Re: The Left Needs a New Strategy

One policy/information gathering goal—a Left policy ask—is building a better measure of grassroots economic status (liberated from GDP, stock exchanges, and other statistics serving neoliberal ends). Like Brian and collaborators’ geography of alternative energy, we need a census of skills and

Re: The Left Needs a New Strategy

The List needs a new Topic On Tue, 19 Jan 2021 at 20:20, John Young wrote: > Dmitry yodelled: "the hand-shake deal I made with Pit and Geert over > swigs of Advocaat." > > Was that imbibery in Berlin? > > Neither P or G offered a deal or swig to a red-white-and-blue > bloodied visitor

Re: The Left Needs a New Strategy

Dmitry yodelled: "the hand-shake deal I made with Pit and Geert over swigs of Advocaat." Was that imbibery in Berlin? Neither P or G offered a deal or swig to a red-white-and-blue bloodied visitor honoraried and imported to be ignored on a stage facing circa 3-5 cell phone gazers in a vast

Re: The Left Needs a New Strategy

On Tue, Jan 19, 2021 at 6:51 AM Jean-Noël Montagné wrote: > > I don't see the end of the neoliberal period in the maelstrom which > gathers populists/Trump/Qanon activists. They still behave in a > conservative way: guns, religion, free-market capitalism, climate change > denial, covid harshness

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Re: The Left Needs a New Strategy

Is calling someone a “maosplainer” a symptom of white rage? Asking for a frenemy. Peter On Jan 18, 2021, at 11:18 AM, Dmytri Kleiner mailto:d...@telekommunisten.net>> wrote: On 2021-01-18 19:11, John Young wrote: "iterate forward" is promisingly constructive action. "Discover the truth

Re: The Left Needs a New Strategy

On 19/01/2021 17:29, Joseph Rabie wrote: > Here is a "guerrilla" tactic that might put an end to this. > > As many people as possible post to the thread. They mention words such > as "China", "Stalin", "Hong Kong", "Gulag", "Uyghur" in a vaguely > litigious manner. Since Dmytri apparently feels

Re: The Left Needs a New Strategy

Here is a "guerrilla" tactic that might put an end to this. As many people as possible post to the thread. They mention words such as "China", "Stalin", "Hong Kong", "Gulag", "Uyghur" in a vaguely litigious manner. Since Dmytri apparently feels obliged to reply (verbosely and repetitively) to

Re: The Left Needs a New Strategy

But yes, it sure would be great if over 50% of society would believe stuff like healthcare should be free, housing is a right, education should be available to all, etc. But wait! Billions of people already do, yeah some in the US, but billions in the global left, in China, Vietnam, North

Re: The Left Needs a New Strategy

Dmytri's position boils down to an absolute deference to "authentically oppressed peoples" (or the chinese state, which is curiously synonymous with the chinese people in his analysis) at the cost of unthinkingly eschewing all of those other bothersome and inconvenient oppressed peoples (Uyghurs,

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Re: The Left Needs a New Strategy

How about a strategy that goes through and beyond the envelopes of the states? Capitalism has been great at breaking barriers imposed by states in the name of commodified production and profit, creating a global economic system which calls itself "free" when it actually facilitates overdeveloped

Re: The Left Needs a New Strategy

On 2021-01-19 14:27, Bruce Robinson wrote: I agree with Andreas.  It is a far better example of Dmytri's much vaunted 'proletarian internationalism' to support those in China, and that the moment particularly Hong Kong, fighting for their rights against the repressive and anti-working class

Re: The Left Needs a New Strategy

I agree with Andreas.  It is a far better example of Dmytri's much vaunted 'proletarian internationalism' to support those in China, and that the moment particularly Hong Kong, fighting for their rights against the repressive and anti-working class regime.  I cannot see any reason why the

Re: The Left Needs a New Strategy

On 2021-01-19 07:16, Andreas Broeckmann wrote: However, as we all know, the government of China enjoys broad support from it's people. After all, by every measure they are doing better than we are in terms of getting what they want from their government. I'm not in the "we" group of your

Re: The Left Needs a New Strategy

Le 10/01/2021 à 06:15, Brian Holmes a écrit : The end of the neoliberal period has coincided with a symbolic reversal in politics: the torch of the partisan has passed from the insurgent Left of 1968 to the Qanon nationalists of today. This is a gigantic historical shift. [...] As the old