholas Stock wrote:Hi Greg, 6000-93- on the side. So no P number as I've seen on others.On Thu, May 9, 2024 at 8:31 AM gregebert <gregeb...@hotmail.com> wrote:Are there any markings, part numbers, etc that indicate this tube has a different phosphor ? I suspect it could be an ultra-rare engineering sample.Most of the NIMO tubes I've seen, which isn't very many, have 31 in the part number (P31 phosphor), though I have seen two with '92' in the part number that have a yellowish tint mixed with the normal green. I wasn't able to find any phosphor designated P92.On Wednesday, May 8, 2024 at 7:10:39 PM UTC-7 Nicholas Stock wrote:I'm going to sell this Red NIMO tube. It's apparently unused (no phosphor burn at all) and all the digits work as you can see in the video. I'll be honest and upfront with everyone here, I'm looking for serious offers and will keep in mind that listing it on the bay incurs fees etc, so if interested, please send me an offer. All the other used green NIMOs sold.Best,NickOn Sun, Apr 28, 2024 at 7:11 PM Nicholas Stock <nick...@gmail.com> wrote:I won't be trying that test :)Sent from my iPhoneOn Apr 28, 2024, at 19:06, liam bartosiewicz <liambart...@gmail.com> wrote:That’s super cool! I wonder if it’s better at resisting burn in than the normal green phosphor.On Apr 28, 2024, at 5:49 PM, Pramanicin <nick...@gmail.com> wrote:Bit speechless didn't know I had this, thought it was a regular green oneOn Thursday, April 6, 2023 at 2:18:52 PM UTC-7 jörg wrote:I've programmed the PWM for the green-neon bulbs. The fading looks pretty okay for me. Same for the spacing of the bulbs.On Wednesday, April 5, 2023 at 1:43:02 AM UTC+2 Mac Doktor wrote:On Apr 4, 2023, at 5:08 PM, Yohan Park <w...@kitsunegari.net> wrote:I think these would fit nicely with the Nimo tubes.https://www.ebay.com/itm/195661812653The only problem is that these will work loose from vibration and thermal cycling. Use bayonet based bulbs instead. Trust me.Terry Bowman, KA4HJH"The Mac Doctor"https://www.astarcloseup.com"If only you could see what I've seen with your eyes."—Roy Batty, Blade Runner -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "neonixie-l" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to neonixie-l+...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web, visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/neonixie-l/43fd675c-b91a-4a01-8457-2df4e458ce61n%40googlegroups.com. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "neonixie-l" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to neonixie-l+...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web, visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/neonixie-l/1CE07839-A37D-4688-B715-EF435653951B%40gmail.com. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "neonixie-l" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to neonixie-l+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web, visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/neonixie-l/be576fa5-88f1-4460-9bc3-591df557912dn%40googlegroups.com. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "neonixie-l" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to neonixie-l+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web, visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/neonixie-l/CAOX%2BRH%2BiX2FjbmhGycpxPGFsC2rUnvsJW5dm2oQFVg98FGxYrQ%40mail.gmail.com. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "neonixie-l" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to neonixie-l+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web, visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/neonixie-l/7812247B-6648-4C6F-936C-1887426CFF3D%40gmail.com.
Re: [neonixie-l] NIMO
Hi Greg, 6000-93- on the side. So no P number as I've seen on others. On Thu, May 9, 2024 at 8:31 AM gregebert wrote: > Are there any markings, part numbers, etc that indicate this tube has a > different phosphor ? I suspect it could be an ultra-rare engineering sample. > > Most of the NIMO tubes I've seen, which isn't very many, have 31 in the > part number (P31 phosphor), though I have seen two with '92' in the part > number that have a yellowish tint mixed with the normal green. I wasn't > able to find any phosphor designated P92. > > On Wednesday, May 8, 2024 at 7:10:39 PM UTC-7 Nicholas Stock wrote: > >> I'm going to sell this Red NIMO tube. It's apparently unused (no phosphor >> burn at all) and all the digits work as you can see in the video. I'll be >> honest and upfront with everyone here, I'm looking for serious offers and >> will keep in mind that listing it on the bay incurs fees etc, so if >> interested, please send me an offer. >> >> All the other used green NIMOs sold. >> >> Best, >> >> Nick >> >> On Sun, Apr 28, 2024 at 7:11 PM Nicholas Stock wrote: >> >>> I won't be trying that test :) >>> >>> Sent from my iPhone >>> >>> On Apr 28, 2024, at 19:06, liam bartosiewicz >>> wrote: >>> >>> >>> That’s super cool! I wonder if it’s better at resisting burn in than the >>> normal green phosphor. >>> >>> On Apr 28, 2024, at 5:49 PM, Pramanicin wrote: >>> >>> Bit speechless didn't know I had this, thought it was a regular >>> green one >>> >>> On Thursday, April 6, 2023 at 2:18:52 PM UTC-7 jörg wrote: >>> >>>> I've programmed the PWM for the green-neon bulbs. >>>> The fading looks pretty okay for me. Same for the spacing of the bulbs. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On Wednesday, April 5, 2023 at 1:43:02 AM UTC+2 Mac Doktor wrote: >>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Apr 4, 2023, at 5:08 PM, Yohan Park wrote: >>>>> >>>>> I think these would fit nicely with the Nimo tubes. >>>>> https://www.ebay.com/itm/195661812653 >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> The only problem is that these will work loose from vibration and >>>>> thermal cycling. Use bayonet based bulbs instead. Trust me. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Terry Bowman, KA4HJH >>>>> "The Mac Doctor" >>>>> >>>>> https://www.astarcloseup.com >>>>> >>>>> "If only you could see what I've seen with your eyes."—Roy Batty, *Blade >>>>> Runner* >>>>> >>>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>> Groups "neonixie-l" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>> an email to neonixie-l+...@googlegroups.com. >>> To view this discussion on the web, visit >>> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/neonixie-l/43fd675c-b91a-4a01-8457-2df4e458ce61n%40googlegroups.com >>> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/neonixie-l/43fd675c-b91a-4a01-8457-2df4e458ce61n%40googlegroups.com?utm_medium=email_source=footer> >>> . >>> >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>> Groups "neonixie-l" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>> an email to neonixie-l+...@googlegroups.com. >>> To view this discussion on the web, visit >>> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/neonixie-l/1CE07839-A37D-4688-B715-EF435653951B%40gmail.com >>> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/neonixie-l/1CE07839-A37D-4688-B715-EF435653951B%40gmail.com?utm_medium=email_source=footer> >>> . >>> >>> -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "neonixie-l" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to neonixie-l+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To view this discussion on the web, visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/neonixie-l/be576fa5-88f1-4460-9bc3-591df557912dn%40googlegroups.com > <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/neonixie-l/be576fa5-88f1-4460-9bc3-591df557912dn%40googlegroups.com?utm_medium=email_source=footer> > . > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "neonixie-l" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to neonixie-l+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web, visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/neonixie-l/CAOX%2BRH%2BiX2FjbmhGycpxPGFsC2rUnvsJW5dm2oQFVg98FGxYrQ%40mail.gmail.com.
Re: [neonixie-l] NIMO
Are there any markings, part numbers, etc that indicate this tube has a different phosphor ? I suspect it could be an ultra-rare engineering sample. Most of the NIMO tubes I've seen, which isn't very many, have 31 in the part number (P31 phosphor), though I have seen two with '92' in the part number that have a yellowish tint mixed with the normal green. I wasn't able to find any phosphor designated P92. On Wednesday, May 8, 2024 at 7:10:39 PM UTC-7 Nicholas Stock wrote: > I'm going to sell this Red NIMO tube. It's apparently unused (no phosphor > burn at all) and all the digits work as you can see in the video. I'll be > honest and upfront with everyone here, I'm looking for serious offers and > will keep in mind that listing it on the bay incurs fees etc, so if > interested, please send me an offer. > > All the other used green NIMOs sold. > > Best, > > Nick > > On Sun, Apr 28, 2024 at 7:11 PM Nicholas Stock wrote: > >> I won't be trying that test :) >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >> On Apr 28, 2024, at 19:06, liam bartosiewicz >> wrote: >> >> >> That’s super cool! I wonder if it’s better at resisting burn in than the >> normal green phosphor. >> >> On Apr 28, 2024, at 5:49 PM, Pramanicin wrote: >> >> Bit speechless didn't know I had this, thought it was a regular >> green one >> >> On Thursday, April 6, 2023 at 2:18:52 PM UTC-7 jörg wrote: >> >>> I've programmed the PWM for the green-neon bulbs. >>> The fading looks pretty okay for me. Same for the spacing of the bulbs. >>> >>> >>> >>> On Wednesday, April 5, 2023 at 1:43:02 AM UTC+2 Mac Doktor wrote: >>> >>>> >>>> On Apr 4, 2023, at 5:08 PM, Yohan Park wrote: >>>> >>>> I think these would fit nicely with the Nimo tubes. >>>> https://www.ebay.com/itm/195661812653 >>>> >>>> >>>> The only problem is that these will work loose from vibration and >>>> thermal cycling. Use bayonet based bulbs instead. Trust me. >>>> >>>> >>>> Terry Bowman, KA4HJH >>>> "The Mac Doctor" >>>> >>>> https://www.astarcloseup.com >>>> >>>> "If only you could see what I've seen with your eyes."—Roy Batty, *Blade >>>> Runner* >>>> >>> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "neonixie-l" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to neonixie-l+...@googlegroups.com. >> To view this discussion on the web, visit >> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/neonixie-l/43fd675c-b91a-4a01-8457-2df4e458ce61n%40googlegroups.com >> >> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/neonixie-l/43fd675c-b91a-4a01-8457-2df4e458ce61n%40googlegroups.com?utm_medium=email_source=footer> >> . >> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "neonixie-l" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to neonixie-l+...@googlegroups.com. >> To view this discussion on the web, visit >> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/neonixie-l/1CE07839-A37D-4688-B715-EF435653951B%40gmail.com >> >> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/neonixie-l/1CE07839-A37D-4688-B715-EF435653951B%40gmail.com?utm_medium=email_source=footer> >> . >> >> -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "neonixie-l" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to neonixie-l+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web, visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/neonixie-l/be576fa5-88f1-4460-9bc3-591df557912dn%40googlegroups.com.
Re: [neonixie-l] NIMO
I'm going to sell this Red NIMO tube. It's apparently unused (no phosphor burn at all) and all the digits work as you can see in the video. I'll be honest and upfront with everyone here, I'm looking for serious offers and will keep in mind that listing it on the bay incurs fees etc, so if interested, please send me an offer. All the other used green NIMOs sold. Best, Nick On Sun, Apr 28, 2024 at 7:11 PM Nicholas Stock wrote: > I won't be trying that test :) > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Apr 28, 2024, at 19:06, liam bartosiewicz > wrote: > > > That’s super cool! I wonder if it’s better at resisting burn in than the > normal green phosphor. > > On Apr 28, 2024, at 5:49 PM, Pramanicin wrote: > > Bit speechless didn't know I had this, thought it was a regular green > one > > On Thursday, April 6, 2023 at 2:18:52 PM UTC-7 jörg wrote: > >> I've programmed the PWM for the green-neon bulbs. >> The fading looks pretty okay for me. Same for the spacing of the bulbs. >> >> >> >> On Wednesday, April 5, 2023 at 1:43:02 AM UTC+2 Mac Doktor wrote: >> >>> >>> On Apr 4, 2023, at 5:08 PM, Yohan Park wrote: >>> >>> I think these would fit nicely with the Nimo tubes. >>> https://www.ebay.com/itm/195661812653 >>> >>> >>> The only problem is that these will work loose from vibration and >>> thermal cycling. Use bayonet based bulbs instead. Trust me. >>> >>> >>> Terry Bowman, KA4HJH >>> "The Mac Doctor" >>> >>> https://www.astarcloseup.com >>> >>> "If only you could see what I've seen with your eyes."—Roy Batty, *Blade >>> Runner* >>> >> -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "neonixie-l" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to neonixie-l+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To view this discussion on the web, visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/neonixie-l/43fd675c-b91a-4a01-8457-2df4e458ce61n%40googlegroups.com > <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/neonixie-l/43fd675c-b91a-4a01-8457-2df4e458ce61n%40googlegroups.com?utm_medium=email_source=footer> > . > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "neonixie-l" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to neonixie-l+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To view this discussion on the web, visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/neonixie-l/1CE07839-A37D-4688-B715-EF435653951B%40gmail.com > <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/neonixie-l/1CE07839-A37D-4688-B715-EF435653951B%40gmail.com?utm_medium=email_source=footer> > . > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "neonixie-l" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to neonixie-l+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web, visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/neonixie-l/CAOX%2BRH%2BsZuy2-kmdrBHD0%2BnHwcW-93se3wsogL-1p9ZkXg5faQ%40mail.gmail.com.
Re: [neonixie-l] IN-13 driver circuit resistor power rating
Yes that does in fact confuse me even more. However I looked at the
component list from the source of the image you sent ("M. Moores' Nixie
Thermometer Kit") and he does use 1/4W resistors and not >1W like the
Russian datasheet indicates so that's good.
Here's the circuit I currently have which is a mix of what I could find
online. So far all of the components fit on a 25x20mm PCB (I intend on
making small individual sockets). I'm using an I2C DAC (MCP4706) so that I
can drive more than 6 bargraphs with an Arduino Uno (which can only do 6
PWM at once) with fewer pins. This one has 8 addresses so 8 tubes.
I'm not sure what I need for Q2 however. Should I use a second MJD340
(which is the SMD version of the MJE340 I've seen on many existing design)
or any transistor will do? Or do I need it at all? Many designs don't
include it for some reason. My understanding is that it's there for because
of this from the Russian datasheet:
> "To avoid braking the light column when switching abruptly, we recommend:
When switching on, the main cathode should not be on, and there should only
be current on the auxiliary cathode."
On Tuesday, May 7, 2024 at 9:17:50 PM UTC-4 Mac Doktor wrote:
>
> On May 7, 2024, at 9:05 PM, gregebert wrote:
>
> 4.5mA wont be a problem for a 1.5K (or smaller) SMT resistor, because the
> power is 30mW (or less). I guess the 3-terminal IN-13 has a much better
> behavior than the 2-terminal IN-9.
>
>
> It's the "improved version". Here are some articles that delve deep into
> the IN-13:
>
> https://www.saltechips.com/lab/
>
> Very interesting.
>
>
> Terry Bowman, KA4HJH
> "The Mac Doctor"
>
> https://www.astarcloseup.com
>
> "Would you like to see the relevant data?"—343 Guilty Spark, *Halo 2*
>
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Re: Re: [neonixie-l] IN-13 driver circuit resistor power rating
> On May 7, 2024, at 9:05 PM, gregebert <mailto:gregeb...@hotmail.com>> wrote: > > 4.5mA wont be a problem for a 1.5K (or smaller) SMT resistor, because the > power is 30mW (or less). I guess the 3-terminal IN-13 has a much better > behavior than the 2-terminal IN-9. It's the "improved version". Here are some articles that delve deep into the IN-13: https://www.saltechips.com/lab/ <https://www.saltechips.com/lab/> Very interesting. Terry Bowman, KA4HJH "The Mac Doctor" https://www.astarcloseup.com "Would you like to see the relevant data?"—343 Guilty Spark, Halo 2 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "neonixie-l" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to neonixie-l+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web, visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/neonixie-l/05B7DE13-3837-4B0D-AF1B-7E078DB9A415%40gmail.com.
Re: [neonixie-l] Re: IN-13 driver circuit resistor power rating
4.5mA wont be a problem for a 1.5K (or smaller) SMT resistor, because the power is 30mW (or less). I guess the 3-terminal IN-13 has a much better behavior than the 2-terminal IN-9. On Tuesday, May 7, 2024 at 12:51:09 PM UTC-7 Mac Doktor wrote: > Forgot to include this. It may be helpful or it might simply confuse you > even more: > > > Terry Bowman, KA4HJH > "The Mac Doctor" > > https://www.astarcloseup.com > > “...the book said something astonishing, a very big thought. The stars, it > said, were suns but very far away. The Sun was a star but close up.”—Carl > Sagan, "The Backbone Of Night", *Cosmos*, 1980 > > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "neonixie-l" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to neonixie-l+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web, visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/neonixie-l/2026b66c-6f80-4aad-8c8e-c02f08abdb40n%40googlegroups.com.
Re: [neonixie-l] Re: Unique Nixie project with IN-7X family!
That is awesome! I've had an obsession with tube clocks since 2018, and finally designed and built one this last week. It's nice seeing other beginner designs. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "neonixie-l" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to neonixie-l+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web, visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/neonixie-l/CAOt79-u%3DxQ99Ek2b-E7dv2R%2B5iTvL0n2CV3mdnt%3DE09r71%3DJrQ%40mail.gmail.com.
Re: [neonixie-l] Re: Unique Nixie project with IN-7X family!
Very inventive, nice use of the symbol nixies. The animations look cool. Well done.Cheers,NickSent from my iPhoneOn May 7, 2024, at 00:04, newxito wrote:Great idea, very nice! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "neonixie-l" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to neonixie-l+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web, visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/neonixie-l/9556f653-5587-4c52-b25b-4e73b335b3ecn%40googlegroups.com. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "neonixie-l" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to neonixie-l+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web, visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/neonixie-l/99E72EFC-EA33-466C-9622-0F301CB7C1B6%40gmail.com.
Re: [neonixie-l] Re: IN-13 driver circuit resistor power rating
Forgot to include this. It may be helpful or it might simply confuse you even more: Terry Bowman, KA4HJH "The Mac Doctor" https://www.astarcloseup.com “...the book said something astonishing, a very big thought. The stars, it said, were suns but very far away. The Sun was a star but close up.”—Carl Sagan, "The Backbone Of Night", Cosmos, 1980 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "neonixie-l" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to neonixie-l+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web, visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/neonixie-l/B78C5232-DB98-4E0A-9C62-AA882EF731A2%40gmail.com.
Re: [neonixie-l] Re: IN-13 driver circuit resistor power rating
> On May 6, 2024, at 10:44 PM, gregebert wrote: > > These tubes draw quite a lot of power. I've only worked on the IN-9, and I > recall it needed close to 20mA to get a full glow, so 1-2 watts is the right > ballpark. R1 & R2 will be around 100mW worst-case, so 0805 should work. An always useful graphic: Terry Bowman, KA4HJH "The Mac Doctor" https://www.astarcloseup.com "Would you like to see the relevant data?"—343 Guilty Spark, Halo 2 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "neonixie-l" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to neonixie-l+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web, visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/neonixie-l/306D1E24-EB1E-4F27-97A7-0F658F1D407B%40gmail.com.
[neonixie-l] Re: IN-13 driver circuit resistor power rating
The IN-13 is only 4mA to fully light up. I think the formula for R3 and R4 is P=(I^2)(V) since they're in series and that gives less than 0.1W for both. So I could use a 0.25W resistor for them. Does that sound right or am I using the wrong formula? On Monday, May 6, 2024 at 10:44:31 PM UTC-4 gregebert wrote: > These tubes draw quite a lot of power. I've only worked on the IN-9, and I > recall it needed close to 20mA to get a full glow, so 1-2 watts is the > right ballpark. R1 & R2 will be around 100mW worst-case, so 0805 should > work. > > SMT resistors put a lot more of their heat onto the PCB than a traditional > thru-hole resistor because of direct contact , so be sure to measure the > temperature carefully. Most PCBs (FR-4) have a glass-transition temp around > 130 degrees C, so you want to be well below that for reliability. > > On Monday, May 6, 2024 at 4:09:31 PM UTC-7 Zachary wrote: > >> [image: IN13.PNG] >> >> Hi, does anyone know what are the minimum required specifications of the >> resistors R3 and R4 for this IN-13 driver circuit? The voltage rating >> obviously needs to be >150V but what about the power rating? 2W and 1W seem >> very high. I'm trying to make small PCB sockets with only SMD components >> but potentiometers above 0.5W are very big. >> > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "neonixie-l" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to neonixie-l+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web, visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/neonixie-l/d6e11d7d-780a-46aa-ab4f-c223fff2b5a3n%40googlegroups.com.
[neonixie-l] Re: Unique Nixie project with IN-7X family!
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[neonixie-l] Re: IN-13 driver circuit resistor power rating
These tubes draw quite a lot of power. I've only worked on the IN-9, and I recall it needed close to 20mA to get a full glow, so 1-2 watts is the right ballpark. R1 & R2 will be around 100mW worst-case, so 0805 should work. SMT resistors put a lot more of their heat onto the PCB than a traditional thru-hole resistor because of direct contact , so be sure to measure the temperature carefully. Most PCBs (FR-4) have a glass-transition temp around 130 degrees C, so you want to be well below that for reliability. On Monday, May 6, 2024 at 4:09:31 PM UTC-7 Zachary wrote: > [image: IN13.PNG] > > Hi, does anyone know what are the minimum required specifications of the > resistors R3 and R4 for this IN-13 driver circuit? The voltage rating > obviously needs to be >150V but what about the power rating? 2W and 1W seem > very high. I'm trying to make small PCB sockets with only SMD components > but potentiometers above 0.5W are very big. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "neonixie-l" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to neonixie-l+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web, visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/neonixie-l/27ff822b-be5a-4a0b-9962-b289fee511d5n%40googlegroups.com.
