Re: [nfc-l] How do we know NFCs?

2018-02-02 Thread Dominic Garcia-Hall
Thanks for sharing the paper Jay. I have one of Bill’s mics so it was v interesting reading that. By way of comparison, I moved from the States to Europe last Fall, and have been resuming my NFC recording on this side of the pond. We are certainly still behind on NFC knowledge over here, and for a

Re: [nfc-l] How do we know NFCs?

2018-02-01 Thread Wim van Dam
Thanks for sharing this Jay, that was a great read. To me, an exciting current development is the application of modern machine learning tools to get algorithms ("apps") for automatically classifying NFCs. There is some great work on this from the BirdVox people at NYU + Cornell; see:

Re: [nfc-l] How do we know NFCs?

2018-02-01 Thread Wim van Dam
Thanks for sharing this Jay, that was a great read. To me, an exciting current development is the application of modern machine learning tools to get algorithms ("apps") for automatically classifying NFCs. There is some great work on this from the BirdVox people at NYU + Cornell; see:

Re: [nfc-l] How do we know NFCs?

2018-02-01 Thread Ted Floyd
Thanks, Dave! Best, --TF === Ted Floyd Editor, *Birding* magazine Managing Editor, *North American Birds* Website: http://aba.org/birding Twitter: http://twitter.com/BirdingMagazine The ABA Blog: http://blog.aba.org/ On

Re: [nfc-l] How do we know NFCs?

2018-02-01 Thread Ted Floyd
Thanks, Dave! Best, --TF === Ted Floyd Editor, *Birding* magazine Managing Editor, *North American Birds* Website: http://aba.org/birding Twitter: http://twitter.com/BirdingMagazine The ABA Blog: http://blog.aba.org/ On

Re: [nfc-l] How do we know NFCs?

2018-02-01 Thread Ted Floyd
"Night Voices Revealed: A New Guide to Flight Calls Sheds Light on Nocturnal Migration," *Birding*, December 2002, pp. 546-553, by Jay Withgott. To anticipate your next question... :-) Sorry, but this is from before the era that we were posting PDFs online. Ted Floyd Lafayette, eastern Boulder

Re: [nfc-l] How do we know NFCs?

2018-01-31 Thread eric masterson
I would love to have a copy also. Thanks On Wed, Jan 31, 2018 at 2:34 PM, David Irons wrote: > Ted, > > I forwarded this directly to Jay. > > Dave Irons > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Jan 31, 2018, at 6:21 AM, Ted Floyd wrote: > > Jay Withgott? > > You out

Re: [nfc-l] How do we know NFCs?

2018-01-31 Thread eric masterson
I would love to have a copy also. Thanks On Wed, Jan 31, 2018 at 2:34 PM, David Irons wrote: > Ted, > > I forwarded this directly to Jay. > > Dave Irons > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Jan 31, 2018, at 6:21 AM, Ted Floyd wrote: > > Jay Withgott? > > You out there? > > Could you post a PDF of

Re: [nfc-l] How do we know NFCs?

2018-01-31 Thread David Irons
Ted, I forwarded this directly to Jay. Dave Irons Sent from my iPhone On Jan 31, 2018, at 6:21 AM, Ted Floyd > wrote: Jay Withgott? You out there? Could you post a PDF of your fine article in Birding, gasp, 16 years ago? (Feels like yesterday.) Best,

Re: [nfc-l] How do we know NFCs?

2018-01-31 Thread David Irons
Ted, I forwarded this directly to Jay. Dave Irons Sent from my iPhone On Jan 31, 2018, at 6:21 AM, Ted Floyd mailto:tfl...@aba.org>> wrote: Jay Withgott? You out there? Could you post a PDF of your fine article in Birding, gasp, 16 years ago? (Feels like yesterday.) Best, --TF

Re: [nfc-l] How do we know NFCs?

2018-01-31 Thread Wim van Dam
Ted: what is the reference of the article you are referring to? In the meantime I found this article, which addresses the question to some extend: "FLIGHT CALLS AND THEIR VALUE FOR FUTURE ORNITHOLOGICAL STUDIES AND CONSERVATION RESEARCH", Andrew Farnsworth, The Auk 122(3):733-746. 2005

Re: [nfc-l] How do we know NFCs?

2018-01-31 Thread Wim van Dam
Ted: what is the reference of the article you are referring to? In the meantime I found this article, which addresses the question to some extend: "FLIGHT CALLS AND THEIR VALUE FOR FUTURE ORNITHOLOGICAL STUDIES AND CONSERVATION RESEARCH", Andrew Farnsworth, The Auk 122(3):733-746. 2005

Re: [nfc-l] How do we know NFCs?

2018-01-31 Thread Ted Floyd
Jay Withgott? You out there? Could you post a PDF of your fine article in *Birding*, gasp, 16 years ago? (Feels like yesterday.) Best, --TF === Ted Floyd Editor, *Birding* magazine Managing Editor, *North American Birds* Website: http://aba.org/birding

Re: [nfc-l] How do we know NFCs?

2018-01-31 Thread Ted Floyd
Jay Withgott? You out there? Could you post a PDF of your fine article in *Birding*, gasp, 16 years ago? (Feels like yesterday.) Best, --TF === Ted Floyd Editor, *Birding* magazine Managing Editor, *North American Birds* Website: http://aba.org/birding

RE: [nfc-l] How do we know NFCs?

2018-01-30 Thread Gary Allport
...@mm.list.cornell.edu] On Behalf Of Wim van Dam Sent: 30 January 2018 09:51 To: nf...@cornell.edu Subject: [nfc-l] How do we know NFCs? So as I'm starting to learn about NFCs the obvious question came to me: how do we know what we currently know? Do we typically infer ID features from daytime flight calls

[nfc-l] How do we know NFCs?

2018-01-29 Thread Wim van Dam
So as I'm starting to learn about NFCs the obvious question came to me: how do we know what we currently know? Do we typically infer ID features from daytime flight calls where we can visually verify our IDs? Or are night calls too different from daytime ones, meaning that we have/had to find

[nfc-l] How do we know NFCs?

2018-01-29 Thread Wim van Dam
So as I'm starting to learn about NFCs the obvious question came to me: how do we know what we currently know? Do we typically infer ID features from daytime flight calls where we can visually verify our IDs? Or are night calls too different from daytime ones, meaning that we have/had to find