Re: Stormy weather?

2023-02-17 Thread mp
On 17/02/2023 17:24, Stefan Heidenreich wrote: winter is coming. what are your predictions? A wise woman once said, "...It is difficult to predict, especially the future". That is because the future is not yet cooked up, only the ingredients exist. Plant a tree, save a seed, grow some

Re: Stormy weather?

2023-02-16 Thread mp
Green transition? On 15/02/2023 15:06, Felix Stalder wrote: They are, as you say, the end of the neoliberal global order manifested by the breaking apart of Chimerica, and the accelerating decarbonization of the energy supply (which is happening, even if too late to avoid massive damage).

Re: Stormy weather?

2023-02-15 Thread mp
On 15/02/2023 00:45, Michael Benson wrote: (Why 'we' in quotes? Who're we, anyway? "We" are of course the free world - for context from today's paper see for instance: https://www.theguardian.com/world/2023/feb/15/revealed-disinformation-team-jorge-claim-meddling-elections-tal-hanan

Re: Stormy weather?

2023-02-14 Thread mp
War! On 13/02/2023 17:39, Felix Stalder wrote: On 13.02.23 08:45, Stefan Heidenreich wrote: - the defeat of NATO could lead to a "decolonization" of Western Europe (not that this by itself leads to positive results. Repressive "liberal" fascism remains as likely an outcome as some sort of

Re: Technopolitics of the future

2022-11-07 Thread mp
On 07/11/2022 18:59, Felix Stalder wrote: In the 20th century, in the West, there have been, as far as I can see, three ways of reacting to such 'total crises'. Fascism, Keynesian and 'war efforts'. For 6-7000 years the same approach to the basic social metabolism (i.e. food systems) has

Re: Technopolitics of the future

2022-10-24 Thread mp
On 24/10/2022 12:56, podinski wrote: re: mRNA developments One really shouldn't be surprised by these dismal achievements to " hack the body" and " under the skin surveillance" Was/is mRNA a scientific achievement or a political measure, bypassing already/anyway rather weak (read: corrupt)

Re: Biocultural Corridors

2022-08-23 Thread mp
On 23/08/2022 13:15, Brian Holmes wrote: When you say it makes the map "noisy" Simply that with all other apps closed and no noise from the google-teller, when I then open the map and click around, the beeping begins... Those are likely local issuesas as well as the map framework/design

Re: Biocultural Corridors

2022-08-23 Thread mp
Goodell wrote: Hi mp, This is a great idea. I hypothesise that: (1) People have no idea how much data they are sending to online services; (2) People have no idea how often their various devices (not only PCs and smartphones but also 'internet of things' devices) send data, even when the user

Re: Biocultural Corridors

2022-08-23 Thread mp
Great, thanks. Though, just for reference, this: sudo tcpdump -n -l dst net 192.0.2.1/32 $(for a in $(cat goog-prefixes.txt); do echo or dst net $a; done) | ./teller from here: https://github.com/berthubert/googerteller .. makes the map noisy: https://map.casariolab.art Ear opening

Re: The American theory of hybrid war

2022-03-15 Thread mp
On 15/03/2022 04:07, Brian Holmes wrote: Benson's question, When did this war begin? is profound. And the question, When's it going to end? will likely haunt us for a long time. On another level, perhaps, the fiction is the war/peace dichotomy/binary. Perhaps war is permanent and

Re: Almost zero

2022-02-26 Thread mp
On 26/02/2022 06:24, Brian Holmes wrote: Does anyone remember Vladislav Surkov, "managed democracy," "non-linear war"? Yes. This was also included in a "documentary" by Adam Curtis called 'HyperNormalisation' https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HyperNormalisation "“HyperNormalisation” is

Re: CfP: Critical reflections on pandemic politics: left-wing, feminist and anti-racist critiques

2022-01-20 Thread mp
On 20/01/2022 15:54, Florian Cramer wrote: > Any critical discussion ends here. Amen! ... .. . # distributed via : no commercial use without permission #is a moderated mailing list for net criticism, # collaborative text filtering and cultural politics of the nets # more info:

Re: The Dawn of Everything (very short review)

2021-12-09 Thread mp
ence, can be explained and performed in myriad ways. I cannot justly explain it here, just make gestures. Try the book, it is very informative. cheers/ciao/mp PS: - here's a few gestures for what it is worth: A scientist who, as you say, communicates about "...the destruction of species

