[NetBehaviour] No Copyright Infringement Intended, 1st - 23rd September
Hi NetBehaviourists! The second iteration of No Copyright Infringement Intended is coming up at Vivid Projects in Birmingham, UK, from 1st - 23rd September. No Copyright Infringement Intended is a group exhibition exploring the relationship between copyright and culture in the digital age, investigating how the concept of ownership and authorship is evolving and coming into conflict with outdated copyright and intellectual property laws. The exhibition features work by Nick Briz, Emilie Gervais, Nicolas Maigret, Christopher Meerdo, Jan Nikolai Nelles & Nora Al-Badri, Duncan Poulton, Fernando Sosa, Andrea Wallace & Ronan Deazley. Further details are here: http://www.vividprojects.org.uk/programme/no-copyright-infringement-intended/ In addition to the exhibition there will be: * a panel discussion, Copyright as Frame and Prison, on 14th September http://www.vividprojects.org.uk/programme/copyright-as-frame-and-prison/ * Curator's tour on 16th September http://www.vividprojects.org.uk/programme/no-copyright-infringement-intended-curators-tour/ * Meme workshop on 12th September http://www.vividprojects.org.uk/programme/memes-for-luc-tuymans/ * and an #accordingToTheInternet workshop from Gretchen Andrew on 21st September http://www.vividprojects.org.uk/programme/accordingtotheinternet/ Let me know if there's any questions. Kind regards, Antonio -- anto...@hellocatfood.com http://www.hellocatfood.com ___ NetBehaviour mailing list NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour
[NetBehaviour] Copyright, culture, and creativity
Hi y'all, I recently wrote an article for the first issue of Imperica magazine about how large commercial corporations appropriate and exploit internet cultures and aesthetics. It's now online here: https://www.imperica.com/en/viewpoint/copyright-culture-and-creativity It makes reference to Nick Briz's project Rihanna (Green Screen Version) and Fernando Sosa's Left Shark 3D model, in particular focusing on how appropriation isn't cyclical when copyright laws can be abused. I wrote it to accompany the No Copyright Infringement Intended exhibition that I'm curating that opens on 7th April at Phoenix in Leicester http://www.phoenix.org.uk/event/no-copyright-infringement-intended/ . Enjoy! Antonio -- anto...@hellocatfood.com http://www.hellocatfood.com ___ NetBehaviour mailing list NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour
[NetBehaviour] No Copyright Infringement Intended, 7th April - 21st May
Hi NetBehaviourists! I'm curating an exhibition about copyrigh taking place from 7th April - 21st May at Phoenix in Leicester, UK. No Copyright Infringement Intended is a group exhibition exploring the relationship between copyright and culture in the digital age, investigating how the concept of ownership and authorship is evolving and coming into conflict with outdated copyright and intellectual property laws. The exhibition features work by Nick Briz, Emilie Gervais, Nicolas Maigret, Christopher Meerdo, Jan Nikolai Nelles & Nora Al-Badri, Duncan Poulton, Fernando Sosa, Andrea Wallace & Ronan Deazley. Further details are here http://www.phoenix.org.uk/event/no-copyright-infringement-intended/ In addition to the exhibition there will be a panel discussion, Copyright as Frame and Prison on 28th April http://www.phoenix.org.uk/event/copyright-as-frame-and-prison/ and a Curator's tour on 11th May http://www.phoenix.org.uk/event/curators-tour/ , both of which are free to attend. Let me know if there's any questions. Kind regards, Antonio -- anto...@hellocatfood.com http://www.hellocatfood.com ___ NetBehaviour mailing list NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour
Re: [NetBehaviour] Potentially Harmful
> You've created art that is resistant to media distribution. > > In 2016. > > That's awesome! > > And potential problems are identified by machine - > > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harding_test > > Which makes this an example of algorithmic critique as well. Wow, thank you!!! I'd actually be interested in taking this further and seeing what works pass the Harding Test. Anyone know broadcasting companies that like working with artists? > we had recently a conversation on LGM list about this - broadcasting not > suitable for photo sensitive people - there's some UK based advice on it > here on flashing images that may cause harm to viewers: > > https://www.epilepsy.org.uk/info/photosensitive-epilepsy/triggers > http://www.ofcom.org.uk/tv/ifi/guidance/bguidance/guidance2.pdf Thanks for the info! Antonio On 25 May 2016 at 19:59, Rob Myers <r...@robmyers.org> wrote: > On Wed, 25 May 2016, at 07:17 AM, Antonio Roberts wrote: >> I recently made an ident for MTV that was shown everywhere apart from >> the UK. This was due to the ident containing "Potentially Harmful" >> content. I've never worked in broadcast before and, whilst I know >> flashing imagery should be avoided, I didn't know stripes were >> disallowed. > > I wouldn't have thought of that either but stripes moving at speed will > flash. This is like a car driving through the shadows cast by tree > branches on a sunny day. > >> I've described this whole process here >> http://www.hellocatfood.com/potentially-harmful/ >> >> Does this render a lot of glitch art/new media/digital art >> unboradcastable? > > You've created art that is resistant to media distribution. > > In 2016. > > That's awesome! > > And potential problems are identified by machine - > > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harding_test > > Which makes this an example of algorithmic critique as well. > > So to answer your question - more energetic examples of glitch/new media > would need a certificate. I wonder if institutions that collect such > art have access to Harding testing? > ___ > NetBehaviour mailing list > NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org > http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour -- anto...@hellocatfood.com http://www.hellocatfood.com ___ NetBehaviour mailing list NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour
[NetBehaviour] Copyright, free culture and art
Hi netbehaviourists! I recently published an blog post entitled Copyright, free culture and art http://openglam.org/2016/05/09/copyright-free-culture-and-art/ The post gives an overview of my approach to working with open source software and free culture, with a particular focus my solo exhibition, Permission Taken, which tackles these issues. The exhibition itself runs until 30th May at the Bramall Music Building at University of Birmingham. Enjoy! Antonio -- anto...@hellocatfood.com http://www.hellocatfood.com ___ NetBehaviour mailing list NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour
Re: [NetBehaviour] more on VantaBlack
Got a citation for that? Would definitely like to read more.
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[NetBehaviour] Ctrl + C
I did a Pecha Kucha presentation recently about memes and cultural reappropriation by coroporations https://vimeo.com/148483138 There's a lot I didn't get to speak about - such as how people are circumventing content recognition system and focusing on copyright laws - but hopefully it's a good enough introduction to the topic. Antonio -- anto...@hellocatfood.com http://www.hellocatfood.com ___ NetBehaviour mailing list NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour
[NetBehaviour] Announcing Libre Graphics magazine, Issue 2.4: Capture
⤹⟷...⟺...⇄... sorry for cross-posting...⇄...⟺...⟷⤸ __ ()_)_)_)_)_)_)_)_)_)_)_)_)_)_)_)_)_)_)_)_)_)_)_)_)_)_)_)_)_)_)_)_)_)_)_) Announcing Libre Graphics magazine, Issue 2.4: Capture -__ (_(_(_(_(_(_(_(_(_(_(_(_(_(_(_(_(_(_(_(_(_(_(_(_(_(_(_(_(_(_(_(_(_(_(_() We’re very pleased to announce the release of issue 2.4 of Libre Graphics magazine. This issue looks at Capture, the act of encompassing, emulating and encapsulating difficult things, subtle qualities. Through a set of articles we explore capture mechanisms, memory, archiving and preservation of volatile digital information, physicality and aesthetization of data. Capture is the fourth and final issue in volume two of Libre Graphics magazine. Libre Graphics magazine is a print publication devoted to showcasing and promoting work created with Free/Libre Open Source Software. We accept work about or including artistic practices which integrate Free, Libre and Open software, standards, culture, methods and licenses. We invite you to buy the print edition of the issue, download the PDF or browse through the source files. We invite everyone to download, view, write, pull, branch and otherwise engage. This issue features pieces and contributions by Raphael Bastide, Antonio Roberts, Eric Schrijver, Birgit Bachler, Walter Langelaar, Stéphanie Vilayphiou, Scandinavian Institute for Computational Vandalism, Sebastian Schmieg, Kenneth Goldsmith, Robert M Ochshorn, Jessica Fenlon, Anna Carreras, Carles Domènech and Mariona Roca. _^^_ [_ print && pdf _] » http://libregraphicsmag.com [_ source files _] » https://gitlab.com/libregraphicsmag/vol2issue4 [_ announcement _] » http://libregraphicsmag.com/?p=376 || -- anto...@hellocatfood.com http://www.hellocatfood.com ___ NetBehaviour mailing list NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour
Re: [NetBehaviour] Selling digital art
> Without sounding condescending, this is an age-old conversation which got > fired up with Claire Bishop¹s essay in the ArtForum 50th Anniversary > issue. > https://artforum.com/inprint/issue=201207=31944=0 Not condescending at all! I'm aware of the works of people before me and that my search isn't anything new. > There are plenty of strategies for objective digital art and their > dissemination, but I haven¹t seen much new lately. > I seriously believe that digital art may take decades for inclusion, > except perhaps for decades-old standards like GIF graphics. I feared you might say that. It still seems that digital art has to mimic traditional art (prints, limited editions, certificates of authenticity etc) to still be accepted at the same level, which is a tad annoying considering the possiblities of "digital" art. Antonio On 2 November 2015 at 16:46, Patrick Lichty <p...@voyd.com> wrote: > Without sounding condescending, this is an age-old conversation which got > fired up with Claire Bishop¹s essay in the ArtForum 50th Anniversary > issue. > https://artforum.com/inprint/issue=201207=31944=0 > > The postinternet crowd replied to this with objects referring to digital > art and the Internet in traditional forms. > In many ways, ISEA 2015 signalled both the closest thing to transparency > with the Contemporary and a severe distancing from electronic forms > (Randall Packer). > How to monetize or collect? > Honestly, I have been selling Jacquard weavings, prints, and electronic > objects (Device art, Kusahara) that need only power and should run decades. > > There are plenty of strategies for objective digital art and their > dissemination, but I haven¹t seen much new lately. > I seriously believe that digital art may take decades for inclusion, > except perhaps for decades-old standards like GIF graphics. > > On 11/2/15, 5:07 PM, "Gretta Louw" <gretta.elise.l...@gmail.com> wrote: > >>Some works are right for printing and that¹s fine - but others aren¹t. In >>these cases I think the biggest problem is the lack of good hardware >>options for showing the digital/moving image works (affordable, stable, >>reliable). >> >>Something that I¹m experimenting with at the moment, is how much people >>are willing to pay for a commissioned digital portrait, see the website >>here: http://www.gifportrait.net/ >>Obviously working on a commission basis, with some creative input from >>the buyer, is not always desirable or feasible, but I do wonder whether a >>similar model might work - a series of works, say, that get revealed >>piece by piece as they are purchased. >> >>In a way, I also think it¹s our responsibility to show people how they >>can best purchase, hang, display our work (if that¹s something that is >>important for the artist at that time or for that project, which it isn¹t >>always). So, this would mean providing examples and perhaps even tips on >>what hardware works best etc. I mean, of course it would be ideal if a >>gallery or dealer would do this for usŠ >> >>Gretta >> >>> On 02 Nov 2015, at 13:53, Antonio Roberts <anto...@hellocatfood.com> >>>wrote: >>> >>>> It's often been suggested to me that I try selling prints of some of >>>>my more >>>> visual pieces but I can't do it. In these pieces there is no final >>>>state... >>>> they run... on and on and on. It would completely defy the nature of >>>>the >>>> work to attempt to capture a single moment for a print. >>> Snap. Most of my work is video and people want stills from it. >>> >>> I have thought about the possibility of people buying randomly >>> generated pieces. Or, they would pick a still from a generative piece >>> that would be printed. However, I don't think there are any existing >>> services that support this (and no, I can't set one up). >>> >>> Antonio >>> >>> On 2 November 2015 at 04:12, Pall Thayer <pallt...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> It's often been suggested to me that I try selling prints of some of >>>>my more >>>> visual pieces but I can't do it. In these pieces there is no final >>>>state... >>>> they run... on and on and on. It would completely defy the nature of >>>>the >>>> work to attempt to capture a single moment for a print. >>>> >>>> I did sell a piece a few years ago that was installed on a computer >>>>that was >>>> set up solely to run that piece. It was a piece that used imagery from >>>>a >>>> live w
Re: [NetBehaviour] Selling digital art
> Or you can sign prints or provide certificates of authenticity - That still goes falls in line with the value being based on scarcity. Each of the digital prints is still as authentic as the one before it. > You can always do prints with those nicer materials (archival paper/inks > etc.) and charge more for those. That might be way forward and I have no problem with this. > There are several startups that do blockchain-based editions of digital > works. ascribe for example: > > https://www.ascribe.io/ > > (I've met some of the people from ascribe but don't have any involvement > with the project. Other services are available etc.) I spoke with them a few months ago as well. In fact, I recommended that they talk to you ;-) > You could crowdfund the edition and have the prints as backer rewards at > various levels. On a separate level I have some problems with crowdfunding campaigns. When artists are exchanging making unique art for $10 I think it undervalues the artist. (I promise that I don't see problems in everything!!!) > Crowdfunding works best with things that are events with a narrative > people can get involved with, so you'd probably need to do annual or > biannual crowdfunding events for projects or (groups of) editions. > > You could also sell shares in a work/project/edition in return for e.g. > sponsorship mentions at shows (like at the end of a crowdfunded movie or > book). I understand what you mean, and in time I will use crowdfunding as a way to fund my general artistic practice, but in this case I want to be able to sell physical art in exchange for money money money and have the interaction stop there. Antonio On 2 November 2015 at 03:47, Rob Myers <r...@robmyers.org> wrote: > On 01/11/15 03:23 PM, Antonio Roberts wrote: >> >> My motivation behind this decision was my belief that the value of an >> artwork should not be based on scarcity. > > +1 > >> If I had used expensive >> materials or if making multiples was labour intensive then I could see >> more justification in raising the price and producing less. However, >> in my case they were relatively inexpensive digital prints and so >> making multiples was less of a problem. > > Treat it as tipping or patronage in return for a touch of the artist's aura? > >> This presents a problem if I want to make more money from things like prints. > > You can always do prints with those nicer materials (archival paper/inks > etc.) and charge more for those. > > Or you can sign prints or provide certificates of authenticity - > > https://www.flickr.com/photos/http_gallery/22348355411/ > > There are several startups that do blockchain-based editions of digital > works. ascribe for example: > > https://www.ascribe.io/ > > (I've met some of the people from ascribe but don't have any involvement > with the project. Other services are available etc.) > > that takes the prints out of the equation altogether. :-) > >> Crowdfunding (patreon, kickstarter etc) has been suggested in the past >> but that is more about supporting the artist, not about making money >> directly from the artwork itself. > > You could crowdfund the edition and have the prints as backer rewards at > various levels. > > Crowdfunding works best with things that are events with a narrative > people can get involved with, so you'd probably need to do annual or > biannual crowdfunding events for projects or (groups of) editions. > > You could also sell shares in a work/project/edition in return for e.g. > sponsorship mentions at shows (like at the end of a crowdfunded movie or > book). > > - Rob. > > ___ > NetBehaviour mailing list > NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org > http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour -- anto...@hellocatfood.com http://www.hellocatfood.com ___ NetBehaviour mailing list NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour
Re: [NetBehaviour] Selling digital art
> It's often been suggested to me that I try selling prints of some of my more > visual pieces but I can't do it. In these pieces there is no final state... > they run... on and on and on. It would completely defy the nature of the > work to attempt to capture a single moment for a print. Snap. Most of my work is video and people want stills from it. I have thought about the possibility of people buying randomly generated pieces. Or, they would pick a still from a generative piece that would be printed. However, I don't think there are any existing services that support this (and no, I can't set one up). Antonio On 2 November 2015 at 04:12, Pall Thayer <pallt...@gmail.com> wrote: > It's often been suggested to me that I try selling prints of some of my more > visual pieces but I can't do it. In these pieces there is no final state... > they run... on and on and on. It would completely defy the nature of the > work to attempt to capture a single moment for a print. > > I did sell a piece a few years ago that was installed on a computer that was > set up solely to run that piece. It was a piece that used imagery from a > live webcam. About 3 months later the webcam stopped working. I don't know > if they ever got it running again. > > On Sun, Nov 1, 2015 at 10:47 PM Rob Myers <r...@robmyers.org> wrote: >> >> On 01/11/15 03:23 PM, Antonio Roberts wrote: >> > >> > My motivation behind this decision was my belief that the value of an >> > artwork should not be based on scarcity. >> >> +1 >> >> > If I had used expensive >> > materials or if making multiples was labour intensive then I could see >> > more justification in raising the price and producing less. However, >> > in my case they were relatively inexpensive digital prints and so >> > making multiples was less of a problem. >> >> Treat it as tipping or patronage in return for a touch of the artist's >> aura? >> >> > This presents a problem if I want to make more money from things like >> > prints. >> >> You can always do prints with those nicer materials (archival paper/inks >> etc.) and charge more for those. >> >> Or you can sign prints or provide certificates of authenticity - >> >> https://www.flickr.com/photos/http_gallery/22348355411/ >> >> There are several startups that do blockchain-based editions of digital >> works. ascribe for example: >> >> https://www.ascribe.io/ >> >> (I've met some of the people from ascribe but don't have any involvement >> with the project. Other services are available etc.) >> >> that takes the prints out of the equation altogether. :-) >> >> > Crowdfunding (patreon, kickstarter etc) has been suggested in the past >> > but that is more about supporting the artist, not about making money >> > directly from the artwork itself. >> >> You could crowdfund the edition and have the prints as backer rewards at >> various levels. >> >> Crowdfunding works best with things that are events with a narrative >> people can get involved with, so you'd probably need to do annual or >> biannual crowdfunding events for projects or (groups of) editions. >> >> You could also sell shares in a work/project/edition in return for e.g. >> sponsorship mentions at shows (like at the end of a crowdfunded movie or >> book). >> >> - Rob. >> >> ___ >> NetBehaviour mailing list >> NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org >> http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour > > -- > P Thayer, Artist > http://pallthayer.dyndns.org > > ___ > NetBehaviour mailing list > NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org > http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour -- anto...@hellocatfood.com http://www.hellocatfood.com ___ NetBehaviour mailing list NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour
[NetBehaviour] Selling digital art
I have a conundrum regarding selling art that can easily be reproduced. Recently a curator suggested that I make limited edition prints of my artwork available at a premium price. In the past on a couple of occasions I've made prints (around 100) of my work available but not under the premise that they're limited edition. This was reflected in the price. My motivation behind this decision was my belief that the value of an artwork should not be based on scarcity. If I had used expensive materials or if making multiples was labour intensive then I could see more justification in raising the price and producing less. However, in my case they were relatively inexpensive digital prints and so making multiples was less of a problem. This presents a problem if I want to make more money from things like prints. Does anyone have any experiences of alternative approaches to selling digital art or work that can be easily reproduced that fit with these ethics? Crowdfunding (patreon, kickstarter etc) has been suggested in the past but that is more about supporting the artist, not about making money directly from the artwork itself. Thanks for any advice, Antonio -- anto...@hellocatfood.com http://www.hellocatfood.com ___ NetBehaviour mailing list NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour
[NetBehaviour] The Transnational Glitch
My article for Volume 2, Issue 1 of Libre Graphics magazine. You can still buy the issue or download it from their website: http://libregraphicsmag.com/ http://www.hellocatfood.com/2013/04/14/the-transnational-glitch/ Excerpt: American English is the common language of computing and the internet. That’s quite unfortunate. There are indeed many talented non-English speakers building our websites and shaping our digital future. That potential aside, one only has to look at the programming languages themselves and even small things like web addresses to see a bias towards English. Functions in popular programming languages are derived from English and, while websites that are not in English exist, their URLs are always in English, with only the domain extension (.fr, .pt, .es, .cn, etc.) available to give the website a sense of cultural identity. The English-language bias also extends itself to digital art. Creative programming languages like Pure Data and Processing still use English as their common language and present barriers to those who want to take part. Is an English-only ecosystem really the way forward? -- anto...@hellocatfood.com http://www.hellocatfood.com ___ NetBehaviour mailing list NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour
[NetBehaviour] Dirty New Media // REVOLUTION 02
