Re: Updated disc cache

2015-04-09 Thread Harriet Bazley
On 3 Apr 2015 as I do recall, Vincent Sanders wrote: [snip] If you are feeling very adventurous you can report the bandwidth achieved. This is a line in the debug Log file held in scrap *after* the browser has been quit. The last line of the Log will read something like:

Re: Updated disc cache summary

2015-04-09 Thread Chris Newman
In article 55256ea0.8010...@netsurf-browser.org, Michael Drake t...@netsurf-browser.org wrote: On 08/04/15 12:41, Chris Newman wrote: So given all this, on my RiscPC Strong ARMv4 Adjust 4.39 with Unipod, to what should I set the Cache parameters in NetSurf Choices? Too slow to be

Re: Updated disc cache summary

2015-04-08 Thread Chris Newman
In article 20150408104544.gg18...@kyllikki.org, Vincent Sanders vi...@netsurf-browser.org wrote: Just to summarise the outcome of all the observations on the improved disc cache. The improvements make the cache viable on many more supported systems, including more RISC OS systems. On PC

Re: Updated disc cache summary

2015-04-08 Thread Michael Drake
On 08/04/15 12:41, Chris Newman wrote: So given all this, on my RiscPC Strong ARMv4 Adjust 4.39 with Unipod, to what should I set the Cache parameters in NetSurf Choices? Too slow to be useful. Set disc cache size to 0. -- Michael Drake http://www.netsurf-browser.org/

Re: Updated disc cache

2015-04-07 Thread Andrew Pinder
In message 20150403111441.gb18...@kyllikki.org on 3 Apr 2015 Vincent Sanders vi...@netsurf-browser.org wrote: I know several RISC OS users regularly use the CI builds and have had issues with the disc cache. This is partly a request for assistance and partly a warning. I have recently

Re: Updated disc cache

2015-04-07 Thread netsurf
In article 20150403135750.ge18...@kyllikki.org, Vincent Sanders vi...@netsurf-browser.org wrote: snip I suspect much of the delay for small files is due to checking, creating, and traversing directories! The depth was chosen so it would work on poor-quality file systems that

Re: Updated disc cache

2015-04-06 Thread Andrew Pinder
In message 54af215e1bch...@chris-johnson.org.uk on 4 Apr 2015 cj ch...@chris-johnson.org.uk wrote: In article 54aec5195fstuartli...@orpheusinternet.co.uk, lists stuartli...@orpheusinternet.co.uk wrote: Average bandwidth 355822 bytes/second NetSurf CI #2680 ARMX6 So nothing much to

Re: Updated disc cache

2015-04-06 Thread lists
In article e26e3db054.andrew-...@waitrose.com, Andrew Pinder andrew.pin...@tiscali.co.uk wrote: In article 54aec5195fstuartli...@orpheusinternet.co.uk, lists stuartli...@orpheusinternet.co.uk wrote: Average bandwidth 355822 bytes/second NetSurf CI #2680 ARMX6 So nothing much to

Re: Updated disc cache

2015-04-04 Thread Brian Jordan
In article 20150403111441.gb18...@kyllikki.org, Vincent Sanders vi...@netsurf-browser.org wrote: [Snip] If you are feeling very adventurous you can report the bandwidth achieved. [Snip] (152.54) content/llcache.c llcache_finalise 3352: Backing store average bandwidth 561256

Re: Updated disc cache

2015-04-04 Thread Brian
[snip] I would suggest that any of you using the disc cache to delete it before running a NetSurf CI version after #2696 NetSurf will continue to run just fine if you do not but all the old cache files will be left behind and never cleaned up. Is there a ',' or an '.' missing somewhere? The

Re: Updated disc cache

2015-04-04 Thread lists
In article 54af215e1bch...@chris-johnson.org.uk, cj ch...@chris-johnson.org.uk wrote: NetSurf CI #2680 ARMX6 So nothing much to write home about there, considering some of the hype surrounding the disc speed of the ARMX6. I'm not sure how much the download speed affects the results; I

Re: Updated disc cache

2015-04-04 Thread cj
In article 54aec5195fstuartli...@orpheusinternet.co.uk, lists stuartli...@orpheusinternet.co.uk wrote: Average bandwidth 355822 bytes/second NetSurf CI #2680 ARMX6 So nothing much to write home about there, considering some of the hype surrounding the disc speed of the ARMX6. --

Re: Updated disc cache

2015-04-03 Thread cj
In article 20150403111441.gb18...@kyllikki.org, Vincent Sanders vi...@netsurf-browser.org wrote: (2298.804881) content/llcache.c llcache_finalise 3352: Backing store average bandwidth 128324035 bytes/second Hells bells - you'll be lucky to a tenth of that speed on RISC OS hardware and

Re: Updated disc cache

2015-04-03 Thread David Pitt
Vincent Sanders, on 3 Apr, wrote: [snip - cache bandwidth] NetSurf 2696 RPi2 SDFS 6067 bytes/s RPi2 Fat32FS 15220 bytes/s Iyonix320252 bytes/s A9home509265 bytes/s VRPC W7 SSD 605771 bytes/s -- David Pitt

Re: Updated disc cache

2015-04-03 Thread David Pitt
cj, on 3 Apr, wrote: In article 20150403111441.gb18...@kyllikki.org, Vincent Sanders vi...@netsurf-browser.org wrote: The bandwidth line will be about 20 lines from the end of the log I restarted Netsurf with cache enabled on the Iyonix. Loaded up the ROOL forum. Message came up almost

Re: Updated disc cache

2015-04-03 Thread Rob Kendrick
On Fri, Apr 03, 2015 at 01:30:14PM +0100, nets...@avisoft.f9.co.uk wrote: In article 54ae82a927ch...@chris-johnson.org.uk, cj ch...@chris-johnson.org.uk wrote: I can see why RISC OS gets indigestion with the cache. Have just deleted the cache on the Iyonix, and there were over 21,000

Re: Updated disc cache

2015-04-03 Thread Jim Nagel
Vincent Sanders wrote on 3 Apr: If you are feeling very adventurous you can report the bandwidth achieved. This is a line in the debug Log file held in scrap *after* the browser has been quit. The last line of the Log will read something like: (2298.806358) desktop/netsurf.c netsurf_exit

Re: Updated disc cache

2015-04-03 Thread Vincent Sanders
On Fri, Apr 03, 2015 at 12:48:39PM +0100, Jim Nagel wrote: Vincent Sanders wrote on 3 Apr: If you are feeling very adventurous you can report the bandwidth achieved. This is a line in the debug Log file held in scrap *after* the browser has been quit. The last line of the Log will read

Re: Updated disc cache

2015-04-03 Thread cj
I can see why RISC OS gets indigestion with the cache. Have just deleted the cache on the Iyonix, and there were over 21,000 directories and over 19,000 files. -- Chris Johnson

Re: Updated disc cache

2015-04-03 Thread cj
In article 20150403111441.gb18...@kyllikki.org, Vincent Sanders vi...@netsurf-browser.org wrote: The bandwidth line will be about 20 lines from the end of the log I restarted Netsurf with cache enabled on the Iyonix. Loaded up the ROOL forum. Message came up almost immediately that the cache

Re: Updated disc cache

2015-04-03 Thread cj
I have now tried on the PandaBoard. Used random pages from the Daily Mail site (not much content if you are not interested in celebrates!). The first time I tried I fairly quickly ended up with the cache being disabled - the logged average speed was not much over 100 KB/s. However, I then reran

Re: Updated disc cache

2015-04-03 Thread lists
In article 20150403111441.gb18...@kyllikki.org, Vincent Sanders vi...@netsurf-browser.org wrote: If you are feeling very adventurous you can report the bandwidth achieved. This is a line in the debug Log file held in scrap *after* the browser has been quit. The last line of the Log will read

Re: Updated disc cache

2015-04-03 Thread David Pitt
cj, on 3 Apr, wrote: In article mpro.nm8dx001qojsl00l7.pit...@pittdj.co.uk, David Pitt pit...@pittdj.co.uk wrote: Hmm! My Iyonix did over three time better than that, and there was no too slow message. My test piece was http://www.dailymail.co.uk because that is a particularly heavy

Re: Updated disc cache

2015-04-03 Thread Vincent Sanders
On Fri, Apr 03, 2015 at 02:39:05PM +0100, cj wrote: In article mpro.nm8dx001qojsl00l7.pit...@pittdj.co.uk, David Pitt pit...@pittdj.co.uk wrote: Hmm! My Iyonix did over three time better than that, and there was no too slow message. My test piece was http://www.dailymail.co.uk because

Re: Updated disc cache

2015-04-03 Thread cj
In article mpro.nm8dx001qojsl00l7.pit...@pittdj.co.uk, David Pitt pit...@pittdj.co.uk wrote: Hmm! My Iyonix did over three time better than that, and there was no too slow message. My test piece was http://www.dailymail.co.uk because that is a particularly heavy duty site. OK. A lot of

Re: Updated disc cache

2015-04-03 Thread netsurf
In article 20150403131050.gq29...@platypus.pepperfish.net, Rob Kendrick r...@netsurf-browser.org wrote: On Fri, Apr 03, 2015 at 01:30:14PM +0100, nets...@avisoft.f9.co.uk wrote: In article 54ae82a927ch...@chris-johnson.org.uk, cj ch...@chris-johnson.org.uk wrote: I can see why RISC

Re: Updated disc cache

2015-04-03 Thread Vincent Sanders
snip I suspect much of the delay for small files is due to checking, creating, and traversing directories! The depth was chosen so it would work on poor-quality file systems that only allow a handful of entries in a directory, such as FileCore :) It is a shame that there is no

Re: Updated disc cache

2015-04-03 Thread Rob Kendrick
On Fri, Apr 03, 2015 at 03:13:17PM +0100, David Pitt wrote: I also think NetSurf's performance is severely hampered by the slow processors available to RISC OS. No, the CPUs are perfectly adequately fast. A Raspberry Pi can do many megabytes a second when running Linux. RISC OS's IO layer and