Re: The Dawn of Everything (very short review)

2021-12-08 Thread mp
On 08/12/2021 18:02, Joseph Rabie wrote: > > I am really wary of terms like magic, beyond seeing them as a poetic > metaphors (helpful & useful, as such) for things that escape us, or > transcend us, or that are incomprehensible to us, even though they > are clearly there (consciousness, for

wary of terms like synthesis

2021-12-08 Thread mp
On 08/12/2021 18:13, Gary Hall wrote: > I'm really wary of terms like synthesis. A term with many definitions/connotations, which one gives you caution? Taking a look in OED's arrangement of possible meanings what comes closest to what I had in mind is 6b: "A body of things put together; a

Re: The Dawn of Everything (very short review)

2021-12-08 Thread mp
Thanks for this... On 06/12/2021 11:28, Felix Stalder wrote: > While the book is great, it has a glaring hole in it. What is almost > entirely missing is the discussion of how this "carnival parade" of > social forms structured the relation to the environment, or, more > generally, how they were

Re: Energy Dilemma

2021-11-06 Thread mp
On 06/11/2021 14:39, Heiko Recktenwald wrote: > Why dont you mention the nuclear option? Why is it taboo? Some people > say that it is too expensiv, but the energy is more or less CO2 free. I guess there is a somewhat slightly toxic substance involved with a half-time beyond human scale, for

Re: “Meta”

2021-11-02 Thread mp
On 02/11/2021 02:26, Brian Holmes wrote: > Alphabet was realistic. Meta looks desperate. I have the same impression as > you, Michael. It will come to nothing. Could this be more of a necessary share-holder reference/pointer, opening new doors and preparing a pathway to shed FB if it becomes

Re: deep humanities initiative

2021-04-25 Thread mp
On 25/04/2021 20:07, Brian Holmes wrote: > On Sun, Apr 25, 2021 at 10:53 AM Keith Sanborn wrote: > >> Interesting that at a time when planetary survival is in jeopardy, >> analysts shd return to a geological metaphor. Does history then equal >> stratigraphy? >> > > That is exactly the claim.

Re: Disassociation from Michel Bauwens

2021-03-13 Thread mp
Things are shifting, tectonic plates are sliding, sides are being chosen: https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/mar/12/far-right-open-source-technology-censorship Left and right (derived from the seating arrangements of two elitist factions centuries ago) have lost meaning and a fundamental

Re: Leaders of the Capitol insurrection

2021-01-27 Thread mp
On 23/01/2021 21:56, Brian Holmes wrote: > How did a chaotic, unprepared crowd get through police barriers to > invade the Capitol? It turns out they were led by determined ex-military > "Oath Keepers" (an ad hoc militia). By their own count they were "30-40" > (unconfirmed number). We all saw  

Re: The Left Needs a New Strategy

2021-01-19 Thread mp
On 19/01/2021 17:29, Joseph Rabie wrote: > Here is a "guerrilla" tactic that might put an end to this. > > As many people as possible post to the thread. They mention words such > as "China", "Stalin", "Hong Kong", "Gulag", "Uyghur" in a vaguely > litigious manner. Since Dmytri apparently feels

Re: The Left Needs a New Strategy

2021-01-17 Thread mp
On 17/01/2021 15:03, Dmytri Kleiner wrote: > I think the recent success of MAS in Boliva is instructive here. MAS, > from what I understand, is not the movement, but rather it is referred > to as "the instrument" of the movement. Even short of a Coup like the > one against Morales,

Re: made for TV, made for social media

2021-01-09 Thread mp
On 09/01/2021 04:52, v...@voyd.com wrote: >   > Yes, there were people like the guy in the fur hat who apparently is the > son of a judge, but I'm following up on that claim. This guy? https://gen.medium.com/the-q-shaman-conspirituality-goes-rioting-on-capitol-hill-24bac5fc50e6 # distributed

Re: made for TV, made for social media

2021-01-08 Thread mp
On 08/01/2021 16:13, Geert Lovink wrote: > Good question, Keith. > > Was it a putch without a purpose of a mob without a cause? For sure they were > all revved up, dazed by meme magick and shit, looking for the best selfie > opportunity. > > Once we enter the heart of the power, and roam

Re: made for TV, made for social media

2021-01-08 Thread mp
On 08/01/2021 04:07, Keith Sanborn wrote: > Dear John, > > There is a difference between a fascist coup attempt lead from above and > a mass insurrection. ... when you put it like that, it sounds like there is a difference. Does that mean that poor, white Americans have no sense of the

Re: why is it so quiet (in the US)

2020-11-13 Thread mp
On 13/11/2020 10:07, Eric Kluitenberg wrote: > Hi Felix, all, > > The post-election situation in the US is very worrying in many respects. > > The darkest scenario, a slow coup d’etat against a clear election result has > been suggested to me by several friends over the past few days. Barton

Re: Not One

2020-10-15 Thread mp
--- if you don't know it, condemned to repeat it, farce, tragedy and collapse: On 12/10/2020 10:45, John Young wrote: > >> So long as heirarchical structures endure, with the few managing the >> many from any ideological or intellectual top down control, it is >> unlikely much will change for

Re: Not One

2020-10-10 Thread mp
On 10/10/2020 19:45, Keith Sanborn wrote: > Again the "always already.” > > What if fascism is not a mask? The voices of the dead should be listened to. Waves and particle, apples and oranges. My way, your way, anything goes tonight. Zygmunt Bauman, who is dead and spend considerable time

Re: Not One

2020-10-10 Thread mp
On 10/10/2020 16:37, Brian Holmes wrote: > > So in the end, I agree with Zak a lot more than I thought at first, but > still not entirely. You ought to post more often, Zak. > > Solidarity, Brian I don't know what Zak meant exactly and there are certainly immediate, good reasons to vote for

Re: discussing zoom fatigue

2020-07-07 Thread mp
On 06/07/2020 14:47, podinski wrote: > Susan Greenfield has been doing some interesting work on this... long > before Covid19. First encountered her work thru Jore Brown's doc Stare > Into The Lights My Pretties (2017) : > > https://stareintothelightsmypretties.jore.cc/ > > which focuses on

Re: forget about Agamben

2020-03-22 Thread mp
On 22/03/2020 11:33, Allan Siegel wrote: > Last winter 8000 people died in Italy as a consequence of lung > complications due to influenza, mostly the elderly.  This year, > with coronavirus, the death rate will probably rise to something > between 20 and 25 thousand, three times the “normal”

Re: Should use mobile phone data to monitor public health

2020-03-18 Thread mp
On 18/03/2020 09:20, Felix Stalder wrote: > Is it likely that we manage to enact these? No. But simply calling for > the protection of personal privacy, or accepting the general state of > emergency, will be even worse. Perhaps attempt to (re)generate trust, collective intelligence and

Re: Facebook

2019-11-04 Thread mp
On 03/11/2019 20:36, Alan Sondheim wrote: > > The loss is more important to me > On Sun, 3 Nov 2019, Frederic Neyrat wrote: >> 1/ FB enables to create a "community," that's good for sure;? >> 2/ but in the same time, it destroys?the condition of the possibility of >>

Re: Wash Post: Greta Thunberg weaponized shame in an era of shamelessness

2019-10-02 Thread mp
On 02/10/2019 03:13, Molly Hankwitz wrote: > It seems I really messed up regarding GTs effects upon the US in her visit > here. I think she’s great. Obviously, she is impactful and plays a role in > discussions elsewhere. > > Clearly living in a miasma of spectacle. Here's a deep

Re: from Meatloaf to penalty Shoot Outs

2019-08-25 Thread mp
On 23/08/2019 12:56, Michael Guggenheim wrote: > I beg to disagree, and I would love to invite you to a trip to > Switzerland, where indeed referenda are held 4 times a year on all kinds > of things, from deciding whether to build a new school or (infamously) > whether to ban minarets.

Re: Guardian Live on Assange's arrest

2019-04-11 Thread mp
Ecuador changed government. Old government's networks of cream skimming were focused on China. New government wants to establish its own flows of cash corruption, so they return to the old sugar daddy, USA. Getting back in to favourable trade relations costs some thing. Assange is a thing.

Re: rage against the machine

2019-03-24 Thread mp
On 24/03/2019 06:29, Joseph Rabie wrote: > I find it noteworthy that the call to burn at the stake, opposed by > Andreas, has been endorsed by male members of this list. Let us remember > that it was invented as retribution against women accused of witchcraft, > that is to say practises

Re: Bullshit as emergent phenomenon (Re: Julia Ebner: Stop the online conspiracy theorists before they break democracy (Guardian))

2019-02-19 Thread mp
On 19/02/2019 02:57, Morlock Elloi wrote: > to which we meekly subject to demonstrate compliance. What word shall we > use for facts? What are facts anyway? Useful for building washing machines and cars? Eternal truths? For who? 'Facts' and the notion of them that you seem to be chasing are

Re: John Naughton on Shoshana Zuboff: 'The goal is to automate us': welcome to the age of surveillance capitalism

2019-01-25 Thread mp
On 25/01/2019 13:09, carlo von lynX wrote: > But there is a more urgent problem that grows on top of > surveillance capitalism. It is our inability to exercise > democracy properly, and therefore to soon lose the ability > to make any such legislation. So we must stop to focus on > surveillance

Re: John Naughton on Shoshana Zuboff: 'The goal is to automate us': welcome to the age of surveillance capitalism

2019-01-25 Thread mp
On 25/01/2019 12:39, Patrice Riemens wrote: > John Naughton > The Observer/Guardian, Sun 20 Jan 2019 > > We’re living through the most profound transformation in our information > environment since Johannes Gutenberg’s invention of printing in circa > 1439. cave paintings, grain as taxable

Re: The Geert thing

2018-12-13 Thread mp
On 13/12/2018 08:51, Tilman Baumgärtel wrote: > Is nettime again turning into the exclusive platform of some entity with > a name from a science fiction novel, who thinks that he has something > insightful to say about just about everything? Only if you compulsively must read every entry in

Re: Interview with Richard Stallman in New Left Review (September-October 2018)

2018-11-01 Thread mp
On 01/11/2018 08:00, Carsten Agger wrote: > So yes: Software should be available free of charge - and, on the other > hand, those who can should take part in its funding, because with no > funding it won't happen. Software can only be used if you have access to hardware. Hardware can - at

Re: Interview with Richard Stallman in New Left Review (September-October 2018)

2018-10-31 Thread mp
On 30/10/2018 23:21, André Rebentisch wrote: > Ironically no one frames Facebook contributions as "unpaid voluntary > work" to keep the community platform content-wise up and running to the > benefit of Mr. Zuckerberg's advertisement business model. Did you mean to write "everyone frames"?

Re: Identity and difference

2018-10-26 Thread mp
On 26/10/2018 13:34, Alexander Bard wrote: > Class was lost in all this. And as a Deleuzian .. sounds like an identity? # distributed via : no commercial use without permission #is a moderated mailing list for net criticism, # collaborative text filtering and cultural politics of the

Re: Unlocking Proprietorial Systems for Artistic Practice | By Marc Garrett.

2018-07-08 Thread mp
On 07/07/18 13:24, Florian Cramer wrote: >> >> And yet ... by nearly every agreed-upon measure, the "cultural, >> political and economic systems in place" have contributed to what can be >> called--with equal understatement--a significant reduction in global >> poverty rates. A 74% reduction

Re: Anger in the Developed World

2018-07-02 Thread mp
On the issue of "anger" I've been enjoying Pankaj Mishra's rather ranty book (he is clearly working through his own): https://www.penguin.co.uk/books/297618/age-of-anger/ Any comments on the book, anyone? On 02/07/18 17:00, Brian Holmes wrote: > [ The following article from Project Syndicate

Re: The System Development Corporation

2018-03-14 Thread mp
On 13/03/18 23:26, Morlock Elloi wrote: >> What do you mean by "confronting on an infrastructure level" and >> "liberating the infrastructure"? Sure, one thing is to understand the > > 1. Requiring equal access to switches and fiber. Like cities (most so > far) cannot have private streets, and

Tharoor? // was: Re: Shree Paradkar: When will there be a film on Winston Churchill..