THURSDAY 21 MARCH | 4-10PM | THE BARBER INSTITUTE, BIRMINGHAM Dirty New Media // REVOLUTION 02 An engaging day of performances and interactive installations from digital artists, hacktivists and new media explorers from the West Midlands, Chicago and beyond. Artworks take the form of hacked and customised hardware, accessories, demos, lectures, data-mangling, projection and more! Featuring: Performances from Minuek, Norah Lorway, Circuit Ben Lectures from Jon Cates (via video feed), Dan O'Hara Videos from Modulate, Carrie Gates, Theodore Darst, Antonio Roberts, Nick Kegeyan, Jennifer Chan, Kevin Carey, Michael Lightborne, Sian MacFarlane, Bryan Peterson Optical Theremin Workshop with Circuit Ben. Sign up here: http://dnmthereminworkshop.eventbrite.co.uk/ Exhibition with works by Benjamin Gaulon [aka Recyclism], Jeff Donaldson, Dec Ackroyd, Jason Soliday, Charlotte Frost and Rob Myers, Kate Pemberton, Jamie Boulton, URRRGH, Stef Lewandowski This eclectic, expectation bending event is presented by Vivid Projects in association with artist/curator Antonio Roberts and The Barber institute of Fine Arts. Free admission, no booking required. Dirty New Media. For further information and times, please contact 0121 414 2261 or email educat...@barber.org.uk Dirty New Media is presented as part of the University of Birmingham's first Arts Science Festival, a week long celebration of ideas, research and collaboration across campus. http://www.birmingham.ac.uk/artsandsciencefestival. http://www.vividprojects.org.uk -- anto...@hellocatfood.com http://www.hellocatfood.com ___ NetBehaviour mailing list NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour
[NetBehaviour] Announcing Libre Graphics magazine issue 2.1
This February, Libre Graphics magazine (http://libregraphicsmag.com) has reached a major milestone. We have published and shipped issue 2.1, the first number in our second volume. Titled “Localization/Internationalisation,” this issue explores the unique problems of non-latin type, the hyper-localisation of custom clothing patterns and international visual languages, among other topics. Launched at FOSDEM, this issue marks the beginning of our second volume of publication, and heralds our move towards an increasingly critical slant. Exploring not just how Free/Libre Open Source Software can be used to create high quality art and design, in volume 2, we see a growing emphasis on the cultural and social issues around F/LOSS and Free Culture. With 2.1, we discuss issues of regionality. We are currently seeking submissions (http://libregraphicsmag.com/libregraphicsmag.com/2013/02/gendering-floss-issue-2-2-call-for-submissions) for 2.2, “Gendering F/LOSS,” which will revolve around gendered identity and work in F/LOSS and Free Culture. We invite both potential readers and submittors to download, view, write, pull, branch and otherwise engage. We hope, in the coming year and with the help of a growing community, to further push the work of F/LOSS art, design and discussion. About Libre Graphics magazine Libre Graphics magazine (ISSN 1925-1416) is a print publication devoted to showcasing and promoting work created with Free/Libre Open Source Software. Since 2010, we have been publishing work about or including artistic practices which integrate Free, Libre and Open software, standards, culture, methods and licenses. Website: http://libregraphicsmag.com Identi.ca: @libregraphicsmagazine Twitter: @libgraphicsmag Gitorious: https://gitorious.org/libregraphicsmag -- anto...@hellocatfood.com http://www.hellocatfood.com ___ NetBehaviour mailing list NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour
[NetBehaviour] Blocked by URL Filter Database
The internet used by the libraries and council buildings in Birmingham blocked my website http://www.hellocatfood.com/2012/08/16/blocked-by-url-filter-database/ It seems glitch art and gifs present a Medium Risk. Take caution! -- anto...@hellocatfood.com http://www.hellocatfood.com ___ NetBehaviour mailing list NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour
Re: [NetBehaviour] Re REFLECTIONS : Reflections on the _New Aesthetic_
Wasn't the New Aesthetic part of Nu Rave? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_rave That's so 2008... On 20 April 2012 18:19, Rob Myers r...@robmyers.org wrote: On 04/20/2012 09:01 AM, manik wrote: ...WE'VE SEEN NEW AESTHETIC IN PAIR OF NEW CHINESE SNEAKERS...MANIK...APRIL...2012... This sounds right. - Rob. ___ NetBehaviour mailing list NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour -- anto...@hellocatfood.com http://www.hellocatfood.com ___ NetBehaviour mailing list NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour
[NetBehaviour] TOYBOX at TROVE - call out for toys and short films based on toys
TROVE call out for toys and short films based on toys DEADLINE 6th May 2012 Exhibition dates 15th – 23rd June 2012 --- TROVE is an independent art space in Birmingham, UK, which run a monthly changing programme of contemporary art exhibitions/events. http://trove.org.uk In June 2012 TROVE, with Antonio Roberts, are hosting an exhibition about toys. This project leads on from the discovery that the Jewellery Quarter, Birmingham, where TROVE is based, used to produce more ‘toys’ than jewellery, guns or pens; all things it is now more famously known for producing. When researching what toys were produced in this area of Birmingham it was discovered that the term ‘toys’ was used to describe items such as buttons, cuff-links and belt buckles. With the misinterpretation of the word ‘toys’ TROVE are looking for films about actual toys, as is the current understanding of the word, that have been altered, hacked, modified or electronically changed, rather than ‘toys’ meaning belt buckles, buttons etc. TROVE call out for toys TROVE are inviting you to submit examples of your modified toys to: anto...@hellocatfood.com Please email Antonio and include: * your CV and a short personal statement * a short description of the work/toys * links to online footage of the toy is available * max 6 photographs of the toy/s you are proposing Notes for application: * please make sure you can deliver and collect your toys from TROVE; 11th/12th June for drop off and 24th June for collection. * we will only be accepting applications where toys are battery powered For further info please contact Antonio on the above email address. TROVE call out for short films based on toys TROVE are inviting you to submit examples of films based on the theme of toys to: i...@trove.org.uk Please email TROVE and include: * your CV and a short personal statement * a short description of the film/s * links to online footage of the toy if available * max 6 photographs of the toy/s you are proposing Notes for application: * please make sure your films is 10 minutes long or less * we will be screening more than one film at a time so we will not be exhibiting films that rely on sound * the films need to be available during June 2012 For further info please contact TROVE on the above email address. -- anto...@hellocatfood.com http://www.hellocatfood.com ___ NetBehaviour mailing list NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour
Re: [NetBehaviour] Non-Destructive Image Editing and Git
*Don't* think of Hockney playing back a painting on his iPad. :-) Hahaha! Although I think being able to play back a picture is interesting I think it is one part of the whole problem. By having this data available you're then in a better position to begin to do things that you would in regular old Git, like forking and merging images On 19 March 2012 23:51, Rob Myers r...@robmyers.org wrote: On 19/03/12 22:55, Antonio Roberts wrote: From the Libre Graphics Research Unit Co-Position meeting that happened last month in Brussels I've published a few thoughts about the possible future of non-linear, non-destructive image editing http://www.hellocatfood.com/2012/03/19/non-destructive-image-editing-and-git/ Non-linear non-destructive image editing and public repositories will have a definite effect on art and art history scholarship. Think of mid-20th Century artists being filmed painting on glass, but a record of actual artistic production rather than simply acting it out. Or a visual Flashbake - http://bitbucketlabs.net/flashbake/ *Don't* think of Hockney playing back a painting on his iPad. :-) - Rob. ___ NetBehaviour mailing list NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour -- anto...@hellocatfood.com http://www.hellocatfood.com ___ NetBehaviour mailing list NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour
[NetBehaviour] Non-Destructive Image Editing and Git
From the Libre Graphics Research Unit Co-Position meeting that happened last month in Brussels I've published a few thoughts about the possible future of non-linear, non-destructive image editing http://www.hellocatfood.com/2012/03/19/non-destructive-image-editing-and-git/ Antonio -- anto...@hellocatfood.com http://www.hellocatfood.com ___ NetBehaviour mailing list NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour
Re: [NetBehaviour] Can glitch art go public?
I got a response from one of the people at the bus tops project that gave me this reply: I asked: were there any comments made by the public re glitch art at Bus Tops? They responded: Not that I've been able to see no, but thousands saw it. There is a real disconnect between on and offline Not sure if the pun was intentional, but I think it's a fair point. On 7 March 2012 23:44, Antonio Roberts anto...@hellocatfood.com wrote: Which leaves me to believe that your question is a personal one; how far along the sliding scale do you want or can you take glitch art? And when you finally make it to the public space, will the work, although it originated from glitch, still identify as a work of glitch? Very good summary! My worry is that in order to a) make my work more accessible b) reach a wider audience and c) not get rejected for so many public art projects I have to - and I take no joy in saying this - make my work dumber. A commenter on my blog suggested that if I keep doing this people will eventually learn how to read glitch art. I can't remember which essay I read it in, but someone argued that glitch will always be slightly on the outside of art. For me it feels like their's two options: Make my work dumber or endure a long hard battle to make the public glitch artworks more accepted On 6 March 2012 16:27, Rosa Menkman rosa_menk...@hotmail.com wrote: Dear Antonio and others, I think you ask a very simple question that opens up a box full of very complex problems. To not get stranded, I think its important to stress you are not talking about technological glitches (the scary, unwanted break from a technological flow), but glitch (as) art, which is derived from technologically-based glitch but since then has evolved into a more conceptually based art form and discourse. I would say glitch art is often employed to break the conventions that govern the publics expectations of a technology; it relays the publics perspective on a certain technology and shows what else is possible. In this sense, glitch art can also be described as a political or 'educating' act. But this is not always the case; glitch art is nothing new, it has many histories and genealogies. A lot of forms of glitch have become esthetic styles; Glitch art has grown, maybe paradoxically into a popular discourse, with its own dialectics and conventions. As a style you can find it on MTV (not only in Kanye!), or knitted into your HM clothes imported straight from the Bangladeshi labour factories. In the past I have tried to described a view of these glitch genealogies, some examples: from compression artifact to filter; from cd crack affect to sound effect; from circuitbend to simulation; from broken, voided technology to commoditized form. Thus glitch art can be defined following its roots in technological, but also in conceptual, political or esthetical grounds. These are by no means closed-off categories, and as much as they spill over into each other, they also leak into ... some kind of glitch nihilism. About public art. Public art is made for a public, so its meant to attract, at least to a certain extent. This means that there has to be a tradeoff between this glitchy-mess (the scary, uncanny, unwanted technology) and its attract-ability (both physically and mentally). Which leaves me to believe that your question is a personal one; how far along the sliding scale do you want or can you take glitch art? And when you finally make it to the public space, will the work, although it originated from glitch, still identify as a work of glitch? When do you as an artist or as a public find it more interesting to call the work something else? The trade off is between how big of a public you want (or in the case of your denied proposal) can attract and how far, or why, you, as a glitch artist, are willing to slide down the slippery scale. In my opinion, glitch esthetics has already permeated popular culture and is therefor not rare in the public (art) sphere. I am not a purist by any means but my preference in glitch art lies in work that educates, that opens perspectives or technologies and that surprises me. The growing perversion of transgression through glitch in technology, the mystification of the glitch and the glitch esthetics as an ultimate accessory of the public sphere has for many reasons not my preference. However, I see them as the other side of the coin and a definite part of (glitch)society - its part of a modern collective identity that I want part-take in, to be able to consciously reflect upon. However at this time, it was also one of the reasons for me to decline my invitation to the bus-stops project. Warmly, Rosa ⃝ ⃝ ⃝ ⃝ ⃝ ⃝ ⃝ ⃝ ⃝ ⃝ ⃝ ⃝ ⃝ ⃝ ⃝ ⃝ ⃝ ⃝ ⃝ ⃝ ⃝⃝ ⃝ ⃝ ⃝ ⃝ ⃝ ⃝ ⃝ ⃝ ⃝ ⃝ ⃝ ⃝ ⃝ ⃝ ⃝ ⃝ ⃝ ⃝ ⃝ ⃝ -- .- -.-- / - . / -... --- - ... / .-.. --- --- -.- / --- ...- . .-. / ..- ... ЯOSΛ MEИKMΛN▓██▓ ▒▒ ▒▒ ░ ░ ░ http://rosa
