Re: Web + email hosting recommendations

2019-05-10 Thread Mayuresh
On Fri, May 10, 2019 at 08:16:06AM +0100, U'll Be King Of The Stars wrote: > I have used Hetzner in the past and they didn't offer the required > subset of KVM-like functionality. I asked their support team a few > months ago and was told I'd have to get a dedicated server. It will be very

Re: Web + email hosting recommendations

2019-05-10 Thread Christopher Pinon
U'll Be King Of The Stars wrote: > On 10 May 2019 07:53:06 BST, Mayuresh wrote: > >On Fri, May 10, 2019 at 06:45:14AM +0100, U'll Be King Of The Stars > >wrote: > >> FYI all I made an account at Vultr.com and installed OpenBSD (not > >> Net*). Anyway, it was a nice process. But the $2.50 and

Re: Web + email hosting recommendations

2019-05-10 Thread U'll Be King Of The Stars
On 10 May 2019 07:53:06 BST, Mayuresh wrote: >On Fri, May 10, 2019 at 06:45:14AM +0100, U'll Be King Of The Stars >wrote: >> FYI all I made an account at Vultr.com and installed OpenBSD (not >> Net*). Anyway, it was a nice process. But the $2.50 and $3.50 >VPS'es >> didn't seem to exist. >

Re: Web + email hosting recommendations

2019-05-10 Thread Mayuresh
On Fri, May 10, 2019 at 06:45:14AM +0100, U'll Be King Of The Stars wrote: > FYI all I made an account at Vultr.com and installed OpenBSD (not > Net*). Anyway, it was a nice process. But the $2.50 and $3.50 VPS'es > didn't seem to exist. `didn't exist' or `sold out'? The availability may vary

Re: Web + email hosting recommendations

2019-05-09 Thread U'll Be King Of The Stars
FYI all I made an account at Vultr.com and installed OpenBSD (not Net*). Anyway, it was a nice process. But the $2.50 and $3.50 VPS'es didn't seem to exist.

Re: Web + email hosting recommendations

2019-05-09 Thread Christopher Pinon
Mayuresh wrote: > On Thu, May 09, 2019 at 11:35:03AM +, Christopher Pinon wrote: > > > > This said, Vultr is no doubt a safer choice for NetBSD, because a number > > > > of us have run NetBSD on Vultr with no issues. > > > > > > Oh certainly. I can vouch for this as well. However Hetzner's

Re: Web + email hosting recommendations

2019-05-09 Thread Mayuresh
On Thu, May 09, 2019 at 11:35:03AM +, Christopher Pinon wrote: > > > This said, Vultr is no doubt a safer choice for NetBSD, because a number > > > of us have run NetBSD on Vultr with no issues. > > > > Oh certainly. I can vouch for this as well. However Hetzner's > > configuration for nearly

Re: Web + email hosting recommendations

2019-05-09 Thread Christopher Pinon
Mayuresh wrote: > > This said, Vultr is no doubt a safer choice for NetBSD, because a number > > of us have run NetBSD on Vultr with no issues. > > Oh certainly. I can vouch for this as well. However Hetzner's > configuration for nearly same price is quite better > > storage: 10G vs 20G > RAM:

Re: Web + email hosting recommendations

2019-05-09 Thread Mayuresh
On Thu, May 09, 2019 at 08:55:14AM +, Christopher Pinon wrote: > Yes, Hetzner's VPS line is KVM, and NetBSD should work on it, but I > don't have experience with this. Their control panel doesn't allow you > to upload an ISO but you can request an ISO via a ticket. Their panel > then allows

Re: Web + email hosting recommendations

2019-05-09 Thread Christopher Pinon
Andreas Gustafsson wrote: > Christopher Pinon wrote: > > > > It seems KVM, so possibly NetBSD should work. > > > > > > You need a dedicated server for this. > > > > Not clear what you mean. > > I sense some confusion between two entirely different meanings > of the acronym KVM: Kernel Virtual

Re: Web + email hosting recommendations

2019-05-09 Thread Andreas Gustafsson
Christopher Pinon wrote: > > > It seems KVM, so possibly NetBSD should work. > > > > You need a dedicated server for this. > > Not clear what you mean. I sense some confusion between two entirely different meanings of the acronym KVM: Kernel Virtual Machine (the Linux virtualization technology)

Re: Web + email hosting recommendations

2019-05-09 Thread Christopher Pinon
Andrew Luke Nesbit wrote: > On 09/05/2019 08:44, Mayuresh wrote: > > On Tue, May 07, 2019 at 09:20:57PM +, Christopher Pinon wrote: > >> Someone has already mentioned Vultr (who offer KVM VPSes), which is a > >> good choice. I've run a small NetBSD VPS at Vultr in the past. > > The idea of

Re: Web + email hosting recommendations

2019-05-09 Thread Christopher Pinon
Mayuresh wrote: > On Tue, May 07, 2019 at 09:20:57PM +, Christopher Pinon wrote: > > Someone has already mentioned Vultr (who offer KVM VPSes), which is a > > good choice. I've run a small NetBSD VPS at Vultr in the past. > > > > For a small, reliable UK-based provider (who offer both web

Re: Web + email hosting recommendations

2019-05-09 Thread Andrew Luke Nesbit
On 09/05/2019 08:44, Mayuresh wrote: > On Tue, May 07, 2019 at 09:20:57PM +, Christopher Pinon wrote: >> Someone has already mentioned Vultr (who offer KVM VPSes), which is a >> good choice. I've run a small NetBSD VPS at Vultr in the past. The idea of cheap VPS'es that offer KVM access is

Re: Web + email hosting recommendations

2019-05-09 Thread Mayuresh
On Tue, May 07, 2019 at 09:20:57PM +, Christopher Pinon wrote: > Someone has already mentioned Vultr (who offer KVM VPSes), which is a > good choice. I've run a small NetBSD VPS at Vultr in the past. > > For a small, reliable UK-based provider (who offer both web hosting and > VPSes), I can

Re: Web + email hosting recommendations

2019-05-09 Thread Fekete Zoltán
Hi, I confirm, vultr.com is an excellent provider to run NetBSD servers (a custom ISO should be uploaded before the installation, yes). They provide even a super-affordable "only IPV6 host" too, which is capable to be a backup, for example. And there are several other options for different

Re: Web + email hosting recommendations

2019-05-08 Thread Chris Humphries
I use Vultr.com with custom iso support for NetBSD, with the $5/month plan. Rock solid and have ipv4 and ipv6 working great (including reverse DNS). For mail, I self-host though there are many mail vendors that may fit the bill. If you're looking for everything bundled you may be searching for a

Re: Web + email hosting recommendations

2019-05-08 Thread Andrew Luke Nesbit
On 08/05/2019 18:41, Christopher Pinon wrote: > Thanks for your extended comment, but I'm not sure that I would conclude > from it that "Debian is in pretty bad shape these days". (Or, if so, > then that every distribution is in pretty bad shape these days.) You've identified a contradiction in

Re: Web + email hosting recommendations

2019-05-08 Thread Christopher Pinon
Andrew Luke Nesbit wrote: > On 08/05/2019 10:19, Christopher Pinon wrote: > > > Debian will never be as polished as CentOS or as shiny as Ubuntu, but > > it's pretty good in all other respects. > > I still think it's the best GNU/Linux distribution. It will be the gold > standard for a long

Re: Web + email hosting recommendations

2019-05-08 Thread Bob Bernstein
On Wed, May 08, 2019 at 05:48:10PM +0100, Andrew Luke Nesbit wrote: > I don't like systemd but I accept it and I embrace > it. And I think it will get better. I am trying to > learn how to operate it. Bingo. I agree completely with everything you say about Debian, the systemd wars (which

Re: Web + email hosting recommendations

2019-05-08 Thread Andrew Luke Nesbit
On 08/05/2019 09:09, Mayuresh wrote: > BTW what is the downside of having IPV6 only? Isn't it the future anyway? I am trying to go IPv6-native. It's been very difficult so far. The worst thing is when an ISP doesn't support IPv6. How does one work around this? Andrew -- OpenPGP key: EB28

Re: Web + email hosting recommendations

2019-05-08 Thread Andrew Luke Nesbit
On 08/05/2019 10:19, Christopher Pinon wrote: > Sijmen J. Mulder wrote: > >> U'll Be King Of The Stars wrote: >>> Debian is in pretty bad shape these days. >> >> At risk of getting OT here, but in what way? Not trying to debate, just >> curiousity. > > I can't say what ullbeking was thinking

Re: Web + email hosting recommendations

2019-05-08 Thread Sijmen J. Mulder
Sad Clouds wrote: > Hello, could anyone recommend web hosting providers for the following cases: I've been happy with TransIP. Official support for OpenBSD and FreeBSD but not NetBSD. Based in the Netherlands. Sijmen

Re: Web + email hosting recommendations

2019-05-08 Thread Christopher Pinon
Sad Clouds wrote: > On Wed, May 8, 2019 at 9:40 AM Christopher Pinon > wrote: > > > In my experience, nowadays, KVM and NetBSD play pretty well together, > > but yes, it's always possible for obscure KVM-related issues to arise. > > > > I've not used NetBSD that much on KVM, but I've had

Re: Web + email hosting recommendations

2019-05-08 Thread Sad Clouds
On Wed, May 8, 2019 at 9:40 AM Christopher Pinon wrote: > In my experience, nowadays, KVM and NetBSD play pretty well together, > but yes, it's always possible for obscure KVM-related issues to arise. > I've not used NetBSD that much on KVM, but I've had network and disk performance issues with

Re: Web + email hosting recommendations

2019-05-08 Thread Christopher Pinon
Sijmen J. Mulder wrote: > U'll Be King Of The Stars wrote: > > Debian is in pretty bad shape these days. > > At risk of getting OT here, but in what way? Not trying to debate, just > curiousity. I can't say what ullbeking was thinking of, but some were disappointed by Debian's decision (for

Re: Web + email hosting recommendations

2019-05-08 Thread Christopher Pinon
Mayuresh wrote: > On Wed, May 08, 2019 at 08:04:05AM +, Christopher Pinon wrote: > > When I ran NetBSD on Vultr over a year ago, the $2.5/m plan included a > > dedicated IPv4 address, but alas this is no longer the case. (That plan > > was also difficult to get, because they were nearly

Re: Web + email hosting recommendations

2019-05-08 Thread Christopher Pinon
Mark Carroll wrote: > On 08 May 2019, mayur...@acm.org wrote: > > > What could be NetBSD-specific issues that would require provider's help? I > > have faced none till now. Just curious. > > At least for VPS sometimes one suffers from the imperfect imitation > provided by the virtualization

Re: Web + email hosting recommendations

2019-05-08 Thread Sijmen J. Mulder
U'll Be King Of The Stars wrote: > Debian is in pretty bad shape these days. At risk of getting OT here, but in what way? Not trying to debate, just curiousity. Sijmen

Re: Web + email hosting recommendations

2019-05-08 Thread Christopher Pinon
Niels Dettenbach (Syndicat IT & Internet) wrote: > if runned with typical, "well" dimensioned and configured business server > hardware (i.e. HP DL or IBM etc. - what many think about if they think > "servers") on top IP uplink with skilled support personal without any > possible restrictions

Re: Web + email hosting recommendations

2019-05-08 Thread Mayuresh
On Wed, May 08, 2019 at 08:04:05AM +, Christopher Pinon wrote: > When I ran NetBSD on Vultr over a year ago, the $2.5/m plan included a > dedicated IPv4 address, but alas this is no longer the case. (That plan > was also difficult to get, because they were nearly always "sold out".) I still

Re: Web + email hosting recommendations

2019-05-08 Thread Christopher Pinon
Mayuresh wrote: > On Wed, May 08, 2019 at 07:19:05AM +0100, Sad Clouds wrote: > > UK-SSD-KVM-1024 > > 2 CPU Core (Equal Share) > > 1024 MB Ram > > 10 GB Pure NVMe SSD Disk space > > 1000 GB Bandwidth @ 1 gbit (shared) > > 1 x IPv4 address > > 1 x /64 IPv6 > > Full daily backup > > > > Price is

Re: Web + email hosting recommendations

2019-05-08 Thread Christopher Pinon
Sad Clouds wrote: > On Tue, 07 May 2019 21:20:57 + > Christopher Pinon wrote: > > > For a small, reliable UK-based provider (who offer both web hosting > > and VPSes), I can recommend https://inceptionhosting.com/ . I > > currently run a small NetBSD VPS with them. > > > > C. > > Hi,

Re: Web + email hosting recommendations

2019-05-08 Thread Mark Carroll
On 08 May 2019, mayur...@acm.org wrote: > What could be NetBSD-specific issues that would require provider's help? I > have faced none till now. Just curious. At least for VPS sometimes one suffers from the imperfect imitation provided by the virtualization platform where kernel- or

Re: Web + email hosting recommendations

2019-05-08 Thread Mayuresh
On Wed, May 08, 2019 at 07:23:29AM +, Christopher Pinon wrote: > Nevertheless, depending on the provider and the question, sometimes > they're willing to help with certain questions regarding well-known > Linux distributions. For example, if your question is "How do I set up > IPv6 on

Re: Web + email hosting recommendations

2019-05-08 Thread Christopher Pinon
Mayuresh wrote: > On Tue, May 07, 2019 at 09:20:57PM +, Christopher Pinon wrote: > > but naturally the downside is that the provider won't be able to help > > with NetBSD-specific issues. > > What could be NetBSD-specific issues that would require provider's help? I > have faced none till

Re: Web + email hosting recommendations

2019-05-08 Thread Niels Dettenbach (Syndicat IT & Internet)
Am 8. Mai 2019 08:19:05 MESZ schrieb Sad Clouds : >Price is 2.50EUR per month and no setup fees, which sounds rather >cheap. >Last time I looked into web hosting was about 15 years ago, so maybe >prices have come down this much. For such a small price, do they really >offer a reasonable service,

Re: Web + email hosting recommendations

2019-05-08 Thread Mayuresh
On Wed, May 08, 2019 at 07:19:05AM +0100, Sad Clouds wrote: > UK-SSD-KVM-1024 > 2 CPU Core (Equal Share) > 1024 MB Ram > 10 GB Pure NVMe SSD Disk space > 1000 GB Bandwidth @ 1 gbit (shared) > 1 x IPv4 address > 1 x /64 IPv6 > Full daily backup > > Price is 2.50EUR per month and no setup fees,

Re: Web + email hosting recommendations

2019-05-08 Thread Sad Clouds
On Tue, 07 May 2019 21:20:57 + Christopher Pinon wrote: > For a small, reliable UK-based provider (who offer both web hosting > and VPSes), I can recommend https://inceptionhosting.com/ . I > currently run a small NetBSD VPS with them. > > C. Hi, thanks for the link. This is one of their

Re: Web + email hosting recommendations

2019-05-07 Thread Mayuresh
On Tue, May 07, 2019 at 09:20:57PM +, Christopher Pinon wrote: > but naturally the downside is that the provider won't be able to help > with NetBSD-specific issues. What could be NetBSD-specific issues that would require provider's help? I have faced none till now. Just curious. Mayuresh

Re: Web + email hosting recommendations

2019-05-07 Thread Christopher Pinon
Sad Clouds wrote: > Hello, could anyone recommend web hosting providers for the following cases: > > 1. Register domain while it is available and set up basic web + email. > This only needs to be an empty landing page and ability to > send/receive emails at the new domain. There are thousands

Re: Web + email hosting recommendations

2019-05-07 Thread U'll Be King Of The Stars
Please forgive my ignorance, but what is MetaArray IV? I have been out of the SDF loop for while. In any case, I will log on to SDF tonight and find out. NetBSD is something special. Debian is in pretty bad shape these days. I hope it recovers soon. On 7 May 2019 19:57:32 BST, Mayuresh

Re: Web + email hosting recommendations

2019-05-07 Thread Mayuresh
On Tue, May 07, 2019 at 01:47:10PM +0100, Andrew Luke Nesbit wrote: > Also, don't forget SDF. They offer NetBSD VPS's. Slightly OT: There is a poll going on, on sdf to choose between Debian and NetBSD for MetaArray IV. sdfers on the list may please vote with their choice! Mayuresh

Re: Web + email hosting recommendations

2019-05-07 Thread Stephen Borrill
On Tue, 7 May 2019, Sad Clouds wrote: Hello, could anyone recommend web hosting providers for the following cases: 1. Register domain while it is available and set up basic web + email. This only needs to be an empty landing page and ability to send/receive emails at the new domain. There are

Re: Web + email hosting recommendations

2019-05-07 Thread Andrew Luke Nesbit
On 07/05/2019 13:39, Mayuresh wrote: > On Tue, May 07, 2019 at 01:37:51PM +0100, Sad Clouds wrote: >> Hello, do you know what hypervisor they use for your NetBSD VPS? > > Sorry, no idea. Also, don't forget SDF. They offer NetBSD VPS's. Andrew -- OpenPGP key: EB28 0338 28B7 19DA DAB0 B193

Re: Web + email hosting recommendations

2019-05-07 Thread Sad Clouds
Hello, do you know what hypervisor they use for your NetBSD VPS? On Tue, May 7, 2019 at 12:52 PM Mayuresh wrote: > > On Tue, May 07, 2019 at 12:46:54PM +0100, Sad Clouds wrote: > > Hello, could anyone recommend web hosting providers for the following cases: > > I do not know whether it suits all

Re: Web + email hosting recommendations

2019-05-07 Thread Mayuresh
On Tue, May 07, 2019 at 01:37:51PM +0100, Sad Clouds wrote: > Hello, do you know what hypervisor they use for your NetBSD VPS? Sorry, no idea. Mayuresh

Re: Web + email hosting recommendations

2019-05-07 Thread Niels Dettenbach
Am Dienstag, 7. Mai 2019, 13:46:54 CEST schrieb Sad Clouds: > 1. Register domain while it is available and set up basic web + email. > This only needs to be an empty landing page and ability to > send/receive emails at the new domain. There are thousands of > providers out there and I could pick

Re: Web + email hosting recommendations

2019-05-07 Thread Andrew Luke Nesbit
On 07/05/2019 12:46, Sad Clouds wrote: > Hello, could anyone recommend web hosting providers Perhaps you will find something suitable on this list? https://trac.torproject.org/projects/tor/wiki/doc/GoodBadISPs Andrew -- OpenPGP key: EB28 0338 28B7 19DA DAB0 B193 D21D 996E 883B E5B9

Re: Web + email hosting recommendations

2019-05-07 Thread Mayuresh
On Tue, May 07, 2019 at 12:46:54PM +0100, Sad Clouds wrote: > Hello, could anyone recommend web hosting providers for the following cases: I do not know whether it suits all your criteria, but a big advantage of vultr VPS is they allow custom iso based installation. I have a vultr VPS running

Web + email hosting recommendations

2019-05-07 Thread Sad Clouds
Hello, could anyone recommend web hosting providers for the following cases: 1. Register domain while it is available and set up basic web + email. This only needs to be an empty landing page and ability to send/receive emails at the new domain. There are thousands of providers out there and I