2018-03-13 Thread mp
On 13/03/18 04:39, Prem Chandavarkar wrote: > In a similar vein: > https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/global-opinions/wp/2018/03/10/in-winston-churchill-hollywood-rewards-a-mass-murderer/?utm_term=.61f5a658e188 > >

Re: The System Development Corporation

2018-03-13 Thread mp
On 12/03/18 22:50, Morlock Elloi wrote: > Using acoustic waves through the air as the carrier is definitely > confronting at the infrastructure level :) > >> And then something really radical: talk to your neighbour, come out of Oh, so you give into the idea of human resources? :) Well, I beg

Re: The System Development Corporation

2018-03-12 Thread mp
On 12/03/18 17:27, Morlock Elloi wrote: > The old-fashioned way, by confronting at the infrastructure level, away > from keyboards. Messaging through the adversarial infrastructure is like > drawing graffiti on the enemy tanks - cute but doesn't do s*it. Confrontation is good for the system,

Re: John Perry Barlow R.I.P.

2018-02-14 Thread mp
On 08/02/18 13:41, Douglas Rushkoff wrote: > Oh shoot. > approach just opened it to the corporations who poured in. But I > think it was hard to see that coming, particularly for the early > libertarians of the net, who thought small and local business would > be favored in such a seemingly a

Re: Mechanical Turkish

2018-01-31 Thread mp
On 30/01/18 10:34, Dmytri Kleiner wrote: > > On 2018-01-29 22:40, Brian Holmes wrote: > >> The urgent question today is how to >> create collective forms of democratic government for complex societies >> captivated by the myth of the sovereign individual. > > Read C.B. Macpherson? For those

Re: Constitutioanl radicalism

2017-10-13 Thread mp
On 13/10/17 17:59, Brian Holmes wrote: > On 10/13/2017 05:09 AM, Patrick Lichty wrote: >> Has the United states, and a large part of Western thought become so >> warped by populism and anti intellectualism (which is a complex and >> stack in itself) that individuals seeking a humane, objective

Re: Return to feudalism

2017-09-18 Thread mp
On 19/09/17 00:18, Frederic Janssens wrote: > On 18 September 2017 at 22:28, mp <m...@aktivix.org> wrote: > >> >> >> and from the thesis where these quotes feature: >> >> Interesting. Has this thesis a name, an author, and is it available ? “Property, C

Re: Return to feudalism

2017-09-18 Thread mp
On 18/09/17 00:58, Morlock Elloi wrote: > Using the concept of property is legitimate and effective action. It > exists, is enforced, works, and however biased it may be, or however > odious one may think it is (alternative being ... ?), it is far too > ingrained into the society to be 100%

Re: [spectre] the EU's first rogue state

2017-08-14 Thread mp
Indeed, nuclear war is a permanent feature affecting the entire planet: it's called testing (when it's the military; visualised here, commencing somewhat calmly, but then picks up pace): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LLCF7vPanrY ) and chemo therapy (when it's pharma). On 14/08/17 11:19, Keith

Re: In Praise of Cash (or just another luddite nationalist

2017-03-03 Thread mp
On 03/03/17 02:23, Alexander Bard wrote: > But from a leftist perspective this of coursea lso means a massive > loss of taxation coming to mind. In the future, mind you, not in the > past. Where we then see history repeat itself all over again: Capital > constantly beats The Left by in itself

Re: Steven Levy: Joi Ito Explains Why Donald Trump Is Like

2016-12-08 Thread mp
On 08/12/16 01:46, Patrice Riemens wrote: Joi Ito: > It’s about working class empowerment. This election was more > like the Arab Spring than it was like some well-orchestrated, > well-designed political maneuver. The thing about people in such power positions is that they are often ignorant -

Re: Franco Berardi & Geert Lovink: Zero Work is the

2016-10-28 Thread mp
On 27/10/16 13:03, Morlock Elloi wrote: > Isn't it symptomatic that keyboard activities are mostly being > prosecuted in areas with less advanced technological, political and > control structures? There also must be some backward countries where > they still imprison poets. > > In the first

'We need laws for cyberweapons'

2016-07-08 Thread mp
Guardian writes: "Alex Gibney on Stuxnet film Zero Days: 'We need laws for cyberweapons' His latest documentary lays bare the story of the Stuxnet worm, a groundbreaking virus jointly created by the US and Israel. Here the acclaimed film-maker discusses the pervasive threat posed by this new age

Re: Renewed Tyranny of Structurelessness (was: rise and

2016-06-11 Thread mp
y exploding into smithereens available for new forces of attraction? The last thing the world needs is more bloody institutions - let's first burn the current ones to the ground, before building new ones, lest they be sucked up and rendered fuel for elite machinery. Perhaps something interestin

Re: notes from the DIEM25 launch

2016-02-13 Thread mp
On 13/02/16 11:29, Felix Stalder wrote: > crisis in Europe is a crisis of democracy and not one of money. > Europe still is one of the richest, best resourced regions on the > globe. can you elaborate (which resources, measured how)? m # distributed via : no commercial use without

Re: Vice > Peter Sunde > I Have Given Up

2015-12-13 Thread mp
On 12/12/15 23:04, Jonathan Marshall wrote: > Morlock: > >> Equating 'freedom' with 'right' to consume unpaid commercial >> content was the biggest meme hijack of the decade. It reminds of >> the sinister side of some hippie communities, where 'free love' was >> used to excuse rape. > > I'd say

Re: Worldwide Travel Alert: Go back to sleep America

2015-11-24 Thread mp
As Bill Hicks is rolling with laughter in his grave, we turn to Foreign Policy for the sane [sic] view: "...the threat is already inside": https://foreignpolicy.com/2015/11/20/the-threat-is-already-inside-uncomfortable-truths-terrorism-isis/ "Right-wing extremists in the United States still

Re: nettime Hacked Team

2015-07-20 Thread mp
On 20/07/15 11:02, Jaromil wrote: On Sun, 19 Jul 2015, morlockel...@yahoo.com wrote: The shift I mentioned is the shift from being managed/herded by a relatively large number of humans, to being managed/herded by a large number of machines controlled by a small number of humans, and the

Re: nettime The Greek elections?

2015-01-28 Thread mp
On 28/01/15 02:44, Flick Harrison wrote: The militant nationalism that Tsipras displayed by visiting the Resistance memorial makes me think Syriza is stupid, or talking to the stupid. The fascist threat isn't rolling into Greece in panzers; it's a few inches to the right of

Re: nettime Ubiquitous Commons and Stakhanov at transmediale in

2015-01-23 Thread mp
history, what embodiment and whose ideology do you refer to? mp # distributed via nettime: no commercial use without permission # nettime is a moderated mailing list for net criticism, # collaborative text filtering and cultural politics of the nets # more info: http://mx.kein.org/mailman

Re: nettime Ubiquitous Commons and Stakhanov at transmediale in

2015-01-21 Thread mp
to things, or, as it were, their property rights; e.g: http://www.commoner.org.uk/index.php?p=107 2c/mp # distributed via nettime: no commercial use without permission # nettime is a moderated mailing list for net criticism, # collaborative text filtering and cultural politics of the nets

Re: nettime Backstabbing can make you feel 'dirty'

2014-09-26 Thread mp
On 23/09/14 17:27, John Hopkins wrote: On 23/Sep/14 02:44, nettime's avid reader wrote: Backstabbing can make some feel 'dirty,' says new study Indeed, no news there: There's room at the top they're telling you still But first you must learn how to smile as you kill If you want to be like

nettime We shape our buildings, and afterwards our buildings shape us.

2014-07-25 Thread mp
On 25/07/14 16:05, nettime's de-terminator wrote: You probably recall the phrase, We shape our tools and, thereafter, our tools shape us. It is often attributed to Marshall McLuhan but, in fact, it was suggested by John Culkin, SJ, who is the one who invited McLuhan to Fordham

Re: nettime control and monopolies on the web, all slaves from Moore's Law

2014-05-18 Thread mp
Education: --- mind control Academia knowledge control ? On 16/05/14 23:01, Eduardo wrote: Control and monopolies on the web: all slaves from Moore's Law Facebook - network control Google - search control (they

Re: nettime tensions within the bay area elites

2014-05-12 Thread mp
On 12/05/14 03:00, Brian Holmes wrote: Doctorow is a somewhat different story, no? He may get himself flown around the world to give talks, but he is not a full-fledged member of this newly dominant class - all the more so since he seems to identify himself at least partially with those on

Re: nettime Will your insurance company subsidize your quantified self?