Re: [NetBehaviour] Networked Video Performance
what you have described is true of networked performance in general, not just networked video performance (except perhaps the last point - do you mean that the output also includes input from audience? which is the case in some but not all networked performance). are you only concerned with video? With this I mean each player in the performance. So, if the composer of the piece has decided that they want the audience to be involved then they will have a say in the final output. I'm primarily concern with video as I feel not much research has gone into this area. I don't know everything, but so so my experience has showed me that most networked performance revolves around audio, not video. Antonio On 12 March 2012 10:00, helen varley jamieson he...@creative-catalyst.com wrote: what you have described is true of networked performance in general, not just networked video performance (except perhaps the last point - do you mean that the output also includes input from audience? which is the case in some but not all networked performance). are you only concerned with video? i don't know much about wj-s, i think you need the software on your computer so maybe there is something to downlaod, but i could be wrong about this, you should email ann roguiny. greetings from pondicherry, h : ) On 8/03/12 4:41 AM, Antonio Roberts wrote: Thanks everyone for your responses and sorry for taking so long to reply. Although I'm still trying to discover what networked video performance is I'm thinking about it along these terms: * Live, with all participants playing/taking part in real time * Based on the interaction between each participant, not just the technology behind it * The output is the combined result of each participant Thanks also for the links regarding Pure Data (I already use it a lot). I think the specifics of the software that is used don't matter, just that they are able to interact with other software. And also the term network can be on or offline. As long as each participant is connected When I get time I will read through all of the links. Thanks again! Regarding this link http://www.wj-s.org/-news- is there actually any files to download? -- helen varley jamieson: creative catalyst he...@creative-catalyst.com http://www.creative-catalyst.com http://www.make-shift.net http://www.upstage.org.nz ___ NetBehaviour mailing list NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour -- anto...@hellocatfood.com http://www.hellocatfood.com ___ NetBehaviour mailing list NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour
Re: [NetBehaviour] Networked Video Performance
Thanks everyone for your responses and sorry for taking so long to reply. Although I'm still trying to discover what networked video performance is I'm thinking about it along these terms: * Live, with all participants playing/taking part in real time * Based on the interaction between each participant, not just the technology behind it * The output is the combined result of each participant Thanks also for the links regarding Pure Data (I already use it a lot). I think the specifics of the software that is used don't matter, just that they are able to interact with other software. And also the term network can be on or offline. As long as each participant is connected When I get time I will read through all of the links. Thanks again! Regarding this link http://www.wj-s.org/-news- is there actually any files to download? On 2 March 2012 13:14, lucille c c.luci...@gmail.com wrote: annie abrahams is working on this tool topic since many years (last project= angry women) http://bram.org/angry/women/ suzon fuchs has one too (waterwheel) http://water-wheel.net/ 2012/3/2 helen varley jamieson he...@creative-catalyst.com i just came across this site, http://www.videopong.net - it has an online video mixing tool, but it looks like it's just for one person to use on their own ( perhaps save the mixes, i'm not sure). On 27/02/12 12:52 PM, Antonio Roberts wrote: Is there such a thing as networked video performance? If so, are there any examples or literature surrounding this topic? I provide visuals for a band (BiLE http://www.bilensemble.co.uk/). The six performers are all connected on a local network, sharing messages over osc and manipulating each others' sounds to create one bigger sound. In some pieces they each manipulate sounds from a central source, or server. Has anything like this been explored with VJing? For example, a number of VJs each manipulating one thing or working with the same content to then manipulate it and display it on screen. Or maybe something else... Another band/collective I'm in, Freecode (http://freecodecollective.tumblr.com/), has started to look at this, but so far only by sending video output from each performer to a mixer. I feel this kind of collaboration could go deeper! Any thoughts are welcome -- helen varley jamieson: creative catalyst he...@creative-catalyst.com http://www.creative-catalyst.com http://www.make-shift.net http://www.upstage.org.nz ___ NetBehaviour mailing list NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour ___ NetBehaviour mailing list NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour -- anto...@hellocatfood.com http://www.hellocatfood.com ___ NetBehaviour mailing list NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour
Re: [NetBehaviour] Can glitch art go public?
Which leaves me to believe that your question is a personal one; how far along the sliding scale do you want or can you take glitch art? And when you finally make it to the public space, will the work, although it originated from glitch, still identify as a work of glitch? Very good summary! My worry is that in order to a) make my work more accessible b) reach a wider audience and c) not get rejected for so many public art projects I have to - and I take no joy in saying this - make my work dumber. A commenter on my blog suggested that if I keep doing this people will eventually learn how to read glitch art. I can't remember which essay I read it in, but someone argued that glitch will always be slightly on the outside of art. For me it feels like their's two options: Make my work dumber or endure a long hard battle to make the public glitch artworks more accepted On 6 March 2012 16:27, Rosa Menkman rosa_menk...@hotmail.com wrote: Dear Antonio and others, I think you ask a very simple question that opens up a box full of very complex problems. To not get stranded, I think its important to stress you are not talking about technological glitches (the scary, unwanted break from a technological flow), but glitch (as) art, which is derived from technologically-based glitch but since then has evolved into a more conceptually based art form and discourse. I would say glitch art is often employed to break the conventions that govern the publics expectations of a technology; it relays the publics perspective on a certain technology and shows what else is possible. In this sense, glitch art can also be described as a political or 'educating' act. But this is not always the case; glitch art is nothing new, it has many histories and genealogies. A lot of forms of glitch have become esthetic styles; Glitch art has grown, maybe paradoxically into a popular discourse, with its own dialectics and conventions. As a style you can find it on MTV (not only in Kanye!), or knitted into your HM clothes imported straight from the Bangladeshi labour factories. In the past I have tried to described a view of these glitch genealogies, some examples: from compression artifact to filter; from cd crack affect to sound effect; from circuitbend to simulation; from broken, voided technology to commoditized form. Thus glitch art can be defined following its roots in technological, but also in conceptual, political or esthetical grounds. These are by no means closed-off categories, and as much as they spill over into each other, they also leak into ... some kind of glitch nihilism. About public art. Public art is made for a public, so its meant to attract, at least to a certain extent. This means that there has to be a tradeoff between this glitchy-mess (the scary, uncanny, unwanted technology) and its attract-ability (both physically and mentally). Which leaves me to believe that your question is a personal one; how far along the sliding scale do you want or can you take glitch art? And when you finally make it to the public space, will the work, although it originated from glitch, still identify as a work of glitch? When do you as an artist or as a public find it more interesting to call the work something else? The trade off is between how big of a public you want (or in the case of your denied proposal) can attract and how far, or why, you, as a glitch artist, are willing to slide down the slippery scale. In my opinion, glitch esthetics has already permeated popular culture and is therefor not rare in the public (art) sphere. I am not a purist by any means but my preference in glitch art lies in work that educates, that opens perspectives or technologies and that surprises me. The growing perversion of transgression through glitch in technology, the mystification of the glitch and the glitch esthetics as an ultimate accessory of the public sphere has for many reasons not my preference. However, I see them as the other side of the coin and a definite part of (glitch)society - its part of a modern collective identity that I want part-take in, to be able to consciously reflect upon. However at this time, it was also one of the reasons for me to decline my invitation to the bus-stops project. Warmly, Rosa ⃝ ⃝ ⃝ ⃝ ⃝ ⃝ ⃝ ⃝ ⃝ ⃝ ⃝ ⃝ ⃝ ⃝ ⃝ ⃝ ⃝ ⃝ ⃝ ⃝ ⃝⃝ ⃝ ⃝ ⃝ ⃝ ⃝ ⃝ ⃝ ⃝ ⃝ ⃝ ⃝ ⃝ ⃝ ⃝ ⃝ ⃝ ⃝ ⃝ ⃝ ⃝ -- .- -.-- / - . / -... --- - ... / .-.. --- --- -.- / --- ...- . .-. / ..- ... ЯOSΛ MEИKMΛN▓██▓ ▒▒ ▒▒ ░ ░ ░ http://rosa-menkman.blogspot.com The Glitch moment/um GLI.TC/H ▓██▓ ▒▒ ▒▒ ░ ░ ░ From: inter...@noemata.net Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2012 14:26:46 +0100 To: netbehaviour@netbehaviour.org Subject: Re: [NetBehaviour] Can glitch art go public? I think Bob has a point. It's when technology works we shold understand it, but when it doesn't work then we don't need to understand and can ignore it. That it doesn't work is rather the same as saying
[NetBehaviour] Can glitch art go public?
