Re: discuss: NM server defaults

2013-07-09 Thread Pavel Simerda
From: Dan Winship d...@gnome.org On 07/01/2013 04:14 PM, Dan Winship wrote: danw, any rationale behind the argument for ignore-carrier? Servers, by definition, tend to have fixed IP addresses. Therefore, if you are using DHCP on a server, it's probably for ease of deployment, not

Re: discuss: NM server defaults

2013-07-09 Thread Colin Walters
On Mon, 2013-07-08 at 12:47 -0400, Dan Winship wrote: On 07/01/2013 04:14 PM, Dan Winship wrote: danw, any rationale behind the argument for ignore-carrier? Servers, by definition, tend to have fixed IP addresses. Therefore, if you are using DHCP on a server, it's probably for ease of

Re: discuss: NM server defaults

2013-07-08 Thread Dan Winship
On 07/01/2013 04:14 PM, Dan Winship wrote: danw, any rationale behind the argument for ignore-carrier? Servers, by definition, tend to have fixed IP addresses. Therefore, if you are using DHCP on a server, it's probably for ease of deployment, not because you want dynamism. Any response to

Re: discuss: NM server defaults

2013-07-01 Thread Pavel Simerda
Sounds like a useful default for specific class of usage. I, personally, would prefer the server to react on carrier at least when using DHCP. So both you and danw didn't say *why*. It's easy. When moving a server to a new location, I want it to accomodate the new network, that's why I'm

Re: discuss: NM server defaults

2013-07-01 Thread Colin Walters
On Mon, 2013-07-01 at 15:32 -0400, Pavel Simerda wrote: In my opinion, the default is to treat DHCP connections as fully dynamic on servers as well as on laptops. In other words, a vote against ignore-carrier=* being the default. I think I agree with you - if you're using DHCP, I'd expect

Re: discuss: NM server defaults

2013-07-01 Thread Dan Winship
On 07/01/2013 03:44 PM, Colin Walters wrote: On Mon, 2013-07-01 at 15:32 -0400, Pavel Simerda wrote: In my opinion, the default is to treat DHCP connections as fully dynamic on servers as well as on laptops. In other words, a vote against ignore-carrier=* being the default. I think I

Re: discuss: NM server defaults

2013-06-28 Thread Dan Winship
So the relevant tweakable options are: - no-auto-default=[interfaces] Disables automatically-created DHCP ethernet connections. Everyone agrees we want no-auto-default=* for servers. - ignore-carrier=[interfaces] Disables carrier-detect on the indicated interfaces. There's been some internal

Re: discuss: NM server defaults

2013-06-27 Thread Pavel Simerda
- Original Message - From: Colin Walters walt...@verbum.org To: networkmanager-list@gnome.org Sent: Wednesday, June 26, 2013 4:25:31 PM Subject: discuss: NM server defaults So I filed this downstream: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=978081 I think it might be useful

Re: discuss: NM server defaults

2013-06-27 Thread Colin Walters
On Thu, 2013-06-27 at 11:34 -0400, Pavel Simerda wrote: - Original Message - From: Colin Walters walt...@verbum.org To: networkmanager-list@gnome.org Sent: Wednesday, June 26, 2013 4:25:31 PM Subject: discuss: NM server defaults So I filed this downstream: https

discuss: NM server defaults

2013-06-26 Thread Colin Walters
So I filed this downstream: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=978081 But it seems like something worth talking about here. We could easily maintain nm-server-defaults.conf in the upstream git repo, at least. We could also add --enable-server-defaults as a build time option, for OS