Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Noob stuff

[Tommy Hill]

As for lane position, I usually stay on the left side. Think of occupying your 
lane to prevent some idiot trying to squeeze in with you.  So when someone is 
passing me on the right, I will sometimes move over the the right to prevent, 
or make it less likely, that they will squeeze me.  Doesn't mean I move back 
and forth constantly, just on sometimes.  
When it just starts to rain, that is when it can be quite dangerous to be in 
the middle of the lane where the oil is.

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Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Noob stuff

[Kyle Munz]

Keith Code had another segment where the rider locks up the front wheel and
pulls out of it. Basically you hold on with your legs, relax your arms, and
let the handlebars do what they're going to do and ride it out. Very
similar to what you would do in gravel.


-Kyle

On Thu, Sep 15, 2016 at 3:39 PM, Dan Cook  wrote:

> Thanks, Kyle!
>
> I watched a chunk of the Keith Code video. We have limited GB per month at
> home, so I haven't watched the whole thing yet. I did watch the shorter
> version, where he shows a rider trying to steer with locked handlebars,
> just by leaning. (It doesn't work...) That was interesting. And, not to be
> too grim, but I watch videos of motorcycle accidents on youtube just to try
> to get a feel for situations to avoid.
>
> Good to hear about the gravel. I like when my instincts are right. (Unlike
> countersteering! Though I'm getting there.) In general, I need to relax
> when I'm riding and avoid being tense. Working on that too.
>
> Dan
>
> On Thu, Sep 15, 2016 at 1:40 PM, Kyle Munz  wrote:
>
>> Most people try to avoid the center of the lane because the theory is
>> that's where cars drop their oil and so it will be slicker. Honestly I
>> spend more time trying to avoid seams in the pavement and let that decide
>> my lane position.
>>
>> In gravel try not to make any changes in velocity or direction. No
>> brakes, no acceleration, no sudden maneuvers. If you're in a turn or going
>> straight just try to keep on keeping on. Also relax your body and let the
>> bike pick its own way through the patch. The tendency is to tense up but
>> try to avoid that.
>>
>> Feet position on the pegs is personal preference, when I'm cruising I'll
>> sometimes put my feet back on the passenger pegs for a change of position.
>>
>> When you countersteer, you are leaning. Did you ever watch that Keith
>> Code video?
>>
>> Some helmets actually have a groove at the temples to allow for glasses.
>> I know my Shoei does but my less expensive Bilt does not. Best to just stop
>> by Cycle Gear if you have one near and try the different helmets on.
>>
>>
>> -Kyle
>>
>> On Thu, Sep 15, 2016 at 11:23 AM, Dan Cook 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi all,
>>>
>>> A few things on my mind as I enter month two of riding. Any thoughts?
>>>
>>> - should I ride in the center of the lane whenever possible? I've heard
>>> varying ideas here. Generally I'm more comfortable in the center. Oncoming
>>> traffic could destroy me. Gravel or other crap on the side of the road is
>>> no good either. But I have still heard people say that the center isn't the
>>> place to be.
>>>
>>> - if I see gravel on the road and there's no avoiding it, what's the
>>> best course of action? My instinct is simply to avoid braking or
>>> accelerating and just try to roll on over it. In corner, obviously this is
>>> more dangerous.
>>>
>>> - when not shifting or braking, balls of the feet on the pegs, or remain
>>> ready to brake/shift?
>>>
>>> - how important is leaning in a curve? My very limited experience
>>> (including a corner lowside) tells me that countersteering is plenty for
>>> any corner.
>>>
>>> - I wear contact lenses. However, for about a month I've been out of
>>> them and had to wear my glasses. How do you put your helmet on with
>>> glasses? I have to take off the glasses, put on the helmet, then snake the
>>> glasses between the helmet padding and my ears until I find the right spot.
>>> It's really a pain in the ass. I wonder if my helmet is a little too tight.
>>>
>>> Thanks!
>>> Dan
>>>
>>> (And this is all relevant to this list, of course, because I'm wondering
>>> all this while on my Nighthawk 250.)
>>>
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Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Noob stuff

[Dan Cook]

Thanks, Kyle!

I watched a chunk of the Keith Code video. We have limited GB per month at
home, so I haven't watched the whole thing yet. I did watch the shorter
version, where he shows a rider trying to steer with locked handlebars,
just by leaning. (It doesn't work...) That was interesting. And, not to be
too grim, but I watch videos of motorcycle accidents on youtube just to try
to get a feel for situations to avoid.

Good to hear about the gravel. I like when my instincts are right. (Unlike
countersteering! Though I'm getting there.) In general, I need to relax
when I'm riding and avoid being tense. Working on that too.