I've had a few thoughts on the public's perception of glitch art: http://www.hellocatfood.com/2012/03/06/can-glitch-art-go-public/ tl;dr Is glitch art to be confined to galleries/events and appeal only to those in the know? Antonio -- anto...@hellocatfood.com http://www.hellocatfood.com ___ NetBehaviour mailing list NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour
[NetBehaviour] Libre Graphics Research Unit
The second Libre Graphics Research Unit (LGRU) meeting took place in Brussels from 21-25 February 2012. A writeup is coming soon but in the meantime here's some pictures from it: http://www.flickr.com/photos/hellocatfood/sets/72157629097635860/ and a writeup of the first meeting: http://libregraphicsworld.org/blog/entry/introducing-libre-graphics-research-unit Antonio -- anto...@hellocatfood.com http://www.hellocatfood.com ___ NetBehaviour mailing list NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour
[NetBehaviour] Networked Video Performance
Is there such a thing as networked video performance? If so, are there any examples or literature surrounding this topic? I provide visuals for a band (BiLE http://www.bilensemble.co.uk/). The six performers are all connected on a local network, sharing messages over osc and manipulating each others' sounds to create one bigger sound. In some pieces they each manipulate sounds from a central source, or server. Has anything like this been explored with VJing? For example, a number of VJs each manipulating one thing or working with the same content to then manipulate it and display it on screen. Or maybe something else... Another band/collective I'm in, Freecode (http://freecodecollective.tumblr.com/), has started to look at this, but so far only by sending video output from each performer to a mixer. I feel this kind of collaboration could go deeper! Any thoughts are welcome -- anto...@hellocatfood.com http://www.hellocatfood.com ___ NetBehaviour mailing list NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour
[NetBehaviour] Open call: Bring Your Own Beam - Birmingham
What: BRING YOUR OWN BEAMER When: Friday 16 March | 7-10pm | FREE Where: VIVID, Birmingham, UK More info: http://byobbirmingham.tumblr.com/ | byobbirming...@gmail.com Bring Your Own Beamer (BYOB) is an international series of one-night exhibitions inviting artists, armed with films and projectors, to convene and explore the art of projection in an immersive environment of moving light, sound and performance. VIVID and Flatpack Festival presents Bring Your Own Beamer Birmingham, curated by Antonio Roberts and Pete Ashton. Don't miss this unique opportunity to beam your work into the nooks and crannies of VIVID's Garage space. -- WE NEED YOU! -- Do you have a projector? And an original video work (by that we mean a film you made/ have permission to screen)? If so, BYOB Birmingham needs you! You're invited to submit films to be considered for inclusion at Birmingham's first BYOB event on Friday 16 March 2012. Participants will be required to provide their own laptop or DVD player, and a projector (it can be analogue or digital). Participants are responsible for their own equipment at all times. If you'd like to submit a film for consideration, please complete the online application form, located here http://is.gd/ofelPc Application deadline is Friday 24 February at 23:59. Please send any enquiries to byobbirming...@gmail.com -- anto...@hellocatfood.com http://www.hellocatfood.com ___ NetBehaviour mailing list NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour
Re: [NetBehaviour] Pure Data read as pure data
Cool link! I think it works best 'cause of the audio and video. Either on its own would just be a bit too chaotic. I did a few experiments with this myself last year http://www.hellocatfood.com/2010/03/29/its-just-noise/ I think with sonification things can sometimes be a bit too random, but in this case it seems to work though.. On 11 April 2011 18:56, Husk 00 hus...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Apr 11, 2011 at 6:05 PM, Pall Thayer pallt...@gmail.com wrote: This is really cool... http://peripheriques.free.fr/blog/index.php?/past/2010-pure-data-read-as-pure-data/ you are right, really cool! thanks for sharing! husk -- when Art become pratical, we call it technology, when Technology become useless we call it Art Song hojun www.estereotips.net ___ NetBehaviour mailing list NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour ___ NetBehaviour mailing list NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour
Re: [NetBehaviour] I don't know what to think anymore
. They went for the latter option. There are arguments for and against either option. Understanding why this has happened doesn't dull the pain for those that have lost out. Best Simon On 30/03/2011 23:09, Antonio Roberts anto...@hellocatfood.com wrote: http://www.flickr.com/photos/hellocatfood/5575389294/ After reading the Arts Council's funding decisions today I'm really not sure how I feel about them and the whole art world in general. I should just give up now. An artists' income is largely dependent on the government/Arts Council and they currently are more keen on cutting funding and trying to convince us that it'll be great challenge for our creativity. What a load of crap. A challenge is good, unemployment is not. What a crap day ___ NetBehaviour mailing list NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour Simon Biggs si...@littlepig.org.uk http://www.littlepig.org.uk/ s.bi...@eca.ac.uk http://www.elmcip.net/ http://www.eca.ac.uk/circle/ ___ NetBehaviour mailing list NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour ___ NetBehaviour mailing list NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour ___ NetBehaviour mailing list NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour ___ NetBehaviour mailing list NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour ___ NetBehaviour mailing list NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour ___ NetBehaviour mailing list NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour
Re: [NetBehaviour] Open Source Culture
Do you have any more examples of artists writing about open source culture (e.g. the link you posted to Joy Garnett) I ask because a lot of the writing and statistics that I see concerning open source art/creative commons/free culture (including music) tends to be from writers and researchers and I rarely get to read an opinion from a practicing artists Ant On 31 March 2011 13:59, Rob Myers r...@robmyers.org wrote: On 03/31/2011 11:54 AM, Rob Myers wrote: http://robmyers.org/weblog/2011/03/open-source-culture/ Here's a mini Open Source Culture reader for anyone who wants to find out more about this area: Fixed links (thanks Ale!): https://github.com/robmyers/open_source_art/ http://three.org/ippolito/writing/why_art_should_be_free/ - Rob. ___ NetBehaviour mailing list NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour ___ NetBehaviour mailing list NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour
[NetBehaviour] I don't know what to think anymore
http://www.flickr.com/photos/hellocatfood/5575389294/ After reading the Arts Council's funding decisions today I'm really not sure how I feel about them and the whole art world in general. I should just give up now. An artists' income is largely dependent on the government/Arts Council and they currently are more keen on cutting funding and trying to convince us that it'll be great challenge for our creativity. What a load of crap. A challenge is good, unemployment is not. What a crap day ___ NetBehaviour mailing list NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour
Re: [NetBehaviour] ???
SO FAR YOU DOING WELL Here's where I begin to overanalyse what you're saying. To say that I'm doing well suggests to me that I'll eventually get better and then somehow achieve something which goes back to my original problem of what the purpose of this is. Too much for Sunday On 27 March 2011 06:37, manik ma...@sbb.rs wrote: ...NOW YOU'VE MADE YOUR FIRST STEPS ON NETBEHAVIOUR... EMPHASIS WAS ON *IF*/...WE KNOW YOU COULDN'T OWN IT...ACTUALLY NOBODY CAN'T...WE ALL TRY TO MAKE SOME 'SHAPE'IN THAT FORM OF ...OR YOU EXPECT SOMETHING DEEPER...?...MORE INTELLECTUAL OR TACTILE SATISFACTION IN THAT KIND OF SOCIABLE...SO FAR YOU DOING WELL...MANIK...MARCH...2011... - Original Message - From: Antonio Roberts anto...@hellocatfood.com To: NetBehaviour for networked distributed creativity netbehaviour@netbehaviour.org Sent: Sunday, March 27, 2011 4:01 AM Subject: Re: [NetBehaviour] ??? ...ANTONIO...COULD WE CALL YOU TONY...?.../ON NETBEHAVIOUR ?/...SO..TOUN...ACTUALLY JUST T...BIG 'T'...COULD THAT SATISFIED YOU...?... Please, Antonio or Ant will do. YOU SEEM TO US LIKE REBELLIOUS MAN Just a little bit ;-) 'WHAT WILL YOU DO IF YOU COULD OWN SOME PLACE FOR YOUR ACTIVITY...SOMETHING LIKE NETBEHAVIOUR...? I feel I could only ever own something that I've created. I didn't create netbehaviour. Also, what do you mean by own? For me ownership gives me some amount of control over thing owned thing. I don't have any control over what happens here. I can attempt to shape it but it's all out of my hands Ant On 26 March 2011 19:43, manik ma...@sbb.rs wrote: ...ANTONIO...COULD WE CALL YOU TONY...?.../ON NETBEHAVIOUR ?/...SO..TOUN...ACTUALLY JUST T...BIG 'T'...COULD THAT SATISFIED YOU...?...WE HAVE ONE QUESTION FOR YOU-YOU SEEM TO US LIKE REBELLIOUS MAN/HAVING THAT ON MIND/:''WHAT WILL YOU DO IF YOU COULD OWN SOME PLACE FOR YOUR ACTIVITY...SOMETHING LIKE NETBEHAVIOUR...?...BECAUSE-ALL OF US COULD/TRY/ DESCRIBE THE WORLD...BUT WE NEED TO CHANGE THE WORLD/PARAHPRASE OF ---SOMEBODY/...MANIK...MARCH...2011... - Original Message - From: Antonio Roberts anto...@hellocatfood.com To: NetBehaviour for networked distributed creativity netbehaviour@netbehaviour.org Sent: Saturday, March 26, 2011 7:00 PM Subject: Re: [NetBehaviour] ??? Hi Marc, Thanks for this blurb about the list and what you do. Seems a little bit clearer now I think we actually met at the REFF opening (which I found out about from this list!) I think it's funny that I worry about getting things wrong on a list that has very little rules And now onwards! Ant On 26 March 2011 17:51, marc garrett marc.garr...@furtherfield.org wrote: Hi Antonio, I am one of the co-founders of the netbehaviour list which is part of a larger network, related neighbourhood of on-line off-line projects communities, connected with the collective www.furtherfield.org Sorry for not responding earlier, but we have just got back from the marches in London today. The list is an open environment which loosely exists for those who are interested in art, technology social change. Our history comes from art, networked art, activism, hackivism, hacking, net art media art, media art ecologies etc. Unlike some groups out there we believe that the resources we are engaged with in exploring with others, should be free. And this also extends to how we all behave here, thus the name netbehaviour. This list is a place where individuals groups do not need to pretend to each other, via a socially imposed interface from institutionally run protocols. Thus, things can get a little messy here every now then. Through an organic processes of shared daily experience, this list breaths an energy that hopefully allows a genuine reflective noise, which changes according to the values, of those using the list at the time - it is a living thing of things - filled by creative minds who wish to share via an unselfconscious understanding; that art need not be just about declaring conclusions, but also a more naturally humane set of different nuances, extremes subtleties. Out of this, dialogue is shared at various levels between artists, hackers, amateurs, musicians, geeks, techies, curators, academics more... We are all still learning here :-) wishing you well. marc I've surprisingly been subscribed to this list on and off for the last two years, though don't really post all that much. I think part of my problem in understanding what it's about can be related to my experience using Second Life. Because there's no goals or set agenda I'm never sure what to do or where to go. That, and I fear getting flamed for posting something off-topic I think I'll just try posting a few things and seeing how I get on. I'm sure it's a nice place, could do with some wallpaper though :-D Ant On 26 March 2011 14:32, Rob Myersr...@robmyers.org wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 26/03/11
Re: [NetBehaviour] ???
I feel I could only ever own something that I've created. that must get frustrating. Steady. I don't seek to have ownership over everything (or indeed anything). I'm more than happy to take part in something I think you created netbehaviour when you posted to the list. I didn't create netbehaviour. As a term/structure/organisation/system/thing netbehaviour has existed long before I came along. I'm defining it for myself and influencing the development of it and how others will interact with it (and they do the same). create or originate? Originate On 27 March 2011 14:59, Ruth Catlow ruth.cat...@furtherfield.org wrote: Hi Ant, I feel I could only ever own something that I've created. that must get frustrating. I didn't create netbehaviour. create or originate? I think you created netbehaviour when you posted to the list. Artists who act in networked space alternate between originating and joining in. As James's account highlighted we share responsibility, ownership and control and it gets messy. : ) Ruth ___ NetBehaviour mailing list NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour ___ NetBehaviour mailing list NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour
Re: [NetBehaviour] ???