2014-04-14 Thread mp
like heart rate, ---and of course wearing a wifi/gps device is really good for you. -mp # distributed via nettime: no commercial use without permission # nettime is a moderated mailing list for net criticism, # collaborative text filtering and cultural politics of the nets # more info

Re: nettime Hans Magnus Enzensberger: Rules for the digital world

2014-03-11 Thread mp
On 10/03/14 15:32, Armin Medosch wrote: is clearly old capital against new capital - the enemy is Google. so, old capital is a bad thing and new capital is a bad thing, or what's the moral of this? or speaking against new capital from the platform of old capital is bad? or anything bad about

Re: nettime a free letter to the creative commons and for the consideration

2013-12-01 Thread mp
supporting corporate ownership in what you call the tangible or material realm. it confuses people and distracts from the the real issue at hand, which is not some bits, bytes and other code, but something material: housing, heating, eating and spaces to play in the sun, wind and rain. mp # distributed

Re: nettime The secret financial market only robots can see

2013-09-30 Thread mp
On 29/09/13 14:34, newme...@aol.com wrote: It is the machines that are *spying* on us -- not humans. It is the machines that are taking our jobs -- not humans (now that wage arbitrage is declining). So if we switch them off, all associated problems go away? As George Dyson

Re: nettime Phil Agre: Supporting the Intellectual Life of a Democratic Soc...

2013-09-21 Thread mp
On 20/09/13 19:20, newme...@aol.com wrote: Nettime: Citizens would grow up accustomed to having a public voice, to receiving intellectual responses from others, and to articipating in a global intellectual culture. The cultural conditions of democratic intellectual life will have been

Re: nettime has the time for an alternative to ted talk videos finally come?

2013-04-17 Thread mp
further to this: TED Talks accused of censorship over Graham Hancock and Rupert Sheldrake lectures: http://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/lifestyle/technology-gadgets/ted-talks-accused-of-censorship-over-graham-hancock-and-rupert-sheldrake-lectures-29186941.html The War on Consciousness - Graham

Re: nettime Is the collaborative economy only for the privileged?

2013-03-13 Thread mp
On 13/03/13 00:52, Morlock Elloi wrote: This is a natural extension of in-house corporate brainwashing of employees (disbursing faith as part of remuneration in lieu of cash) into precarious we-are-all-freelancers marketplace. ... and an encouragement, if not amplification of the

Re: nettime The Vegetative Prince Will Not Wake Up: Dutch Prince Friso medical ethics and the ordeal of social inequality

2012-08-27 Thread mp
On 25/08/12 22:28, martin hardie wrote: The liberal Dutch laws did result in over two thousand people being killed without their permission in the first two years of its operation according to a Dutch government report. There its another dark side to the right to death debate that many

Re: nettime Eric X. Li: Democracy Is Not the Answer..

2012-07-15 Thread mp
On 13/07/12 17:36, Flick Harrison wrote: MP, Instead of just attacking me and democracy, why not say what you think about China, the topic at hand? Are you defending their ruling system, or just attacking straw men (i.e. people defending capitalism here)? Do you see democracy

Re: nettime Eric X. Li: Democracy Is Not the Answer..

2012-07-12 Thread mp
exercises in the name of theoretical sophistication, then the war is lost and the consciousness of change has been domesticated, precisely as noted above: their UNIFIED agenda has ALWAYS been the primary source of funding for intellectual labor. mp PS: Ideological = church ... I thought

Re: nettime rise and decline of Google

2012-03-17 Thread mp
On 16/03/12 13:20, Richard Grusin wrote: Given that FairSearch is a consortium of such corporate giants as Microsoft, Travelocity, and TripAdvisor, perhaps they might want to fund some anti-Google alternatives. The enemy of my enemy .. is also my enemy. # distributed via

Re: nettime The $100bn Facebook question: Will capitalism survive 'value ab...

2012-03-07 Thread mp
tend to agree as far as language facilitates such potential at all. Conversely, what words can really signify the shit we're in? mp # distributed via nettime: no commercial use without permission # nettime is a moderated mailing list for net criticism, # collaborative text filtering

Re: nettime Who are the virtual murderers of Gaddafi?

2011-10-29 Thread mp
Did anyone notice that Clinton arrived in Libya on a surprise visit during which she took part in an assembly and also stated that the U.S. was now behind killing Gaddafi - a few days later he was dead...?!? On 27/10/11 19:44, Tjebbe van Tijen wrote: Who are the virtual murderers of Gaddafi?