Re: [neonixie-l] Substitution list
> On May 5, 2024, at 11:08 AM, Robert wrote: > > Is there a comprehensive substitution list anywhere on line? This is about as comprehensive as it gets: https://web.archive.org/web/20140328202208/http://mysite.verizon.net/res0fab4/files/nixdat.htm <https://web.archive.org/web/20140328202208/http://mysite.verizon.net/res0fab4/files/nixdat.htm> Terry Bowman, KA4HJH "The Mac Doctor" https://www.astarcloseup.com "Would you like to see the relevant data?"—343 Guilty Spark, Halo 2 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "neonixie-l" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to neonixie-l+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web, visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/neonixie-l/0758C161-8970-4789-8741-08EA7844F173%40gmail.com.
[neonixie-l] Substitution list
Is there a comprehensive substitution list anywhere on line? Thanks Rob -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "neonixie-l" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to neonixie-l+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web, visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/neonixie-l/4093C861-DB44-4914-A279-4F342E0FDC3C%40gmail.com.
[neonixie-l] Nixie for sale
Hi, I can offer: 3LS321B1 – 2 pcs. А-101 – 1 pc. А-102 – 12 pcs. А-103 – 10 pcs. А-108 – 6 pcs. А-201 – 13 pcs. IV-1 – 74 pcs. IV-3А – 1 pc. IV-3А used – 9 pcs. IV-4 – 88 pcs. IV-6 – 8 pcs. IV-6 used – 6 pcs. IV-8 – 4 pcs. IV-9 – 10 pcs. IV-12 – 2 pcs. IV-22 – 3 pcs. IV-26 tipe 1 – 13 pcs. IV-28А – 1 pc. IVL2-7/5 – 22 pcs. IVLShU1-11/2 – 36 pcs. IN-1 – 3 pcs. IN-2 – 97 pcs. IN-3 – 200 pcs. IN-4 – 19 pcs. IN-6 – 90 pcs. IN-7 – 4 pcs. IN-8 – 1 pc. IN-8-2 – 44 pcs. IN-12 – 400 pcs. IN-12 used - 1500 pcs. IN-13 – 3 pcs. IN-14 – 337 pcs. IN-14 used – 1235 pcs. IN-15А – 149 pcs. IN-15B – 9 pcs. IN-16 – 7 pcs. IN-16 used – 175 pcs. IN-17 – 16 pcs. IN-17 used – 36 pcs. IN-28 – 78 pcs. IN-33 – 28 pcs. IN-36 – 5 pcs. INS-1 – 17 pcs. ОG-4 – 10 pcs. ОG-7 – 10 pcs. ОG-8 – 15 pcs. TNI-1,5D – 6 pcs. Sockets for IN-2, IN-8 – 22 pcs. ITT5870SF (red) used – 8 pcs. Z570M – 14 pcs. Z570M used – 2 pcs. Z573M – 1 pc. Z573M used – 2 pcs. Z5810M – 1 pc. Z5810M used – 28 pcs. Z5900M used – 13 pcs. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "neonixie-l" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to neonixie-l+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web, visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/neonixie-l/f6845ee1-0ff8-4e9f-9b29-b3c56cd26581n%40googlegroups.com.
Re: [neonixie-l] ZM1350
No drama - all is fair etc etc etc! I am just two short for a project - if you ever find that you have spare! I am currently working on a 12 digit smart socket based project for other displays - I've done a bit with Smart Sockets over the years - if you end up going that route I'd be happy to compare notes. - Richard On Monday 29 April 2024 at 07:35:42 UTC+1 Michail Wilson wrote: > Sorry bud, if I knew it was you…… Ummm, Ok, I would still have bid on > them. Heh. > > Finally, after many years of waiting on them, they appeared on ebay (at > least that I have noticed) and barely got them because of the UK only > listing. > > > > I’m excited to make ‘something’ with them. > > > > Michail Wilson > > 206-920-6312 <(206)%20920-6312> > > > > *From:* neoni...@googlegroups.com *On Behalf > Of *Richard Scales > *Sent:* Sunday, April 28, 2024 11:01 PM > *To:* neonixie-l > *Subject:* Re: [neonixie-l] ZM1350 > > > > I bid too (I am in the UK and I was aware of their provenance and I live > just 20 minutes away from them!) - it was interesting watching the numbers > going up! > > > > I'd be fairly confident that they were all good. > > > > Well done on outbidding me ;-) > > - Richard > > > > > > On Monday 29 April 2024 at 03:18:24 UTC+1 Michail Wilson wrote: > > I won the auction which some might wonder how since they were not sold to > the USA. > > I’ve been talking to a guy from the Ukraine and he sent me a link. I > decided I wanted them, but seller would not ship out of the country. > > > > I’m in a Bitcoin forum/chat rooms and someone I’ve dealt with for a while > had me thinking….. I had him bid and pay for me. > > > > Story on the auction… Not tested. Auction says 6, but 4 extra included > just in case. So, possibly 10. Since I’ve only ever had two, I decided > to win it. > > Talking to seller and it turns out they were part of the late John Smout’s > collection. Now I got really excited and thinking all 10 should be good. > > > > Two days prior to having a friend bid on them had me worried, because he > didn’t answer messages. Uhhhg. He came through and manually bid for me. > > > > So, a double shipping, and I will find out in about a month. Well, maybe > longer since I don’t have any project boards, etc. > > > > My guess is about 1125 L total. Around $150 each assuming all are good. > Not considering the extras in the package yet. > > > > Note: I picked up another of his auctions as well which was VFDs. IV-25’s > > > > Michail Wilson > > 206-920-6312 <(206)%20920-6312> > > > > *From:* neoni...@googlegroups.com *On Behalf > Of *Nicholas Stock > *Sent:* Sunday, April 28, 2024 4:31 PM > *To:* neoni...@googlegroups.com > *Subject:* Re: [neonixie-l] ZM1350 > > > > I've given up thinking what a good price is now that looks like about > $200 each when taking tax/currency conversion into account. > > > > They are very nice tubes when lit up. They've gone to a good home > (presumably Michail from his smiley face reply... ;) > > > > On Sun, Apr 28, 2024 at 4:28 PM Robert wrote: > > Good price? > > > > > > Rob > > > > On 28 Apr 2024, at 16:16, Michail Wilson wrote: > > > > > > > > Michail Wilson > > 206-920-6312 <(206)%20920-6312> > > > > *From:* neoni...@googlegroups.com *On Behalf > Of *Robert > *Sent:* Sunday, April 28, 2024 4:55 AM > *To:* neoni...@googlegroups.com > *Subject:* [neonixie-l] ZM1350 > > > > Not my auction but did anyone on here get them > > > > > > https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/266778846760?mkcid=16=1=711-127632-2357-0=oUHk6HLEQUG=4429486=U1YeAcPgQ5y=_ver=artemis=COPY > > <https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/266778846760?mkcid=16=1=711-127632-2357-0=oUHk6HLEQUG=4429486=U1YeAcPgQ5y=_ver=artemis=COPY> > > > > > > Rob > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "neonixie-l" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to neonixie-l+...@googlegroups.com. > To view this discussion on the web, visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/neonixie-l/E7BC25D2-B3E4-4C9B-8D2D-B0B8BC7C5C10%40gmail.com > > <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/neonixie-l/E7BC25D2-B3E4-4C9B-8D2D-B0B8BC7C5C10%40gmail.com?utm_medium=email_source=footer> > . > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "neonixie-l" group. >
RE: [neonixie-l] ZM1350
Sorry bud, if I knew it was you…… Ummm, Ok, I would still have bid on them. Heh. Finally, after many years of waiting on them, they appeared on ebay (at least that I have noticed) and barely got them because of the UK only listing. I’m excited to make ‘something’ with them. Michail Wilson 206-920-6312 From: neonixie-l@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Richard Scales Sent: Sunday, April 28, 2024 11:01 PM To: neonixie-l Subject: Re: [neonixie-l] ZM1350 I bid too (I am in the UK and I was aware of their provenance and I live just 20 minutes away from them!) - it was interesting watching the numbers going up! I'd be fairly confident that they were all good. Well done on outbidding me ;-) - Richard On Monday 29 April 2024 at 03:18:24 UTC+1 Michail Wilson wrote: I won the auction which some might wonder how since they were not sold to the USA. I’ve been talking to a guy from the Ukraine and he sent me a link. I decided I wanted them, but seller would not ship out of the country. I’m in a Bitcoin forum/chat rooms and someone I’ve dealt with for a while had me thinking….. I had him bid and pay for me. Story on the auction… Not tested. Auction says 6, but 4 extra included just in case. So, possibly 10. Since I’ve only ever had two, I decided to win it. Talking to seller and it turns out they were part of the late John Smout’s collection. Now I got really excited and thinking all 10 should be good. Two days prior to having a friend bid on them had me worried, because he didn’t answer messages. Uhhhg. He came through and manually bid for me. So, a double shipping, and I will find out in about a month. Well, maybe longer since I don’t have any project boards, etc. My guess is about 1125 L total. Around $150 each assuming all are good. Not considering the extras in the package yet. Note: I picked up another of his auctions as well which was VFDs. IV-25’s Michail Wilson 206-920-6312 From: neoni...@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Nicholas Stock Sent: Sunday, April 28, 2024 4:31 PM To: neoni...@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [neonixie-l] ZM1350 I've given up thinking what a good price is now that looks like about $200 each when taking tax/currency conversion into account. They are very nice tubes when lit up. They've gone to a good home (presumably Michail from his smiley face reply... ;) On Sun, Apr 28, 2024 at 4:28 PM Robert wrote: Good price? Rob On 28 Apr 2024, at 16:16, Michail Wilson wrote: Michail Wilson 206-920-6312 From: neoni...@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Robert Sent: Sunday, April 28, 2024 4:55 AM To: neoni...@googlegroups.com Subject: [neonixie-l] ZM1350 Not my auction but did anyone on here get them https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/266778846760?mkcid=16=1=711-127632-2357-0=oUHk6HLEQUG=4429486=U1YeAcPgQ5y=_ver=artemis=COPY<https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/266778846760?mkcid=16=1=711-127632-2357-0=oUHk6HLEQUG=4429486=U1YeAcPgQ5y=_ver=artemis=COPY> Rob -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "neonixie-l" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to neonixie-l+...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web, visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/neonixie-l/E7BC25D2-B3E4-4C9B-8D2D-B0B8BC7C5C10%40gmail.com<https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/neonixie-l/E7BC25D2-B3E4-4C9B-8D2D-B0B8BC7C5C10%40gmail.com?utm_medium=email_source=footer>. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "neonixie-l" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to neonixie-l+...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web, visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/neonixie-l/SA0PR01MB617010535213044DDD4849CA82142%40SA0PR01MB6170.prod.exchangelabs.com<https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/neonixie-l/SA0PR01MB617010535213044DDD4849CA82142%40SA0PR01MB6170.prod.exchangelabs.com?utm_medium=email_source=footer>. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "neonixie-l" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to neonixie-l+...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web, visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/neonixie-l/9455D4FD-B81B-4131-A101-CB70B3EA8068%40gmail.com<https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/neonixie-l/9455D4FD-B81B-4131-A101-CB70B3EA8068%40gmail.com?utm_medium=email_source=footer>. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "neonixie-l" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to neonixie-l+...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web, visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/neonixie-l/CAOX%2BRH%2Bq1%2B%3Du%3D0Yj6vBX3O-BPsVgP4Tkqdvj0smn_S6VJtFoLw%40mail.gmail.com<https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/neonixie-l/CAOX%2BRH%2Bq1%2B%3Du%3D0Yj6vBX3O-BPsVgP4Tkqdvj0smn
Re: [neonixie-l] ZM1350
I bid too (I am in the UK and I was aware of their provenance and I live just 20 minutes away from them!) - it was interesting watching the numbers going up! I'd be fairly confident that they were all good. Well done on outbidding me ;-) - Richard On Monday 29 April 2024 at 03:18:24 UTC+1 Michail Wilson wrote: > I won the auction which some might wonder how since they were not sold to > the USA. > > I’ve been talking to a guy from the Ukraine and he sent me a link. I > decided I wanted them, but seller would not ship out of the country. > > > > I’m in a Bitcoin forum/chat rooms and someone I’ve dealt with for a while > had me thinking….. I had him bid and pay for me. > > > > Story on the auction… Not tested. Auction says 6, but 4 extra included > just in case. So, possibly 10. Since I’ve only ever had two, I decided > to win it. > > Talking to seller and it turns out they were part of the late John Smout’s > collection. Now I got really excited and thinking all 10 should be good. > > > > Two days prior to having a friend bid on them had me worried, because he > didn’t answer messages. Uhhhg. He came through and manually bid for me. > > > > So, a double shipping, and I will find out in about a month. Well, maybe > longer since I don’t have any project boards, etc. > > > > My guess is about 1125 L total. Around $150 each assuming all are good. > Not considering the extras in the package yet. > > > > Note: I picked up another of his auctions as well which was VFDs. IV-25’s > > > > Michail Wilson > > 206-920-6312 <(206)%20920-6312> > > > > *From:* neoni...@googlegroups.com *On Behalf > Of *Nicholas Stock > *Sent:* Sunday, April 28, 2024 4:31 PM > *To:* neoni...@googlegroups.com > *Subject:* Re: [neonixie-l] ZM1350 > > > > I've given up thinking what a good price is now that looks like about > $200 each when taking tax/currency conversion into account. > > > > They are very nice tubes when lit up. They've gone to a good home > (presumably Michail from his smiley face reply... ;) > > > > On Sun, Apr 28, 2024 at 4:28 PM Robert wrote: > > Good price? > > > > > > Rob > > > > On 28 Apr 2024, at 16:16, Michail Wilson wrote: > > > > > > > > Michail Wilson > > 206-920-6312 <(206)%20920-6312> > > > > *From:* neoni...@googlegroups.com *On Behalf > Of *Robert > *Sent:* Sunday, April 28, 2024 4:55 AM > *To:* neoni...@googlegroups.com > *Subject:* [neonixie-l] ZM1350 > > > > Not my auction but did anyone on here get them > > > > > > https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/266778846760?mkcid=16=1=711-127632-2357-0=oUHk6HLEQUG=4429486=U1YeAcPgQ5y=_ver=artemis=COPY > > <https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/266778846760?mkcid=16=1=711-127632-2357-0=oUHk6HLEQUG=4429486=U1YeAcPgQ5y=_ver=artemis=COPY> > > > > > > Rob > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "neonixie-l" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to neonixie-l+...@googlegroups.com. > To view this discussion on the web, visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/neonixie-l/E7BC25D2-B3E4-4C9B-8D2D-B0B8BC7C5C10%40gmail.com > > <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/neonixie-l/E7BC25D2-B3E4-4C9B-8D2D-B0B8BC7C5C10%40gmail.com?utm_medium=email_source=footer> > . > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "neonixie-l" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to neonixie-l+...@googlegroups.com. > To view this discussion on the web, visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/neonixie-l/SA0PR01MB617010535213044DDD4849CA82142%40SA0PR01MB6170.prod.exchangelabs.com > > <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/neonixie-l/SA0PR01MB617010535213044DDD4849CA82142%40SA0PR01MB6170.prod.exchangelabs.com?utm_medium=email_source=footer> > . > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "neonixie-l" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to neonixie-l+...@googlegroups.com. > To view this discussion on the web, visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/neonixie-l/9455D4FD-B81B-4131-A101-CB70B3EA8068%40gmail.com > > <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/neonixie-l/9455D4FD-B81B-4131-A101-CB70B3EA8068%40gmail.com?utm_medium=email_source=footer> > . > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "
RE: [neonixie-l] ZM1350
I won the auction which some might wonder how since they were not sold to the USA. I’ve been talking to a guy from the Ukraine and he sent me a link. I decided I wanted them, but seller would not ship out of the country. I’m in a Bitcoin forum/chat rooms and someone I’ve dealt with for a while had me thinking….. I had him bid and pay for me. Story on the auction… Not tested. Auction says 6, but 4 extra included just in case. So, possibly 10. Since I’ve only ever had two, I decided to win it. Talking to seller and it turns out they were part of the late John Smout’s collection. Now I got really excited and thinking all 10 should be good. Two days prior to having a friend bid on them had me worried, because he didn’t answer messages. Uhhhg. He came through and manually bid for me. So, a double shipping, and I will find out in about a month. Well, maybe longer since I don’t have any project boards, etc. My guess is about 1125 L total. Around $150 each assuming all are good. Not considering the extras in the package yet. Note: I picked up another of his auctions as well which was VFDs. IV-25’s Michail Wilson 206-920-6312 From: neonixie-l@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Nicholas Stock Sent: Sunday, April 28, 2024 4:31 PM To: neonixie-l@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [neonixie-l] ZM1350 I've given up thinking what a good price is now that looks like about $200 each when taking tax/currency conversion into account. They are very nice tubes when lit up. They've gone to a good home (presumably Michail from his smiley face reply... ;) On Sun, Apr 28, 2024 at 4:28 PM Robert mailto:robnorman...@gmail.com>> wrote: Good price? Rob On 28 Apr 2024, at 16:16, Michail Wilson mailto:m...@michail.com>> wrote: Michail Wilson 206-920-6312 From: neonixie-l@googlegroups.com<mailto:neonixie-l@googlegroups.com> mailto:neonixie-l@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Robert Sent: Sunday, April 28, 2024 4:55 AM To: neonixie-l@googlegroups.com<mailto:neonixie-l@googlegroups.com> Subject: [neonixie-l] ZM1350 Not my auction but did anyone on here get them https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/266778846760?mkcid=16=1=711-127632-2357-0=oUHk6HLEQUG=4429486=U1YeAcPgQ5y=_ver=artemis=COPY<https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/266778846760?mkcid=16=1=711-127632-2357-0=oUHk6HLEQUG=4429486=U1YeAcPgQ5y=_ver=artemis=COPY> Rob -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "neonixie-l" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to neonixie-l+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com<mailto:neonixie-l+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com>. To view this discussion on the web, visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/neonixie-l/E7BC25D2-B3E4-4C9B-8D2D-B0B8BC7C5C10%40gmail.com<https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/neonixie-l/E7BC25D2-B3E4-4C9B-8D2D-B0B8BC7C5C10%40gmail.com?utm_medium=email_source=footer>. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "neonixie-l" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to neonixie-l+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com<mailto:neonixie-l+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com>. To view this discussion on the web, visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/neonixie-l/SA0PR01MB617010535213044DDD4849CA82142%40SA0PR01MB6170.prod.exchangelabs.com<https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/neonixie-l/SA0PR01MB617010535213044DDD4849CA82142%40SA0PR01MB6170.prod.exchangelabs.com?utm_medium=email_source=footer>. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "neonixie-l" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to neonixie-l+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com<mailto:neonixie-l+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com>. To view this discussion on the web, visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/neonixie-l/9455D4FD-B81B-4131-A101-CB70B3EA8068%40gmail.com<https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/neonixie-l/9455D4FD-B81B-4131-A101-CB70B3EA8068%40gmail.com?utm_medium=email_source=footer>. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "neonixie-l" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to neonixie-l+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com<mailto:neonixie-l+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com>. To view this discussion on the web, visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/neonixie-l/CAOX%2BRH%2Bq1%2B%3Du%3D0Yj6vBX3O-BPsVgP4Tkqdvj0smn_S6VJtFoLw%40mail.gmail.com<https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/neonixie-l/CAOX%2BRH%2Bq1%2B%3Du%3D0Yj6vBX3O-BPsVgP4Tkqdvj0smn_S6VJtFoLw%40mail.gmail.com?utm_medium=email_source=footer>. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "neonixie-l" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to neonixie-l+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view
Re: [neonixie-l] NIMO
I won't be trying that test :)Sent from my iPhoneOn Apr 28, 2024, at 19:06, liam bartosiewicz wrote:That’s super cool! I wonder if it’s better at resisting burn in than the normal green phosphor.On Apr 28, 2024, at 5:49 PM, Pramanicin wrote:Bit speechless didn't know I had this, thought it was a regular green oneOn Thursday, April 6, 2023 at 2:18:52 PM UTC-7 jörg wrote:I've programmed the PWM for the green-neon bulbs. The fading looks pretty okay for me. Same for the spacing of the bulbs.On Wednesday, April 5, 2023 at 1:43:02 AM UTC+2 Mac Doktor wrote:On Apr 4, 2023, at 5:08 PM, Yohan Park <w...@kitsunegari.net> wrote:I think these would fit nicely with the Nimo tubes.https://www.ebay.com/itm/195661812653The only problem is that these will work loose from vibration and thermal cycling. Use bayonet based bulbs instead. Trust me.Terry Bowman, KA4HJH"The Mac Doctor"https://www.astarcloseup.com"If only you could see what I've seen with your eyes."—Roy Batty, Blade Runner -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "neonixie-l" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to neonixie-l+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web, visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/neonixie-l/43fd675c-b91a-4a01-8457-2df4e458ce61n%40googlegroups.com. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "neonixie-l" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to neonixie-l+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web, visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/neonixie-l/1CE07839-A37D-4688-B715-EF435653951B%40gmail.com. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "neonixie-l" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to neonixie-l+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web, visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/neonixie-l/330801CA-9A86-4FCD-81AB-5CBC3E3E52F0%40gmail.com.
Re: [neonixie-l] NIMO
That’s super cool! I wonder if it’s better at resisting burn in than the normal green phosphor.On Apr 28, 2024, at 5:49 PM, Pramanicin wrote:Bit speechless didn't know I had this, thought it was a regular green oneOn Thursday, April 6, 2023 at 2:18:52 PM UTC-7 jörg wrote:I've programmed the PWM for the green-neon bulbs. The fading looks pretty okay for me. Same for the spacing of the bulbs.On Wednesday, April 5, 2023 at 1:43:02 AM UTC+2 Mac Doktor wrote:On Apr 4, 2023, at 5:08 PM, Yohan Park <w...@kitsunegari.net> wrote:I think these would fit nicely with the Nimo tubes.https://www.ebay.com/itm/195661812653The only problem is that these will work loose from vibration and thermal cycling. Use bayonet based bulbs instead. Trust me.Terry Bowman, KA4HJH"The Mac Doctor"https://www.astarcloseup.com"If only you could see what I've seen with your eyes."—Roy Batty, Blade Runner -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "neonixie-l" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to neonixie-l+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web, visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/neonixie-l/43fd675c-b91a-4a01-8457-2df4e458ce61n%40googlegroups.com. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "neonixie-l" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to neonixie-l+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web, visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/neonixie-l/1CE07839-A37D-4688-B715-EF435653951B%40gmail.com.
Re: [neonixie-l] The long-awaited MOD-SIX Lumina PCB KITS are now available!
BTW, just so that credit is where credit is dueCarl did a large chunk of the work on the KIT assembly notes and the Lumina Manual is Terri's handiwork from the Lumina release. Thanks again! On Sunday, April 28, 2024 at 4:33:59 PM UTC-7 Nicholas Stock wrote: > Worth it! :) > > [image: IMG_4200.jpeg] > > Thanks Michael and Carl (and Terry). Great kit, great clock and a VERY > THOROUGH manual!! > > Cheers, > > Nick > > On Fri, Apr 26, 2024 at 6:26 PM MichaelB wrote: > >> *Down to 10 KITS left!* We did a small release of these kits. Please >> let me know if you would like me to secure a set for you. Thx >> >> On Tuesday, April 9, 2024 at 1:07:40 AM UTC-7 Michail Wilson wrote: >> >>> I want 3 “Full” kits. >>> >>> >>> >>> Michail Wilson >>> >>> 206-920-6312 <(206)%20920-6312> >>> >>> >>> >>> *From:* neoni...@googlegroups.com *On >>> Behalf Of *MichaelB >>> *Sent:* Saturday, April 6, 2024 3:11 PM >>> *To:* neonixie-l >>> *Subject:* [neonixie-l] The long-awaited MOD-SIX Lumina PCB KITS are >>> now available! >>> >>> >>> >>> Board Kits are designed for the GEN V Ziggurat, but will fit past >>> slab-type MOD-SIX clocks as well >>> >>> >>> >>> Go here for pricing and availability: >>> >>> >>> >>> http://badnixie.com/Badnixie.com_Welcome.html >>> >>> >>> >>> Please email me if you're interested. Email listed at the bottom of the >>> web page >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>> Groups "neonixie-l" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>> an email to neonixie-l+...@googlegroups.com. >>> To view this discussion on the web, visit >>> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/neonixie-l/deeedcee-47f8-462c-b68b-228c7c8f0a4dn%40googlegroups.com >>> >>> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/neonixie-l/deeedcee-47f8-462c-b68b-228c7c8f0a4dn%40googlegroups.com?utm_medium=email_source=footer> >>> . >>> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "neonixie-l" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to neonixie-l+...@googlegroups.com. >> > To view this discussion on the web, visit >> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/neonixie-l/3e7105ea-3518-4daf-a280-414519783381n%40googlegroups.com >> >> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/neonixie-l/3e7105ea-3518-4daf-a280-414519783381n%40googlegroups.com?utm_medium=email_source=footer> >> . >> > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "neonixie-l" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to neonixie-l+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web, visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/neonixie-l/712fad4d-31ed-4af0-b3c0-91fbeedda262n%40googlegroups.com.
Re: [neonixie-l] NIMO
Wow... On Sun, Apr 28, 2024, 8:49 PM Pramanicin wrote: > Bit speechless didn't know I had this, thought it was a regular green > one > > On Thursday, April 6, 2023 at 2:18:52 PM UTC-7 jörg wrote: > >> I've programmed the PWM for the green-neon bulbs. >> The fading looks pretty okay for me. Same for the spacing of the bulbs. >> >> >> >> On Wednesday, April 5, 2023 at 1:43:02 AM UTC+2 Mac Doktor wrote: >> >>> >>> On Apr 4, 2023, at 5:08 PM, Yohan Park wrote: >>> >>> I think these would fit nicely with the Nimo tubes. >>> https://www.ebay.com/itm/195661812653 >>> >>> >>> The only problem is that these will work loose from vibration and >>> thermal cycling. Use bayonet based bulbs instead. Trust me. >>> >>> >>> Terry Bowman, KA4HJH >>> "The Mac Doctor" >>> >>> https://www.astarcloseup.com >>> >>> "If only you could see what I've seen with your eyes."—Roy Batty, *Blade >>> Runner* >>> >> -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "neonixie-l" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to neonixie-l+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To view this discussion on the web, visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/neonixie-l/43fd675c-b91a-4a01-8457-2df4e458ce61n%40googlegroups.com > <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/neonixie-l/43fd675c-b91a-4a01-8457-2df4e458ce61n%40googlegroups.com?utm_medium=email_source=footer> > . > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "neonixie-l" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to neonixie-l+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web, visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/neonixie-l/CAPDJQ6AWjhYjv_TrE5vefjuK%3Dhi6RwrACd68-H8emgnDRz_vpg%40mail.gmail.com.
Re: [neonixie-l] Lighting of only cathode lead wires
I've tried depoisoning a few of these 6844/5031 tubes with zero success, even at high current (20+ mA). They get hot, but wont clean-up. Whatever contaminates the surface of the cathode is rather stubborn. Perhaps it's an oxide; many of these failing tubes have a black haze inside the tube, which I suspect is Iron(II) oxide. There is a lack of oxygen, so the familiar Iron(III) oxide wont form. On Saturday, April 27, 2024 at 1:19:52 PM UTC-7 Leroy Jones wrote: > Picture of clock built in 2010 that uses NL-6844A tubes. > > On Saturday, April 27, 2024 at 1:49:40 PM UTC-4 Leroy Jones wrote: > >> Hmm. This thread somehow got deleted. But anyway, as I was >> saying.The National NL-6844A always tests better and with much more >> success than the Burroughs version ever does. >> These are certainly NOT ideal tubes. Short life. No mercury. But they >> do make up for their deficiencies by looking cool while they actually >> operate correctly. >> Especially on a clock that has them mounted on a clear case, and sticking >> out the front.-Chuck >> >> On Saturday, April 27, 2024 at 12:28:57 PM UTC-4 David wrote: >> >>> I have seen this also on these tubes. The 6844A is an early tube design >>> that didn't have mercury added to prevent cathode poisoning. I doubt that >>> anyone has done recent research on this phenomenon, so we're left with >>> conjecture. Here's mine: after the cathode gets poisoned, the plasma has to >>> be generated somewhere. That somewhere is the lead wires. Later tubes had >>> insulating paint applied to the lead wires to prevent this. It's usually >>> white or green. >>> >>> >>> David Forbes, Tucson AZ >>> >>> > On Apr 26, 2024, at 7:29 PM, Leroy Jones >>> wrote: >>> > >>> > >>> > Hello, A while back I was testing a batch of Burroughs 6844A nixie >>> tubes. >>> > None in the batch worked correctly. Only the cathode lead wires >>> glowed, not the >>> > digits themselves. I have noticed this repeatedly on Burroughs 6844A >>> tubes. >>> >> -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "neonixie-l" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to neonixie-l+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web, visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/neonixie-l/571f4cb9-40d4-4e7f-b5d1-8544b75d3569n%40googlegroups.com.
Re: [neonixie-l] ZM1350
I've given up thinking what a good price is now that looks like about $200 each when taking tax/currency conversion into account. They are very nice tubes when lit up. They've gone to a good home (presumably Michail from his smiley face reply... ;) On Sun, Apr 28, 2024 at 4:28 PM Robert wrote: > Good price? > > > Rob > > On 28 Apr 2024, at 16:16, Michail Wilson wrote: > > > > > > > > Michail Wilson > > 206-920-6312 > > > > *From:* neonixie-l@googlegroups.com *On > Behalf Of *Robert > *Sent:* Sunday, April 28, 2024 4:55 AM > *To:* neonixie-l@googlegroups.com > *Subject:* [neonixie-l] ZM1350 > > > > Not my auction but did anyone on here get them > > > > > > https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/266778846760?mkcid=16=1=711-127632-2357-0=oUHk6HLEQUG=4429486=U1YeAcPgQ5y=_ver=artemis=COPY > <https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/266778846760?mkcid=16=1=711-127632-2357-0=oUHk6HLEQUG=4429486=U1YeAcPgQ5y=_ver=artemis=COPY> > > > > > > Rob > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "neonixie-l" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to neonixie-l+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To view this discussion on the web, visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/neonixie-l/E7BC25D2-B3E4-4C9B-8D2D-B0B8BC7C5C10%40gmail.com > <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/neonixie-l/E7BC25D2-B3E4-4C9B-8D2D-B0B8BC7C5C10%40gmail.com?utm_medium=email_source=footer> > . > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "neonixie-l" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to neonixie-l+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To view this discussion on the web, visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/neonixie-l/SA0PR01MB617010535213044DDD4849CA82142%40SA0PR01MB6170.prod.exchangelabs.com > <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/neonixie-l/SA0PR01MB617010535213044DDD4849CA82142%40SA0PR01MB6170.prod.exchangelabs.com?utm_medium=email_source=footer> > . > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "neonixie-l" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to neonixie-l+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To view this discussion on the web, visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/neonixie-l/9455D4FD-B81B-4131-A101-CB70B3EA8068%40gmail.com > <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/neonixie-l/9455D4FD-B81B-4131-A101-CB70B3EA8068%40gmail.com?utm_medium=email_source=footer> > . > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "neonixie-l" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to neonixie-l+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web, visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/neonixie-l/CAOX%2BRH%2Bq1%2B%3Du%3D0Yj6vBX3O-BPsVgP4Tkqdvj0smn_S6VJtFoLw%40mail.gmail.com.
Re: [neonixie-l] ZM1350
Good price?RobOn 28 Apr 2024, at 16:16, Michail Wilson wrote: Michail Wilson 206-920-6312 From: neonixie-l@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Robert Sent: Sunday, April 28, 2024 4:55 AM To: neonixie-l@googlegroups.com Subject: [neonixie-l] ZM1350 Not my auction but did anyone on here get them https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/266778846760?mkcid=16=1=711-127632-2357-0=oUHk6HLEQUG=4429486=U1YeAcPgQ5y=_ver=artemis=COPY Rob -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "neonixie-l" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to neonixie-l+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web, visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/neonixie-l/E7BC25D2-B3E4-4C9B-8D2D-B0B8BC7C5C10%40gmail.com. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "neonixie-l" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to neonixie-l+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web, visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/neonixie-l/SA0PR01MB617010535213044DDD4849CA82142%40SA0PR01MB6170.prod.exchangelabs.com. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "neonixie-l" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to neonixie-l+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web, visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/neonixie-l/9455D4FD-B81B-4131-A101-CB70B3EA8068%40gmail.com.
[neonixie-l] Lighting of only cathode lead wires
Well the facts are that the National NL-6844A tubes always test much better than the Burroughs versions do. I know they are not ideal tubes. No mercury. Limited lifetime. But they do look cool especially on a clock that has them poking out the front. Chuck Original Message From: "David" Sent: 4/27/2024 11:35:58 AM To: neonixie-l@googlegroups.com Subject: X-IMail-SPAM-Connection Re: [neonixie-l] Lighting of only cathode lead wires I have seen this also on these tubes. The 6844A is an early tube design that didn't have mercury added to prevent cathode poisoning. I doubt that anyone has done recent research on this phenomenon, so we're left with conjecture. Here's mine: after the cathode gets poisoned, the plasma has to be generated somewhere. That somewhere is the lead wires. Later tubes had insulating paint applied to the lead wires to prevent this. It's usually white or green. David Forbes, Tucson AZ > On Apr 26, 2024, at 7:29 PM, Leroy Jones wrote: > > > Hello, A while back I was testing a batch of Burroughs 6844A nixie tubes. > None in the batch worked correctly. Only the cathode lead wires glowed, not > the > digits themselves. I have noticed this repeatedly on Burroughs 6844A tubes. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "neonixie-l" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to neonixie-l+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web, visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/neonixie-l/815E0EF3-E61A-4EB6-96EA-F381281D3604%40gmail.com. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "neonixie-l" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to neonixie-l+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web, visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/neonixie-l/202404271045663.SM1406945%40ADT-IM1.
RE: [neonixie-l] ZM1350
Michail Wilson 206-920-6312 From: neonixie-l@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Robert Sent: Sunday, April 28, 2024 4:55 AM To: neonixie-l@googlegroups.com Subject: [neonixie-l] ZM1350 Not my auction but did anyone on here get them https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/266778846760?mkcid=16=1=711-127632-2357-0=oUHk6HLEQUG=4429486=U1YeAcPgQ5y=_ver=artemis=COPY<https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/266778846760?mkcid=16=1=711-127632-2357-0=oUHk6HLEQUG=4429486=U1YeAcPgQ5y=_ver=artemis=COPY> Rob -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "neonixie-l" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to neonixie-l+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com<mailto:neonixie-l+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com>. To view this discussion on the web, visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/neonixie-l/E7BC25D2-B3E4-4C9B-8D2D-B0B8BC7C5C10%40gmail.com<https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/neonixie-l/E7BC25D2-B3E4-4C9B-8D2D-B0B8BC7C5C10%40gmail.com?utm_medium=email_source=footer>. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "neonixie-l" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to neonixie-l+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web, visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/neonixie-l/SA0PR01MB617010535213044DDD4849CA82142%40SA0PR01MB6170.prod.exchangelabs.com.
[neonixie-l] ZM1350
Not my auction but did anyone on here get them https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/266778846760?mkcid=16=1=711-127632-2357-0=oUHk6HLEQUG=4429486=U1YeAcPgQ5y=_ver=artemis=COPYRob -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "neonixie-l" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to neonixie-l+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web, visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/neonixie-l/E7BC25D2-B3E4-4C9B-8D2D-B0B8BC7C5C10%40gmail.com.
Re: [neonixie-l] Lighting of only cathode lead wires
Hmm. This thread somehow got deleted. But anyway, as I was saying.The National NL-6844A always tests better and with much more success than the Burroughs version ever does. These are certainly NOT ideal tubes. Short life. No mercury. But they do make up for their deficiencies by looking cool while they actually operate correctly. Especially on a clock that has them mounted on a clear case, and sticking out the front.-Chuck On Saturday, April 27, 2024 at 12:28:57 PM UTC-4 David wrote: > I have seen this also on these tubes. The 6844A is an early tube design > that didn't have mercury added to prevent cathode poisoning. I doubt that > anyone has done recent research on this phenomenon, so we're left with > conjecture. Here's mine: after the cathode gets poisoned, the plasma has to > be generated somewhere. That somewhere is the lead wires. Later tubes had > insulating paint applied to the lead wires to prevent this. It's usually > white or green. > > > David Forbes, Tucson AZ > > > On Apr 26, 2024, at 7:29 PM, Leroy Jones wrote: > > > > > > Hello, A while back I was testing a batch of Burroughs 6844A nixie tubes. > > None in the batch worked correctly. Only the cathode lead wires glowed, > not the > > digits themselves. I have noticed this repeatedly on Burroughs 6844A > tubes. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "neonixie-l" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to neonixie-l+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web, visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/neonixie-l/b5bd1f2f-1b52-4b0b-83c8-529204849954n%40googlegroups.com.
Re: [neonixie-l] Lighting of only cathode lead wires
I have seen this also on these tubes. The 6844A is an early tube design that didn't have mercury added to prevent cathode poisoning. I doubt that anyone has done recent research on this phenomenon, so we're left with conjecture. Here's mine: after the cathode gets poisoned, the plasma has to be generated somewhere. That somewhere is the lead wires. Later tubes had insulating paint applied to the lead wires to prevent this. It's usually white or green. David Forbes, Tucson AZ > On Apr 26, 2024, at 7:29 PM, Leroy Jones wrote: > > > Hello, A while back I was testing a batch of Burroughs 6844A nixie tubes. > None in the batch worked correctly. Only the cathode lead wires glowed, not > the > digits themselves. I have noticed this repeatedly on Burroughs 6844A tubes. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "neonixie-l" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to neonixie-l+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web, visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/neonixie-l/815E0EF3-E61A-4EB6-96EA-F381281D3604%40gmail.com.
[neonixie-l] Lighting of only cathode lead wires
Hello, A while back I was testing a batch of Burroughs 6844A nixie tubes. None in the batch worked correctly. Only the cathode lead wires glowed, not the digits themselves. I have noticed this repeatedly on Burroughs 6844A tubes. However, usually when National NL-6844A tubes (NOS and in the red boxes) are tested, they all work properly. What causes the lead-wire glow problem? And why does this happen more often with the Burroughs version? Thanks, Chuck -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "neonixie-l" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to neonixie-l+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web, visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/neonixie-l/d4b7fdb2-39c9-4adf-b2d8-8edb1f93n%40googlegroups.com.
Re: [neonixie-l] The long-awaited MOD-SIX Lumina PCB KITS are now available!
*Down to 10 KITS left!* We did a small release of these kits. Please let me know if you would like me to secure a set for you. Thx On Tuesday, April 9, 2024 at 1:07:40 AM UTC-7 Michail Wilson wrote: > I want 3 “Full” kits. > > > > Michail Wilson > > 206-920-6312 <(206)%20920-6312> > > > > *From:* neoni...@googlegroups.com *On Behalf > Of *MichaelB > *Sent:* Saturday, April 6, 2024 3:11 PM > *To:* neonixie-l > *Subject:* [neonixie-l] The long-awaited MOD-SIX Lumina PCB KITS are now > available! > > > > Board Kits are designed for the GEN V Ziggurat, but will fit past > slab-type MOD-SIX clocks as well > > > > Go here for pricing and availability: > > > > http://badnixie.com/Badnixie.com_Welcome.html > > > > Please email me if you're interested. Email listed at the bottom of the > web page > > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "neonixie-l" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to neonixie-l+...@googlegroups.com. > To view this discussion on the web, visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/neonixie-l/deeedcee-47f8-462c-b68b-228c7c8f0a4dn%40googlegroups.com > > <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/neonixie-l/deeedcee-47f8-462c-b68b-228c7c8f0a4dn%40googlegroups.com?utm_medium=email_source=footer> > . > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "neonixie-l" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to neonixie-l+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web, visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/neonixie-l/3e7105ea-3518-4daf-a280-414519783381n%40googlegroups.com.
Re: [neonixie-l] High Shipping on Cheap Tubes
Many of his other tubes ship for $7.90, so we can assume this is a typo. On Friday, April 26, 2024 at 1:02:30 PM UTC-5 leo oel wrote: > Hi, if you need these Tubes, I have a few... > > пятница, 26 апреля 2024 г. в 20:44:35 UTC+3, Nick Andrews: > >> Even at 10% would still be a ripoff! >> >> Looks like my 'predator' EIL displays will get here early, next week! >> >> On Fri, Apr 26, 2024 at 12:33 PM Mac Doktor wrote: >> >>> Do you suppose this is a typo? >>> >>> https://www.ebay.com/itm/364861847370 >>> >>> >>> Terry Bowman, KA4HJH >>> "The Mac Doctor" >>> >>> https://www.astarcloseup.com >>> >>> "If only you could see what I've seen with your eyes."—Roy Batty, *Blade >>> Runner* >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>> Groups "neonixie-l" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>> an email to neonixie-l+...@googlegroups.com. >>> To view this discussion on the web, visit >>> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/neonixie-l/752C10A9-F2AB-4DDF-BD06-6A834E6EFB88%40gmail.com >>> >>> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/neonixie-l/752C10A9-F2AB-4DDF-BD06-6A834E6EFB88%40gmail.com?utm_medium=email_source=footer> >>> . >>> >> -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "neonixie-l" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to neonixie-l+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web, visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/neonixie-l/891775cb-0423-4f15-bef6-154419ab545en%40googlegroups.com.
Re: [neonixie-l] High Shipping on Cheap Tubes
Hi, if you need these Tubes, I have a few... пятница, 26 апреля 2024 г. в 20:44:35 UTC+3, Nick Andrews: > Even at 10% would still be a ripoff! > > Looks like my 'predator' EIL displays will get here early, next week! > > On Fri, Apr 26, 2024 at 12:33 PM Mac Doktor wrote: > >> Do you suppose this is a typo? >> >> https://www.ebay.com/itm/364861847370 >> >> >> Terry Bowman, KA4HJH >> "The Mac Doctor" >> >> https://www.astarcloseup.com >> >> "If only you could see what I've seen with your eyes."—Roy Batty, *Blade >> Runner* >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "neonixie-l" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to neonixie-l+...@googlegroups.com. >> To view this discussion on the web, visit >> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/neonixie-l/752C10A9-F2AB-4DDF-BD06-6A834E6EFB88%40gmail.com >> >> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/neonixie-l/752C10A9-F2AB-4DDF-BD06-6A834E6EFB88%40gmail.com?utm_medium=email_source=footer> >> . >> > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "neonixie-l" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to neonixie-l+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web, visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/neonixie-l/fa372b61-14fd-4243-8a96-fa1415f7c33bn%40googlegroups.com.
Re: [neonixie-l] High Shipping on Cheap Tubes
Even at 10% would still be a ripoff! Looks like my 'predator' EIL displays will get here early, next week! On Fri, Apr 26, 2024 at 12:33 PM Mac Doktor wrote: > Do you suppose this is a typo? > > https://www.ebay.com/itm/364861847370 > > > Terry Bowman, KA4HJH > "The Mac Doctor" > > https://www.astarcloseup.com > > "If only you could see what I've seen with your eyes."—Roy Batty, *Blade > Runner* > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "neonixie-l" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to neonixie-l+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To view this discussion on the web, visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/neonixie-l/752C10A9-F2AB-4DDF-BD06-6A834E6EFB88%40gmail.com > <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/neonixie-l/752C10A9-F2AB-4DDF-BD06-6A834E6EFB88%40gmail.com?utm_medium=email_source=footer> > . > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "neonixie-l" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to neonixie-l+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web, visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/neonixie-l/CAJD4P-ivoHhsuKvr6rOUS%3D08qoH_Yy3a0zZYC_ouVSUvUnwOdg%40mail.gmail.com.
[neonixie-l] High Shipping on Cheap Tubes
Do you suppose this is a typo? https://www.ebay.com/itm/364861847370 <https://www.ebay.com/itm/364861847370> Terry Bowman, KA4HJH "The Mac Doctor" https://www.astarcloseup.com "If only you could see what I've seen with your eyes."—Roy Batty, Blade Runner -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "neonixie-l" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to neonixie-l+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web, visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/neonixie-l/752C10A9-F2AB-4DDF-BD06-6A834E6EFB88%40gmail.com.
Re: [neonixie-l] Large weird round panaplex
ve a few boring Bendix panaplexes and >>>>>>> was curious about their manufacture. I believe they're marked Kr85. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Mon, Apr 15, 2024, 5:47 PM Neil QQ wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Until, at least, sometime in the early 2000's 90's King Radio (aka >>>>>>>> Bendix/King) was still selling NAV and COM radios using their own >>>>>>>> numeric >>>>>>>> panaplex type displays e.g. KX155, KX165. These displays were custom >>>>>>>> designed and fabricated in-house in Olathe, KS. To the best of my >>>>>>>> knowledge they were all neon orange monochrome. The gas used was a >>>>>>>> proprietary witches brew that included several radioactive trace >>>>>>>> elements. >>>>>>>> I recall seeing a prototype ILS indicator similar to the one >>>>>>>> referenced in >>>>>>>> this thread. I don't believe the King display was commercialized. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> An ILS display shows deviation from the localizer (right-left >>>>>>>> guidance) horizontally and the glideslope deviation (up-down) guidance >>>>>>>> vertically. By "keeping the needles centered" the ILS will guide a >>>>>>>> pilot >>>>>>>> to the runway threshold. Such displays were also used for VOR >>>>>>>> navigation >>>>>>>> using only the right-left needles (or lit segments in this case). In >>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>> simplest case they would provide guidance to the VOR station and >>>>>>>> identify >>>>>>>> the cardinal radial direction that was being flown to reach the >>>>>>>> station. >>>>>>>> When executing a simple form of an instrument landing system (ILS) the >>>>>>>> pilot flies, at a particular altitude, along a "to" radial to find a >>>>>>>> particular VOR station. Once directly over the VOR the pilot flies on >>>>>>>> a >>>>>>>> specified VOR "from" radial until the localizer (right-left) and >>>>>>>> glideslope >>>>>>>> (up-down) needles move into the active range (no longer parked and >>>>>>>> "flagged" at the display extremes). From there the pilot "keeps the >>>>>>>> needles centered" until visual runway confirmation is obtained. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Saturday, April 13, 2024 at 11:27:41 PM UTC-5 Audrey wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> The seller is the author of this article. >>>>>>>>> https://www.industrialalchemy.org/articleview.php?item=3247 >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Fri, Apr 12, 2024 at 11:36 AM Nick Andrews >>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Never seen or heard about this one before. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> https://www.ebay.com/itm/276389569367?mkcid=16=1=711-127632-2357-0=AkFpft62ST6=2047675=9S4jfnnKS4i_ver=artemis=COPY >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Anyone heard of this or have one? >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>>>>>>> Groups "neonixie-l" group. >>>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, >>>>>>>>>> send an email to neonixie-l+...@googlegroups.com. >>>>>>>>>> To view this discussion on the web, visit >>>>>>>>>> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/neonixie-l/CAJD4P-ivW5%3DSwf_3hXWVXdad%3DYzA89swwt%3DP%2BqRK2xEMKJ%2B5Gw%40mail.gmail.com >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/neonixie-l/CAJD4P-ivW5%3DSwf_3hXWVXdad%3DYzA89swwt%3DP%2BqRK2xEMKJ%2B5Gw%40mail.gmail.com?utm_medium=email_source=footer> >>>>>>>>&
[neonixie-l] Rodan tubes
Do they have date codes? Rob -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "neonixie-l" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to neonixie-l+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web, visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/neonixie-l/25BDBC0B-F0DB--A63E-42B6660DF150%40gmail.com.
[neonixie-l] Neon-filled Geiger Mueller tube by Amperex type 200N
I received an email about this today. From 1958, a neon-filled Geiger Mueller tube by Amperex type 200N. (I am not affiliated with Electronic Goldmine in any way.) For Geiger-Muller tube enthusiasts: https://theelectronicgoldmine.com/products/g27942?mc_cid=c31423c98d Price $149.95 Description: - Large mica end window neon-filled Geiger Mueller tube by Amperex type 200N is made for the detection of Alpha particles, however it also detects Beta and Gamm rays. The 200N has a 1.31" dia. Mica end window and an overall size of 4" long x 0.12" dia. near window (-) end and 0.255" dia. at the (+) positive tip. - The specs are as follows: - - Plateau is in excess of 200V - - Slope plateau 5% to 10% per 100V - - Dead time approx. 200 microseconds - - 50 counts per minute max background (shielded 2" lead). - The 200N operates from 700 to 900VDC. All of the specs are from the 1958 Amperex Electron Tubes & Semiconductor catalog. The Amperex 200N tubes that we have are New Old Stock and we test each one for operation before shipping. Limited Quantity. YouTube video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rS3TpvsZabE I found this listed in Amperex_Electron_Tubes_and_Semiconductors_1958 catalog on pp22, 23: https://archive.org/details/Amperex_Electron_Tubes_and_Semiconductors_1958 Cheers, Jon D. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "neonixie-l" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to neonixie-l+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web, visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/neonixie-l/b0cc0049-3210-42cd-9919-7b2c58542af9n%40googlegroups.com.
Re: [neonixie-l] The long-awaited MOD-SIX Lumina PCB KITS are now available!
We're down to 15 KITs left, seven Full and eight Partial. All existing orders have shipped. We did an initial release of 25 kits in an effort to test the market. Please let me know if you are interested and I will hold a kit for you. THANKS for your continued support over the years of Badnixie.com products! Send me an email. badni...@badnixie.com On Tuesday, April 9, 2024 at 1:07:40 AM UTC-7 Michail Wilson wrote: > I want 3 “Full” kits. > > > > Michail Wilson > > 206-920-6312 <(206)%20920-6312> > > > > *From:* neoni...@googlegroups.com *On Behalf > Of *MichaelB > *Sent:* Saturday, April 6, 2024 3:11 PM > *To:* neonixie-l > *Subject:* [neonixie-l] The long-awaited MOD-SIX Lumina PCB KITS are now > available! > > > > Board Kits are designed for the GEN V Ziggurat, but will fit past > slab-type MOD-SIX clocks as well > > > > Go here for pricing and availability: > > > > http://badnixie.com/Badnixie.com_Welcome.html > > > > Please email me if you're interested. Email listed at the bottom of the > web page > > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "neonixie-l" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to neonixie-l+...@googlegroups.com. > To view this discussion on the web, visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/neonixie-l/deeedcee-47f8-462c-b68b-228c7c8f0a4dn%40googlegroups.com > > <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/neonixie-l/deeedcee-47f8-462c-b68b-228c7c8f0a4dn%40googlegroups.com?utm_medium=email_source=footer> > . > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "neonixie-l" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to neonixie-l+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web, visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/neonixie-l/6688d266-e26e-489d-acbd-40c6a90e70e4n%40googlegroups.com.
Re: [neonixie-l] Re: Anyone want to collaborate on electroluminescent display projects ?
Here's the current status as of April 16, 2024. The test display has been running for a few weeks now at low intensity, using my waveform generator (1kHz) and a reverse-wired power transformer. I'm not noticing any degradation of intensity yet. The inverter design has stalled for a bit while I wrap-up another clock (uses IEE projection-type displays). SPICE simulations of the inverter are showing a lot of ringing, which has been a challenge to get rid of, and there is a mysterious asymmetry into the transformer. This is causing imbalance, and that results in a net DC current, which is not only wasteful but also will cause saturation of the transformer. I'm also trending to use a triangular waveform, rather than sinusoidal, because it results in constant current (well, at least theoretically...) for the display. Opto triacs are easier to use than regular ones, so I expect to go with those and drive them from a serial chain of shift registers. I standardized a serial link for my projects using 10-conductor ribbon cable, using the same signals/levels as used by the HV5532 (and similar) drivers. Each IEL-0-IV display is 8 segments, so 48 bits will control a 6-character display via direct-drive. I wont use, or attempt to use, multiplexing. Adding more characters is as simple as adding more serial devices. Right now I think I will have 2 displays per board; keeping the PCBs less than 100mm/side (4 inches) keeps the price way down at PCBWay. A run of 10 boards is around 14 USD ($5 total for the 10 boards, $9 for shipping). As far as controlling the serial link, I use a Raspberry Pi Zero W. I'm sure any controller will work as long as you use a level-shifter for the serial interface. On Tuesday, April 16, 2024 at 2:56:07 PM UTC-7 Nick Andrews wrote: > Okay, so after realizing my search parameters were off, I found and bought > 10 of the same 'Predator" style EL displays. Supposed to be here in 5 or > so weeks... So I'll be interested. > > On Fri, Apr 5, 2024 at 2:55 AM Michail Wilson wrote: > >> That is the type of burn in I have experienced as well. >> >> Not just on the small one you have, but on the various sizes. >> >> >> >> Michail Wilson >> >> 206-920-6312 <(206)%20920-6312> >> >> >> >> *From:* neoni...@googlegroups.com *On Behalf >> Of *gregebert >> *Sent:* Tuesday, April 2, 2024 11:23 AM >> *To:* neonixie-l >> *Subject:* Re: [neonixie-l] Re: Anyone want to collaborate on >> electroluminescent display projects ? >> >> >> >> There are some on Ebay right now (I have no affiliation with the seller). >> Do a search for IEL-0. I suggest shopping around for awhile to get the >> best price. I'm a bit nervous about the IEL-0-IV displays. After 10 days of >> basic testing, my test device has noticeable burning, though I cant confirm >> if the luminous output has dropped. I need to build a photometer and do >> more testing. Prior to using it, the entire screen was the same color. >> >> >> >> >> >> On Tuesday, April 2, 2024 at 8:46:06 AM UTC-7 Nick Andrews wrote: >> >> Has anyone seen any of these for sale in the last few years? I'd be >> interested in the project if I had some! >> >> >> >> On Mon, Apr 1, 2024, 5:24 PM gregebert wrote: >> >> Right now it looks like there will be 3 different PCB's: One for the HV >> power supply, one for a single I-95, and another for 2-4 IEL-0-IV (I havn't >> sized the board yet, but it needs to be less than 4" per side). I use a >> modular design approach, and everything is connected with a 10-pin >> ribbon-cable serial bus I call IOLINK. So if you are willing to adapt your >> favorite controller to the IOLINK interface, which uses 12V signalling (2 >> inputs, 5 outputs), these boards will be workable for you. >> >> On Monday, April 1, 2024 at 7:59:59 AM UTC-7 Keith Moore wrote: >> >> I am interested but not much help with the design. I'd love to use my >> displays though. >> >> On Thursday, March 14, 2024 at 1:43:24 PM UTC-4 gregebert wrote: >> >> I'm finally at the point I have time to work on a design for my >> Soviet-era electroluminescent displays. I have 2 types, the smaller >> IEL-0-IV, and a much larger I-195. Both are the 'alien' style formats, and >> will make unusual clocks. >> >> >> >> I have done some very initial testing on the smaller one, and it appears >> to be burning the phosphor after just a few hours of usage. It's not lit >> very bright, so I dont know if this is a common burn-in phase, or not. >> Documentation is pretty limited, and I've been running
Re: [neonixie-l] Large weird round panaplex
;>>>>> proprietary witches brew that included several radioactive trace >>>>>>> elements. >>>>>>> I recall seeing a prototype ILS indicator similar to the one referenced >>>>>>> in >>>>>>> this thread. I don't believe the King display was commercialized. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> An ILS display shows deviation from the localizer (right-left >>>>>>> guidance) horizontally and the glideslope deviation (up-down) guidance >>>>>>> vertically. By "keeping the needles centered" the ILS will guide a >>>>>>> pilot >>>>>>> to the runway threshold. Such displays were also used for VOR >>>>>>> navigation >>>>>>> using only the right-left needles (or lit segments in this case). In >>>>>>> the >>>>>>> simplest case they would provide guidance to the VOR station and >>>>>>> identify >>>>>>> the cardinal radial direction that was being flown to reach the station. >>>>>>> When executing a simple form of an instrument landing system (ILS) the >>>>>>> pilot flies, at a particular altitude, along a "to" radial to find a >>>>>>> particular VOR station. Once directly over the VOR the pilot flies on a >>>>>>> specified VOR "from" radial until the localizer (right-left) and >>>>>>> glideslope >>>>>>> (up-down) needles move into the active range (no longer parked and >>>>>>> "flagged" at the display extremes). From there the pilot "keeps the >>>>>>> needles centered" until visual runway confirmation is obtained. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Saturday, April 13, 2024 at 11:27:41 PM UTC-5 Audrey wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> The seller is the author of this article. >>>>>>>> https://www.industrialalchemy.org/articleview.php?item=3247 >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Fri, Apr 12, 2024 at 11:36 AM Nick Andrews >>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Never seen or heard about this one before. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> https://www.ebay.com/itm/276389569367?mkcid=16=1=711-127632-2357-0=AkFpft62ST6=2047675=9S4jfnnKS4i_ver=artemis=COPY >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Anyone heard of this or have one? >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>>>>>> Groups "neonixie-l" group. >>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, >>>>>>>>> send an email to neonixie-l+...@googlegroups.com. >>>>>>>>> To view this discussion on the web, visit >>>>>>>>> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/neonixie-l/CAJD4P-ivW5%3DSwf_3hXWVXdad%3DYzA89swwt%3DP%2BqRK2xEMKJ%2B5Gw%40mail.gmail.com >>>>>>>>> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/neonixie-l/CAJD4P-ivW5%3DSwf_3hXWVXdad%3DYzA89swwt%3DP%2BqRK2xEMKJ%2B5Gw%40mail.gmail.com?utm_medium=email_source=footer> >>>>>>>>> . >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>>>> Groups "neonixie-l" group. >>>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, >>>>>>> send an email to neonixie-l+...@googlegroups.com. >>>>>>> >>>>>> To view this discussion on the web, visit >>>>>>> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/neonixie-l/42ea136c-7ed5-480f-9c29-2ba40025ac3an%40googlegroups.com >>>>>>> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/neonixie-l/42ea136c-7ed5-480f-9c29-2ba40025ac3an%40googlegroups.com?utm_medium=email_source=footer> >>>>>>> . >>>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>> Groups "neonixie-l" group. >>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>>>> an email to neonixie-l+...@googlegroups.com. >>>>> >>>> To view this discussion on the web, visit >>>>> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/neonixie-l/6e423ef4-db33-49a3-b32e-a10996ee34c9n%40googlegroups.com >>>>> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/neonixie-l/6e423ef4-db33-49a3-b32e-a10996ee34c9n%40googlegroups.com?utm_medium=email_source=footer> >>>>> . >>>>> >>>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>> Groups "neonixie-l" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>> an email to neonixie-l+...@googlegroups.com. >>> >> To view this discussion on the web, visit >>> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/neonixie-l/2fb48670-d192-44a2-a161-77a2e27720efn%40googlegroups.com >>> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/neonixie-l/2fb48670-d192-44a2-a161-77a2e27720efn%40googlegroups.com?utm_medium=email_source=footer> >>> . >>> >> -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "neonixie-l" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to neonixie-l+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To view this discussion on the web, visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/neonixie-l/1b52fd54-c3c6-4080-a993-c71e3c9af2bdn%40googlegroups.com > <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/neonixie-l/1b52fd54-c3c6-4080-a993-c71e3c9af2bdn%40googlegroups.com?utm_medium=email_source=footer> > . > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "neonixie-l" group. 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Re: [neonixie-l] Large weird round panaplex
guidance >>>>>> vertically. By "keeping the needles centered" the ILS will guide a >>>>>> pilot >>>>>> to the runway threshold. Such displays were also used for VOR >>>>>> navigation >>>>>> using only the right-left needles (or lit segments in this case). In >>>>>> the >>>>>> simplest case they would provide guidance to the VOR station and >>>>>> identify >>>>>> the cardinal radial direction that was being flown to reach the station. >>>>>> >>>>>> When executing a simple form of an instrument landing system (ILS) the >>>>>> pilot flies, at a particular altitude, along a "to" radial to find a >>>>>> particular VOR station. Once directly over the VOR the pilot flies on a >>>>>> specified VOR "from" radial until the localizer (right-left) and >>>>>> glideslope >>>>>> (up-down) needles move into the active range (no longer parked and >>>>>> "flagged" at the display extremes). From there the pilot "keeps the >>>>>> needles centered" until visual runway confirmation is obtained. >>>>>> >>>>>> On Saturday, April 13, 2024 at 11:27:41 PM UTC-5 Audrey wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> The seller is the author of this article. >>>>>>> https://www.industrialalchemy.org/articleview.php?item=3247 >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Fri, Apr 12, 2024 at 11:36 AM Nick Andrews >>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Never seen or heard about this one before. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> https://www.ebay.com/itm/276389569367?mkcid=16=1=711-127632-2357-0=AkFpft62ST6=2047675=9S4jfnnKS4i_ver=artemis=COPY >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Anyone heard of this or have one? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>>>>> Groups "neonixie-l" group. >>>>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, >>>>>>>> send an email to neonixie-l+...@googlegroups.com. >>>>>>>> To view this discussion on the web, visit >>>>>>>> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/neonixie-l/CAJD4P-ivW5%3DSwf_3hXWVXdad%3DYzA89swwt%3DP%2BqRK2xEMKJ%2B5Gw%40mail.gmail.com >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/neonixie-l/CAJD4P-ivW5%3DSwf_3hXWVXdad%3DYzA89swwt%3DP%2BqRK2xEMKJ%2B5Gw%40mail.gmail.com?utm_medium=email_source=footer> >>>>>>>> . >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> -- >>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>>> Groups "neonixie-l" group. >>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, >>>>>> send an email to neonixie-l+...@googlegroups.com. >>>>>> >>>>> To view this discussion on the web, visit >>>>>> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/neonixie-l/42ea136c-7ed5-480f-9c29-2ba40025ac3an%40googlegroups.com >>>>>> >>>>>> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/neonixie-l/42ea136c-7ed5-480f-9c29-2ba40025ac3an%40googlegroups.com?utm_medium=email_source=footer> >>>>>> . >>>>>> >>>>> -- >>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>> Groups "neonixie-l" group. >>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>>> an email to neonixie-l+...@googlegroups.com. >>>> >>> To view this discussion on the web, visit >>>> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/neonixie-l/6e423ef4-db33-49a3-b32e-a10996ee34c9n%40googlegroups.com >>>> >>>> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/neonixie-l/6e423ef4-db33-49a3-b32e-a10996ee34c9n%40googlegroups.com?utm_medium=email_source=footer> >>>> . >>>> >>> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "neonixie-l" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to neonixie-l+...@googlegroups.com. >> > To view this discussion on the web, visit >> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/neonixie-l/2fb48670-d192-44a2-a161-77a2e27720efn%40googlegroups.com >> >> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/neonixie-l/2fb48670-d192-44a2-a161-77a2e27720efn%40googlegroups.com?utm_medium=email_source=footer> >> . >> > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "neonixie-l" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to neonixie-l+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web, visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/neonixie-l/1b52fd54-c3c6-4080-a993-c71e3c9af2bdn%40googlegroups.com.
Re: [neonixie-l] Re: Anyone want to collaborate on electroluminescent display projects ?
Okay, so after realizing my search parameters were off, I found and bought 10 of the same 'Predator" style EL displays. Supposed to be here in 5 or so weeks... So I'll be interested. On Fri, Apr 5, 2024 at 2:55 AM Michail Wilson wrote: > That is the type of burn in I have experienced as well. > > Not just on the small one you have, but on the various sizes. > > > > Michail Wilson > > 206-920-6312 > > > > *From:* neonixie-l@googlegroups.com *On > Behalf Of *gregebert > *Sent:* Tuesday, April 2, 2024 11:23 AM > *To:* neonixie-l > *Subject:* Re: [neonixie-l] Re: Anyone want to collaborate on > electroluminescent display projects ? > > > > There are some on Ebay right now (I have no affiliation with the seller). > Do a search for IEL-0. I suggest shopping around for awhile to get the > best price. I'm a bit nervous about the IEL-0-IV displays. After 10 days of > basic testing, my test device has noticeable burning, though I cant confirm > if the luminous output has dropped. I need to build a photometer and do > more testing. Prior to using it, the entire screen was the same color. > > > > > > On Tuesday, April 2, 2024 at 8:46:06 AM UTC-7 Nick Andrews wrote: > > Has anyone seen any of these for sale in the last few years? I'd be > interested in the project if I had some! > > > > On Mon, Apr 1, 2024, 5:24 PM gregebert wrote: > > Right now it looks like there will be 3 different PCB's: One for the HV > power supply, one for a single I-95, and another for 2-4 IEL-0-IV (I havn't > sized the board yet, but it needs to be less than 4" per side). I use a > modular design approach, and everything is connected with a 10-pin > ribbon-cable serial bus I call IOLINK. So if you are willing to adapt your > favorite controller to the IOLINK interface, which uses 12V signalling (2 > inputs, 5 outputs), these boards will be workable for you. > > On Monday, April 1, 2024 at 7:59:59 AM UTC-7 Keith Moore wrote: > > I am interested but not much help with the design. I'd love to use my > displays though. > > On Thursday, March 14, 2024 at 1:43:24 PM UTC-4 gregebert wrote: > > I'm finally at the point I have time to work on a design for my Soviet-era > electroluminescent displays. I have 2 types, the smaller IEL-0-IV, and a > much larger I-195. Both are the 'alien' style formats, and will make > unusual clocks. > > > > I have done some very initial testing on the smaller one, and it appears > to be burning the phosphor after just a few hours of usage. It's not lit > very bright, so I dont know if this is a common burn-in phase, or not. > Documentation is pretty limited, and I've been running a 50-page document > page-by-page thru google translate; so far nothing has come up regarding > burn-in. > > > > If anyone out there is working-on IEL's, or planning-to do so, please > chime in so we can start a discussion here. > > > > -- > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "neonixie-l" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to neonixie-l+...@googlegroups.com. > > To view this discussion on the web, visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/neonixie-l/d07a2249-b58a-4b4b-8769-f04ad827a80bn%40googlegroups.com > <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/neonixie-l/d07a2249-b58a-4b4b-8769-f04ad827a80bn%40googlegroups.com?utm_medium=email_source=footer> > . > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "neonixie-l" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to neonixie-l+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To view this discussion on the web, visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/neonixie-l/f0a44f8d-9c21-4e6d-a0f5-110b07630132n%40googlegroups.com > <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/neonixie-l/f0a44f8d-9c21-4e6d-a0f5-110b07630132n%40googlegroups.com?utm_medium=email_source=footer> > . > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "neonixie-l" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to neonixie-l+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To view this discussion on the web, visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/neonixie-l/SA0PR01MB6170D0E7D11FEAC8EEE8C90F823E2%40SA0PR01MB6170.prod.exchangelabs.com > <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/neonixie-l/SA0PR01MB6170D0E7D11FEAC8EEE8C90F823E2%40SA0PR01MB6170.prod.exchangelabs.com?utm_medium=email_source=footer> > . > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "neonixie-l" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to neonixie-l+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web, visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/neonixie-l/CAJD4P-iFunWaxhLMTd1xSvufZO0FORhTarrjJK9WTdXgEzkuXg%40mail.gmail.com.
Re: [neonixie-l] Large weird round panaplex
Wow. Do you have any more details about these LEDs? On Tue, Apr 16, 2024 at 12:19 PM Neil QQ wrote: > I do recall Krypton-85 as being one component of the gas brew. The KR85 > half-life helps explain why we sold so many replacement displays for seven > to ten year old units. As I recall, the brew included seven gases with two > of those being radioactive. The required light dynamic-range of aviation > displays is demanding. They must be readable in blinding sunlight and > barely lit at night to avoid night blindness. The gas mixture played an > important role in meeting those requirements. The details of the displays > themselves and the techniques for driving them were figured out long before > my time. > > The beginning of the end for the King panaplexes began in the late 90's. > We were down to a single supplier for the proprietary gas mixture. If I > recall correctly, that supplier was Dale Electronics (contemporarily, > Vishay) in Columbus, NE. At some point they informed us they could not > find a carrier to deliver the gas from Columbus, NE to Olathe, KS due to > new, onerous regulations for hazardous material transport. So we, King > Radio, sent in-house trucks to pick up the gas cylinders. > > One of my last great (in my head anyway) acts at King was having my crew > develop a retrofittable LED replacement module. It used bespoke, neon > hued, Nichia LED's. > > On Tuesday, April 16, 2024 at 3:29:36 AM UTC-5 Audrey wrote: > >> Indeed my point in mentioning it. >> >> On Mon, Apr 15, 2024, 6:31 PM n1ist wrote: >> >>> The Kr85 mark indicates that they have (or rather now have just a >>> little, since the half life is 10.7 years) Krypton-85 mixed in the gas to >>> help with the ionization >>> >>> On Monday, April 15, 2024 at 6:09:42 PM UTC-4 Audrey wrote: >>> >>>> That's fascinating Neil, I have a few boring Bendix panaplexes and was >>>> curious about their manufacture. I believe they're marked Kr85. >>>> >>>> On Mon, Apr 15, 2024, 5:47 PM Neil QQ wrote: >>>> >>>>> Until, at least, sometime in the early 2000's 90's King Radio (aka >>>>> Bendix/King) was still selling NAV and COM radios using their own numeric >>>>> panaplex type displays e.g. KX155, KX165. These displays were custom >>>>> designed and fabricated in-house in Olathe, KS. To the best of my >>>>> knowledge they were all neon orange monochrome. The gas used was a >>>>> proprietary witches brew that included several radioactive trace elements. >>>>> I recall seeing a prototype ILS indicator similar to the one referenced in >>>>> this thread. I don't believe the King display was commercialized. >>>>> >>>>> An ILS display shows deviation from the localizer (right-left >>>>> guidance) horizontally and the glideslope deviation (up-down) guidance >>>>> vertically. By "keeping the needles centered" the ILS will guide a pilot >>>>> to the runway threshold. Such displays were also used for VOR navigation >>>>> using only the right-left needles (or lit segments in this case). In the >>>>> simplest case they would provide guidance to the VOR station and identify >>>>> the cardinal radial direction that was being flown to reach the station. >>>>> When executing a simple form of an instrument landing system (ILS) the >>>>> pilot flies, at a particular altitude, along a "to" radial to find a >>>>> particular VOR station. Once directly over the VOR the pilot flies on a >>>>> specified VOR "from" radial until the localizer (right-left) and >>>>> glideslope >>>>> (up-down) needles move into the active range (no longer parked and >>>>> "flagged" at the display extremes). From there the pilot "keeps the >>>>> needles centered" until visual runway confirmation is obtained. >>>>> >>>>> On Saturday, April 13, 2024 at 11:27:41 PM UTC-5 Audrey wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> The seller is the author of this article. >>>>>> https://www.industrialalchemy.org/articleview.php?item=3247 >>>>>> >>>>>> On Fri, Apr 12, 2024 at 11:36 AM Nick Andrews >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Never seen or heard about this one before. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> https://www.ebay.com/itm/276389569367?mkcid=16=1=711-127
Re: [neonixie-l] Large weird round panaplex
I do recall Krypton-85 as being one component of the gas brew. The KR85 half-life helps explain why we sold so many replacement displays for seven to ten year old units. As I recall, the brew included seven gases with two of those being radioactive. The required light dynamic-range of aviation displays is demanding. They must be readable in blinding sunlight and barely lit at night to avoid night blindness. The gas mixture played an important role in meeting those requirements. The details of the displays themselves and the techniques for driving them were figured out long before my time. The beginning of the end for the King panaplexes began in the late 90's. We were down to a single supplier for the proprietary gas mixture. If I recall correctly, that supplier was Dale Electronics (contemporarily, Vishay) in Columbus, NE. At some point they informed us they could not find a carrier to deliver the gas from Columbus, NE to Olathe, KS due to new, onerous regulations for hazardous material transport. So we, King Radio, sent in-house trucks to pick up the gas cylinders. One of my last great (in my head anyway) acts at King was having my crew develop a retrofittable LED replacement module. It used bespoke, neon hued, Nichia LED's. On Tuesday, April 16, 2024 at 3:29:36 AM UTC-5 Audrey wrote: > Indeed my point in mentioning it. > > On Mon, Apr 15, 2024, 6:31 PM n1ist wrote: > >> The Kr85 mark indicates that they have (or rather now have just a little, >> since the half life is 10.7 years) Krypton-85 mixed in the gas to help with >> the ionization >> >> On Monday, April 15, 2024 at 6:09:42 PM UTC-4 Audrey wrote: >> >>> That's fascinating Neil, I have a few boring Bendix panaplexes and was >>> curious about their manufacture. I believe they're marked Kr85. >>> >>> On Mon, Apr 15, 2024, 5:47 PM Neil QQ wrote: >>> >>>> Until, at least, sometime in the early 2000's 90's King Radio (aka >>>> Bendix/King) was still selling NAV and COM radios using their own numeric >>>> panaplex type displays e.g. KX155, KX165. These displays were custom >>>> designed and fabricated in-house in Olathe, KS. To the best of my >>>> knowledge they were all neon orange monochrome. The gas used was a >>>> proprietary witches brew that included several radioactive trace elements. >>>> >>>> I recall seeing a prototype ILS indicator similar to the one referenced in >>>> this thread. I don't believe the King display was commercialized. >>>> >>>> An ILS display shows deviation from the localizer (right-left guidance) >>>> horizontally and the glideslope deviation (up-down) guidance vertically. >>>> By "keeping the needles centered" the ILS will guide a pilot to the runway >>>> threshold. Such displays were also used for VOR navigation using only the >>>> right-left needles (or lit segments in this case). In the simplest case >>>> they would provide guidance to the VOR station and identify the cardinal >>>> radial direction that was being flown to reach the station. When >>>> executing >>>> a simple form of an instrument landing system (ILS) the pilot flies, at a >>>> particular altitude, along a "to" radial to find a particular VOR station. >>>> >>>> Once directly over the VOR the pilot flies on a specified VOR "from" >>>> radial >>>> until the localizer (right-left) and glideslope (up-down) needles move >>>> into >>>> the active range (no longer parked and "flagged" at the display extremes). >>>> >>>> From there the pilot "keeps the needles centered" until visual runway >>>> confirmation is obtained. >>>> >>>> On Saturday, April 13, 2024 at 11:27:41 PM UTC-5 Audrey wrote: >>>> >>>>> The seller is the author of this article. >>>>> https://www.industrialalchemy.org/articleview.php?item=3247 >>>>> >>>>> On Fri, Apr 12, 2024 at 11:36 AM Nick Andrews >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Never seen or heard about this one before. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> https://www.ebay.com/itm/276389569367?mkcid=16=1=711-127632-2357-0=AkFpft62ST6=2047675=9S4jfnnKS4i_ver=artemis=COPY >>>>>> >>>>>> Anyone heard of this or have one? >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> >>>>> You received this message because you are subscri
Re: [neonixie-l] Re: NEW CD46
Maybe. Money laundering... On Tue, Apr 16, 2024 at 7:47 AM Paul Andrews wrote: > And they sold... > > On Monday, April 15, 2024 at 12:50:24 PM UTC-4 Adam Piórko wrote: > >> Miracle or a clash with reality? >> >> new price: EUR 5,000.00 >> >> wtorek, 9 kwietnia 2024 o 00:06:40 UTC+2 liam bartosiewicz napisał(a): >> >>> When the cost of a six digit clock can be measured in Jeff Bezos minutes >>> then there’s probably an issue with the pricing >>> >>> On Apr 8, 2024, at 7:57 AM, Nicholas Stock wrote: >>> >>> Prohibitive is not the word I would use 藍 >>> >>> >>> Aspirational? Crazy? Insane? >>> >>> I know there's some inflation going on but this is ridiculous >>> >>> Nick >>> >>> Sent from my iPhone >>> >>> On Apr 8, 2024, at 07:43, Paul Andrews wrote: >>> >>> !!! >>> >>> On Monday, April 8, 2024 at 10:03:09 AM UTC-4 Adam Piórko wrote: >>> >>>> The price is prohibitive. I wonder when they will sell... >>>> >>>> https://www.ebay.de/itm/296351287168 >>>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>> Groups "neonixie-l" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>> an email to neonixie-l+...@googlegroups.com. >>> To view this discussion on the web, visit >>> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/neonixie-l/645add2e-0488-4c67-91ea-62300191bcddn%40googlegroups.com >>> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/neonixie-l/645add2e-0488-4c67-91ea-62300191bcddn%40googlegroups.com?utm_medium=email_source=footer> >>> . >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>> Groups "neonixie-l" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>> an email to neonixie-l+...@googlegroups.com. >>> >>> To view this discussion on the web, visit >>> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/neonixie-l/C27CA205-C851-4A91-9808-26AB9F786D0C%40gmail.com >>> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/neonixie-l/C27CA205-C851-4A91-9808-26AB9F786D0C%40gmail.com?utm_medium=email_source=footer> >>> . >>> >>> -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "neonixie-l" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to neonixie-l+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To view this discussion on the web, visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/neonixie-l/eac0618b-2e9d-446b-89ee-0113be7a3267n%40googlegroups.com > <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/neonixie-l/eac0618b-2e9d-446b-89ee-0113be7a3267n%40googlegroups.com?utm_medium=email_source=footer> > . > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "neonixie-l" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to neonixie-l+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web, visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/neonixie-l/CAJD4P-j%2Bnq3OzaT2BHDryA-Uy1080zkrwxxHRsRCJ1hUkDkygA%40mail.gmail.com.
Re: [neonixie-l] SP-252 Smart Socket based device
For some pictures see here: http://www.panaplex.co.uk/untitled-page-2023-08-29-045409/ - Richard On Tuesday 16 April 2024 at 14:26:43 UTC+1 Richard Scales wrote: > I have made one of my regular green tint acrylic + copper coloured corners > and screws type of cases. > > I keep trying to post pictures but I just get 'Message has been deleted' > errors ? > > If anyone would like to make one of these then I do have a small number of > kits available with displays - please send me a PM. > > - Richard > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "neonixie-l" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to neonixie-l+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web, visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/neonixie-l/a007df5a-e8d4-407a-bfab-6475da596896n%40googlegroups.com.
Re: [neonixie-l] SP-252 Smart Socket based device
I have made one of my regular green tint acrylic + copper coloured corners and screws type of cases. I keep trying to post pictures but I just get 'Message has been deleted' errors ? If anyone would like to make one of these then I do have a small number of kits available with displays - please send me a PM. - Richard -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "neonixie-l" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to neonixie-l+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web, visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/neonixie-l/105d8b59-bd5c-4ca8-9f53-cda1100a5cfdn%40googlegroups.com.
Re: [neonixie-l] Re: NEW CD46
And they sold... On Monday, April 15, 2024 at 12:50:24 PM UTC-4 Adam Piórko wrote: > Miracle or a clash with reality? > > new price: EUR 5,000.00 > > wtorek, 9 kwietnia 2024 o 00:06:40 UTC+2 liam bartosiewicz napisał(a): > >> When the cost of a six digit clock can be measured in Jeff Bezos minutes >> then there’s probably an issue with the pricing >> >> On Apr 8, 2024, at 7:57 AM, Nicholas Stock wrote: >> >> Prohibitive is not the word I would use 藍 >> >> >> Aspirational? Crazy? Insane? >> >> I know there's some inflation going on but this is ridiculous >> >> Nick >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >> On Apr 8, 2024, at 07:43, Paul Andrews wrote: >> >> !!! >> >> On Monday, April 8, 2024 at 10:03:09 AM UTC-4 Adam Piórko wrote: >> >>> The price is prohibitive. I wonder when they will sell... >>> >>> https://www.ebay.de/itm/296351287168 >>> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "neonixie-l" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to neonixie-l+...@googlegroups.com. >> To view this discussion on the web, visit >> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/neonixie-l/645add2e-0488-4c67-91ea-62300191bcddn%40googlegroups.com >> >> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/neonixie-l/645add2e-0488-4c67-91ea-62300191bcddn%40googlegroups.com?utm_medium=email_source=footer> >> . >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "neonixie-l" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to neonixie-l+...@googlegroups.com. >> >> To view this discussion on the web, visit >> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/neonixie-l/C27CA205-C851-4A91-9808-26AB9F786D0C%40gmail.com >> >> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/neonixie-l/C27CA205-C851-4A91-9808-26AB9F786D0C%40gmail.com?utm_medium=email_source=footer> >> . >> >> -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "neonixie-l" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to neonixie-l+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web, visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/neonixie-l/eac0618b-2e9d-446b-89ee-0113be7a3267n%40googlegroups.com.
Re: [neonixie-l] Re: Hey all I’ve got a few questions about CD-12 nixies
Thanks...You have a nice tube..CD12.if ya need or wanna swap something..Maybe I have something You need, for a project.. IFromPeter Hall insidiousnixies輦Utube On 14 Apr 2024 8:40 pm, Jasper nagle wrote:That’s interesting i wonder if it’s new or not it looks unused, and yeah no problems with the photos I too am looking for some reasonable priced CD11On Sun, 14 Apr 2024 at 8:26 PM, Peter Hall <hallpe...@hotmail.com> wrote:Thx for showing picture... Nothing like my CD-11CD12--looks lik a GN-4... anyhow...Much more desirable ...$$$, very jealous..FromPeter Hall insidiousnixies輦Utube On 14 Apr 2024 8:11 pm, alex nolan <masterscriptmaker...@gmail.com> wrote:Well one just sold in Japan for ~$140 USD: https://page.auctions.yahoo.co.jp/jp/auction/l1131610501On Sunday, April 14, 2024 at 6:18:18 AM UTC-4 insidiousnixies;Utube wrote:When I put in search for cd12--the GR201(CD11) comes up...is that the same tube you haveOn Sunday, April 14, 2024 at 3:38:01 PM UTC+8 Jasper nagle wrote:I’m wondering what is an alright price to buy and sell these tubes nowadays, seeing I don’t think they have inflated quite like those CD-46! But I haven’t seen one for sale for a long time! As well do they make nice 1 digit nixie clocks? Assume with their large size they would but the rarity of them is telling me not to keep it running? Sincerely jasper -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "neonixie-l" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to neonixie-l+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web, visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/neonixie-l/a4af948c-ca0c-4194-ba5d-850675e937a8n%40googlegroups.com. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "neonixie-l" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to neonixie-l+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web, visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/neonixie-l/MEYP282MB4240E2B39256C5699680C5FCA60A2%40MEYP282MB4240.AUSP282.PROD.OUTLOOK.COM. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "neonixie-l" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to neonixie-l+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web, visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/neonixie-l/CAAVQZA%2Bdiec_GAaEZoz%3DfW533iid4v9u-opR0HS0Q8NnJXVqUw%40mail.gmail.com. On 14 Apr 2024 8:40 pm, Jasper nagle wrote:That’s interesting i wonder if it’s new or not it looks unused, and yeah no problems with the photos I too am looking for some reasonable priced CD11On Sun, 14 Apr 2024 at 8:26 PM, Peter Hall <hallpe...@hotmail.com> wrote:Thx for showing picture... Nothing like my CD-11CD12--looks lik a GN-4... anyhow...Much more desirable ...$$$, very jealous..FromPeter Hall insidiousnixies輦Utube On 14 Apr 2024 8:11 pm, alex nolan <masterscriptmaker...@gmail.com> wrote:Well one just sold in Japan for ~$140 USD: https://page.auctions.yahoo.co.jp/jp/auction/l1131610501On Sunday, April 14, 2024 at 6:18:18 AM UTC-4 insidiousnixies;Utube wrote:When I put in search for cd12--the GR201(CD11) comes up...is that the same tube you haveOn Sunday, April 14, 2024 at 3:38:01 PM UTC+8 Jasper nagle wrote:I’m wondering what is an alright price to buy and sell these tubes nowadays, seeing I don’t think they have inflated quite like those CD-46! But I haven’t seen one for sale for a long time! As well do they make nice 1 digit nixie clocks? Assume with their large size they would but the rarity of them is telling me not to keep it running? Sincerely jasper -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "neonixie-l" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to neonixie-l+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web, visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/neonixie-l/a4af948c-ca0c-4194-ba5d-850675e937a8n%40googlegroups.com. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "neonixie-l" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to neonixie-l+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web, visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/neonixie-l/MEYP282MB4240E2B39256C5699680C5FCA60A2%40MEYP282MB4240.AUSP282.PROD.OUTLOOK.COM. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "neonixie-l" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to neonixie-l+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web, visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/neonixie-l/CAAVQZA%2Bdiec_GAaEZoz%3DfW533iid4v9u-opR0HS0Q8NnJXVqUw%40mail.gmail.com. On 14 Apr 2024 8:40 pm, Jasper nagle wrote:
Re: [neonixie-l] Large weird round panaplex
Indeed my point in mentioning it. On Mon, Apr 15, 2024, 6:31 PM n1ist wrote: > The Kr85 mark indicates that they have (or rather now have just a little, > since the half life is 10.7 years) Krypton-85 mixed in the gas to help with > the ionization > > On Monday, April 15, 2024 at 6:09:42 PM UTC-4 Audrey wrote: > >> That's fascinating Neil, I have a few boring Bendix panaplexes and was >> curious about their manufacture. I believe they're marked Kr85. >> >> On Mon, Apr 15, 2024, 5:47 PM Neil QQ wrote: >> >>> Until, at least, sometime in the early 2000's 90's King Radio (aka >>> Bendix/King) was still selling NAV and COM radios using their own numeric >>> panaplex type displays e.g. KX155, KX165. These displays were custom >>> designed and fabricated in-house in Olathe, KS. To the best of my >>> knowledge they were all neon orange monochrome. The gas used was a >>> proprietary witches brew that included several radioactive trace elements. >>> I recall seeing a prototype ILS indicator similar to the one referenced in >>> this thread. I don't believe the King display was commercialized. >>> >>> An ILS display shows deviation from the localizer (right-left guidance) >>> horizontally and the glideslope deviation (up-down) guidance vertically. >>> By "keeping the needles centered" the ILS will guide a pilot to the runway >>> threshold. Such displays were also used for VOR navigation using only the >>> right-left needles (or lit segments in this case). In the simplest case >>> they would provide guidance to the VOR station and identify the cardinal >>> radial direction that was being flown to reach the station. When executing >>> a simple form of an instrument landing system (ILS) the pilot flies, at a >>> particular altitude, along a "to" radial to find a particular VOR station. >>> Once directly over the VOR the pilot flies on a specified VOR "from" radial >>> until the localizer (right-left) and glideslope (up-down) needles move into >>> the active range (no longer parked and "flagged" at the display extremes). >>> From there the pilot "keeps the needles centered" until visual runway >>> confirmation is obtained. >>> >>> On Saturday, April 13, 2024 at 11:27:41 PM UTC-5 Audrey wrote: >>> >>>> The seller is the author of this article. >>>> https://www.industrialalchemy.org/articleview.php?item=3247 >>>> >>>> On Fri, Apr 12, 2024 at 11:36 AM Nick Andrews >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Never seen or heard about this one before. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> https://www.ebay.com/itm/276389569367?mkcid=16=1=711-127632-2357-0=AkFpft62ST6=2047675=9S4jfnnKS4i_ver=artemis=COPY >>>>> >>>>> Anyone heard of this or have one? >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> >>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>> Groups "neonixie-l" group. >>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>>>> an email to neonixie-l+...@googlegroups.com. >>>>> To view this discussion on the web, visit >>>>> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/neonixie-l/CAJD4P-ivW5%3DSwf_3hXWVXdad%3DYzA89swwt%3DP%2BqRK2xEMKJ%2B5Gw%40mail.gmail.com >>>>> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/neonixie-l/CAJD4P-ivW5%3DSwf_3hXWVXdad%3DYzA89swwt%3DP%2BqRK2xEMKJ%2B5Gw%40mail.gmail.com?utm_medium=email_source=footer> >>>>> . >>>>> >>>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>> Groups "neonixie-l" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>> an email to neonixie-l+...@googlegroups.com. >>> >> To view this discussion on the web, visit >>> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/neonixie-l/42ea136c-7ed5-480f-9c29-2ba40025ac3an%40googlegroups.com >>> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/neonixie-l/42ea136c-7ed5-480f-9c29-2ba40025ac3an%40googlegroups.com?utm_medium=email_source=footer> >>> . >>> >> -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "neonixie-l" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to neonixie-l+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To view this discussion on the web, visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/neonixie-l/6e423ef4-db33-49a3-b32e-a10996ee34c9n%40googlegroups.com > <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/neonixie-l/6e423ef4-db33-49a3-b32e-a10996ee34c9n%40googlegroups.com?utm_medium=email_source=footer> > . > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "neonixie-l" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to neonixie-l+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web, visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/neonixie-l/CAPDJQ6Cyii1g2TfQr_53%3D_HO0TWOqdRG%3DGKv1KYQJB2-qRJuvA%40mail.gmail.com.
Re: [neonixie-l] Re: Hey all I’ve got a few questions about CD-12 nixies
Uhm this is the tube here. https://www.swissnixie.com/tubes/CD12/ On Sun, 14 Apr 2024 at 6:18 PM, insidiousnixies;Utube wrote: > When I put in search for cd12--the GR201(CD11) comes up...is that the same > tube you have > On Sunday, April 14, 2024 at 3:38:01 PM UTC+8 Jasper nagle wrote: > >> I’m wondering what is an alright price to buy and sell these tubes >> nowadays, seeing I don’t think they have inflated quite like those CD-46! >> But I haven’t seen one for sale for a long time! >> As well do they make nice 1 digit nixie clocks? Assume with their large >> size they would but the rarity of them is telling me not to keep it >> running? >> >> Sincerely jasper >> > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "neonixie-l" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to neonixie-l+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To view this discussion on the web, visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/neonixie-l/87e3a4f3-86e5-4432-b03a-2ee988987e1dn%40googlegroups.com > <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/neonixie-l/87e3a4f3-86e5-4432-b03a-2ee988987e1dn%40googlegroups.com?utm_medium=email_source=footer> > . > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "neonixie-l" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to neonixie-l+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web, visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/neonixie-l/CAAVQZALA0aj4_zobr4EDaV%2BeJSgpkcHYCHQALBTdgSeCNe9Zqw%40mail.gmail.com.
Re: [neonixie-l] Re: Hey all I’ve got a few questions about CD-12 nixies
I might be confused but gr201 is equivalent too CD-11 not 12? On Sun, 14 Apr 2024 at 4:25 PM, insidiousnixies;Utube wrote: > Hey,it was for you.Got mixed up with not seeing CD12--Same as a GR201 on > ebay..Selling sum contact me.Buying some,you the man that has > them.Sorry..Sunday Bliss > > > On Sunday, April 14, 2024 at 3:38:01 PM UTC+8 Jasper nagle wrote: > >> I’m wondering what is an alright price to buy and sell these tubes >> nowadays, seeing I don’t think they have inflated quite like those CD-46! >> But I haven’t seen one for sale for a long time! >> As well do they make nice 1 digit nixie clocks? Assume with their large >> size they would but the rarity of them is telling me not to keep it >> running? >> >> Sincerely jasper >> > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "neonixie-l" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to neonixie-l+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To view this discussion on the web, visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/neonixie-l/84c1acbc-fdb4-4695-bf58-98cf2674eb17n%40googlegroups.com > <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/neonixie-l/84c1acbc-fdb4-4695-bf58-98cf2674eb17n%40googlegroups.com?utm_medium=email_source=footer> > . > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "neonixie-l" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to neonixie-l+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web, visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/neonixie-l/CAAVQZAKYbx2tmVmGFovRW9Pb-AyVx88q-5-PwYrU0CtjYajU7Q%40mail.gmail.com.
Re: [neonixie-l] Re: Hey all I’ve got a few questions about CD-12 nixies
That’s interesting i wonder if it’s new or not it looks unused, and yeah no problems with the photos I too am looking for some reasonable priced CD11 On Sun, 14 Apr 2024 at 8:26 PM, Peter Hall wrote: > Thx for showing picture... Nothing like my CD-11 > CD12--looks lik a GN-4... anyhow...Much more desirable ...$$$, very > jealous.. > > FromPeter Hall insidiousnixies輦Utube > > On 14 Apr 2024 8:11 pm, alex nolan wrote: > > Well one just sold in Japan for ~$140 USD: > https://page.auctions.yahoo.co.jp/jp/auction/l1131610501 > > On Sunday, April 14, 2024 at 6:18:18 AM UTC-4 insidiousnixies;Utube wrote: > > When I put in search for cd12--the GR201(CD11) comes up...is that the same > tube you have > On Sunday, April 14, 2024 at 3:38:01 PM UTC+8 Jasper nagle wrote: > > I’m wondering what is an alright price to buy and sell these tubes > nowadays, seeing I don’t think they have inflated quite like those CD-46! > But I haven’t seen one for sale for a long time! > As well do they make nice 1 digit nixie clocks? Assume with their large > size they would but the rarity of them is telling me not to keep it > running? > > Sincerely jasper > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "neonixie-l" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to neonixie-l+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To view this discussion on the web, visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/neonixie-l/a4af948c-ca0c-4194-ba5d-850675e937a8n%40googlegroups.com > <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/neonixie-l/a4af948c-ca0c-4194-ba5d-850675e937a8n%40googlegroups.com?utm_medium=email_source=footer> > . > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "neonixie-l" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to neonixie-l+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To view this discussion on the web, visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/neonixie-l/MEYP282MB4240E2B39256C5699680C5FCA60A2%40MEYP282MB4240.AUSP282.PROD.OUTLOOK.COM > <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/neonixie-l/MEYP282MB4240E2B39256C5699680C5FCA60A2%40MEYP282MB4240.AUSP282.PROD.OUTLOOK.COM?utm_medium=email_source=footer> > . > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "neonixie-l" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to neonixie-l+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web, visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/neonixie-l/CAAVQZA%2Bdiec_GAaEZoz%3DfW533iid4v9u-opR0HS0Q8NnJXVqUw%40mail.gmail.com.
Re: [neonixie-l] Large weird round panaplex
The Kr85 mark indicates that they have (or rather now have just a little, since the half life is 10.7 years) Krypton-85 mixed in the gas to help with the ionization On Monday, April 15, 2024 at 6:09:42 PM UTC-4 Audrey wrote: > That's fascinating Neil, I have a few boring Bendix panaplexes and was > curious about their manufacture. I believe they're marked Kr85. > > On Mon, Apr 15, 2024, 5:47 PM Neil QQ wrote: > >> Until, at least, sometime in the early 2000's 90's King Radio (aka >> Bendix/King) was still selling NAV and COM radios using their own numeric >> panaplex type displays e.g. KX155, KX165. These displays were custom >> designed and fabricated in-house in Olathe, KS. To the best of my >> knowledge they were all neon orange monochrome. The gas used was a >> proprietary witches brew that included several radioactive trace elements. >> I recall seeing a prototype ILS indicator similar to the one referenced in >> this thread. I don't believe the King display was commercialized. >> >> An ILS display shows deviation from the localizer (right-left guidance) >> horizontally and the glideslope deviation (up-down) guidance vertically. >> By "keeping the needles centered" the ILS will guide a pilot to the runway >> threshold. Such displays were also used for VOR navigation using only the >> right-left needles (or lit segments in this case). In the simplest case >> they would provide guidance to the VOR station and identify the cardinal >> radial direction that was being flown to reach the station. When executing >> a simple form of an instrument landing system (ILS) the pilot flies, at a >> particular altitude, along a "to" radial to find a particular VOR station. >> Once directly over the VOR the pilot flies on a specified VOR "from" radial >> until the localizer (right-left) and glideslope (up-down) needles move into >> the active range (no longer parked and "flagged" at the display extremes). >> From there the pilot "keeps the needles centered" until visual runway >> confirmation is obtained. >> >> On Saturday, April 13, 2024 at 11:27:41 PM UTC-5 Audrey wrote: >> >>> The seller is the author of this article. >>> https://www.industrialalchemy.org/articleview.php?item=3247 >>> >>> On Fri, Apr 12, 2024 at 11:36 AM Nick Andrews >>> wrote: >>> >>>> Never seen or heard about this one before. >>>> >>>> >>>> https://www.ebay.com/itm/276389569367?mkcid=16=1=711-127632-2357-0=AkFpft62ST6=2047675=9S4jfnnKS4i_ver=artemis=COPY >>>> >>>> Anyone heard of this or have one? >>>> >>>> -- >>>> >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>> Groups "neonixie-l" group. >>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>>> an email to neonixie-l+...@googlegroups.com. >>>> To view this discussion on the web, visit >>>> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/neonixie-l/CAJD4P-ivW5%3DSwf_3hXWVXdad%3DYzA89swwt%3DP%2BqRK2xEMKJ%2B5Gw%40mail.gmail.com >>>> >>>> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/neonixie-l/CAJD4P-ivW5%3DSwf_3hXWVXdad%3DYzA89swwt%3DP%2BqRK2xEMKJ%2B5Gw%40mail.gmail.com?utm_medium=email_source=footer> >>>> . >>>> >>> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "neonixie-l" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to neonixie-l+...@googlegroups.com. >> > To view this discussion on the web, visit >> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/neonixie-l/42ea136c-7ed5-480f-9c29-2ba40025ac3an%40googlegroups.com >> >> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/neonixie-l/42ea136c-7ed5-480f-9c29-2ba40025ac3an%40googlegroups.com?utm_medium=email_source=footer> >> . >> > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "neonixie-l" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to neonixie-l+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web, visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/neonixie-l/6e423ef4-db33-49a3-b32e-a10996ee34c9n%40googlegroups.com.
Re: [neonixie-l] Large weird round panaplex
That's fascinating Neil, I have a few boring Bendix panaplexes and was curious about their manufacture. I believe they're marked Kr85. On Mon, Apr 15, 2024, 5:47 PM Neil QQ wrote: > Until, at least, sometime in the early 2000's 90's King Radio (aka > Bendix/King) was still selling NAV and COM radios using their own numeric > panaplex type displays e.g. KX155, KX165. These displays were custom > designed and fabricated in-house in Olathe, KS. To the best of my > knowledge they were all neon orange monochrome. The gas used was a > proprietary witches brew that included several radioactive trace elements. > I recall seeing a prototype ILS indicator similar to the one referenced in > this thread. I don't believe the King display was commercialized. > > An ILS display shows deviation from the localizer (right-left guidance) > horizontally and the glideslope deviation (up-down) guidance vertically. > By "keeping the needles centered" the ILS will guide a pilot to the runway > threshold. Such displays were also used for VOR navigation using only the > right-left needles (or lit segments in this case). In the simplest case > they would provide guidance to the VOR station and identify the cardinal > radial direction that was being flown to reach the station. When executing > a simple form of an instrument landing system (ILS) the pilot flies, at a > particular altitude, along a "to" radial to find a particular VOR station. > Once directly over the VOR the pilot flies on a specified VOR "from" radial > until the localizer (right-left) and glideslope (up-down) needles move into > the active range (no longer parked and "flagged" at the display extremes). > From there the pilot "keeps the needles centered" until visual runway > confirmation is obtained. > > On Saturday, April 13, 2024 at 11:27:41 PM UTC-5 Audrey wrote: > >> The seller is the author of this article. >> https://www.industrialalchemy.org/articleview.php?item=3247 >> >> On Fri, Apr 12, 2024 at 11:36 AM Nick Andrews >> wrote: >> >>> Never seen or heard about this one before. >>> >>> >>> https://www.ebay.com/itm/276389569367?mkcid=16=1=711-127632-2357-0=AkFpft62ST6=2047675=9S4jfnnKS4i_ver=artemis=COPY >>> >>> Anyone heard of this or have one? >>> >>> -- >>> >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "neonixie-l" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>> an email to neonixie-l+...@googlegroups.com. >>> To view this discussion on the web, visit >>> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/neonixie-l/CAJD4P-ivW5%3DSwf_3hXWVXdad%3DYzA89swwt%3DP%2BqRK2xEMKJ%2B5Gw%40mail.gmail.com >>> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/neonixie-l/CAJD4P-ivW5%3DSwf_3hXWVXdad%3DYzA89swwt%3DP%2BqRK2xEMKJ%2B5Gw%40mail.gmail.com?utm_medium=email_source=footer> >>> . >>> >> -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "neonixie-l" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to neonixie-l+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To view this discussion on the web, visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/neonixie-l/42ea136c-7ed5-480f-9c29-2ba40025ac3an%40googlegroups.com > <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/neonixie-l/42ea136c-7ed5-480f-9c29-2ba40025ac3an%40googlegroups.com?utm_medium=email_source=footer> > . > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "neonixie-l" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to neonixie-l+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web, visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/neonixie-l/CAPDJQ6DBG9ozcPMci-%3DPhnavwiLoC86BwvpRCoQ%2BfgXWLghQXA%40mail.gmail.com.
Re: [neonixie-l] Large weird round panaplex
Until, at least, sometime in the early 2000's 90's King Radio (aka Bendix/King) was still selling NAV and COM radios using their own numeric panaplex type displays e.g. KX155, KX165. These displays were custom designed and fabricated in-house in Olathe, KS. To the best of my knowledge they were all neon orange monochrome. The gas used was a proprietary witches brew that included several radioactive trace elements. I recall seeing a prototype ILS indicator similar to the one referenced in this thread. I don't believe the King display was commercialized. An ILS display shows deviation from the localizer (right-left guidance) horizontally and the glideslope deviation (up-down) guidance vertically. By "keeping the needles centered" the ILS will guide a pilot to the runway threshold. Such displays were also used for VOR navigation using only the right-left needles (or lit segments in this case). In the simplest case they would provide guidance to the VOR station and identify the cardinal radial direction that was being flown to reach the station. When executing a simple form of an instrument landing system (ILS) the pilot flies, at a particular altitude, along a "to" radial to find a particular VOR station. Once directly over the VOR the pilot flies on a specified VOR "from" radial until the localizer (right-left) and glideslope (up-down) needles move into the active range (no longer parked and "flagged" at the display extremes). >From there the pilot "keeps the needles centered" until visual runway confirmation is obtained. On Saturday, April 13, 2024 at 11:27:41 PM UTC-5 Audrey wrote: > The seller is the author of this article. > https://www.industrialalchemy.org/articleview.php?item=3247 > > On Fri, Apr 12, 2024 at 11:36 AM Nick Andrews wrote: > >> Never seen or heard about this one before. >> >> >> https://www.ebay.com/itm/276389569367?mkcid=16=1=711-127632-2357-0=AkFpft62ST6=2047675=9S4jfnnKS4i_ver=artemis=COPY >> >> Anyone heard of this or have one? >> >> -- >> > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "neonixie-l" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to neonixie-l+...@googlegroups.com. >> To view this discussion on the web, visit >> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/neonixie-l/CAJD4P-ivW5%3DSwf_3hXWVXdad%3DYzA89swwt%3DP%2BqRK2xEMKJ%2B5Gw%40mail.gmail.com >> >> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/neonixie-l/CAJD4P-ivW5%3DSwf_3hXWVXdad%3DYzA89swwt%3DP%2BqRK2xEMKJ%2B5Gw%40mail.gmail.com?utm_medium=email_source=footer> >> . >> > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "neonixie-l" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to neonixie-l+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web, visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/neonixie-l/42ea136c-7ed5-480f-9c29-2ba40025ac3an%40googlegroups.com.
Re: [neonixie-l] Re: NEW CD46
Miracle or a clash with reality? new price: EUR 5,000.00 wtorek, 9 kwietnia 2024 o 00:06:40 UTC+2 liam bartosiewicz napisał(a): > When the cost of a six digit clock can be measured in Jeff Bezos minutes > then there’s probably an issue with the pricing > > On Apr 8, 2024, at 7:57 AM, Nicholas Stock wrote: > > Prohibitive is not the word I would use 藍 > > > Aspirational? Crazy? Insane? > > I know there's some inflation going on but this is ridiculous > > Nick > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Apr 8, 2024, at 07:43, Paul Andrews wrote: > > !!! > > On Monday, April 8, 2024 at 10:03:09 AM UTC-4 Adam Piórko wrote: > >> The price is prohibitive. I wonder when they will sell... >> >> https://www.ebay.de/itm/296351287168 >> > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "neonixie-l" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to neonixie-l+...@googlegroups.com. > To view this discussion on the web, visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/neonixie-l/645add2e-0488-4c67-91ea-62300191bcddn%40googlegroups.com > > <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/neonixie-l/645add2e-0488-4c67-91ea-62300191bcddn%40googlegroups.com?utm_medium=email_source=footer> > . > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "neonixie-l" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to neonixie-l+...@googlegroups.com. > > To view this discussion on the web, visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/neonixie-l/C27CA205-C851-4A91-9808-26AB9F786D0C%40gmail.com > > <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/neonixie-l/C27CA205-C851-4A91-9808-26AB9F786D0C%40gmail.com?utm_medium=email_source=footer> > . > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "neonixie-l" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to neonixie-l+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web, visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/neonixie-l/059573f4-fd60-4df0-9599-51666facc947n%40googlegroups.com.
Re: [neonixie-l] Re: Hey all I’ve got a few questions about CD-12 nixies
Thx for showing picture... Nothing like my CD-11CD12--looks lik a GN-4... anyhow...Much more desirable ...$$$, very jealous..FromPeter Hall insidiousnixies輦Utube On 14 Apr 2024 8:11 pm, alex nolan wrote:Well one just sold in Japan for ~$140 USD: https://page.auctions.yahoo.co.jp/jp/auction/l1131610501On Sunday, April 14, 2024 at 6:18:18 AM UTC-4 insidiousnixies;Utube wrote:When I put in search for cd12--the GR201(CD11) comes up...is that the same tube you haveOn Sunday, April 14, 2024 at 3:38:01 PM UTC+8 Jasper nagle wrote:I’m wondering what is an alright price to buy and sell these tubes nowadays, seeing I don’t think they have inflated quite like those CD-46! But I haven’t seen one for sale for a long time! As well do they make nice 1 digit nixie clocks? Assume with their large size they would but the rarity of them is telling me not to keep it running? Sincerely jasper -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "neonixie-l" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to neonixie-l+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web, visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/neonixie-l/a4af948c-ca0c-4194-ba5d-850675e937a8n%40googlegroups.com. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "neonixie-l" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to neonixie-l+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web, visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/neonixie-l/MEYP282MB4240E2B39256C5699680C5FCA60A2%40MEYP282MB4240.AUSP282.PROD.OUTLOOK.COM.
[neonixie-l] Re: Hey all I’ve got a few questions about CD-12 nixies
Well one just sold in Japan for ~$140 USD: https://page.auctions.yahoo.co.jp/jp/auction/l1131610501 On Sunday, April 14, 2024 at 6:18:18 AM UTC-4 insidiousnixies;Utube wrote: > When I put in search for cd12--the GR201(CD11) comes up...is that the same > tube you have > On Sunday, April 14, 2024 at 3:38:01 PM UTC+8 Jasper nagle wrote: > >> I’m wondering what is an alright price to buy and sell these tubes >> nowadays, seeing I don’t think they have inflated quite like those CD-46! >> But I haven’t seen one for sale for a long time! >> As well do they make nice 1 digit nixie clocks? Assume with their large >> size they would but the rarity of them is telling me not to keep it >> running? >> >> Sincerely jasper >> > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "neonixie-l" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to neonixie-l+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web, visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/neonixie-l/a4af948c-ca0c-4194-ba5d-850675e937a8n%40googlegroups.com.
[neonixie-l] Re: Hey all I’ve got a few questions about CD-12 nixies
When I put in search for cd12--the GR201(CD11) comes up...is that the same tube you have On Sunday, April 14, 2024 at 3:38:01 PM UTC+8 Jasper nagle wrote: > I’m wondering what is an alright price to buy and sell these tubes > nowadays, seeing I don’t think they have inflated quite like those CD-46! > But I haven’t seen one for sale for a long time! > As well do they make nice 1 digit nixie clocks? Assume with their large > size they would but the rarity of them is telling me not to keep it > running? > > Sincerely jasper > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "neonixie-l" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to neonixie-l+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web, visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/neonixie-l/87e3a4f3-86e5-4432-b03a-2ee988987e1dn%40googlegroups.com.
[neonixie-l] Re: Hey all I’ve got a few questions about CD-12 nixies
I meant,you know the Man..Post on Neonixie.Eg-Such as these-advertised on Ebay= https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/116125336055?mkcid=16=1=705-154756-20017-0=Fjq_j4eGTu2=2047675=wD1q8GOQTfG_ver=artemis=COPY On Sunday, April 14, 2024 at 3:38:01 PM UTC+8 Jasper nagle wrote: > I’m wondering what is an alright price to buy and sell these tubes > nowadays, seeing I don’t think they have inflated quite like those CD-46! > But I haven’t seen one for sale for a long time! > As well do they make nice 1 digit nixie clocks? Assume with their large > size they would but the rarity of them is telling me not to keep it > running? > > Sincerely jasper > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "neonixie-l" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to neonixie-l+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web, visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/neonixie-l/e1026c18-7316-48ce-91f7-4b87d3b759ban%40googlegroups.com.
[neonixie-l] Re: Hey all I’ve got a few questions about CD-12 nixies
Hey,it was for you.Got mixed up with not seeing CD12--Same as a GR201 on ebay..Selling sum contact me.Buying some,you the man that has them.Sorry..Sunday Bliss On Sunday, April 14, 2024 at 3:38:01 PM UTC+8 Jasper nagle wrote: > I’m wondering what is an alright price to buy and sell these tubes > nowadays, seeing I don’t think they have inflated quite like those CD-46! > But I haven’t seen one for sale for a long time! > As well do they make nice 1 digit nixie clocks? Assume with their large > size they would but the rarity of them is telling me not to keep it > running? > > Sincerely jasper > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "neonixie-l" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to neonixie-l+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web, visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/neonixie-l/84c1acbc-fdb4-4695-bf58-98cf2674eb17n%40googlegroups.com.
Re: [neonixie-l] Hey all I’ve got a few questions about CD-12 nixies
No worries On Sun, 14 Apr 2024 at 4:06 PM, Peter Hall wrote: > Sorry trieing too delete..wrong post.soy > > FromPeter Hall insidiousnixies輦Utube > > On 14 Apr 2024 4:04 pm, Peter Hall wrote: > > I've bought a few over the years..I look at it,this way.If asking > $150-Aussie,$100usa for the in18 Tube...the CD's ones,being sold lately and > on ebay now.Cost $133-Aussie,$68-usa..And have a Socket in box$50usa be > a bargain, I'll have 10 please.lol. > > FromPeter Hall insidiousnixies輦Utube > > On 14 Apr 2024 3:37 pm, Jasper nagle wrote: > > I’m wondering what is an alright price to buy and sell these tubes > nowadays, seeing I don’t think they have inflated quite like those CD-46! > But I haven’t seen one for sale for a long time! > As well do they make nice 1 digit nixie clocks? Assume with their large > size they would but the rarity of them is telling me not to keep it > running? > > Sincerely jasper > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "neonixie-l" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to neonixie-l+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To view this discussion on the web, visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/neonixie-l/CAAVQZAJSqZUcUZQiqvM7AL%3DfyOH8Tj9hrwK7WMGpG833%2Bsz9tQ%40mail.gmail.com > <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/neonixie-l/CAAVQZAJSqZUcUZQiqvM7AL%3DfyOH8Tj9hrwK7WMGpG833%2Bsz9tQ%40mail.gmail.com?utm_medium=email_source=footer> > . > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "neonixie-l" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to neonixie-l+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To view this discussion on the web, visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/neonixie-l/MEYP282MB42403D4B43C0ABCED98693EAA60A2%40MEYP282MB4240.AUSP282.PROD.OUTLOOK.COM > <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/neonixie-l/MEYP282MB42403D4B43C0ABCED98693EAA60A2%40MEYP282MB4240.AUSP282.PROD.OUTLOOK.COM?utm_medium=email_source=footer> > . > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "neonixie-l" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to neonixie-l+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To view this discussion on the web, visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/neonixie-l/MEYP282MB424043C482F24B65E78BEE91A60A2%40MEYP282MB4240.AUSP282.PROD.OUTLOOK.COM > <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/neonixie-l/MEYP282MB424043C482F24B65E78BEE91A60A2%40MEYP282MB4240.AUSP282.PROD.OUTLOOK.COM?utm_medium=email_source=footer> > . > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "neonixie-l" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to neonixie-l+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web, visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/neonixie-l/CAAVQZA%2BbWcW%2BpgQ9uepxVN%2BqD9qDgbHWCA8SqH%3DxaD-doujLfg%40mail.gmail.com.
Re: [neonixie-l] Hey all I’ve got a few questions about CD-12 nixies
Sorry trieing too delete..wrong post.soyFromPeter Hall insidiousnixies輦Utube On 14 Apr 2024 4:04 pm, Peter Hall wrote:I've bought a few over the years..I look at it,this way.If asking $150-Aussie,$100usa for the in18 Tube...the CD's ones,being sold lately and on ebay now.Cost $133-Aussie,$68-usa..And have a Socket in box$50usa be a bargain, I'll have 10 please.lol.FromPeter Hall insidiousnixies輦Utube On 14 Apr 2024 3:37 pm, Jasper nagle wrote:I’m wondering what is an alright price to buy and sell these tubes nowadays, seeing I don’t think they have inflated quite like those CD-46! But I haven’t seen one for sale for a long time! As well do they make nice 1 digit nixie clocks? Assume with their large size they would but the rarity of them is telling me not to keep it running? Sincerely jasper -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "neonixie-l" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to neonixie-l+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web, visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/neonixie-l/CAAVQZAJSqZUcUZQiqvM7AL%3DfyOH8Tj9hrwK7WMGpG833%2Bsz9tQ%40mail.gmail.com. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "neonixie-l" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to neonixie-l+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web, visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/neonixie-l/MEYP282MB42403D4B43C0ABCED98693EAA60A2%40MEYP282MB4240.AUSP282.PROD.OUTLOOK.COM. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "neonixie-l" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to neonixie-l+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web, visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/neonixie-l/MEYP282MB424043C482F24B65E78BEE91A60A2%40MEYP282MB4240.AUSP282.PROD.OUTLOOK.COM.
Re: [neonixie-l] Hey all I’ve got a few questions about CD-12 nixies
I've bought a few over the years..I look at it,this way.If asking $150-Aussie,$100usa for the in18 Tube...the CD's ones,being sold lately and on ebay now.Cost $133-Aussie,$68-usa..And have a Socket in box$50usa be a bargain, I'll have 10 please.lol.FromPeter Hall insidiousnixies輦Utube On 14 Apr 2024 3:37 pm, Jasper nagle wrote:I’m wondering what is an alright price to buy and sell these tubes nowadays, seeing I don’t think they have inflated quite like those CD-46! But I haven’t seen one for sale for a long time! As well do they make nice 1 digit nixie clocks? Assume with their large size they would but the rarity of them is telling me not to keep it running? Sincerely jasper -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "neonixie-l" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to neonixie-l+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web, visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/neonixie-l/CAAVQZAJSqZUcUZQiqvM7AL%3DfyOH8Tj9hrwK7WMGpG833%2Bsz9tQ%40mail.gmail.com. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "neonixie-l" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to neonixie-l+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web, visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/neonixie-l/MEYP282MB42403D4B43C0ABCED98693EAA60A2%40MEYP282MB4240.AUSP282.PROD.OUTLOOK.COM.
[neonixie-l] Hey all I’ve got a few questions about CD-12 nixies
I’m wondering what is an alright price to buy and sell these tubes nowadays, seeing I don’t think they have inflated quite like those CD-46! But I haven’t seen one for sale for a long time! As well do they make nice 1 digit nixie clocks? Assume with their large size they would but the rarity of them is telling me not to keep it running? Sincerely jasper -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "neonixie-l" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to neonixie-l+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web, visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/neonixie-l/CAAVQZAJSqZUcUZQiqvM7AL%3DfyOH8Tj9hrwK7WMGpG833%2Bsz9tQ%40mail.gmail.com.
Re: [neonixie-l] Large weird round panaplex
The seller is the author of this article. https://www.industrialalchemy.org/articleview.php?item=3247 On Fri, Apr 12, 2024 at 11:36 AM Nick Andrews wrote: > Never seen or heard about this one before. > > > https://www.ebay.com/itm/276389569367?mkcid=16=1=711-127632-2357-0=AkFpft62ST6=2047675=9S4jfnnKS4i_ver=artemis=COPY > > Anyone heard of this or have one? > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "neonixie-l" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to neonixie-l+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To view this discussion on the web, visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/neonixie-l/CAJD4P-ivW5%3DSwf_3hXWVXdad%3DYzA89swwt%3DP%2BqRK2xEMKJ%2B5Gw%40mail.gmail.com > <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/neonixie-l/CAJD4P-ivW5%3DSwf_3hXWVXdad%3DYzA89swwt%3DP%2BqRK2xEMKJ%2B5Gw%40mail.gmail.com?utm_medium=email_source=footer> > . > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "neonixie-l" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to neonixie-l+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web, visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/neonixie-l/CAPDJQ6B1M9K63HwRZJCkJDzCBc9B0k-%2BP0CrxVeTEkAvzaYd%2BQ%40mail.gmail.com.
Re: [neonixie-l] Large weird round panaplex
I have one, Don't ask me from where - no longer recall where I got it. It's hiding somewhere in my Deep Stash :) Dan Den fre. 12. apr. 2024 kl. 17.36 skrev Nick Andrews : > Never seen or heard about this one before. > > > https://www.ebay.com/itm/276389569367?mkcid=16=1=711-127632-2357-0=AkFpft62ST6=2047675=9S4jfnnKS4i_ver=artemis=COPY > > Anyone heard of this or have one? > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "neonixie-l" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to neonixie-l+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To view this discussion on the web, visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/neonixie-l/CAJD4P-ivW5%3DSwf_3hXWVXdad%3DYzA89swwt%3DP%2BqRK2xEMKJ%2B5Gw%40mail.gmail.com > <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/neonixie-l/CAJD4P-ivW5%3DSwf_3hXWVXdad%3DYzA89swwt%3DP%2BqRK2xEMKJ%2B5Gw%40mail.gmail.com?utm_medium=email_source=footer> > . > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "neonixie-l" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to neonixie-l+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web, visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/neonixie-l/CAJot61Ut95tDHFDQrCOQZaXrDLOz91QbPfcYLdmaYEq4rjoMqQ%40mail.gmail.com.
Re: [neonixie-l] Re: Large weird round panaplex
I found that one too. Makes sense to me. Would be cool if used in a movie as a directional indicator when following a target, like a tracked vehicle or package, versus the absurd fancy displays they usually come up with. On Fri, Apr 12, 2024 at 10:58 AM n1ist wrote: > According to https://lampes-et-tubes.info/cd/cd167.php?l=e it is for a > VOR/Localizer display for avionics > > > On Friday, April 12, 2024 at 11:36:50 AM UTC-4 Nick Andrews wrote: > >> Never seen or heard about this one before. >> >> >> https://www.ebay.com/itm/276389569367?mkcid=16=1=711-127632-2357-0=AkFpft62ST6=2047675=9S4jfnnKS4i_ver=artemis=COPY >> >> Anyone heard of this or have one? >> > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "neonixie-l" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to neonixie-l+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To view this discussion on the web, visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/neonixie-l/12bea3a7-5d92-4099-8084-2715231eee72n%40googlegroups.com > <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/neonixie-l/12bea3a7-5d92-4099-8084-2715231eee72n%40googlegroups.com?utm_medium=email_source=footer> > . > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "neonixie-l" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to neonixie-l+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web, visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/neonixie-l/CAJD4P-hYWGTmQryd8yuDOGwj6SUn5bw7rvUbvGt6VKAj_dZhqQ%40mail.gmail.com.
[neonixie-l] Re: Large weird round panaplex
According to https://lampes-et-tubes.info/cd/cd167.php?l=e it is for a VOR/Localizer display for avionics On Friday, April 12, 2024 at 11:36:50 AM UTC-4 Nick Andrews wrote: > Never seen or heard about this one before. > > > https://www.ebay.com/itm/276389569367?mkcid=16=1=711-127632-2357-0=AkFpft62ST6=2047675=9S4jfnnKS4i_ver=artemis=COPY > > Anyone heard of this or have one? > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "neonixie-l" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to neonixie-l+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web, visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/neonixie-l/12bea3a7-5d92-4099-8084-2715231eee72n%40googlegroups.com.
[neonixie-l] Large weird round panaplex
Never seen or heard about this one before. https://www.ebay.com/itm/276389569367?mkcid=16=1=711-127632-2357-0=AkFpft62ST6=2047675=9S4jfnnKS4i_ver=artemis=COPY Anyone heard of this or have one? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "neonixie-l" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to neonixie-l+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web, visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/neonixie-l/CAJD4P-ivW5%3DSwf_3hXWVXdad%3DYzA89swwt%3DP%2BqRK2xEMKJ%2B5Gw%40mail.gmail.com.
Re: [neonixie-l] SP-252 Smart Socket based device
If anyone is interested in a kit to build one of these then please send a PM - I am investigating getting the small components on the Smart-Socket pre-fabbed to avoid all that tiny soldering and I have a number of displays on hand. - Richard On Thursday 11 April 2024 at 20:22:19 UTC+1 Nick Andrews wrote: > Well, if you can afford or find the Panaplex units, why not? I have just > a couple salvaged from things. Since I know what they are, so glad they > didn't get thrown away like so many of the old blue calculator/adding > machine display tubes... > > On Wed, Apr 10, 2024 at 12:46 AM Richard Scales > wrote: > >> If there was ever an example of over engineering then this must be it! >> Here we have 14 PCBs, 180 transistors, 360 resistors and 13 processors all >> working together to drive six SP-252 multi segment Panaplex displays using >> the Smart Socket circuit that was designed originally for B-7971 tubes. >> It's taken quite some time to pull this all together, mostly because of >> all the SMD parts and my soldering skills - the resistors are 0603.[image: >> SP-252Pic2.jpg][image: SP-252Pic3.jpg][image: SP-252Pic1.jpg] >> Regardless, the hardware is done, now working on the software to take >> advantage of 12 digits of alpha numeric neon. >> Each display sits on its own PCB. Two Smart socket PCB's plug in to the >> back of the display board - one on top - one underneath - these then plug >> in to the backplane that has the power supplies, sensor and Wemos. >> >> Time is NTP synced, at 30 seconds past each minute it will display (in a >> scrolling or some other transitioning style): >> >> The date - like" WEDNESDAY 10TH APRIL 2024" >> or >> Sensor Data which is temperature, humidity, pressure >> or >> One of 10 pre-defined text sequences >> I plan to add a web gui to allow setting of the timezone and definition >> of the text messages to scroll at some point - Many thanks to Paul Andrews >> for his assistance with that. The thing now sits in a case and looks a lot >> more presentable - I'll get some pictures of that asap. >> - Richard >> >> -- >> > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "neonixie-l" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to neonixie-l+...@googlegroups.com. >> To view this discussion on the web, visit >> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/neonixie-l/ac447d2b-fc58-4a6c-b267-e70893883083n%40googlegroups.com >> >> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/neonixie-l/ac447d2b-fc58-4a6c-b267-e70893883083n%40googlegroups.com?utm_medium=email_source=footer> >> . >> > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "neonixie-l" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to neonixie-l+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web, visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/neonixie-l/05e02f32-5991-416c-857f-9ce8939a2625n%40googlegroups.com.
Re: [neonixie-l] SP-252 Smart Socket based device
Hello Peter and thank you. Yes, well, that HV module is rated at 30mA max - with all segments on that should draw about 36mA (based on an average of 200uA per segment) which is TOO MUCH - so I allowed space on the board for 2 x NCH8300HV or 1 x NCH6300HV. So, theoretically - as it stands it is under powered - in practice - all segments are never illuminated at the same time. Things are not getting hot at the moment. There is a jumper to link the two sides of the clock together in terms of the HV supplies which allows the thing to run from a single NCH8200HV - or a single NCH6300HV. Further measurements are needed to be sure. - Richard On Wednesday 10 April 2024 at 07:05:24 UTC+1 Peter Hall wrote: > Stunning as usual..1 x Omnixie to power it all.Amazing > > FromPeter Hall insidiousnixies輦Utube > > On 10 Apr 2024 1:46 pm, Richard Scales wrote: > > If there was ever an example of over engineering then this must be it! > Here we have 14 PCBs, 180 transistors, 360 resistors and 13 processors all > working together to drive six SP-252 multi segment Panaplex displays using > the Smart Socket circuit that was designed originally for B-7971 tubes. > It's taken quite some time to pull this all together, mostly because of > all the SMD parts and my soldering skills - the resistors are 0603.[image: > SP-252Pic2.jpg][image: SP-252Pic3.jpg][image: SP-252Pic1.jpg] > Regardless, the hardware is done, now working on the software to take > advantage of 12 digits of alpha numeric neon. > Each display sits on its own PCB. Two Smart socket PCB's plug in to the > back of the display board - one on top - one underneath - these then plug > in to the backplane that has the power supplies, sensor and Wemos. > > Time is NTP synced, at 30 seconds past each minute it will display (in a > scrolling or some other transitioning style): > > The date - like" WEDNESDAY 10TH APRIL 2024" > or > Sensor Data which is temperature, humidity, pressure > or > One of 10 pre-defined text sequences > I plan to add a web gui to allow setting of the timezone and definition of > the text messages to scroll at some point - Many thanks to Paul Andrews for > his assistance with that. The thing now sits in a case and looks a lot more > presentable - I'll get some pictures of that asap. > - Richard > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "neonixie-l" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to neonixie-l+...@googlegroups.com. > To view this discussion on the web, visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/neonixie-l/ac447d2b-fc58-4a6c-b267-e70893883083n%40googlegroups.com > > <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/neonixie-l/ac447d2b-fc58-4a6c-b267-e70893883083n%40googlegroups.com?utm_medium=email_source=footer> > . > > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "neonixie-l" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to neonixie-l+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web, visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/neonixie-l/b85c94cf-6131-490e-9f61-d9c6ead34e7fn%40googlegroups.com.
Re: [neonixie-l] The long-awaited MOD-SIX Lumina PCB KITS are now available!
Invoice will be sent today. Thanks Michail On Tuesday, April 9, 2024 at 1:07:40 AM UTC-7 Michail Wilson wrote: > I want 3 “Full” kits. > > > > Michail Wilson > > 206-920-6312 <(206)%20920-6312> > > > > *From:* neoni...@googlegroups.com *On Behalf > Of *MichaelB > *Sent:* Saturday, April 6, 2024 3:11 PM > *To:* neonixie-l > *Subject:* [neonixie-l] The long-awaited MOD-SIX Lumina PCB KITS are now > available! > > > > Board Kits are designed for the GEN V Ziggurat, but will fit past > slab-type MOD-SIX clocks as well > > > > Go here for pricing and availability: > > > > http://badnixie.com/Badnixie.com_Welcome.html > > > > Please email me if you're interested. Email listed at the bottom of the > web page > > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "neonixie-l" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to neonixie-l+...@googlegroups.com. > To view this discussion on the web, visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/neonixie-l/deeedcee-47f8-462c-b68b-228c7c8f0a4dn%40googlegroups.com > > <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/neonixie-l/deeedcee-47f8-462c-b68b-228c7c8f0a4dn%40googlegroups.com?utm_medium=email_source=footer> > . > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "neonixie-l" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to neonixie-l+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web, visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/neonixie-l/e0971043-50bb-4452-8d93-35d719bff3e5n%40googlegroups.com.
Re: [neonixie-l] SP-252 Smart Socket based device
Excellent work, I want one!RobOn 10 Apr 2024, at 07:05, Peter Hall wrote:Stunning as usual..1 x Omnixie to power it all.AmazingFromPeter Hall insidiousnixies輦Utube On 10 Apr 2024 1:46 pm, Richard Scales wrote:If there was ever an example of over engineering then this must be it! Here we have 14 PCBs, 180 transistors, 360 resistors and 13 processors all working together to drive six SP-252 multi segment Panaplex displays using the Smart Socket circuit that was designed originally for B-7971 tubes. It's taken quite some time to pull this all together, mostly because of all the SMD parts and my soldering skills - the resistors are 0603. Regardless, the hardware is done, now working on the software to take advantage of 12 digits of alpha numeric neon. Each display sits on its own PCB. Two Smart socket PCB's plug in to the back of the display board - one on top - one underneath - these then plug in to the backplane that has the power supplies, sensor and Wemos.Time is NTP synced, at 30 seconds past each minute it will display (in a scrolling or some other transitioning style):The date - like" WEDNESDAY 10TH APRIL 2024"orSensor Data which is temperature, humidity, pressureorOne of 10 pre-defined text sequences I plan to add a web gui to allow setting of the timezone and definition of the text messages to scroll at some point - Many thanks to Paul Andrews for his assistance with that. The thing now sits in a case and looks a lot more presentable - I'll get some pictures of that asap. - Richard -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "neonixie-l" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to neonixie-l+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web, visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/neonixie-l/ac447d2b-fc58-4a6c-b267-e70893883083n%40googlegroups.com. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "neonixie-l" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to neonixie-l+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web, visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/neonixie-l/MEYP282MB4240913657069D20CFB412E3A6062%40MEYP282MB4240.AUSP282.PROD.OUTLOOK.COM. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "neonixie-l" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to neonixie-l+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web, visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/neonixie-l/3C7CDA16-F9ED-427C-BD46-5087ABB5620E%40gmail.com.
Re: [neonixie-l] Re: Anyone want to collaborate on electroluminescent display projects ?
.. but if needed - I have a small stash of those - I note that they are no longer available from Adafuit. - Richard On Friday 5 April 2024 at 08:56:33 UTC+1 Paul Andrew Lafranchise wrote: > Opto-triacs seemed to work fine for my segment driver setup (which I think > is essentially the same as Richard's). I would also be interested in the > details of the power supply you put together. The Adafruit "blue" EL > power supply <https://www.arrow.com/en/products/448/adafruit-industries> > I used is essentially a black (blue? :-)) box and I'd love to replace it > with something I understand better and have built myself. > > On Mon, Apr 1, 2024 at 9:08 PM Richard Scales > wrote: > >> I have a board which drives the displays just fine, opt triacs which I >> drive from a PIC using the B-7971 Smart Socket code (slightly modified) and >> i have had great success using the 'blue' EL power supply from Adafruit (I >> think that's where they came from - I bought a bag of them). >> >> For the sake of doing it right I would be interested in some of your HV >> EL power supplies - I am broadly assuming that the will perform better than >> what I have used so far. >> - Richard >> >> On Monday 1 April 2024 at 23:24:17 UTC+1 gregebert wrote: >> >>> Right now it looks like there will be 3 different PCB's: One for the HV >>> power supply, one for a single I-95, and another for 2-4 IEL-0-IV (I havn't >>> sized the board yet, but it needs to be less than 4" per side). I use a >>> modular design approach, and everything is connected with a 10-pin >>> ribbon-cable serial bus I call IOLINK. So if you are willing to adapt your >>> favorite controller to the IOLINK interface, which uses 12V signalling (2 >>> inputs, 5 outputs), these boards will be workable for you. >>> >>> On Monday, April 1, 2024 at 7:59:59 AM UTC-7 Keith Moore wrote: >>> >>>> I am interested but not much help with the design. I'd love to use my >>>> displays though. >>>> >>>> On Thursday, March 14, 2024 at 1:43:24 PM UTC-4 gregebert wrote: >>>> >>>>> I'm finally at the point I have time to work on a design for my >>>>> Soviet-era electroluminescent displays. I have 2 types, the smaller >>>>> IEL-0-IV, and a much larger I-195. Both are the 'alien' style formats, >>>>> and >>>>> will make unusual clocks. >>>>> >>>>> I have done some very initial testing on the smaller one, and it >>>>> appears to be burning the phosphor after just a few hours of usage. It's >>>>> not lit very bright, so I dont know if this is a common burn-in phase, or >>>>> not. Documentation is pretty limited, and I've been running a 50-page >>>>> document page-by-page thru google translate; so far nothing has come up >>>>> regarding burn-in. >>>>> >>>>> If anyone out there is working-on IEL's, or planning-to do so, please >>>>> chime in so we can start a discussion here. >>>>> >>>>> [image: electrolum.jpg] >>>>> >>>> -- >> > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "neonixie-l" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to neonixie-l+...@googlegroups.com. >> > To view this discussion on the web, visit >> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/neonixie-l/c874d288-338e-43cc-9748-2d99aea71e59n%40googlegroups.com >> >> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/neonixie-l/c874d288-338e-43cc-9748-2d99aea71e59n%40googlegroups.com?utm_medium=email_source=footer> >> . >> > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "neonixie-l" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to neonixie-l+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web, visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/neonixie-l/496ee24a-a9b5-4c79-9520-a05ca7449015n%40googlegroups.com.
[neonixie-l] Good price on tiny 17s!
Not my listing, but for those of us who build wee clocks using the reliable 1N17s https://www.ebay.com/itm/186379459982?mkcid=16=1=711-127632-2357-0=91sADpveRzC=2047675=PHyjOWfuSxi_ver=artemis=COPY -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "neonixie-l" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to neonixie-l+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web, visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/neonixie-l/f11a0275-7019-4e87-ae35-2fdb047af80an%40googlegroups.com.
Re: [neonixie-l] More High Prices
> On Apr 11, 2024, at 3:57 PM, Nick Andrews wrote: > > I'm seeing it at $38.62 which still seems high to me for one... The shipping from France is $43.47. Way overpriced. Magic Eyes are surprisingly expensive. 6E5s are common as dirt yet they seem to be semi-rare collectors' items: https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_from=R40&_nkw=6e5+magic+eye&_sacat=0=nc_PrefLoc=2 <https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_from=R40&_nkw=6e5+magic+eye&_sacat=0=nc_PrefLoc=2> I especially like the used ones with 75% brightness. As if that's going to last a long time. And the EM334 is NOT a substitute despite what it says in many of the descriptions. Nor is the Soviet 6E5S. Terry Bowman, KA4HJH "The Mac Doctor" https://www.astarcloseup.com "Would you like to see the relevant data?"—343 Guilty Spark, Halo 2 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "neonixie-l" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to neonixie-l+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web, visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/neonixie-l/DC4FE211-92CB-4B11-B4DB-719CF9410DAE%40gmail.com.
Re: [neonixie-l] More High Prices
I'm seeing it at $38.62 which still seems high to me for one... On Wed, Apr 10, 2024 at 12:33 PM Mac Doktor wrote: > https://www.ebay.com/itm/335341009588 > > > Is it just me or is $140 pretty steep for a common (and untested) EM84 > magic eye tube? > > The whole thing strikes me as weird. The description is...creative. He has > 16,528 items and most of them are the same price regardless of what they > are. Something just doesn't add up. > > > Terry Bowman, KA4HJH > "The Mac Doctor" > > https://www.astarcloseup.com > > Detective Gregory: “Is there any other point to which you would wish to > draw my attention?” > Sherlock Holmes: “To the curious incident of the dog in the night-time.” > Gregory: “The dog did nothing in the night-time.” > Holmes: “That was the curious incident.” — "Silver Blaze", Sir Arthur > Conan-Doyle > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "neonixie-l" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to neonixie-l+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To view this discussion on the web, visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/neonixie-l/6111F525-7774-4FA2-A04C-C2D8375AC835%40gmail.com > <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/neonixie-l/6111F525-7774-4FA2-A04C-C2D8375AC835%40gmail.com?utm_medium=email_source=footer> > . > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "neonixie-l" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to neonixie-l+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web, visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/neonixie-l/CAJD4P-gJux57_y81nwQAGLh4jY1R-uv4o5DPyPUUcGCMDNeP9w%40mail.gmail.com.
Re: [neonixie-l] Re: EleksTubeIPS replacement firmware
I don't think so. They locked the firmware after v1 so that it can no longer be updated. On Thursday, April 11, 2024 at 5:10:21 AM UTC-4 Alan Tan wrote: > Will this firmware work with the PR1 from Elekstube? > > On Fri, Mar 8, 2024 at 2:35 AM Paul Andrews wrote: > >> Anyone interested in trying out a version that connects to MQTT/Home >> Assistant (so you can connect a moment and luminance sensor)? >> >> On Wednesday, February 28, 2024 at 11:06:53 PM UTC-5 Paul Andrews wrote: >> >>> Do you mean Millclock? I wasn’t aware Dalibor made a temperature Nixie >>> tube. In fact that the moment I don’t see any Nixie tubes for sale on his >>> site. Just clocks. >>> >>> On Feb 28, 2024, at 9:55 PM, Mac Doktor wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> On Feb 28, 2024, at 9:46 PM, gregebert wrote: >>> >>> Crypto prices should be easy to displayisn't that just a random >>> number ?? ;-] >>> >>> >>> I wish that Daibor had included a "K" in the temperature unit tube. >>> >>> >>> Terry Bowman, KA4HJH >>> "The Mac Doctor" >>> >>> https://www.astarcloseup.com >>> >>> "Words fail me. What is a doctorate in homeopathic medicine? A >>> blank piece of paper taped to your wall?"—PZ Myers >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to a topic in the >>> Google Groups "neonixie-l" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this topic, visit >>> https://groups.google.com/d/topic/neonixie-l/3YbJj3jF-qQ/unsubscribe. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and all its topics, send an email to >>> neonixie-l+...@googlegroups.com. >>> >>> To view this discussion on the web, visit >>> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/neonixie-l/113AEBBA-75DA-4CAC-9F5B-301324C23A7C%40gmail.com >>> >>> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/neonixie-l/113AEBBA-75DA-4CAC-9F5B-301324C23A7C%40gmail.com?utm_medium=email_source=footer> >>> . >>> >>> -- >> > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "neonixie-l" group. >> > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to neonixie-l+...@googlegroups.com. >> To view this discussion on the web, visit >> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/neonixie-l/0aef5181-f01a-4380-90e9-995315758bfen%40googlegroups.com >> >> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/neonixie-l/0aef5181-f01a-4380-90e9-995315758bfen%40googlegroups.com?utm_medium=email_source=footer> >> . >> > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "neonixie-l" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to neonixie-l+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web, visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/neonixie-l/c4680911-41ed-4160-b7ea-505366710396n%40googlegroups.com.
Re: [neonixie-l] Re: EleksTubeIPS replacement firmware
Will this firmware work with the PR1 from Elekstube? On Fri, Mar 8, 2024 at 2:35 AM Paul Andrews wrote: > Anyone interested in trying out a version that connects to MQTT/Home > Assistant (so you can connect a moment and luminance sensor)? > > On Wednesday, February 28, 2024 at 11:06:53 PM UTC-5 Paul Andrews wrote: > >> Do you mean Millclock? I wasn’t aware Dalibor made a temperature Nixie >> tube. In fact that the moment I don’t see any Nixie tubes for sale on his >> site. Just clocks. >> >> On Feb 28, 2024, at 9:55 PM, Mac Doktor wrote: >> >> >> >> >> On Feb 28, 2024, at 9:46 PM, gregebert wrote: >> >> Crypto prices should be easy to displayisn't that just a random >> number ?? ;-] >> >> >> I wish that Daibor had included a "K" in the temperature unit tube. >> >> >> Terry Bowman, KA4HJH >> "The Mac Doctor" >> >> https://www.astarcloseup.com >> >> "Words fail me. What is a doctorate in homeopathic medicine? A >> blank piece of paper taped to your wall?"—PZ Myers >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to a topic in the >> Google Groups "neonixie-l" group. >> To unsubscribe from this topic, visit >> https://groups.google.com/d/topic/neonixie-l/3YbJj3jF-qQ/unsubscribe. >> To unsubscribe from this group and all its topics, send an email to >> neonixie-l+...@googlegroups.com. >> >> To view this discussion on the web, visit >> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/neonixie-l/113AEBBA-75DA-4CAC-9F5B-301324C23A7C%40gmail.com >> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/neonixie-l/113AEBBA-75DA-4CAC-9F5B-301324C23A7C%40gmail.com?utm_medium=email_source=footer> >> . >> >> -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "neonixie-l" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to neonixie-l+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To view this discussion on the web, visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/neonixie-l/0aef5181-f01a-4380-90e9-995315758bfen%40googlegroups.com > <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/neonixie-l/0aef5181-f01a-4380-90e9-995315758bfen%40googlegroups.com?utm_medium=email_source=footer> > . > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "neonixie-l" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to neonixie-l+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web, visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/neonixie-l/CAHYdSUEYwvMYtSipMBW09n0pNPRtjPBhGgcxGtOktXEc%3DaHcDA%40mail.gmail.com.
[neonixie-l] Re: More High Prices
Well, if people pay $50,000 for a digital image (fancifully called an NFT) from Bored Ape Yacht Club, I suppose anything is possible. At least with the tube you actually get something tangible. On Wednesday, April 10, 2024 at 10:33:52 AM UTC-7 Mac Doktor wrote: > https://www.ebay.com/itm/335341009588 > > > Is it just me or is $140 pretty steep for a common (and untested) EM84 > magic eye tube? > > The whole thing strikes me as weird. The description is...creative. He has > 16,528 items and most of them are the same price regardless of what they > are. Something just doesn't add up. > > > Terry Bowman, KA4HJH > "The Mac Doctor" > > https://www.astarcloseup.com > > Detective Gregory: “Is there any other point to which you would wish to > draw my attention?” > Sherlock Holmes: “To the curious incident of the dog in the night-time.” > Gregory: “The dog did nothing in the night-time.” > Holmes: “That was the curious incident.” — "Silver Blaze", Sir Arthur > Conan-Doyle > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "neonixie-l" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to neonixie-l+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web, visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/neonixie-l/39ec509b-16de-4a08-935c-d454e5382c7dn%40googlegroups.com.
[neonixie-l] More High Prices
https://www.ebay.com/itm/335341009588 <https://www.ebay.com/itm/335341009588> Is it just me or is $140 pretty steep for a common (and untested) EM84 magic eye tube? The whole thing strikes me as weird. The description is...creative. He has 16,528 items and most of them are the same price regardless of what they are. Something just doesn't add up. Terry Bowman, KA4HJH "The Mac Doctor" https://www.astarcloseup.com Detective Gregory: “Is there any other point to which you would wish to draw my attention?” Sherlock Holmes: “To the curious incident of the dog in the night-time.” Gregory: “The dog did nothing in the night-time.” Holmes: “That was the curious incident.” — "Silver Blaze", Sir Arthur Conan-Doyle -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "neonixie-l" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to neonixie-l+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web, visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/neonixie-l/6111F525-7774-4FA2-A04C-C2D8375AC835%40gmail.com.
Re: [neonixie-l] SP-252 Smart Socket based device
Stunning as usual..1 x Omnixie to power it all.AmazingFromPeter Hall insidiousnixies輦Utube On 10 Apr 2024 1:46 pm, Richard Scales wrote:If there was ever an example of over engineering then this must be it! Here we have 14 PCBs, 180 transistors, 360 resistors and 13 processors all working together to drive six SP-252 multi segment Panaplex displays using the Smart Socket circuit that was designed originally for B-7971 tubes. It's taken quite some time to pull this all together, mostly because of all the SMD parts and my soldering skills - the resistors are 0603. Regardless, the hardware is done, now working on the software to take advantage of 12 digits of alpha numeric neon. Each display sits on its own PCB. Two Smart socket PCB's plug in to the back of the display board - one on top - one underneath - these then plug in to the backplane that has the power supplies, sensor and Wemos.Time is NTP synced, at 30 seconds past each minute it will display (in a scrolling or some other transitioning style):The date - like" WEDNESDAY 10TH APRIL 2024"orSensor Data which is temperature, humidity, pressureorOne of 10 pre-defined text sequences I plan to add a web gui to allow setting of the timezone and definition of the text messages to scroll at some point - Many thanks to Paul Andrews for his assistance with that. The thing now sits in a case and looks a lot more presentable - I'll get some pictures of that asap. - Richard -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "neonixie-l" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to neonixie-l+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web, visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/neonixie-l/ac447d2b-fc58-4a6c-b267-e70893883083n%40googlegroups.com. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "neonixie-l" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to neonixie-l+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web, visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/neonixie-l/MEYP282MB4240913657069D20CFB412E3A6062%40MEYP282MB4240.AUSP282.PROD.OUTLOOK.COM.
Re: [neonixie-l] Re: Google Pending Messages
Good question. No, there is no rhyme or reason to it. Recent posts that have been sent to Pending look completely, shall I say, bland. They are on topic, nothing controversial, nothing that you could construe as advertising or in anyway naughty. Dunno. But the glorification of modern LEDs is something that your could expect a stern response from the Moderators on On 09/04/2024 16:43, gregebert wrote: Any clues to why some messages get flagged as pending, and others don't ? This isn't the kind of group that gets into controversial or offensive topics, unless perhaps you attempt to glorify modern LEDs. On Tuesday, April 9, 2024 at 1:12:07 AM UTC-7 Grahame Marsh wrote: Hi Y'all Please be aware that the Google Group system is sending more messages than it has done recently into Pending instead of straight through. It can be 3 or 4 days before the Moderators are notified that there are Pending messages so some of your posts might not appear very quickly. Grahame Moderator -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "neonixie-l" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to neonixie-l+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web, visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/neonixie-l/f776af30-95d3-45ff-8947-03834f5d0628n%40googlegroups.com <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/neonixie-l/f776af30-95d3-45ff-8947-03834f5d0628n%40googlegroups.com?utm_medium=email_source=footer>. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "neonixie-l" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to neonixie-l+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web, visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/neonixie-l/85d33e40-64e4-4d6b-97dd-f479084758f4%40googlemail.com.