Well, this has been fun and the most I've actually posted on here. Seems nice around here, might stay a little while :-) Ant On 27 March 2011 17:05, Ruth Catlow ruth.cat...@furtherfield.org wrote: Yes I know I was being dumb : ) -Original Message- From: Antonio Roberts anto...@hellocatfood.com Reply-to: NetBehaviour for networked distributed creativity netbehaviour@netbehaviour.org To: NetBehaviour for networked distributed creativity netbehaviour@netbehaviour.org Subject: Re: [NetBehaviour] ??? Date: Sun, 27 Mar 2011 15:22:59 +0100 I feel I could only ever own something that I've created. that must get frustrating. Steady. I don't seek to have ownership over everything (or indeed anything). I'm more than happy to take part in something I think you created netbehaviour when you posted to the list. I didn't create netbehaviour. As a term/structure/organisation/system/thing netbehaviour has existed long before I came along. I'm defining it for myself and influencing the development of it and how others will interact with it (and they do the same). create or originate? Originate On 27 March 2011 14:59, Ruth Catlow ruth.cat...@furtherfield.org wrote: Hi Ant, I feel I could only ever own something that I've created. that must get frustrating. I didn't create netbehaviour. create or originate? I think you created netbehaviour when you posted to the list. Artists who act in networked space alternate between originating and joining in. As James's account highlighted we share responsibility, ownership and control and it gets messy. : ) Ruth ___ NetBehaviour mailing list NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour ___ NetBehaviour mailing list NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour ___ NetBehaviour mailing list NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour ___ NetBehaviour mailing list NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour
Re: [NetBehaviour] ???
First I'll post this message, then something else Ant On 27 March 2011 17:55, Rob Myers r...@robmyers.org wrote: On 03/27/2011 05:27 PM, Antonio Roberts wrote: Well, this has been fun and the most I've actually posted on here. What would you *like* to post? :-) Post that. :-) - Rob. ___ NetBehaviour mailing list NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour ___ NetBehaviour mailing list NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour
Re: [NetBehaviour] ???
I've always wondered that myself. It seems like people juts post stuff here but I'm unsure if there's any rules as to what is allowed Ant On 25 March 2011 23:24, kim asendorf k...@kaubonschen.com wrote: is this a newsletter? ___ NetBehaviour mailing list NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour ___ NetBehaviour mailing list NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour
[NetBehaviour] Untitled post
This is my attempt at trying to understand what the hell netbehaviour is all about... ... ___ NetBehaviour mailing list NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour
Re: [NetBehaviour] ???
I've surprisingly been subscribed to this list on and off for the last two years, though don't really post all that much. I think part of my problem in understanding what it's about can be related to my experience using Second Life. Because there's no goals or set agenda I'm never sure what to do or where to go. That, and I fear getting flamed for posting something off-topic I think I'll just try posting a few things and seeing how I get on. I'm sure it's a nice place, could do with some wallpaper though :-D Ant On 26 March 2011 14:32, Rob Myers r...@robmyers.org wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 26/03/11 14:08, Antonio Roberts wrote: I've always wondered that myself. It seems like people juts post stuff here but I'm unsure if there's any rules as to what is allowed It's very much an open list so news, announcements, links, comment, discussion, art, work in progress, and anything else you can think of on the theme of media/network art and culture are all good. http://www.netbehaviour.org/about.htm - - Rob. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.11 (GNU/Linux) iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJNjfjnAAoJEOqcdhxmxssCfVwH/3XO8CGLyTYmkcIlFWKv1coN h1TRPMtte9hncPpnBvz6zzgB/yJ8kz2NNUNl+8gmwKAwrO+rdZQB+hLcAYGOoQ7c GwdeQiJ/AyVENEvjLpqwCHD98rKgtbPv/9eHciIG9B3jT/EX0zU6URlvNCCsgAUG DRTx0hPwR6x/LYDta+cN56lWSnOmeo2+eEzY82heTUhhvcE+mqn6CCMhaNfqJyRC KrCAxNuQK5IP3Jk1XQy2Mzt99yKMCp3h/xQMaDQXUSQGQHerveRkHdFlYfhaMs54 +GDb4qXRlEVBPXrYH7n5fxViVMsR36aCtq0HS4pJOq9gzufifAkkitV0WgGDyjI= =TpKf -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ NetBehaviour mailing list NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour ___ NetBehaviour mailing list NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour
Re: [NetBehaviour] Untitled post
it's better not to try to understand everything :) I need to know everything. That's actually why I use Linux ;-) (and also why I'm going slowly insane) Ant On 26 March 2011 17:23, helen varley jamieson he...@creative-catalyst.com wrote: it's better not to try to understand everything :) On 26/03/11 5:58 PM, Antonio Roberts wrote: This is my attempt at trying to understand what the hell netbehaviour is all about... ... ___ NetBehaviour mailing list NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour -- helen varley jamieson: creative catalyst he...@creative-catalyst.com http://www.creative-catalyst.com http://www.avatarbodycollision.org http://www.upstage.org.nz ___ NetBehaviour mailing list NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour ___ NetBehaviour mailing list NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour
Re: [NetBehaviour] ???
Hi Marc, Thanks for this blurb about the list and what you do. Seems a little bit clearer now I think we actually met at the REFF opening (which I found out about from this list!) I think it's funny that I worry about getting things wrong on a list that has very little rules And now onwards! Ant On 26 March 2011 17:51, marc garrett marc.garr...@furtherfield.org wrote: Hi Antonio, I am one of the co-founders of the netbehaviour list which is part of a larger network, related neighbourhood of on-line off-line projects communities, connected with the collective www.furtherfield.org Sorry for not responding earlier, but we have just got back from the marches in London today. The list is an open environment which loosely exists for those who are interested in art, technology social change. Our history comes from art, networked art, activism, hackivism, hacking, net art media art, media art ecologies etc. Unlike some groups out there we believe that the resources we are engaged with in exploring with others, should be free. And this also extends to how we all behave here, thus the name netbehaviour. This list is a place where individuals groups do not need to pretend to each other, via a socially imposed interface from institutionally run protocols. Thus, things can get a little messy here every now then. Through an organic processes of shared daily experience, this list breaths an energy that hopefully allows a genuine reflective noise, which changes according to the values, of those using the list at the time - it is a living thing of things - filled by creative minds who wish to share via an unselfconscious understanding; that art need not be just about declaring conclusions, but also a more naturally humane set of different nuances, extremes subtleties. Out of this, dialogue is shared at various levels between artists, hackers, amateurs, musicians, geeks, techies, curators, academics more... We are all still learning here :-) wishing you well. marc I've surprisingly been subscribed to this list on and off for the last two years, though don't really post all that much. I think part of my problem in understanding what it's about can be related to my experience using Second Life. Because there's no goals or set agenda I'm never sure what to do or where to go. That, and I fear getting flamed for posting something off-topic I think I'll just try posting a few things and seeing how I get on. I'm sure it's a nice place, could do with some wallpaper though :-D Ant On 26 March 2011 14:32, Rob Myersr...@robmyers.org wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 26/03/11 14:08, Antonio Roberts wrote: I've always wondered that myself. It seems like people juts post stuff here but I'm unsure if there's any rules as to what is allowed It's very much an open list so news, announcements, links, comment, discussion, art, work in progress, and anything else you can think of on the theme of media/network art and culture are all good. http://www.netbehaviour.org/about.htm - - Rob. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.11 (GNU/Linux) iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJNjfjnAAoJEOqcdhxmxssCfVwH/3XO8CGLyTYmkcIlFWKv1coN h1TRPMtte9hncPpnBvz6zzgB/yJ8kz2NNUNl+8gmwKAwrO+rdZQB+hLcAYGOoQ7c GwdeQiJ/AyVENEvjLpqwCHD98rKgtbPv/9eHciIG9B3jT/EX0zU6URlvNCCsgAUG DRTx0hPwR6x/LYDta+cN56lWSnOmeo2+eEzY82heTUhhvcE+mqn6CCMhaNfqJyRC KrCAxNuQK5IP3Jk1XQy2Mzt99yKMCp3h/xQMaDQXUSQGQHerveRkHdFlYfhaMs54 +GDb4qXRlEVBPXrYH7n5fxViVMsR36aCtq0HS4pJOq9gzufifAkkitV0WgGDyjI= =TpKf -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ NetBehaviour mailing list NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour ___ NetBehaviour mailing list NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour ___ NetBehaviour mailing list NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour ___ NetBehaviour mailing list NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour
Re: [NetBehaviour] ???
...ANTONIO...COULD WE CALL YOU TONY...?.../ON NETBEHAVIOUR ?/...SO..TOUN...ACTUALLY JUST T...BIG 'T'...COULD THAT SATISFIED YOU...?... Please, Antonio or Ant will do. YOU SEEM TO US LIKE REBELLIOUS MAN Just a little bit ;-) 'WHAT WILL YOU DO IF YOU COULD OWN SOME PLACE FOR YOUR ACTIVITY...SOMETHING LIKE NETBEHAVIOUR...? I feel I could only ever own something that I've created. I didn't create netbehaviour. Also, what do you mean by own? For me ownership gives me some amount of control over thing owned thing. I don't have any control over what happens here. I can attempt to shape it but it's all out of my hands Ant On 26 March 2011 19:43, manik ma...@sbb.rs wrote: ...ANTONIO...COULD WE CALL YOU TONY...?.../ON NETBEHAVIOUR ?/...SO..TOUN...ACTUALLY JUST T...BIG 'T'...COULD THAT SATISFIED YOU...?...WE HAVE ONE QUESTION FOR YOU-YOU SEEM TO US LIKE REBELLIOUS MAN/HAVING THAT ON MIND/:''WHAT WILL YOU DO IF YOU COULD OWN SOME PLACE FOR YOUR ACTIVITY...SOMETHING LIKE NETBEHAVIOUR...?...BECAUSE-ALL OF US COULD/TRY/ DESCRIBE THE WORLD...BUT WE NEED TO CHANGE THE WORLD/PARAHPRASE OF ---SOMEBODY/...MANIK...MARCH...2011... - Original Message - From: Antonio Roberts anto...@hellocatfood.com To: NetBehaviour for networked distributed creativity netbehaviour@netbehaviour.org Sent: Saturday, March 26, 2011 7:00 PM Subject: Re: [NetBehaviour] ??? Hi Marc, Thanks for this blurb about the list and what you do. Seems a little bit clearer now I think we actually met at the REFF opening (which I found out about from this list!) I think it's funny that I worry about getting things wrong on a list that has very little rules And now onwards! Ant On 26 March 2011 17:51, marc garrett marc.garr...@furtherfield.org wrote: Hi Antonio, I am one of the co-founders of the netbehaviour list which is part of a larger network, related neighbourhood of on-line off-line projects communities, connected with the collective www.furtherfield.org Sorry for not responding earlier, but we have just got back from the marches in London today. The list is an open environment which loosely exists for those who are interested in art, technology social change. Our history comes from art, networked art, activism, hackivism, hacking, net art media art, media art ecologies etc. Unlike some groups out there we believe that the resources we are engaged with in exploring with others, should be free. And this also extends to how we all behave here, thus the name netbehaviour. This list is a place where individuals groups do not need to pretend to each other, via a socially imposed interface from institutionally run protocols. Thus, things can get a little messy here every now then. Through an organic processes of shared daily experience, this list breaths an energy that hopefully allows a genuine reflective noise, which changes according to the values, of those using the list at the time - it is a living thing of things - filled by creative minds who wish to share via an unselfconscious understanding; that art need not be just about declaring conclusions, but also a more naturally humane set of different nuances, extremes subtleties. Out of this, dialogue is shared at various levels between artists, hackers, amateurs, musicians, geeks, techies, curators, academics more... We are all still learning here :-) wishing you well. marc I've surprisingly been subscribed to this list on and off for the last two years, though don't really post all that much. I think part of my problem in understanding what it's about can be related to my experience using Second Life. Because there's no goals or set agenda I'm never sure what to do or where to go. That, and I fear getting flamed for posting something off-topic I think I'll just try posting a few things and seeing how I get on. I'm sure it's a nice place, could do with some wallpaper though :-D Ant On 26 March 2011 14:32, Rob Myersr...@robmyers.org wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 26/03/11 14:08, Antonio Roberts wrote: I've always wondered that myself. It seems like people juts post stuff here but I'm unsure if there's any rules as to what is allowed It's very much an open list so news, announcements, links, comment, discussion, art, work in progress, and anything else you can think of on the theme of media/network art and culture are all good. http://www.netbehaviour.org/about.htm - - Rob. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.11 (GNU/Linux) iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJNjfjnAAoJEOqcdhxmxssCfVwH/3XO8CGLyTYmkcIlFWKv1coN h1TRPMtte9hncPpnBvz6zzgB/yJ8kz2NNUNl+8gmwKAwrO+rdZQB+hLcAYGOoQ7c GwdeQiJ/AyVENEvjLpqwCHD98rKgtbPv/9eHciIG9B3jT/EX0zU6URlvNCCsgAUG DRTx0hPwR6x/LYDta+cN56lWSnOmeo2+eEzY82heTUhhvcE+mqn6CCMhaNfqJyRC KrCAxNuQK5IP3Jk1XQy2Mzt99yKMCp3h/xQMaDQXUSQGQHerveRkHdFlYfhaMs54 +GDb4qXRlEVBPXrYH7n5fxViVMsR36aCtq0HS4pJOq9gzufifAkkitV0WgGDyjI= =TpKf -END PGP SIGNATURE
Re: [NetBehaviour] The trouble with Facebook for organizing
One of Facebook's many problems, but it extends to just about all social networks that allow for closed social groups. On 10 August 2010 22:52, manik ma...@sbb.rs wrote: ...IMO...PEOPLE WILL FIND WAY TO FIND EACH OTHER...THAT EVEN COULD BE SOMETHING ALMOST NEW...FACEBOK HAVE EVERY SYMPTOM TO BECAME PARADIGMATIC FOR NEW TOTALITARIAN SOCIETY/SOCIETY WHO INCLUDE ANGLO-SAXON TERRITORY WITH NEW...'COLONIES' AND SPREAD INFLUENCE ALL OVER THE WORLD/...FACEBOK TREAT HIS MEMBERSHIP LIKE LAWBREAKERS IN ADVANCE...CONSEQUENCE'S THAT ANY KIND OF COMMON INTEREST COULDN'T BE THEME BETWEEN FACEBOOK AND THEIR MEMBERSHIP...ONLY ONE IS QUILT...THIS ONE'S NOT 'FACE'...MANIK...AUGUST...2010... - Original Message - From: Rob Myers r...@robmyers.org To: NetBehaviour for networked distributed creativity netbehaviour@netbehaviour.org Sent: Tuesday, August 10, 2010 8:27 PM Subject: [NetBehaviour] The trouble with Facebook for organizing As the dominant online social network, Facebook is place where activists and organizers head to help their movements and ideas spread. People are already on Facebook, and can share discussions, events, actions, with their networks of friends. This is great. But there’s a pretty serious problem, it seems to me, in the use of Facebook for organizing. It’s hard to get to know people on Facebook. http://www.alevin.com/?p=2425 ___ NetBehaviour mailing list NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour __ NOD32 4979 (20100328) Information __ This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. http://www.eset.com ___ NetBehaviour mailing list NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour ___ NetBehaviour mailing list NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour
Re: [NetBehaviour] on holiday
Yay! On 9 August 2010 05:15, mez breeze netwur...@gmail.com wrote: she's not gonna kno wot hit her;) On Mon, Aug 9, 2010 at 2:12 PM, Neil Jenkins n...@netpraxis.net wrote: Oooh, getting excited... Jennie is back today :) On 08/08/2010, at 9:07 PM, jen...@jenniesavage.co.uk wrote: Hi, Thanks for getting in touch. I am away on holiday until 9th August and won't be able to access my emails, please send a text in an emergency. best wishes jennie ___ NetBehaviour mailing list NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour ___ NetBehaviour mailing list NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour -- Reality Engineer Synthetic Environment Strategist Game[r + ] Theorist. ::http://unhub.com/netwurker :: ___ NetBehaviour mailing list NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour attachment: yay.gif___ NetBehaviour mailing list NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour
Re: [NetBehaviour] on holiday
I think I'll miss these e-mails. It's always nice to know that someone
is on holiday (until August 9th) and enjoying themselves.
On 6 August 2010 00:49, Helen Sloan he...@scansite.org wrote:
Jennie's just got married. Perhaps we should text her as an emergency to say
that a lot of marriages end in tears and acrimonious break ups. No, please
don't - it's not you it's me. Or even congratulate her.
Congratulations Jennie. Hope it's okay to broadcast that you are Mrs Jennie
on Netbehaviour.
Cut her some slack and enjoy her predictable emails... She's back on 9th
August and then we'll miss them.
Helen
On 6/8/10 00:16, Alan Sondheim sondh...@panix.com wrote:
MY FOOT! I LOST MY FOOT!
(SINCE I NOW ONLY HAVE ONE, I DON'T KNOW WHICH! GOD HELP US!)
On Fri, 6 Aug 2010, James Morris wrote:
MY GOD! WHAT DOES EMERGENCY MEAN!?!?!?!?!
$ dict emergency
3 definitions found
From The Collaborative International Dictionary of English v.0.48 [gcide]:
Emergency \E*mergen*cy\, n.; pl. {Emergencies}. [See
{Emergence}.]
1. Sudden or unexpected appearance; an unforeseen occurrence;
a sudden occasion.
[1913 Webster]
Most our rarities have been found out by casual
emergency. --Glanvill.
[1913 Webster]
2. An unforeseen occurrence or combination of circumstances
which calls for immediate action or remedy; pressing
necessity; exigency.
[1913 Webster]
To whom she might her doubts propose,
On all emergencies that rose. --Swift.
[1913 Webster]
A safe counselor in most difficult emergencies.
--Brougham.
Syn: Crisis; conjuncture; exigency; pinch; strait; necessity.
[1913 Webster]
From WordNet (r) 2.0 [wn]:
emergency
n 1: a sudden unforeseen crisis (usually involving danger) that
requires immediate action; he never knew what to do in
an emergency [syn: {exigency}, {pinch}]
2: a state in which martial law applies; the governor declared
a state of emergency
3: a brake operated by hand; usually operates by mechanical
linkage [syn: {hand brake}, {emergency brake}, {parking
brake}]
From Moby Thesaurus II by Grady Ward, 1.0 [moby-thes]:
78 Moby Thesaurus words for emergency:
X ray, blood bank, breakers ahead, cardhouse, cause for alarm,
charity ward, climacteric, clinic, clutch, consultation room,
contingency, convergence of events, crisis, critical juncture,
critical point, crossroads, crucial period, crunch, danger,
dangerous ground, delivery room, difficulty, dispensary,
endangerment, examining room, exigency, extremity, fever ward,
gaping chasm, gathering clouds, hazard, high pressure, hinge,
hospital room, house of cards, imperativeness, imperilment,
intensive care, isolation, jeopardy, labor room, laboratory,
maternity ward, menace, nursery, operating room, pass, peril,
pharmacy, pinch, plight, predicament, press, pressure, prison ward,
private room, push, quicksand, recovery room, risk, rocks ahead,
rub, semi-private room, storm clouds, strait, stress, surgery,
tension, therapy, thin ice, threat, treatment room, turn,
turn of events, turning, turning point, urgency, ward
On 5 August 2010 19:35, Alan Sondheim sondh...@panix.com wrote:
She's asking for texts - don't you realize that? As if - Please send a
text in an envelope. So we must construct an emergency - but then if it's
sent, for example, Help, we're a text in an emergency! - how do we know
we won't get the same reply?
