Re: [NetBehaviour] plane depth in the furious light of the leader's bomb
The issue of the memorials for me isn't the point - as much as there are, as far as I know, no memorials to the slaves, what they went through. I don't know how any of this can be reconciled; there's also the Vietnam War memorial wall, and no wall for the Vietnamese who died (I think someone worked on this?) I don't think there will be any healing in the South as long as these symbolic artifacts and their displacement, destruction, etc. are the focus of attention. The real issues, the divisions in the South and in America in general, are enormous. Where are the monuments to the underground railroad, to what the slaves accomplished? There's no answer, this is a broken country - and one with an enormous amount of wealth and military materiel... Best, Alan On Sat, 9 Sep 2017, Johannes Birringer wrote: thank you for striking images, sounds and the writing, Alan. out of sky a lot of things have fallen it seems, and from the ground and under-ground the cold wars rise up still. i cannot articulate fear except fear for (the people of the United States) and ponder the removal or requested removal of statues and sculptures; Robert E Lee offends, perhaps George Washington & Thomas Jefferson will too or have already; the young people in Durham tore down a confederate monument and were arrested; one of them, Ngoc Loan Tran, used social media to state: "The will of the people in Durham, Charlottesville, and across the country is that we need to tear down these Confederate monuments. We need to tear down every prestige of white supremacy..." I remember, Alan, how you reacted with fear and anger to ISIS tearing down monuments or decapitating them, and it seems now that reports reach us of a new iconoclastic uproar raging in the United States, reflecting deep divisions and racial ressentiments on all sides; an article in Die Zeit speaks of "Ein Land im Kunstkrieg : Die USA erleben einen Bildersturm, wie man ihn sonst nur aus Revolutionen kennt. ?berall werden unliebsame Denkmale abger?umt" http://www.zeit.de/2017/35/bildersturm-kulturkampf-rassismus-donald-trump-usa and what does this battle over symbols rain down on us, with KKK and Neonazis marching in Charlottesville, openly armed and in camouflage? every direction is a path on a plain of scythes and glows? And Heather Heyer, who had demonstrated for the removal of the old general, is dead now. The civil war, i recall, was in 1861-65, so that is 150 years ago? the monuments were erected later, in the 1920s, 1930s? during segregation that was not supposed to have existed? and the bombs have still not been defused? Johannes Birringer [Alan Sondheim schreibt] Sent: 04 September 2017 03:37 plane depth in the furious light of the leader's bomb out of the sky falls more sky http://www.alansondheim.org/pvd14.jpg http://www.alansondheim.org/plane5.mp3 http://www.alansondheim.org/plane6.mp3 2nd radio, different frequencies, plane interior you hear what the plane says only what the plane says, its capability of your hearing http://www.alansondheim.org/coupling.mp3 improvisation by changing antenna inductance with hands (on the way to death i will do this music) http://www.alansondheim.org/pvd15.jpg we will die in the leader's bomb these sounds will do no harm furious the leaders square off in their squares their squares are full of tyros marching batons, frayed conductances, unruly radiations maze and meander obliterated, there are no paths among us every direction is a path on a plain of scythes and glows every image is there, michelangelo pulling from the rock (dead michelangelo pulled from the rock) nothing moves and everything hurts, what the plane drops up from the ground rises more ground out of the sky falls more sky New CD:- LIMIT: http://www.publiceyesore.com/catalog.php?pg=3&pit=138 email archive http://sondheim.rupamsunyata.org/ web http://www.alansondheim.org / cell 718-813-3285 current text http://www.alansondheim.org/uw.txt ___ NetBehaviour mailing list NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour
Re: [NetBehaviour] plane depth in the furious light of the leader's bomb
and the strata of Vietnam, and Nagasaki, Hiroshima, these shimmering/shattered/stuttered sites - a book I recommend (there are so many), The Legacy of Hiroshima, Its Past, Our Future, Naomi Shohno, Kosei, Tokyo, 1986. Also the classic in the field, Lifton's Death in Life, Survivors of Hiroshima, 1968. We think we 'know it all,' we need reminders, now more than ever. thanks, Alan On Thu, 7 Sep 2017, Johannes Birringer wrote: thank you for striking images, sounds and the writing. Alan. out of sky a lot of things have fallen it seems, i cannot articulate fear except fear for (the people in Korea and all affected by the leader of the North and his military who are testing their atomic bombs, and the people who are concerned, the neighbors, the people inside the country (who are threatened as much); the other leader of the north (US) used a phrase, in the German translation, with dire biblical ring, he would react to N. Korean bombs with"Feuer, Wut und Macht, wie die Welt es so noch nicht gesehen hat" which I translate as with"Fire, Wrath and Might, as the world has never seen before". The leader of the North (US) here seems to echo Harry S Truman in his 1945 address before the US dropped the Atomic Bomb on Hiroshima; Truman also spoke of a rain of total destruction from the air. In this context, I shall repeat what I proposed yesterday, that the war is not over; when one looks at the Korean War in the early 1950s, it is believed that more than 4.5 million Koreans died, and many cities were nearly entirely destroyed. Napalm was used by US and UN military forces that fought back the North Korean invasion of the South, and the cold war there (China also becoming involved) seems not to have ended in any solution to the crisis, and Korea remains a divided land. are these further strata? and are we witnessing "furious the leaders square off in their squares"? Johannes Birringer [Alan Sondheim schreibt Sent: 06 September 2017 21:28 Thank you for this indeed. I think it's strata, [Alan Sondheim schreibt] Sent: 04 September 2017 03:37 plane depth in the furious light of the leader's bomb out of the sky falls more sky ... we will die in the leader's bomb these sounds will do no harm furious the leaders square off in their squares their squares are full of tyros marching batons, frayed conductances, unruly radiations maze and meander obliterated, there are no paths among us every direction is a path on a plain of scythes and glows every image is there, michelangelo pulling from the rock (dead michelangelo pulled from the rock) nothing moves and everything hurts, what the plane drops up from the ground rises more ground out of the sky falls more sky ___ NetBehaviour mailing list NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour New CD:- LIMIT: http://www.publiceyesore.com/catalog.php?pg=3&pit=138 email archive http://sondheim.rupamsunyata.org/ web http://www.alansondheim.org / cell 718-813-3285 current text http://www.alansondheim.org/uw.txt ___ NetBehaviour mailing list NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour
Re: [NetBehaviour] plane depth in the furious light of the leader's bomb
thank you for striking images, sounds and the writing. Alan. out of sky a lot of things have fallen it seems, i cannot articulate fear except fear for (the people in Korea and all affected by the leader of the North and his military who are testing their atomic bombs, and the people who are concerned, the neighbors, the people inside the country (who are threatened as much); the other leader of the north (US) used a phrase, in the German translation, with dire biblical ring, he would react to N. Korean bombs with"Feuer, Wut und Macht, wie die Welt es so noch nicht gesehen hat" which I translate as with"Fire, Wrath and Might, as the world has never seen before". The leader of the North (US) here seems to echo Harry S Truman in his 1945 address before the US dropped the Atomic Bomb on Hiroshima; Truman also spoke of a rain of total destruction from the air. In this context, I shall repeat what I proposed yesterday, that the war is not over; when one looks at the Korean War in the early 1950s, it is believed that more than 4.5 million Koreans died, and many cities were nearly entirely destroyed. Napalm was used by US and UN military forces that fought back the North Korean invasion of the South, and the cold war there (China also becoming involved) seems not to have ended in any solution to the crisis, and Korea remains a divided land. are these further strata? and are we witnessing "furious the leaders square off in their squares"? Johannes Birringer [Alan Sondheim schreibt Sent: 06 September 2017 21:28 Thank you for this indeed. I think it's strata, [Alan Sondheim schreibt] Sent: 04 September 2017 03:37 plane depth in the furious light of the leader's bomb out of the sky falls more sky ... we will die in the leader's bomb these sounds will do no harm furious the leaders square off in their squares their squares are full of tyros marching batons, frayed conductances, unruly radiations maze and meander obliterated, there are no paths among us every direction is a path on a plain of scythes and glows every image is there, michelangelo pulling from the rock (dead michelangelo pulled from the rock) nothing moves and everything hurts, what the plane drops up from the ground rises more ground out of the sky falls more sky ___ NetBehaviour mailing list NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour
Re: [NetBehaviour] plane depth in the furious light of the leader's bomb
Thank you for this indeed. I think it's strata, now there is Irma and the Atlanta/Caribbean/Florida; I fear this more. In 1972 Hurricane Agnes brought misery to my hometown/parents, I was in Halifax at the time. The Susquehanna rose from 1 meter to more than 13 meters overnight; Wyoming Valley in PA. was flooded, to great depths, houses and businesses in parts completely submerged. In Houston at least unlike Rockport, it seems a question of 1st floor flooding, there's something left maybe to build on? Florida is frightening, we were there after Andrew and saw the results of Andrew's devastation, far worse w/ the winds, and now this. But the strata is always there; Wyoming V. has been hit with 90 floods since 1780 or so - and people keep rebuilding in the same spot. Stay warm and safe in Frankfurt (where my father's family is from btw) and stay in touch and thank you for your reply! - Alan On Wed, 6 Sep 2017, Johannes Birringer wrote: thank you for striking images, sounds and the writing. out of sky a lot of things have fallen it seems, i cannot articulate fear except fear for (the people in Houston and my friends who stood in the water or looked up to the storm), and then I pondererd, last week in Frankfurt, what I would have done back home in Houston, stayed put, evacuated, crawled through a hole I'd make onto the roof as the water rises? I was at the museum in Frankfurt to see "Kinetic Painting" https://youtu.be/bsI_KDii8po http://mmk-frankfurt.de/de/nc/ausstellungen/ausstellung-details/article/carolee_schneemann_kinetische_malerei/ a breathtaking retrospecticve of Carolee Schneemann's work; but then I met up with a friend who lives there and she calmy tells me that 65 000 people would be evacuated on Sunday, as a heavy World War II british bomb HC 4000 has been found during construction work in the west end. This reminded me that Gordana Novakovic, last spring, told me the same, her Kilburn district in London had to be evacuated, when they found a World War II german bomb there. that war ended more than 70 years ago, and so I read Alan's poem in this light, everything is there; it has not ended in fact. Johannes Birringer [Alan Sondheim schreibt] Sent: 04 September 2017 03:37 plane depth in the furious light of the leader's bomb out of the sky falls more sky http://www.alansondheim.org/pvd14.jpg http://www.alansondheim.org/plane5.mp3 http://www.alansondheim.org/plane6.mp3 2nd radio, different frequencies, plane interior you hear what the plane says only what the plane says, its capability of your hearing http://www.alansondheim.org/coupling.mp3 improvisation by changing antenna inductance with hands (on the way to death i will do this music) http://www.alansondheim.org/pvd15.jpg we will die in the leader's bomb these sounds will do no harm furious the leaders square off in their squares their squares are full of tyros marching batons, frayed conductances, unruly radiations maze and meander obliterated, there are no paths among us every direction is a path on a plain of scythes and glows every image is there, michelangelo pulling from the rock (dead michelangelo pulled from the rock) nothing moves and everything hurts, what the plane drops up from the ground rises more ground out of the sky falls more sky ___ NetBehaviour mailing list NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour New CD:- LIMIT: http://www.publiceyesore.com/catalog.php?pg=3&pit=138 email archive http://sondheim.rupamsunyata.org/ web http://www.alansondheim.org / cell 718-813-3285 current text http://www.alansondheim.org/uu.txt ___ NetBehaviour mailing list NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour
Re: [NetBehaviour] plane depth in the furious light of the leader's bomb
thank you for striking images, sounds and the writing. out of sky a lot of things have fallen it seems, i cannot articulate fear except fear for (the people in Houston and my friends who stood in the water or looked up to the storm), and then I pondererd, last week in Frankfurt, what I would have done back home in Houston, stayed put, evacuated, crawled through a hole I'd make onto the roof as the water rises? I was at the museum in Frankfurt to see "Kinetic Painting" https://youtu.be/bsI_KDii8po http://mmk-frankfurt.de/de/nc/ausstellungen/ausstellung-details/article/carolee_schneemann_kinetische_malerei/ a breathtaking retrospecticve of Carolee Schneemann's work; but then I met up with a friend who lives there and she calmy tells me that 65 000 people would be evacuated on Sunday, as a heavy World War II british bomb HC 4000 has been found during construction work in the west end. This reminded me that Gordana Novakovic, last spring, told me the same, her Kilburn district in London had to be evacuated, when they found a World War II german bomb there. that war ended more than 70 years ago, and so I read Alan's poem in this light, everything is there; it has not ended in fact. Johannes Birringer [Alan Sondheim schreibt] Sent: 04 September 2017 03:37 plane depth in the furious light of the leader's bomb out of the sky falls more sky http://www.alansondheim.org/pvd14.jpg http://www.alansondheim.org/plane5.mp3 http://www.alansondheim.org/plane6.mp3 2nd radio, different frequencies, plane interior you hear what the plane says only what the plane says, its capability of your hearing http://www.alansondheim.org/coupling.mp3 improvisation by changing antenna inductance with hands (on the way to death i will do this music) http://www.alansondheim.org/pvd15.jpg we will die in the leader's bomb these sounds will do no harm furious the leaders square off in their squares their squares are full of tyros marching batons, frayed conductances, unruly radiations maze and meander obliterated, there are no paths among us every direction is a path on a plain of scythes and glows every image is there, michelangelo pulling from the rock (dead michelangelo pulled from the rock) nothing moves and everything hurts, what the plane drops up from the ground rises more ground out of the sky falls more sky ___ NetBehaviour mailing list NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour
[NetBehaviour] plane depth in the furious light of the leader's bomb
plane depth in the furious light of the leader's bomb out of the sky falls more sky http://www.alansondheim.org/pvd14.jpg http://www.alansondheim.org/plane5.mp3 http://www.alansondheim.org/plane6.mp3 2nd radio, different frequencies, plane interior you hear what the plane says only what the plane says, its capability of your hearing http://www.alansondheim.org/coupling.mp3 improvisation by changing antenna inductance with hands (on the way to death i will do this music) http://www.alansondheim.org/pvd15.jpg we will die in the leader's bomb these sounds will do no harm furious the leaders square off in their squares their squares are full of tyros marching batons, frayed conductances, unruly radiations maze and meander obliterated, there are no paths among us every direction is a path on a plain of scythes and glows every image is there, michelangelo pulling from the rock (dead michelangelo pulled from the rock) nothing moves and everything hurts, what the plane drops up from the ground rises more ground out of the sky falls more sky ___ NetBehaviour mailing list NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour
