Re: [NetBehaviour] Learn To Code

2012-01-11 Thread Rob Myers
On 11/01/12 15:14, James Morris wrote: > > I used to write C++ also, but after reading some anti C++ propaganda > [ http://yosefk.com/c++fqa/defective.html ] I concluded it wasn't just > me being thick but in fact the language is a (vast) nightmare as well. C++ is a horrible, horrible language. I

Re: [NetBehaviour] Learn To Code

2012-01-11 Thread James Morris
In an email I can't find there was a link which took me to a web page I can't remember where there was a link which took me to http://learnpythonthehardway.org/ But I don't really feel like learning Python, but as it happens, that book has been 'ported' to other languages too: http://learncodeth

Re: [NetBehaviour] Learn To Code

2012-01-09 Thread Rob Myers
On 07/01/12 02:58, Joel Weishaus wrote: > Can you give the link again? http://codeyear.com/ http://www.codecademy.com/ - Rob. ___ NetBehaviour mailing list NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour

Re: [NetBehaviour] Learn To Code

2012-01-09 Thread James Wallbank
Let's face it, most people do not own a programmable computer. They own a programmed computer. Even considering locked platforms which bar you from getting root access, the major barrier to people programming is not technology, it's knowledge. I suggest that at least getting a hands-on sense o

Re: [NetBehaviour] Learn To Code

2012-01-08 Thread Rob Myers
On 07/01/12 18:22, dave miller wrote: > "Wish you could learn to code by playing the violin or by singing" > > or by washing up (I do a lot of it!) http://primerlabs.com/codehero [Warning: proprietary software] I still want to do Art Hero, complete with four-colour palette and motion-capture br

Re: [NetBehaviour] Learn To Code

2012-01-08 Thread Mark Hancock
The only time I've ever made a living from code is when I taught it to students at college. I've never been paid to write anything other than some HTML and CSS (I'm never sure if that counts as code in a programming context?) But, I do enjoy code in the way that you can only enjoy something beca

Re: [NetBehaviour] Learn To Code

2012-01-07 Thread Geert Dekkers
You are not the only ones thinking about learning to code :) http://developers.slashdot.org/story/12/01/07/1935227/nyc-mayor-bloomberg-vows-to-learn-to-code-in-2012?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+Slashdot%2Fslashdot+%28Slashdot%29 Geert On 8/01/2012, at 12:44 AM, James

Re: [NetBehaviour] Learn To Code

2012-01-07 Thread Pall Thayer
I'd like to point out an interesting online book for those who want to delve into javascript as a beginner language. I've used this in teaching and the students like it for various reasons. One of the reasons I chose it for teaching is that, unlike most programming books, it doesn't assume that you

Re: [NetBehaviour] Learn To Code

2012-01-07 Thread James Morris
I'm one of the naive ones. But the naivity kept me producing (both code and other creative stuff) for a good few years. Having the desire to complete ever more ambitious goals also helps. As does zero social life ;-) > ... I wonder where exactly the divide between 'leisure/fun' > and 'work/labou

Re: [NetBehaviour] Learn To Code

2012-01-07 Thread kiilo
Hi, i like to jump into the discourse with a small reader maybe worth to read: * http://networkcultures.org/wpmu/portal/publications/network-notebooks/technobohemians-or-the-new-cybertariat/ (there is a free PDF download) QUOTE "*about the publication*: Accounts of new media working conditions dr

Re: [NetBehaviour] Learn To Code

2012-01-07 Thread dave miller
"Wish you could learn to code by playing the violin or by singing" or by washing up (I do a lot of it!) dave On 7 January 2012 18:03, ruth catlow wrote: > On 07/01/2012 17:29, Pall Thayer wrote: >> I will also be happy to answer any coding questions that these new >> recruits may post to the li

Re: [NetBehaviour] Learn To Code

2012-01-07 Thread ruth catlow
On 07/01/2012 17:29, Pall Thayer wrote: > I will also be happy to answer any coding questions that these new > recruits may post to the list. Well thanks Pall! I just had my first hour's lesson. And it made my brain feel old. And reminded me that my slapdash nature caused me trouble last time I m

Re: [NetBehaviour] Learn To Code

2012-01-07 Thread Rob Myers
On 07/01/12 17:27, IR3ABF wrote: > > I could afford maintaining my wife and childrens life by working as a > 'code monkey'. Well that's what I do. :-) My response was mainly to the idea that there is no reason to learn a skill if one cannot practice it exclusively as a career. > What remains t

Re: [NetBehaviour] Learn To Code

2012-01-07 Thread Simon Biggs
Processing is a great introduction to programming and allows you to build complex projects as both stand alone applications and browser based apps. From there it is no great leap to start working with C++ in an environment like Cinder. That said, Python is great. Best. Simon Sent from mobile S

Re: [NetBehaviour] Learn To Code

2012-01-07 Thread Pall Thayer
I will also be happy to answer any coding questions that these new recruits may post to the list. I agree with Rob that learning some coding will help people gain more control over their use of technology. That being said, JavaScript isn't really going to get people far with this goal in mind. It

Re: [NetBehaviour] Learn To Code

2012-01-07 Thread IR3ABF
I don't know Rob, I could afford maintaining my wife and childrens life by working as a 'code monkey'. As an outcome of the crisis in the 80ties, the Dutch government issued a program to train jobless academics (including me) by cooperating with the demands of the cooperative forces and a h

Re: [NetBehaviour] Learn To Code

2012-01-07 Thread Rob Myers
On 07/01/12 15:18, Andreas Maria Jacobs wrote: > > Where and how are software skills degraded from a professional craft > to a hobby 'free' time occupation? There are two reasons why I suggest people on Netbehaviour learn to program using these resources. Neither is so they can get jobs as code

Re: [NetBehaviour] Learn To Code

2012-01-07 Thread Andreas Maria Jacobs
Oracle bought Sun and their crown jewel Java, in a brilliant move to be able to compete and to break IBM's almost exclusive position as 'preferred' supplier in the financial world. As a side effect I lost my job as a IBM middleware Engineer, now I - and with me tens of thousands elderly soft

Re: [NetBehaviour] Learn To Code

2012-01-07 Thread ruth catlow
Nice one Rob! I count 8 new wannabe coders here. Let's see what happens. :) R On 07/01/2012 12:33, dave miller wrote: > I've been 'doing' php for a few years now, I really enjoy it, and lots > of community help available which helps me no end > > dave > > On 7 January 2012 12:26, Mark Hancock wro

Re: [NetBehaviour] Learn To Code

2012-01-07 Thread Marco Donnarumma
Simply great, I can't imagine how many people have been waiting for something like this. In! cheers! > http://codeyear.com/ > > http://codeacademy.com/ > > Learn programming via email and/or in your web browser. > -- Marco Donnarumma Independent New Media and Sonic Arts Practitioner, Performer

Re: [NetBehaviour] Learn To Code

2012-01-07 Thread dave miller
I've been 'doing' php for a few years now, I really enjoy it, and lots of community help available which helps me no end dave On 7 January 2012 12:26, Mark Hancock wrote: > I've dabbled in Java a couple of times but not really got to grips with it. I > like the look of it (aesthetically?). > >

Re: [NetBehaviour] Learn To Code

2012-01-07 Thread Mark Hancock
I've dabbled in Java a couple of times but not really got to grips with it. I like the look of it (aesthetically?). What do others think about when deciding to invest time in a new programming language? I suppose there are pros and cons for all of them, really? I don't have a particular project

Re: [NetBehaviour] Learn To Code

2012-01-07 Thread Rob Myers
On 07/01/12 11:12, dave miller wrote: > thanks Rob - have Oracle bought Sun? Yes they did that last year. This hasn't had a positive effect on the Free Software projects that were at Sun, and several Java people have left, but Java seems to be keeping going at Oracle. - Rob. _

Re: [NetBehaviour] Learn To Code

2012-01-07 Thread dave miller
thanks Rob - have Oracle bought Sun? dave On 7 January 2012 10:58, Rob Myers wrote: > On 07/01/12 10:51, dave miller wrote: >> This is a great idea - have signed up, just hope it's not a lot of work! >> >> Also - I need to learn java this year. Anyone recommend a good >> starting point? I know p