- Alan, in an emergency
On Thu, 5 Aug 2010, Antonio Roberts wrote:
Only 4 days until she's back. We should hold a party to welcome her back
On 5 August 2010 12:06, jen...@jenniesavage.co.uk wrote:
Hi, Thanks for getting in touch. I am away on holiday until 9th August
and
won't be able to access my emails,
please send a text in an emergency.
best wishes
jennie
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Re: [NetBehaviour] on holiday
Only 4 days until she's back. We should hold a party to welcome her back On 5 August 2010 12:06, jen...@jenniesavage.co.uk wrote: Hi, Thanks for getting in touch. I am away on holiday until 9th August and won't be able to access my emails, please send a text in an emergency. best wishes jennie ___ NetBehaviour mailing list NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour ___ NetBehaviour mailing list NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour
Re: [NetBehaviour] on holiday
Hi, Thanks for getting in touch. I am stuck in the Delta Quandrant until approximately year 2446 and wont be able to access my emails, please achieve warp 10 and send help in an emergency best wishes, Captain Janeway On 31 July 2010 12:06, jen...@jenniesavage.co.uk wrote: Hi, Thanks for getting in touch. I am away on holiday until 9th August and won't be able to access my emails, please send a text in an emergency. best wishes jennie ___ NetBehaviour mailing list NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour ___ NetBehaviour mailing list NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour
Re: [NetBehaviour] on holiday
what i am wondering is, if i have an emergency what is her mobile number??? That's revealed after she's sent at least 100 e-mails On 29 July 2010 20:06, helen varley jamieson he...@creative-catalyst.com wrote: what i am wondering is, if i have an emergency what is her mobile number??? On 29/07/10 3:16 PM, max d. well wrote: yeah indeed, i experienced it the same, especially after karen had made a point in interrupting the silent steady flow of jennies mails. from getting disturbed at the beginning the notion of jenny being absent the daily pattern somehow grew into a loving mail of a guru who wouldnt give you anything more than a lil massage of awareness how time goes. :-) max/xo On Thu, Jul 29, 2010 at 1:44 PM, Ruth Catlow ruth.cat...@furtherfield.org mailto:ruth.cat...@furtherfield.org wrote: James wrote: what kind of new media artist can't access their emails on holiday!? a good example. I am adopting Jenny as my new guru. : ) Ruth -Original Message- *From*: James Morris ja...@jwm-art.net mailto:james%20morris%20%3cja...@jwm-art.net%3e *Reply-To*: NetBehaviour for networked distributed creativity netbehaviour@netbehaviour.org mailto:netbehaviour%20for%20networked%20distributed%20creativity%20%3cnetbehavi...@netbehaviour.org%3e *To*: NetBehaviour for networked distributed creativity netbehaviour@netbehaviour.org mailto:netbehaviour%20for%20networked%20distributed%20creativity%20%3cnetbehavi...@netbehaviour.org%3e *Subject*: Re: [NetBehaviour] on holiday *Date*: Thu, 29 Jul 2010 12:16:57 +0100 On 29 July 2010 12:10, marc garrettmarc.garr...@furtherfield.org mailto:marc.garr...@furtherfield.org wrote: Wondering how long Jennie is on holiday for? Dunno, but what kind of new media artist can't access their emails on holiday!? marc Hi, Thanks for getting in touch. I am away on holiday until 9th August and won't be able to access my emails, please send a text in an emergency. best wishes jennie ___ NetBehaviour mailing list netbehavi...@netbehaviour.org mailto:NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour ___ NetBehaviour mailing list netbehavi...@netbehaviour.org mailto:NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour ___ NetBehaviour mailing list NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org mailto:NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour ___ NetBehaviour mailing list NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org mailto:NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour -- -- ≈~≈~≈~≈~≈~≈~≈~≈~≈ pomodoro bolzano media art work http://artclouds.blogspot.com www.pbspace.de http://www.pbspace.de www.artbirthday.com http://www.artbirthday.com .. Avatar Orchestra Metaverse http://avatarorchestra.blogspot.com/ ___ NetBehaviour mailing list NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour -- helen varley jamieson: creative catalyst he...@creative-catalyst.com http://www.creative-catalyst.com http://www.avatarbodycollision.org http://www.upstage.org.nz ___ NetBehaviour mailing list NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour ___ NetBehaviour mailing list NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour
Re: [NetBehaviour] Aphex Twin - Equation.
Probably the best thing we're gonna see come out of spectrograph software. It's different, for sure, but just not all that impressive. Has he done anything more since? On 7 July 2010 15:53, marc garrett marc.garr...@furtherfield.org wrote: Aphex Twin - Equation. http://youtu.be/u-KMFxzA_Lk Aphex Twin's Equation run through a Spectrograph program, as explained here: http://www.bastwood.com/aphex.php ___ NetBehaviour mailing list NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour ___ NetBehaviour mailing list NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour
Re: [NetBehaviour] Aphex Twin - Equation.
Something along these lines http://www.lshift.net/blog/2008/07/25/listening-to-your-webcam I like the performance aspect of it and I'd really just like to see it evolve a bit. Ant On 8 July 2010 13:02, James Morris ja...@jwm-art.net wrote: On 8 July 2010 11:00, Antonio Roberts anto...@hellocatfood.com wrote: Probably the best thing we're gonna see come out of spectrograph software. It's different, for sure, but just not all that impressive. What would you like to see? I house materialize in 3d *without* a spectrograph, purely out of the music playing such cunning tricks on your mind that it cause you to hallucinate? :-D Has he done anything more since? On 7 July 2010 15:53, marc garrett marc.garr...@furtherfield.org wrote: Aphex Twin - Equation. http://youtu.be/u-KMFxzA_Lk Aphex Twin's Equation run through a Spectrograph program, as explained here: http://www.bastwood.com/aphex.php ___ NetBehaviour mailing list NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour ___ NetBehaviour mailing list NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour ___ NetBehaviour mailing list NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour ___ NetBehaviour mailing list NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour
Re: [NetBehaviour] Whatever happened to Second Life?
It's not dead, it's not dying. It's changing into something different. Whenever there's any new thing introduced, be it virtual worlds, social networks or touch-screen phones, people are always quick to say it'll never catch on or wont be around for long. Well, Second Life has been around for years and it's still going strong. In many ways it reflects real life and its subcultures. Sure there's porn (was) gambling and small wolves trying to fuck your face find that in any popular network. Think about Twitter: when it's not trying to get you to click on ad-ridden websites it's trying to get you to click on links to Britney being fucked. As long as there's people with a wide variety of interests there'll always be networks to accommodate them. Ant 2010/1/6 marc garrett marc.garr...@furtherfield.org: Whatever happened to Second Life? Barry Collins It's desolate, dirty, and sex is outcast to a separate island. Barry Collins returns to Second Life to find out what went wrong, and why it’s raking in more cash than ever before Three years ago, I underwent one of the most eye-opening experiences of my life – and I barely even left the office. I spent a week virtually living and breathing inside Second Life: the massively multiplayer online world that contains everything from lottery games to libraries, penthouses to pubs, skyscrapers to surrogacy clinics. Oh, and an awful lot of virtual sex. Back then, the world and his dog were falling over themselves to “be a part of it”. Rock stars were queuing up to play virtual gigs, Microsoft and IBM were setting up elaborate pixellated offices to host staff training seminars, Reuters even despatched a correspondent to report back on the latest in-world developments. more... http://www.pcpro.co.uk/features/354457/whatever-happened-to-second-life ___ NetBehaviour mailing list NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour ___ NetBehaviour mailing list NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour
Re: [NetBehaviour] DIWO - Cloud Coughing - Cloud Coughing in City
I can't really tell if that's a circuit board or the sims/sim city in the background. Still a nice mod though! Ant 2009/11/13 karen blissett karen.bliss...@googlemail.com: ___ NetBehaviour mailing list NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour ___ NetBehaviour mailing list NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour
Re: [NetBehaviour] DIWO at The Dark Mountain only human
Another thing, I know there are plenty of new people on here, but only a small amount have introduced themselves... It would be great to hear from some of you out there :-) Hi, I'm one of those new people. Ant 2009/10/28 karen blissett karen.bliss...@googlemail.com: Hello again, Another thing, I know there are plenty of new people on here, but only a small amount have introduced themselves... It would be great to hear from some of you out there :-) karen ___ NetBehaviour mailing list NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour ___ NetBehaviour mailing list NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour
Re: [NetBehaviour] Lets meet tonight!
I was at chiptune marching band yesterday and it was really great. It's a shame that as I live in Birmingham I had to miss the evening event. I'll have to book a hotel somewhere next time. Ant 2009/10/24 marc garrett marc.garr...@furtherfield.org: Hi all, If you are in London this evening and wondering how to nourish your grass roots, noise and sound electrical diodes. Come and say hello at - Marching Rocks Gloves Code A night of experimental electronica: new, old and somewhere in-between. I'm also DJ'ing ;-) DJ Reroot (Marc Garrett) playing early electronic music from his own personal collection (vinyl only) from between 1976 - 84. Consisting of sounds which inspired a generation of energetic musicians and audiences who took control of their own culture, through a period which was part of the punk, new wave, no wave, electro, post-punk, cultural explosion. Of course, there's much more... http://www.spacestudios.org.uk/All_Content_Items/Media_Arts/Marching_Rocks_Gloves__Code/ Chip Tune Marching Band The marching ends here and kick off the night with some DIY electronic instruments powered by alternative energy. http://chiptunemarchingband.com/ Jo Kazuhiro (CultureLab, The SINE WAVE ORCHESTRA, Monalisa, AEO, and a co-organizer of dorkbot Tokyo and Chiptune Marching Band.) Showing two contrastive instruments “Lighting Wave” with photosensitive sine wave objects and Colored Noise with an isolated white noise generator. http://jo.swo.jp/ Jamie Allen's circuitMusic Jamie Allen makes interactive art and sound makers with his head and hands. circuitMusic is a platform for improvisational audio circuit building with raw op amp components. http://heavyside.net/ PixelH8 Internationally renowned chip tune musician brings his unique blend of electronica. http://pixelh8.co.uk/ Massive Black Mountain (Will Schrimshaw Nick J Williams) Environmental interaction and sonorous individuation: improvised performance built upon reaction, circuits, earth and code. http://willschrimshaw.net http://www.virb.com/njw Dave Griffiths (Slub, OpenLab) Providing the game magic that is 'al jazari' - and the audience plays too! http://www.pawfal.org/dave/ Adam Parkinson His musical activities include textural laptop improvisations, loping hip hop, preposterous electro and hard, glitchy techno- which one will we get? http://www.myspace.com/rareandglorious ___ NetBehaviour mailing list NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour ___ NetBehaviour mailing list NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour
Re: [NetBehaviour] Fwd: [ORG-discuss] London Hack Space
I'm trying to set something up like that in Birmingham currently. It seems there's interest in it, but not the manpower. Good luck with yours, I may travel down to see it too. Ant 2009/1/26 Rob Myers r...@robmyers.org: -- Forwarded message -- From: Jonty Wareing jo...@jonty.co.uk Date: Sun, Jan 25, 2009 at 11:11 PM Subject: [ORG-discuss] London Hack Space To: org-disc...@lists.openrightsgroup.org For some time now London has been in need of a proper hacker space. The number of hacking groups has exploded over the last year or so with new events popping up every weekend. Despite this we're still missing a meeting place, a place where we can store projects and share ideas. Where we can meet like minded people who share our passions. Where we can learn new skills without making a significant investment. We'd like to change that, but we need people to help. If you're interested, we've set up a preliminary mailing list on google groups where we can gather. It's just temporary until we come up with a name and have more solid foundations. Find us here: http://groups.google.com/group/london-hack-space --jonty ___ NetBehaviour mailing list NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour ___ NetBehaviour mailing list NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour
