Re: [netmod] Questions on NMDA and "merged config and state"

2017-08-06 Thread Bogaert, Bart (Nokia - BE/Antwerp)
jacobs-university.de] Sent: Saturday, August 05, 2017 10:36 AM To: Bogaert, Bart (Nokia - BE/Antwerp) Cc: Andy Bierman ; netmod@ietf.org Subject: Re: [netmod] Questions on NMDA and "merged config and state" On Fri, Aug 04, 2017 at 07:03:43AM +, Bogaert, Bart (Nokia - BE/Antwerp) wr

Re: [netmod] Questions on NMDA and "merged config and state"

2017-08-05 Thread Juergen Schoenwaelder
On Fri, Aug 04, 2017 at 07:03:43AM +, Bogaert, Bart (Nokia - BE/Antwerp) wrote: > Maybe a stupid question from my side (I'm not involved in the NMDA work) > but is there some kind of consensus on what is proposed in this draft RFC or > are we miles away from such a consensus? Since this is l

Re: [netmod] Questions on NMDA and "merged config and state"

2017-08-04 Thread Andy Bierman
On Thu, Aug 3, 2017 at 11:29 PM, Juergen Schoenwaelder < j.schoenwael...@jacobs-university.de> wrote: > On Thu, Aug 03, 2017 at 10:06:23AM -0700, Andy Bierman wrote: > > > > So you are saying there is no such thing as an NMDA-compliant server. > > There are protocols that may use specific datastor

Re: [netmod] Questions on NMDA and "merged config and state"

2017-08-04 Thread Bogaert, Bart (Nokia - BE/Antwerp)
s-university.de] Sent: Friday, August 04, 2017 8:29 AM To: Andy Bierman Cc: Bogaert, Bart (Nokia - BE/Antwerp) ; netmod@ietf.org Subject: Re: [netmod] Questions on NMDA and "merged config and state" On Thu, Aug 03, 2017 at 10:06:23AM -0700, Andy Bierman wrote: > > So you are saying th

Re: [netmod] Questions on NMDA and "merged config and state"

2017-08-03 Thread Bogaert, Bart (Nokia - BE/Antwerp)
On Thu, Aug 3, 2017 at 12:49 AM, Juergen Schoenwaelder mailto:j.schoenwael...@jacobs-university.de> > wrote: On Thu, Aug 03, 2017 at 06:59:58AM +, Bogaert, Bart (Nokia - BE/Antwerp) wrote: > > Just to get confirmation on my assumptions: > > In section 4.7.3 the origin metadata does not inclu

Re: [netmod] Questions on NMDA and "merged config and state"

2017-08-03 Thread Juergen Schoenwaelder
On Thu, Aug 03, 2017 at 10:06:23AM -0700, Andy Bierman wrote: > > So you are saying there is no such thing as an NMDA-compliant server. > There are protocols that may use specific datastores in various ways. > Different protocols can have different behavior for the same datastore. > Sounds very fu

Re: [netmod] Questions on NMDA and "merged config and state"

2017-08-03 Thread Andy Bierman
On Thu, Aug 3, 2017 at 9:53 AM, Juergen Schoenwaelder < j.schoenwael...@jacobs-university.de> wrote: > On Thu, Aug 03, 2017 at 09:49:25AM -0700, Andy Bierman wrote: > > On Thu, Aug 3, 2017 at 9:32 AM, Juergen Schoenwaelder < > > j.schoenwael...@jacobs-university.de> wrote: > > > > > On Thu, Aug 03

Re: [netmod] Questions on NMDA and "merged config and state"

2017-08-03 Thread Juergen Schoenwaelder
On Thu, Aug 03, 2017 at 09:49:25AM -0700, Andy Bierman wrote: > On Thu, Aug 3, 2017 at 9:32 AM, Juergen Schoenwaelder < > j.schoenwael...@jacobs-university.de> wrote: > > > On Thu, Aug 03, 2017 at 09:18:10AM -0700, Andy Bierman wrote: > > > On Thu, Aug 3, 2017 at 12:49 AM, Juergen Schoenwaelder <

Re: [netmod] Questions on NMDA and "merged config and state"

2017-08-03 Thread Andy Bierman
On Thu, Aug 3, 2017 at 9:32 AM, Juergen Schoenwaelder < j.schoenwael...@jacobs-university.de> wrote: > On Thu, Aug 03, 2017 at 09:18:10AM -0700, Andy Bierman wrote: > > On Thu, Aug 3, 2017 at 12:49 AM, Juergen Schoenwaelder < > > j.schoenwael...@jacobs-university.de> wrote: > > > > > On Thu, Aug 0

Re: [netmod] Questions on NMDA and "merged config and state"

2017-08-03 Thread Juergen Schoenwaelder
On Thu, Aug 03, 2017 at 09:18:10AM -0700, Andy Bierman wrote: > On Thu, Aug 3, 2017 at 12:49 AM, Juergen Schoenwaelder < > j.schoenwael...@jacobs-university.de> wrote: > > > On Thu, Aug 03, 2017 at 06:59:58AM +, Bogaert, Bart (Nokia - > > BE/Antwerp) wrote: > > > > > > Just to get confirmation

Re: [netmod] Questions on NMDA and "merged config and state"

2017-08-03 Thread Andy Bierman
On Thu, Aug 3, 2017 at 12:49 AM, Juergen Schoenwaelder < j.schoenwael...@jacobs-university.de> wrote: > On Thu, Aug 03, 2017 at 06:59:58AM +, Bogaert, Bart (Nokia - > BE/Antwerp) wrote: > > > > Just to get confirmation on my assumptions: > > > > In section 4.7.3 the origin metadata does not in

Re: [netmod] Questions on NMDA and "merged config and state"

2017-08-03 Thread Juergen Schoenwaelder
On Thu, Aug 03, 2017 at 06:59:58AM +, Bogaert, Bart (Nokia - BE/Antwerp) wrote: > > Just to get confirmation on my assumptions: > > In section 4.7.3 the origin metadata does not include 'running' as origin > but only 'intended'. So it seems to be mandatory for a NC server to support > the i