Re: [NetBehaviour] Learn To Code

2012-01-07 Thread Rob Myers
On 07/01/12 10:51, dave miller wrote: > This is a great idea - have signed up, just hope it's not a lot of work! > > Also - I need to learn java this year. Anyone recommend a good > starting point? I know php already Sun -er- Oracle have some good tutorials on their site - http://docs.oracle.com

Re: [NetBehaviour] Learn To Code

2012-01-07 Thread Rob Myers
On 07/01/12 09:27, Alessandra Scapin wrote: > I'm IN! :) Excellent! If anyone has any questions about code, I can help. Ask here on the list or ping me privately. :-) - Rob. ___ NetBehaviour mailing list NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org http://www.netbeha

Re: [NetBehaviour] Learn To Code

2012-01-07 Thread dave miller
This is a great idea - have signed up, just hope it's not a lot of work! Also - I need to learn java this year. Anyone recommend a good starting point? I know php already ta dave On 6 January 2012 20:25, Rob Myers wrote: > On 06/01/12 19:28, Mark Hancock wrote: >> damn you Rob Myers!! >> >> I'v

Re: [NetBehaviour] Learn To Code

2012-01-07 Thread Alessandra Scapin
Date: Fri, 6 Jan 2012 18:58:44 -0800 Subject: Re: [NetBehaviour] Learn To Code Can you give the link again? Thanks, Joel - Original Message - *From:* giselle beiguelman <mailto:desvirt...@gmail.com> *To:* NetBehaviour for networked distributed creativity <mailt

Re: [NetBehaviour] Learn To Code

2012-01-06 Thread Joel Weishaus
Can you give the link again? Thanks, Joel - Original Message - From: giselle beiguelman To: NetBehaviour for networked distributed creativity Sent: Friday, January 06, 2012 5:31 PM Subject: Re: [NetBehaviour] Learn To Code in! gb 2012/1/6 Rob Myers On 06/01/12

Re: [NetBehaviour] Learn To Code

2012-01-06 Thread giselle beiguelman
in! gb 2012/1/6 Rob Myers > On 06/01/12 19:28, Mark Hancock wrote: > > damn you Rob Myers!! > > > > I've signed up as well. > > Mwahahahaha. > > It's a very clear and simple site, and a genuinely useful programming > language (JavaScript). I can't recommend it enough. > > Anyone thinking "I coul

Re: [NetBehaviour] Learn To Code

2012-01-06 Thread Rob Myers
On 06/01/12 19:28, Mark Hancock wrote: > damn you Rob Myers!! > > I've signed up as well. Mwahahahaha. It's a very clear and simple site, and a genuinely useful programming language (JavaScript). I can't recommend it enough. Anyone thinking "I could never learn to code" or "I don't see what the

Re: [NetBehaviour] Learn To Code

2012-01-06 Thread Mark Hancock
damn you Rob Myers!! I've signed up as well. M On 6 Jan 2012, at 18:18, Rob Myers wrote: > On 06/01/12 14:54, Annie Abrahams wrote: >> thanks I signed in > > Yay! :-) > > How about the rest of you? :-) > > - Rob. > ___ > NetBehaviour mailing list

Re: [NetBehaviour] Learn To Code

2012-01-06 Thread Rob Myers
On 06/01/12 14:54, Annie Abrahams wrote: > thanks I signed in Yay! :-) How about the rest of you? :-) - Rob. ___ NetBehaviour mailing list NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour

Re: [NetBehaviour] Learn To Code

2012-01-06 Thread Annie Abrahams
thanks I signed in On Fri, Jan 6, 2012 at 3:36 PM, Rob Myers wrote: > http://codeyear.com/ > > http://codeacademy.com/ > > Learn programming via email and/or in your web browser. > ___ > NetBehaviour mailing list > NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org > http:

[NetBehaviour] Learn To Code

2012-01-06 Thread Rob Myers
http://codeyear.com/ http://codeacademy.com/ Learn programming via email and/or in your web browser.___ NetBehaviour mailing list NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour