Re: Constitutioanl radicalism

2017-10-14 Thread Johnatan Petterson
oh thanks for the information(s) i felt like we were doing it in the list 'right here & now' (the design, and fractured cultural specific situation methodologies) that might be 'aesthetic experience' lapses, which prooves yur right, & we 've passed beyond the perimeters, left infinite speed. i don'

Re: RIP Michael Gurstein

2017-10-14 Thread Molly Hankwitz
Ted Sad to hear this. He was a very warm and inviting editor - very nice man - who asked me to peer review articles for the Journal of Communiy Informatics. Molly On Sat, Oct 14, 2017 at 4:11 PM t byfield wrote: > I'm sad to pass this news on. > > T > > < https://www.facebook.com/gurstein/po

Re: RIP Michael Gurstein

2017-10-14 Thread Alan Sondheim
Oh hell, Ted. I worked with him in Cape Breton and elsewhere in NS on Wiring Nova Scotia; we were close until he moved west. We worked together in Sydney; it was wonderful and necessary work. I hadn't heard from him in a while. Thank you for passing this on. He was amazing. Best, Alan On

RIP Michael Gurstein

2017-10-14 Thread t byfield
I'm sad to pass this news on. T < https://www.facebook.com/gurstein/posts/10155671874752457 > Michael Gurstein October 2, 1944 - October 8, 2017 Michael Gurstein was born on October 2, 1944 in Edmonton, Alberta, Canada to Emanuel (Manny) and Sylvia Gurstein. While still an infant, the famil

Re: Constitutioanl radicalism

2017-10-14 Thread Eric Kluitenberg
Hello Johnatan, Maybe I should not have included that phrase on the infinity of art / techno-science / advanced capitalism, as it distracts from the main point about the necessity of a deep engagement in deliberate acts of political design, and a shift from ‘revolutionary’ tactics to methodolo

Re: The Looming Impossibility of the Present

2017-10-14 Thread Peter ciccariello
Even that brutality is resilient. Sent from my iPad > On Oct 14, 2017, at 11:43 AM, Alan Sondheim wrote: > > the opposite realization, that life is not resilient at all... # distributed via : no commercial use without permission #is a moderated mailing list for net criticism, # collaborat

Re: The Looming Impossibility of the Present

2017-10-14 Thread Alan Sondheim
For me, this depends on whose future, not an abstracted one, but one within which genocide all too easily inheres, where the extinction of a species is absolute; a few years ago Johannes Birringer and I co-moderated a discussion on empyre on absolute terror which centered, for me, around scor

Re: Constitutioanl radicalism

2017-10-14 Thread Brian Holmes
On 10/14/2017 03:01 AM, Keith Hart wrote: The shift to deconstruction and construction presumes, to my mind, that the question of homo duplex has been resolved and I don't think it has. This confusion allows individuals to propose their own judgments as social solutions without examining how th

Re: The Looming Impossibility of the Present

2017-10-14 Thread Peter ciccariello
This is brilliant. Thanks Ian Alan Paul. I would like to share it? > On Oct 14, 2017, at 10:04 AM, Ian Alan Paul wrote: > > And so here we are. In the present, the new normal. In a situation that feels > just as quotidian as it does impossible. > > With my coffee I read of fires in California

The Looming Impossibility of the Present

2017-10-14 Thread Ian Alan Paul
And so here we are. In the present, the new normal. In a situation that feels just as quotidian as it does impossible. With my coffee I read of fires in California and I scroll through friends' facebook posts debating which filters and breathing masks are best to buy. I read of the news from Puert

Re: Constitutioanl radicalism

2017-10-14 Thread Johnatan Petterson
hello Eric. why not to call 'design' subversive input and outright denying of anything, or rather B.Latour would say, 'visualize' them. by design or by art-techno-science and advanced capitalism? i ask because these last three categories do not make sense, they are not detailed to a symbolic meanin

Re: Constitutioanl radicalism

2017-10-14 Thread Eric Kluitenberg
Dear felix, Brian, Keith, Just a few notes here as comments on this discussion and the question of how to translate into "a political, social and cultural practice” that felix raised. Though I have critiqued Latour’s Thing politics in the “reDesigning Affect Space” essay also posted here a week

Fwd: Constitutioanl radicalism

2017-10-14 Thread Keith Hart
On Sat, Oct 14, 2017 at 12:19 PM, Felix Stalder wrote: > > I think Latour's answer (and I would largely agree with him) is that > it's precisely the individual-society divide that its problematic, > first, because neither can exists without the other and, second, because > it implies that these t

Re: Constitutioanl radicalism

2017-10-14 Thread Felix Stalder
On 2017-10-14 12:01, Keith Hart wrote: > Are we sure that privileging the social has served or will serve > humanity well? The shift to deconstruction and construction presumes, to > my mind, that the question of homo duplex has been resolved and I don't > think it has. I think Latour's answer (

Re: Constitutioanl radicalism

2017-10-14 Thread Keith Hart
On Sat, Oct 14, 2017 at 10:40 AM, Felix Stalder wrote: > > >>On 2017-10-14 03:30, Brian Holmes wrote: > > > "Has critique run out of steam?" asked Bruno Latour around ten years > > ago. It was a significant question. > > I think there are two ways to address this question. > > One relates more

Re: Constitutioanl radicalism

2017-10-14 Thread Felix Stalder
On 2017-10-14 03:30, Brian Holmes wrote: > "Has critique run out of steam?" asked Bruno Latour around ten years > ago. It was a significant question. I think there are two way to address this question. One relates more to culture and as to do with the information overload online and is best summ