Re: NetBSD installer failure

2017-03-03 Thread Swift Griggs
On Fri, 3 Mar 2017, Al Zick wrote: http://datazap.net/sites/14/hang.jpg Does anyone have any ideas as to why? It's hard to say, but it looks like it's failing right before the real root file system is mounted. Did you have them try without SMP and ACPI ? You can disable those from the bootloa

Re: x86_64 hardware recommendations/warnings?

2017-03-13 Thread Swift Griggs
On Mon, 13 Mar 2017, John D. Baker wrote: I find myself in the position of recommending components for a friend to build a more up-to-date machine on which to run NetBSD. I wish you luck. I've been using NetBSD since 1996 and, though I'm a huge fan, I have never found a great method to find "k

Re: old i386 3.1 packages or upgrading with KVM

2017-03-14 Thread Swift Griggs
On Tue, 14 Mar 2017, Jeremy C. Reed wrote: Does anyone know where I can find old 3.1 packages for i386? Damn, that could be tough. I just looked and my oldest go back to 4.x only. I burn a DVD or write a tape with the pkg_tarup versions of all my packages before I upgrade. However, I didn't h

Re: Problems with wsconsole

2017-04-25 Thread Swift Griggs
On Tue, 25 Apr 2017, co...@sdf.org wrote: [...] the new graphical acceleration drivers. Ohh, shiny! Is there any information about these new or newly improved drivers? Where did this code come from; is it a port from Linux or a NetBSD specific enhancement? I'm just curious. -Swift

Re: Can NetBSD cgd be used for encrypted backup?

2017-06-19 Thread Swift Griggs
On Mon, 19 Jun 2017, Mayuresh wrote: Just curious. How does iscsi compare with NFS? Guess even NFS has a notion of block size, that would help optimize io. Sorry for butting in, but I'd point out that NFS is file-based and layers on top of an existing filesystem. So, the block size of the unde

Re: distcc for pkgsrc issue

2017-07-07 Thread Swift Griggs
On Fri, 7 Jul 2017, John Halfpenny wrote: Just an update for posterity that I resolved this issue. Interesting. The wrapper script idea reminds me of another question about distcc and friends. I've noticed that some packages complain with great aggrevation about my use of "make -jX" where X=C

Re: bnx(4) thread consumes 100%+ of CPU.

2017-07-13 Thread Swift Griggs
On Thu, 13 Jul 2017, John D. Baker wrote: Driver issue? Hardware failing? I could switch to its second interface, "bnx1" and see if it does the same thing. I may be mis-remembering, but I think I've seen these kind of kernel-threads-going-nuts with a Broadcom interface before. I hate Broadc

Re: pcmcia scsi

2017-07-31 Thread Swift Griggs
On Mon, 31 Jul 2017, Bj?rn Johannesson wrote: pcmcia1: CIS version PCMCIA 2.0 or 2.1 pcmcia1: CIS info: Adaptec, Inc., APA-1460 SCSI Host Adapter, Version 0.01 I have one of these, too. I got it to use with my Amiga 1200. I wonder if NetBSD supports it on that platform. If someone has experi

SDIO vs ATA vs SCSI

2017-07-31 Thread Swift Griggs
I've been trying to figure out the relationship of SDIO to ATA. The reason is to find more ATA compatible hardware for DEC Alpha machines. Lots of them had ATA interfaces for CDROMs or system drives. However, most appear to support IDE rather than EIDE. I'm basing that off the lack of a keyed

question on tuning devices with usbhidctl

2017-08-07 Thread Swift Griggs
I fire up usbhidaction and it seems to work. Then as soon as I try to use the device, usbhidaction dies with this "device busy" error. What am I doing wrong? The actions will get executed (once) but then the whole thing collapses. I keep yelling "YEAH! It's BUSY! I'm the one using it!" but th

Pulseaudio & browsers - anyone got something ELSE working?

2017-08-13 Thread Swift Griggs
So, just a few years ago, we had to have flash (a security nightmare) setup and working to do things like play a youtube video. That sucked because you never knew when someone was going to bend flash over and 0wn your system. My best defense was click-to-play plugins so flash only loaded when

Re: Pulseaudio & browsers - anyone got something ELSE working?

2017-08-14 Thread Swift Griggs
On Sun, 13 Aug 2017, Chavdar Ivanov wrote: My firefox-54.0 was build with the default 'oss' option, sound is working well, I have never noticed any problems. I'll try that. I didn't realize there was such a thing. That should work well for my purposes. Thanks! -Swift

USB & PCI Audio Device Problems

2017-11-06 Thread Swift Griggs
I have several NetBSD hosts running 7.1 that I use as workstations. Sound has been a big pain. USB sound never works (anywhere under any circumstances on any device). Anything that tries to play sound to a USB audio device says "Audio device got stuck!". I would think it's related to the USB

fs-uae and e-uae bork the mouse in X11

2018-03-02 Thread Swift Griggs
Either of these Amiga emulators will try to capture the mouse. Fine, good, that's normal. However, once you exit the emulator the mouse will no longer work in X11. I have to unplug and replug the mouse to get it to "wake up". Anyone know why? Is this a bug or a feature I don't understand? -

Re: modular-xorg...my latest

2019-03-16 Thread Swift Griggs
On Sat, 16 Mar 2019, Bob Bernstein wrote: Included is my latest 'make' in modular-xorg. Thank you for your hard work, Bob. I have been an on-again off-again user of the modular build for years. I started back before Nouveau sorted out a lot of nvida issues because it worked better for me in t

Re: Gigabyte GX-BXBT-1900

2015-10-02 Thread Swift Griggs
On Fri, 2 Oct 2015, Sridhar Ayengar wrote: Yes. Also, I could write the OS to the hard drive and then boot off that. That still won't get me to a working user workstation, however. Have you tried things like disabling/enabling various ACPI features in your BIOS/EFI, enabling AHCI, disabling U

Re: Xvnc startup problem

2015-10-07 Thread Swift Griggs
On Wed, 7 Oct 2015, Steve Blinkhorn wrote: Getting interface configuration (4): Device not configured It's probably trying to fiddle with a bit of hardware that isn't actually there. That message "Device not configured" is probably coming from perror() out of libc somewhere. It's the same mes

Lenovo M83 Tiny works nicely with 7.0

2015-10-09 Thread Swift Griggs
If anyone is looking for a small form-factor machine that works with NetBSD 7.x extremely well, check out the Lenovo M83 Tiny. I recently got one and I figured I'd have to host everything out of VMware in order to run NetBSD on it. However, I figured I'd give it a shot and started with 7.0_RC

Re: nspluginwrapper and libflashsupport updates for adobe-flash-plugin

2015-10-29 Thread Swift Griggs
On Thu, 29 Oct 2015, Roy Bixler wrote: I wonder if it's possible to build a recent Firefox using some other audio backend. It seems worthwhile, since pulseaudio is a real CPU hog and it might also eliminate the need for dbus/avahi. Indeed. Pulseaudio is unbelievable. It's got a relatively h

Re: upgrading 5.x to 6.1.5 or 7?

2015-10-29 Thread Swift Griggs
On Fri, 30 Oct 2015, Carl Brewer wrote: In the past, I've over-written the kernel with the new version, rebooted, then untar'ed the OS tarballs, over-writing everything, then run postinstall to tidy up /etc, and it's "just worked" That's the same method I use, as well. Any issues I might have

Re: Please recommend office package on NetBSD

2015-10-30 Thread Swift Griggs
On Fri, 30 Oct 2015, Mayuresh wrote: So need a minimal reader for open/MS office files. Minimal == antiword (converts word docs to text) Small == abiword (standalone word processors that supports MS DOC[X] files) Am trying to build misc/libreoffice and somewhere gave up due to dependencies

Re: Please recommend office package on NetBSD

2015-10-30 Thread Swift Griggs
On Fri, 30 Oct 2015, Mayuresh wrote: Minimal == antiword (converts word docs to text) Tried. Cute one, but seems to say "is not a Word Document." for just too many files. It only works on doc (Word 97 or before, I think) files not the newer DOCX files (which are really zip files full of MS ga

Re: Please recommend office package on NetBSD

2015-10-30 Thread Swift Griggs
On Fri, 30 Oct 2015, Andreas Kusalananda K?h?ri wrote: Why would you open up a big clunky *editor* to read a document? I wouldn't. :-) Get back to them and tell them to send you a PDF version of the thing instead. The option to export to PDF is right there, in the menu. It's a lot harder

Re: nspluginwrapper and libflashsupport updates for adobe-flash-plugin

2015-10-30 Thread Swift Griggs
On Fri, 30 Oct 2015, J. Lewis Muir wrote: More like it's a real shame that the people that write the browsers can't write secure code. Well good point. That too. It's all a matter of perspective, I suppose. Related to this, it's a real shame that the Web specs are so complicated that it

Re: NetBSD on Dedibox SC Gen2

2015-11-02 Thread Swift Griggs
On Sun, 1 Nov 2015, Nils Ratusznik wrote: I can clearly live with it, since the KVM is only used for installations and for first tasks. However, I experienced freezes on these two machines : there is no answer to a ping or ssh, and I get no display from the console (but I suppose this is relate

Re: Does pkgin have "resume download" feature?

2015-11-05 Thread Swift Griggs
On Thu, 5 Nov 2015, Jonathan Perkin wrote: What backend does pkgin use? libfetch. I often have problems with pkgin downloads. For some odd reason, in the middle of my downloads it often just hangs (--stalled--). It's usually when it's right in the middle of a file. I have to ctrl-c, then res

Re: How does one switch between acpiout?

2015-11-12 Thread Swift Griggs
On Thu, 12 Nov 2015, John Klos wrote: [...] output, instead of acpiout1, which is the laptop's LCD screen. How do I switch between those outputs? man xrandr. Also read this: http://divby0.blogspot.com/2008/12/switching-monitors-with-xrandr.html -Swift

Re: trusted certs in AWS image

2015-11-12 Thread Swift Griggs
On Thu, 12 Nov 2015, Jan Schaumann wrote: After spinning up an AWS NetBSD 6.1.5 instance (ami-bc2c94d4), I find that does not have a trusted CA bundle. I've seen this issue with other tools that want a cert bundle like 'wget' and 'aria2c' as well as 'youtube-dl'. I would speculate that the too

Re: systemd stance

2015-11-16 Thread Swift Griggs
On Sat, 14 Nov 2015, Riccardo Mottola wrote: I think they are mostly justified rants and debian got ruined. I wouldn't call them rants. I'd call them completely justified points that left a huge polarizing division between those who wanted to seem "progressive" or "on board" with the proposed

Re: How does one switch between acpiout?

2015-11-17 Thread Swift Griggs
On Tue, 17 Nov 2015, John Klos wrote: man xrandr. Also read this: http://divby0.blogspot.com/2008/12/switching-monitors-with-xrandr.html That's for X and doesn't handle anything which has to do with the console output. Ah, sorry about that. I didn't pay close enough attention. I assume you ar

Re: How does one switch between acpiout?

2015-11-18 Thread Swift Griggs
On Tue, 17 Nov 2015, John Nemeth wrote: http://nxr.netbsd.org/xref/src/sys/dev/acpi/acpi_display.c#1250 In other words, it is fully implemented, at least in -current. Very cool, and come to think of it, it works like a champ on my -current laptop. So, I should have known it was already done.

Re: (tutorial) How to use PulseAudio on NetBSD

2015-11-19 Thread Swift Griggs
On Thu, 19 Nov 2015, Roy Bixler wrote: I dislike pulseaudio for both architectural and performance reasons, so I adopted the option outlined in the above pkgsrc-bugs link and it did allow me to play audio in Firefox 41 without pulseaudio. This discussion is a bit confusing. Firefox is able to

Re: Beating a dead horse

2015-11-24 Thread Swift Griggs
On Tue, 24 Nov 2015, Felix Deichmann wrote: You can probably save a lot of time, tries and headache by doing a fresh installation of your server with correct alignment and block sizes... Is there a procedure online somewhere for verifying that you have properly aligned your file system on a UF

Re: Beating a dead horse

2015-11-25 Thread Swift Griggs
On Wed, 25 Nov 2015, Andreas Gustafsson wrote: The don't have sectors as much as flash pages, and the page size varies from device to device. I'm curious about something, probably due to ignorance of the full dynamics of the vfs(9) layer. Why is it that folks don't choose file system block si

Re: Beating a dead horse

2015-11-25 Thread Swift Griggs
On Wed, 25 Nov 2015, Greg Troxel wrote: So there are two issues: alignment and filesystem block/frag size, and both have to be ok. Ahh, a key point to be certain. So that's ok, but alignment is messier. It sure seems that way! :-) We're seeing smaller disks with 4K sectors or larger flas

Re: Beating a dead horse

2015-11-25 Thread Swift Griggs
On Thu, 26 Nov 2015, Robert Elz wrote: FFS is OK on NetBSD-7 (not sure about LFS or others, never tried them). Raidframe might be (haven't looked) but both cgd and ccd are a mess... I wonder if the same is true for LVM? Since it's relatively new, perhaps some of these issues were worked out in

Re: Beating a dead horse

2015-11-25 Thread Swift Griggs
On Wed, 25 Nov 2015, William A. Mahaffey III wrote: While LVM may have been designed by committee, I am pretty sure it was originally an SGI committee, & seems pretty good to me as well. As a guy who still supports ancient Unix platforms every day, I'll tell you that IRIX categorically rocks i

Re: Dbus issues

2015-12-02 Thread Swift Griggs
On Tue, 1 Dec 2015, Mitt Green wrote: I'm troubling starting X on a newly installed system. Dbus errors are keeping you from starting X? Do you mean it's keeping your X environment from being usable and coming up fully to GNOME or that it's somehow crashing or interfering with X? Xorg under N

Re: NetBSD 6.1 NFS server performances

2015-12-03 Thread Swift Griggs
On Thu, 3 Dec 2015, Emile `iMil' Heitor wrote: [ 3] 0.0-10.0 sec 1.06 GBytes 908 Mbits/sec 1048576000 bytes (1.0 GB) copied, 9.27363 s, 113 MB/s Gigabit link, all clear. I've seen somewhat higher iperf results at around 998 MBit/s with Intel server NICs. However, I consider anything above

Re: Reduce CPU usage of PulseAudio on NetBSD

2015-12-23 Thread Swift Griggs
On Wed, 23 Dec 2015, Kamil Rytarowski wrote: The simplest way to reduce >90% CPU usage to <1% on a NetBSD host is the following set of two commands (assuming running daemon): I have another method. mv /usr/pkg/bin/pulseaudio /usr/pkg/bin/disabled.turd.pulseaudio (I don't pkg_delete it due to

NetBSD 7.0 amd64 boot failure on KVM

2015-12-31 Thread Swift Griggs
I tried to fire up a 64bit version of netbsd on KVM (using the latest Proxmox build 4.1-1). The KVM version is QEMU emulator version 2.4.1 pve-qemu-kvm_2.4-17. I'm also using the Linux kernel module for kvm (kvm_intel). Here's what happens when the system boots (last 5 lines that matter from

Re: Firsts in NetBSD

2016-01-07 Thread Swift Griggs
On Thu, 7 Jan 2016, David Young wrote: First with an 802.11 stack, net80211, by Atsushi Onoe. First with the extensible 802.11 radio-information header, radiotap. [...] All of these and the others from other folks are GREAT! I'll create a collated list and re-post it here in a few days so that

Firsts & facts about NetBSD - wrapup

2016-01-13 Thread Swift Griggs
Here's everything from all the folks who gave me ideas or tidbits. Thank you folks! * First with a USB stack * First with TCP Auto tuning (Linux's autotune is based on NetBSD's strategy, Windows Vista also came later and used the same technique) * First with Free ports to Alpha, HPPA, and

Re: Firsts & facts about NetBSD - wrapup

2016-01-13 Thread Swift Griggs
On Wed, 13 Jan 2016, D'Arcy J.M. Cain wrote: * Among the first free operating systems to use CVS shortly after it's debut. Also the last. :-/ Hehe, true. I still dig CVS though. I tried switching to Mercurial and SVN before and after a few merge nightmares I went back to CVS. I think it's a

DisplayLink drivers and functionality

2016-01-15 Thread Swift Griggs
I have a a little 8" MIMO USB DisplayLink monitor. I want to use it as a 2nd screen attached to my NetBSD workstation I use for work. It'd be useful to keep my log viewer running there. I see some code in the kernel and some mention of devices in usbdevs, too. However, when I plugged it in,

Re: DisplayLink drivers and functionality

2016-01-18 Thread Swift Griggs
On Mon, 18 Jan 2016, Masanobu SAITOH wrote: That device could be supported by udl(4). sys/dev/usb/udl.c is a driver for DipslayLink devices. Well that would be excellent. Could you show me the output of "usbdevs -v" command to identify the device ID? port 2 addr 5: high speed, power 500 mA,

Re: DisplayLink drivers and functionality

2016-01-19 Thread Swift Griggs
On Tue, 19 Jan 2016, SAITOH Masanobu wrote: I've added some devices include your device now. Could you try with the latest -current? Yes, indeed. I'll try in the next few days and report back. I just have to move this little monitor home to where I have a -current machine. I'll let you know h

Interesting new hardware that works in 7.0

2016-01-21 Thread Swift Griggs
[Tandberg RDX Removable drive - USB 3.0 model 8666-RDX] http://www.tandbergdata.com/us/index.cfm/products/removable-disk/rdx-quikstor/ I got a this drive for backups. It's basically a rig where they encapsulate SATA 2.5" drives in a hardened case and treat them in a hybrid fashion between tap

Any Postfix solution for mail server migration?

2016-01-21 Thread Swift Griggs
How can this be done? I've Googled and there only seem to be vague hints, but no solid method to migrate in the way I'm proposing. ---[ Problem Description ]--- Server "Oldserv" = old MTA system I want to get away from Server "Newserv" = new MTA I want to migrate TO. 1. Mail to flow to Newser

Re: tmux overhead

2016-01-21 Thread Swift Griggs
On Thu, 21 Jan 2016, John Klos wrote: Ideas about why this is so busy? No. However, you could try to profile it to find out. Run it in ktrace(1) and/or do a gdb -attach to it's PID. Then start looking at the trace output to see what kind of library functions it's running in it's main event l

Re: Support for Intel P3500 PCIe SSD drive

2016-01-28 Thread Swift Griggs
On Thu, 28 Jan 2016, Derrick Lobo wrote: Trying this new toy and would to have support for it.. vendor 0x8086 product 0x0953 (Flash mass storage, interface 0x02, revision 0x01) at pci1 dev 0 function 0 not configured Personally, I've never seen these PCIe adapters work unless they implement a

Re: How to run Microsoft Internet Explorer on NetBSD?

2016-01-29 Thread Swift Griggs
On Fri, 29 Jan 2016, Mayuresh wrote: On Fri, Jan 29, 2016 at 11:31:17AM +0100, Jose Luis Rodriguez Garcia wrote: I need to use Internet Explorer for access a web from my company: www/ies4linux? [ I haven't used of late. ] That is a useful package, but it won't work if you are on NetBSD 7.0 AM

Re: How to run Microsoft Internet Explorer on NetBSD?

2016-01-29 Thread Swift Griggs
On Fri, 29 Jan 2016, Mayuresh wrote: This may be an OT. Nah, it's "user" related. Spot on the topic. :-) I don't think using i386 is a bad idea either, unless one has some specific reason to use amd64. I mostly agree with this sentiment. I recently switched to amd64. I gained nothing, at l

Re: How to run Microsoft Internet Explorer on NetBSD?

2016-01-29 Thread Swift Griggs
On Fri, 29 Jan 2016, Hal Murray wrote: The thing you get with 64 bits is pointers that work in more than 4 gigabytes of memory. Yes, of course, but with PAE that shouldn't be a problem. Of course, it appears that PAE is still considered experimental in NetBSD, since it's not enabled by defaul

Speaking of PAE

2016-01-29 Thread Swift Griggs
Can any of the kernel gods comment on if PAE is still considered unstable? It's hard to tell if it's disabled by default because it conflicts with the Xen memory model, or if it's because it causes stability issues. Can anyone in the know speak to that question? -Swift

Re: How to run Microsoft Internet Explorer on NetBSD?

2016-02-01 Thread Swift Griggs
On Sat, 30 Jan 2016, Jose Luis Rodriguez Garcia wrote: Does anyone tried a new version of citrix (not the one from pkgsrc) client in NetBSD? The so-called "Citrix Receiver" ? I've tried it using both Wine and Linux emulation. The Linux version was a huge pain. It segfaulted, whined about SSL

Re: How to run Microsoft Internet Explorer on NetBSD?

2016-02-01 Thread Swift Griggs
On Mon, 1 Feb 2016, Jose Luis Rodriguez Garcia wrote: It is still in pkgsrc : net/citrix_ica version 10.6.115659. Ugh. I forgot about that. I need to go back to i386. It fails for AMD64, but yeah, it's still a certificate trust-nightmare. I used to mildly dislike SSL before it was completel

SSL makes me crazy (was Re: How to run Microsoft Internet Explorer on NetBSD?)

2016-02-01 Thread Swift Griggs
On Mon, 1 Feb 2016, Hal Murray wrote: Without something like a chain-of-trust you don't know that your encrypted connection is going to the right site. I understand it's design purpose, but I disagree with where the design puts that trust. When it comes down to brass-tacks, do you trust Verisi

History behind pkgsrc 'biology' category

2016-02-05 Thread Swift Griggs
I am curious (only curious - this is not a complaint): Does anyone know why there ended up being a pretty well-fleshed-out 'biology' section in pkgsrc but there isn't "chemistry", "physics", "engineering" etc... Was there some prodigious pkgsrc maintainer/hacker who was a biologist or is it

GPT vs BSD-label

2016-02-08 Thread Swift Griggs
Can one use the BSD disklabel to fully replace a GPT or MBR table? I understand why folks want to move from MBR to GPT, but do the same reasons apply to BSD disklabels? In other words, is there any advantage to using GPT over BSD diskabels ? The only thing I can think of is that the partitio

Re: GPT vs BSD-label

2016-02-08 Thread Swift Griggs
On Mon, 8 Feb 2016, John Nemeth wrote: Standard BSD disklabels have the same limitation as MBRs as they use 32-bit numbers for partition start and size. I take it that there is more to it than that... ? I'm sure I'm over-simplifying, but simply changing the long to a int64_t I suppose has gre

Re: GPT vs BSD-label

2016-02-09 Thread Swift Griggs
On Tue, 9 Feb 2016, Christos Zoulas wrote: OpenBSD has done it. I've made the same code changes but I stopped just before committing because we have dozens of custom copies of disklabel code that would need to be adjusted and tested. Well, not like I have any authority, but I'd welcome that ch

Re: NetBSD-7.0 and mc in console

2016-02-10 Thread Swift Griggs
On Wed, 10 Feb 2016, Marco Beishuizen wrote: Can you take advantage of mc's "Learn keys" under its "Options" menu? I can't get to the options because I then need F9, which doesn't work. Sometimes escape-9 will do the same thing depending on your terminal settings, even when the F-keys don't w

Re: Installing packages with wildcards

2016-02-10 Thread Swift Griggs
On Wed, 10 Feb 2016, co...@sdf.org wrote: If you are me, you hate installing all the gstreamer plugins one at a time. Heck yea, I'm right there with you. Of course, I'd take it one step farther and call just about anything associated with Gnome annoying. I must be an alien, but if I am, I'm c

NetBSD wiki question

2016-02-11 Thread Swift Griggs
Folks, I used to contribute to the wiki.netbsd.se site. I also used to source/use several articles there for various tidbits and procedures. I found the site very helpful / useful. IIRC, there was some controversy over the whole thing. This page hints at some of that: https://wiki.netbsd.or

Re: Disconnect/connect usb ports

2016-02-18 Thread Swift Griggs
On Thu, 18 Feb 2016, Jose Luis Rodriguez Garcia wrote: The problem is very random. As you can suppose. Neither my pc ( a nettop) or my lapto have ground. I've had similar problems to the ones you and Felix describe. I was using a USB audio device with a fancy D/A converter. It'd get reset or s

Re: Exist operating systems that ship without blobs?

2016-02-19 Thread Swift Griggs
On Fri, 19 Feb 2016, Thor Lancelot Simon wrote: Never mind that OpenBSD's position is basically horseshit: they have not, after all, removed support for all devices which *have onboard firmware for which no source code is supplied*. . and this is emblematic of why I love NetBSD and didn't g

Re: ext2fs mount issue maybe just a temporary problem

2016-02-23 Thread Swift Griggs
On Tue, 23 Feb 2016, Carsten Kunze wrote: But I could test option "noatime" now and this works really well! Thank you! Just out of curiosity, since I also use ext2fs somewhat often, did you create the file system with NetBSD or with Linux? I've noticed a lot more problems when I create the fi

Linux emulation - chroot always?

2016-02-24 Thread Swift Griggs
When a Linux-binary runs, what does it "see" in terms of the root file system? So, for example, if I run 'ldconfig', does it see Linux libraries in /emul/linux/lib or just "/lib" ? Also, how does this play out when I want to run Linux binaries from my home directory? Ie.. if I wanted to run

Re: pf or npf?

2016-02-25 Thread Swift Griggs
On Thu, 25 Feb 2016, John Nemeth wrote: You didn't ask, but I'll add that the third option is ipfilter. It sits somewhere in the middle. It hasn't seen a lot of maintenance or enhancement lately, but it is still much newer then pf. Just FYI, the last version was 4.1.33 and was released 2013-0

Re: create keys and certificates for postfix/tls

2016-03-01 Thread Swift Griggs
On Mon, 29 Feb 2016, Martin Husemann wrote: I am currently using free certificates from StartSSL. Interesting that they even offer such a thing. I had to look them up. I looked at letsencrypt, but I couldn't make any sense of it - can somebody explain (from an admin point of view) how that is

Re: Qemu + tiny core linux = poor man's chromium on NetBSD

2016-03-01 Thread Swift Griggs
On Sat, 27 Feb 2016, Mayuresh wrote: What doesn't change is, whether you like it or not, you have no option but to work with such websites. Well, had that not been the case I'd use elinks almost everywhere... I feel the same way. I've used Chrome enough on other platforms to see that it's cle

Re: "No route to host" in Alpine

2016-03-02 Thread Swift Griggs
On Wed, 2 Mar 2016, Marco Beishuizen wrote: Could be I don't know. Is there a way to make try NetBSD IPv4 first? I'm not sure there is any way to change that. Something like "ifconfig inet6 down" might be cool, but doesn't work. It'll take down the whole interface (including ipv4). What you

Re: ZFS

2016-03-03 Thread Swift Griggs
On Thu, 3 Mar 2016, co...@sdf.org wrote: Someone on IRC implied that he is using ZFS. Still struggling to believe, so I gotta ask - is there anyone out there using it? I'm not. I never knew it got past the idea stage for NetBSD. It's listed on the projects page here: https://wiki.netbsd.org/

Re: ZFS

2016-03-03 Thread Swift Griggs
On Thu, 3 Mar 2016, Aaron B. wrote: Yes, NetBSD has these, but it's a lot easier on ZFS. As an example, I don't have to worry about shrinking or growing partitions, because they are all pulling space from a common pool. You are right and this is true. I wouldn't say it's "much" easier, but it

Re: bta2dpd - advanced audio distribution profile bluetooth daemon IMPROVED

2016-03-03 Thread Swift Griggs
On Fri, 4 Mar 2016, Nathanial Sloss wrote: Call for testers of the next installment of bta2dpd. Yay! Nice one. I'll test it out this week. It looks fun. It allows you to stream music or pad(4) output to bluetooth stereo headphones or speakers using the advanced audio distribution profile (a2

ssh-copy-id scriptae non grata?

2016-03-04 Thread Swift Griggs
Just a question. I know that 'ssh-copy-id' is just a dumb script you could write yourself or copy from another system. I know it's a 'contrib' item with openssh-portable. However. it's still kinda nice. Is there any chance of seeing that hit NetBSD ? If not, I'll just check the script i

SSD TRIM / "discard" works after a remount with mount -a?

2016-03-08 Thread Swift Griggs
I have a scenario where I have several NetBSD systems which were just upgraded to SSDs. I forgot to turn on discard (TRIM) support on the drives when I first put them in. So, here is my plan, anyone see a problem with my assumptions (FYI, these are all NetBSD 7 x86_64) ? 1. Edit /etc/fstab,

Re: SSD TRIM / "discard" works after a remount with mount -a?

2016-03-08 Thread Swift Griggs
On Tue, 8 Mar 2016, Benny Siegert wrote: I don?t think that?s a big deal. For the record, I have run my SSD without TRIM on NetBSD for a long while now. In fact, your email taught me about the ?discard? option :? Well, I have also on other systems. I've also read that some SSDs don't actually

Re: Reformatting little USB-harddisks

2016-03-08 Thread Swift Griggs
On Tue, 8 Mar 2016, Andrew Cagney wrote: One got ya! They can be slow to come online and may not be ready if you're trying to use or mount it during boot. This is especially slow for some reason on WD drives with SES. I have a 2TB WD USB3 drive for backups that has this issue. It's fine other

Any way to "passive commit" to RAM without syncing ?

2016-03-08 Thread Swift Griggs
I know NetBSD supports RAM disks. I also know it uses them for installation, but I'm not sure if they are overlays on top of the static disk images or if they get loaded/populated with the image after the system boots. The effect is the same, either way. You end up with a writable file system

Re: Any way to "passive commit" to RAM without syncing ?

2016-03-09 Thread Swift Griggs
On Tue, 8 Mar 2016, Hal Murray wrote: I had a setup for a while to keep working log files in RAM. I have forgotten the details. I have done something like that with XFS under Linux. The thing is, WAPBL logging doesn't seem to have an option (or perhaps I'm just ignorant of it) for doing logg

Re: Random lockups on an email server - possibly kern/50168

2016-03-19 Thread Swift Griggs
On Wed, 16 Mar 2016, D'Arcy J.M. Cain wrote: Can anyone suggest any other avenues to investigate? Have you tried running a kernel with DDB enabled ? If the machine will handle it, horsepower-wise, I'd turn on that and make sure all your debugging symbols are rolled up into your kernel image (

Per-user/group memory limits

2016-03-21 Thread Swift Griggs
I noticed this page: https://wiki.netbsd.org/projects/project/tmpfs-quotas/ Does that only apply to tmpfs (ie.. RAM disks) or would it be usable to limit total process memory usage by a given user? I'm just curious as to what portion of linux's "Control Groups" / "CGroups" is already present i

NetBSD's LVM works great for me

2016-03-22 Thread Swift Griggs
I've been using LVM under NetBSD now in 7.0 since the release. I have found it to be remarkably stable for such a newly implemented set of features. Maybe I just haven't been doing enough to beat on it. How possible/likely is it that NetBSD's LVM could get: * LVM caching devices ala Linux.

Silly shell question

2016-03-22 Thread Swift Griggs
In ksh, when you use the 'export' keyword, what is actually going on? Does it create a copy of the variable in memory? I doubt it since I tried a test and I could see the exported version changing even if I just change the original variable: # FOO=abc # export FOO # ksh # echo $FOO abc # exi

Re: Silly shell question

2016-03-22 Thread Swift Griggs
On Tue, 22 Mar 2016, Johnny Billquist wrote: Only environment variables are propagated to child processes. Thanks for the info, but do you happen to know what the actual mechanism that the child processes is able to "import" the exported variable ? Ie.. is it some special OS glue/magic, or is

Re: Silly shell question

2016-03-22 Thread Swift Griggs
On Tue, 22 Mar 2016, Jeremy C. Reed wrote: Yes just use getenv. See the manpage. I wouldn't call it a "client" but either a child or replacement. Got it. That makese sense. Johnny described it as "inheriting the environment" and that concept makes a lot of sense. The concept doesn't exist at

Re: Silly shell question

2016-03-23 Thread Swift Griggs
On Tue, 22 Mar 2016, Eric Haszlakiewicz wrote: The special OS glue/magic that happens is that the kernel takes the list of environment variables passed to the execve() system call, and copies them to the stack of the newly executing binary (kern_exec.c if you want to go look). Thank you, Eric

Re: NetBSD's LVM works great for me

2016-03-23 Thread Swift Griggs
On Wed, 23 Mar 2016, Stephen Borrill wrote: It's been around since the -6 era, so it's not that new. Ah, I see. For some reason, I never messed with it in 6.x. Sorry for the misinformation. I don't think any major development has been done on LVM since it was committed which is a shame as,

Re: slow disk in NetBSD-7.0 under qemu

2016-03-24 Thread Swift Griggs
On Thu, 24 Mar 2016, co...@sdf.org wrote: Hi, I'm running NetBSD-7.0 in qemu with host being Debian Linux. Disk operations are very slow (1MB/s unpacking local files, a bit better for the disk ones). It's totally un-accelerated. No kqemu or other kernel modules are available for NetBSD, AFAIK

linking issue - what am I doing wrong?

2016-03-25 Thread Swift Griggs
I'm doing some tutorials on Motif. I'm really just getting started. I'm doing something ignorant while linking and I'm not sure what it is. What happens is that I'm able to get Motif and Xtoolkit linked to my little test program, but the program won't run unless LD_LIBRARY_PATH is set. Yet ot

Re: linking issue - what am I doing wrong?

2016-03-25 Thread Swift Griggs
On Fri, 25 Mar 2016, Rhialto wrote: It looks like you need to give the runtime library path to the linker. See ld's -rpath option. Yep. J. Hannken-Illjes sent me a note about the same issue and I was able to make it work. Unfortunately different compilers have slightly different ways of spe

Re: linking issue - what am I doing wrong?

2016-03-25 Thread Swift Griggs
Some folks, who have had similar issues, asked what I ended up doing and if I'd post it. Here's the skinny: I was doing this: gcc -g -Wall -I/usr/pkg/include -I/usr/X11R7/include -lXm \ -L/usr/pkg/lib -o hello hello.c I switched it to this: gcc -Wl,-rpath,/usr/pkg/lib -Wl,

PAE + i7 + 24G RAM + i386 kernel = panic

2016-03-31 Thread Swift Griggs
I just took the GENERIC kernel, modified one line to enable PAE and then rebooted my i7 with 24G of RAM. I'm using NetBSD 7.0 i386. As soon as the bootloader passes off to the kernel, it crashes and drops into the debugger. Trying to do a 'bt' (backtrace) causes an instant-reboot. So, I reco

Re: PAE + i7 + 24G RAM + i386 kernel = panic

2016-04-01 Thread Swift Griggs
On Fri, 1 Apr 2016, Benny Siegert wrote: I just took the GENERIC kernel, modified one line to enable PAE and then rebooted my i7 with 24G of RAM. I'm using NetBSD 7.0 i386. This may not be the point, but: If you have that much RAM, why do you use a 32-bit kernel in the first place? I know wha

Re: Graphics wiki page

2016-04-05 Thread Swift Griggs
On Sun, 3 Apr 2016, co...@sdf.org wrote: > It would be more fruitful to provide a page where people list hardware > that works for them, http://dmesgd.nycbug.org is close. That's very cool. The idea, in general, reminds me of the supported hardware database for BeOS back in the day. I got a lot

Re: Graphics wiki page

2016-04-07 Thread Swift Griggs
On Thu, 7 Apr 2016, co...@sdf.org wrote: > Others have recommended using such a live image when purchasing hardware > like a laptop at a store. That is exactly what I do. I take a USB stick with a copy of NetBSD installed on it into the store and boot it up. Then I simply run startx and watch t

Re: scp dropping connections

2016-04-07 Thread Swift Griggs
On Thu, 7 Apr 2016, Christos Zoulas wrote: > >I attached gdb on sparc64 to sshd process and after 30 seconds got the > >following > Do you have a NAT/firewall and you don't have keep state in your pass rules? I've also seen misconfigured NIDS system that are setup for TCP "shootdown" (ie.. sendi

Prevent firefox from making noise

2016-04-20 Thread Swift Griggs
First of all, I love pkgsrc, and give hella credit to the team. Let's just get that straight before I start whining about what are possibly my own self-inflicted problems. Can one disable or prevent sound from playing from one specific application (at the OS level)? If not, then is there any wa

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