We are observers and not a direct party to this conflict (yet).
Two principles collide: "self-determination of the people" and
"preservation of territorial integrity".
Politicians on both sides are playing a chicken game that is not going
to end well.
I don't think Kosovo's statehood or a "Texan
JAJAJAJAJ so...back to the beginning, I hope that our "fight" helped
people to have a better understanding of the situation (and the crispy
atmosphere for all! ;) )
And yes...if you didn't saw it, take a look at the Monedero-Grosfogel
affair simona ;)
Podemos to reach power, is playing a ver
> First, I don't think that insulting people by email is something brave or
> appropriate, I
> will not enter in that way. Also...I'm not interested in "traditional" or
> "postmodern"
> categories...
>
Sorry, really I didn't want to insult anyone, It is a cause of my poor english,
I can't be
ve
well I said I didn't want to start a flame and I sustained it. So just a
few considerations about simona's email.
after all I write a huge mail again, sorry, last time
First, I don't think that insulting people by email is something brave
or appropriate, I will not enter in that way. Also...I'
No, it did (see rep in The Guardian), but feebly, largely apportionating the
blame on the
Generalitat. Meanwhile prosecution of the chief of the Mossos d'Esquadra (Cat.
Police) and
other officials is likely to be pursued. and the Spanish State´s police and
para-milataries
(Guardia Civil) are
One minor correction:
On 10/07/2017 06:15 PM, Molly Hankwitz wrote:
> I have the opposite impression from reading news here in States. Spain
> made to look like overly brutal respressive regime. They had to apologize.
That's inaccurate, at least - the Spanish government has most certainly
not ap
I have the opposite impression from reading news here in States. Spain made
to look like overly brutal respressive regime. They had to apologize.
Catalonian leader highlighted as setting "a global stage" for Catalonia -
and Catalonian voters are seen as victims blocked from the right to
vote...that
On 10/07/2017 07:23 AM, Lennaart van Oldenborgh wrote:
why not link up with disenfranchised voters in Madrid, Euskadi and
(based on chml’s info) Murcia and fight for a more democratic, diverse,
devolved, representative, etc Spanish state?
I think it is fair to say that the most progressive lef
> On 7 Oct 2017, at 10:22, i...@conservas.tk wrote:
>
> Catalonia is not about independence. We are ready for a level of democracy
> that we are not allowed to practice and the fight is about political freedom.
hmm. From where i’m sitting, as a fellow lurker in brexit-bound London, i’m
incline
Am 07/10/17 um 11:22 schrieb i...@conservas.tk:
> In first place the most iconic moment for democracy is voting and the
> media don't cover that well. That's (in my view) because we are not in
> democracies anymore since long time ago.
Sorry, there is no democracy outside of the constitution of Sp
I'm sorry. I'm not very active in nettime. But I'm in Catalonia and I've seen
too many
dangerously "traditional" analysis in this listthat I need to intervene. I'm
sorry I can't
bring many details yet (I'm trying to find time to write but I'm too busy with
a very fast
realtime reality right now
Is there some small country Spain can engage in a war with? That would
work for all parties involved.
On 10/6/17, 10:08, chml wrote:
So...let's say, this is like House of Cards, but real. It's disgusting,
but it is like this. This situation led to an unprecedented polarization
in wich (like in
(excuse my english) and the long mail
Hello...I'm ussually a lurker of this mail list, but as I live in spain
(bot I'm not spanish, born in southamerica) it's my intention to add
some ideas to the debate not to start a flame! :)
read this as you read an skeptical opinion and lot of this are i
Reading stuff in newspapers and others the last few days I am getting
increasingly shocked -
and worried, about what appears to be mainstream (media & politics) opinion wrt
the 'events'
in Catalonia.
It boils down to something like 'Catalonians are nationalistic fools, what they
do is ramp il
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