Updated disc cache

2015-04-03 Thread Vincent Sanders
I know several RISC OS users regularly use the CI builds and have had issues with the disc cache. This is partly a request for assistance and partly a warning. I have recently changed the disc based caching to use fewer small files. This change is not backwards compatible and will leave the old

Re: Updated disc cache

2015-04-03 Thread cj
In article 20150403111441.gb18...@kyllikki.org, Vincent Sanders vi...@netsurf-browser.org wrote: (2298.804881) content/llcache.c llcache_finalise 3352: Backing store average bandwidth 128324035 bytes/second Hells bells - you'll be lucky to a tenth of that speed on RISC OS hardware and

Re: Updated disc cache

2015-04-03 Thread David Pitt
Vincent Sanders, on 3 Apr, wrote: [snip - cache bandwidth] NetSurf 2696 RPi2 SDFS 6067 bytes/s RPi2 Fat32FS 15220 bytes/s Iyonix320252 bytes/s A9home509265 bytes/s VRPC W7 SSD 605771 bytes/s -- David Pitt

Re: Updated disc cache

2015-04-03 Thread David Pitt
cj, on 3 Apr, wrote: In article 20150403111441.gb18...@kyllikki.org, Vincent Sanders vi...@netsurf-browser.org wrote: The bandwidth line will be about 20 lines from the end of the log I restarted Netsurf with cache enabled on the Iyonix. Loaded up the ROOL forum. Message came up almost

Re: Updated disc cache

2015-04-03 Thread Rob Kendrick
On Fri, Apr 03, 2015 at 01:30:14PM +0100, nets...@avisoft.f9.co.uk wrote: In article 54ae82a927ch...@chris-johnson.org.uk, cj ch...@chris-johnson.org.uk wrote: I can see why RISC OS gets indigestion with the cache. Have just deleted the cache on the Iyonix, and there were over 21,000

Re: Updated disc cache

2015-04-03 Thread Jim Nagel
Vincent Sanders wrote on 3 Apr: If you are feeling very adventurous you can report the bandwidth achieved. This is a line in the debug Log file held in scrap *after* the browser has been quit. The last line of the Log will read something like: (2298.806358) desktop/netsurf.c netsurf_exit

Re: Updated disc cache

2015-04-03 Thread Vincent Sanders
On Fri, Apr 03, 2015 at 12:48:39PM +0100, Jim Nagel wrote: Vincent Sanders wrote on 3 Apr: If you are feeling very adventurous you can report the bandwidth achieved. This is a line in the debug Log file held in scrap *after* the browser has been quit. The last line of the Log will read

Re: Updated disc cache

2015-04-03 Thread cj
I can see why RISC OS gets indigestion with the cache. Have just deleted the cache on the Iyonix, and there were over 21,000 directories and over 19,000 files. -- Chris Johnson

Re: Updated disc cache

2015-04-03 Thread cj
In article 20150403111441.gb18...@kyllikki.org, Vincent Sanders vi...@netsurf-browser.org wrote: The bandwidth line will be about 20 lines from the end of the log I restarted Netsurf with cache enabled on the Iyonix. Loaded up the ROOL forum. Message came up almost immediately that the cache

Re: unreadably narrow column in rendering of page

2015-04-03 Thread J. F. Lemaire
On 31 March 2015 at 16:44, Jim Nagel nets...@abbeypress.co.uk wrote: These pages from local newspaper takes ages in the fetching-processing stage, and then finally displays its text in a pane that is too narrow to read.

Re: Updated disc cache

2015-04-03 Thread cj
I have now tried on the PandaBoard. Used random pages from the Daily Mail site (not much content if you are not interested in celebrates!). The first time I tried I fairly quickly ended up with the cache being disabled - the logged average speed was not much over 100 KB/s. However, I then reran

Re: unreadably narrow column in rendering of page

2015-04-03 Thread Vincent Sanders
On Tue, Mar 31, 2015 at 03:44:06PM +0100, Jim Nagel wrote: These pages from local newspaper takes ages in the fetching-processing stage, and then finally displays its text in a pane that is too narrow to read.

Re: Updated disc cache

2015-04-03 Thread lists
In article 20150403111441.gb18...@kyllikki.org, Vincent Sanders vi...@netsurf-browser.org wrote: If you are feeling very adventurous you can report the bandwidth achieved. This is a line in the debug Log file held in scrap *after* the browser has been quit. The last line of the Log will read

Re: Updated disc cache

2015-04-03 Thread David Pitt
cj, on 3 Apr, wrote: In article mpro.nm8dx001qojsl00l7.pit...@pittdj.co.uk, David Pitt pit...@pittdj.co.uk wrote: Hmm! My Iyonix did over three time better than that, and there was no too slow message. My test piece was http://www.dailymail.co.uk because that is a particularly heavy

Re: unreadably narrow column in rendering of page

2015-04-03 Thread David Pitt
J. F. Lemaire, on 3 Apr, wrote: On 31 March 2015 at 16:44, Jim Nagel nets...@abbeypress.co.uk wrote: These pages from local newspaper takes ages in the fetching-processing stage, and then finally displays its text in a pane that is too narrow to read.

Re: Updated disc cache

2015-04-03 Thread Vincent Sanders
On Fri, Apr 03, 2015 at 02:39:05PM +0100, cj wrote: In article mpro.nm8dx001qojsl00l7.pit...@pittdj.co.uk, David Pitt pit...@pittdj.co.uk wrote: Hmm! My Iyonix did over three time better than that, and there was no too slow message. My test piece was http://www.dailymail.co.uk because

Re: Updated disc cache

2015-04-03 Thread cj
In article mpro.nm8dx001qojsl00l7.pit...@pittdj.co.uk, David Pitt pit...@pittdj.co.uk wrote: Hmm! My Iyonix did over three time better than that, and there was no too slow message. My test piece was http://www.dailymail.co.uk because that is a particularly heavy duty site. OK. A lot of

Re: Updated disc cache

2015-04-03 Thread netsurf
In article 20150403131050.gq29...@platypus.pepperfish.net, Rob Kendrick r...@netsurf-browser.org wrote: On Fri, Apr 03, 2015 at 01:30:14PM +0100, nets...@avisoft.f9.co.uk wrote: In article 54ae82a927ch...@chris-johnson.org.uk, cj ch...@chris-johnson.org.uk wrote: I can see why RISC

Re: Updated disc cache

2015-04-03 Thread Vincent Sanders
snip I suspect much of the delay for small files is due to checking, creating, and traversing directories! The depth was chosen so it would work on poor-quality file systems that only allow a handful of entries in a directory, such as FileCore :) It is a shame that there is no

Re: Updated disc cache

2015-04-03 Thread Rob Kendrick
On Fri, Apr 03, 2015 at 03:13:17PM +0100, David Pitt wrote: I also think NetSurf's performance is severely hampered by the slow processors available to RISC OS. No, the CPUs are perfectly adequately fast. A Raspberry Pi can do many megabytes a second when running Linux. RISC OS's IO layer and