Dan

On Thu, Sep 15, 2016 at 1:40 PM, Kyle Munz  wrote:

> Most people try to avoid the center of the lane because the theory is
> that's where cars drop their oil and so it will be slicker. Honestly I
> spend more time trying to avoid seams in the pavement and let that decide
> my lane position.
>
> In gravel try not to make any changes in velocity or direction. No brakes,
> no acceleration, no sudden maneuvers. If you're in a turn or going straight
> just try to keep on keeping on. Also relax your body and let the bike pick
> its own way through the patch. The tendency is to tense up but try to avoid
> that.
>
> Feet position on the pegs is personal preference, when I'm cruising I'll
> sometimes put my feet back on the passenger pegs for a change of position.
>
> When you countersteer, you are leaning. Did you ever watch that Keith Code
> video?
>
> Some helmets actually have a groove at the temples to allow for glasses. I
> know my Shoei does but my less expensive Bilt does not. Best to just stop
> by Cycle Gear if you have one near and try the different helmets on.
>
>
> -Kyle
>
> On Thu, Sep 15, 2016 at 11:23 AM, Dan Cook  wrote:
>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> A few things on my mind as I enter month two of riding. Any thoughts?
>>
>> - should I ride in the center of the lane whenever possible? I've heard
>> varying ideas here. Generally I'm more comfortable in the center. Oncoming
>> traffic could destroy me. Gravel or other crap on the side of the road is
>> no good either. But I have still heard people say that the center isn't the
>> place to be.
>>
>> - if I see gravel on the road and there's no avoiding it, what's the best
>> course of action? My instinct is simply to avoid braking or accelerating
>> and just try to roll on over it. In corner, obviously this is more
>> dangerous.
>>
>> - when not shifting or braking, balls of the feet on the pegs, or remain
>> ready to brake/shift?
>>
>> - how important is leaning in a curve? My very limited experience
>> (including a corner lowside) tells me that countersteering is plenty for
>> any corner.
>>
>> - I wear contact lenses. However, for about a month I've been out of them
>> and had to wear my glasses. How do you put your helmet on with glasses? I
>> have to take off the glasses, put on the helmet, then snake the glasses
>> between the helmet padding and my ears until I find the right spot. It's
>> really a pain in the ass. I wonder if my helmet is a little too tight.
>>
>> Thanks!
>> Dan
>>
>> (And this is all relevant to this list, of course, because I'm wondering
>> all this while on my Nighthawk 250.)
>>
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Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Noob stuff

[Kyle Munz]

Most people try to avoid the center of the lane because the theory is
that's where cars drop their oil and so it will be slicker. Honestly I
spend more time trying to avoid seams in the pavement and let that decide
my lane position.

In gravel try not to make any changes in velocity or direction. No brakes,
no acceleration, no sudden maneuvers. If you're in a turn or going straight
just try to keep on keeping on. Also relax your body and let the bike pick
its own way through the patch. The tendency is to tense up but try to avoid
that.

Feet position on the pegs is personal preference, when I'm cruising I'll
sometimes put my feet back on the passenger pegs for a change of position.

When you countersteer, you are leaning. Did you ever watch that Keith Code
video?

Some helmets actually have a groove at the temples to allow for glasses. I
know my Shoei does but my less expensive Bilt does not. Best to just stop
by Cycle Gear if you have one near and try the different helmets on.


-Kyle

On Thu, Sep 15, 2016 at 11:23 AM, Dan Cook  wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> A few things on my mind as I enter month two of riding. Any thoughts?
>
> - should I ride in the center of the lane whenever possible? I've heard
> varying ideas here. Generally I'm more comfortable in the center. Oncoming
> traffic could destroy me. Gravel or other crap on the side of the road is
> no good either. But I have still heard people say that the center isn't the
> place to be.
>
> - if I see gravel on the road and there's no avoiding it, what's the best
> course of action? My instinct is simply to avoid braking or accelerating
> and just try to roll on over it. In corner, obviously this is more
> dangerous.
>
> - when not shifting or braking, balls of the feet on the pegs, or remain
> ready to brake/shift?
>
> - how important is leaning in a curve? My very limited experience
> (including a corner lowside) tells me that countersteering is plenty for
> any corner.
>
> - I wear contact lenses. However, for about a month I've been out of them
> and had to wear my glasses. How do you put your helmet on with glasses? I
> have to take off the glasses, put on the helmet, then snake the glasses
> between the helmet padding and my ears until I find the right spot. It's
> really a pain in the ass. I wonder if my helmet is a little too tight.
>
> Thanks!
> Dan
>
> (And this is all relevant to this list, of course, because I'm wondering
> all this while on my Nighthawk 250.)
>
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[Nighthawk Lovers] Noob stuff

[Dan Cook]

Hi all,

A few things on my mind as I enter month two of riding. Any thoughts?

- should I ride in the center of the lane whenever possible? I've heard
varying ideas here. Generally I'm more comfortable in the center. Oncoming
traffic could destroy me. Gravel or other crap on the side of the road is
no good either. But I have still heard people say that the center isn't the
place to be.

- if I see gravel on the road and there's no avoiding it, what's the best
course of action? My instinct is simply to avoid braking or accelerating
and just try to roll on over it. In corner, obviously this is more
dangerous.

- when not shifting or braking, balls of the feet on the pegs, or remain
ready to brake/shift?

- how important is leaning in a curve? My very limited experience
(including a corner lowside) tells me that countersteering is plenty for
any corner.

- I wear contact lenses. However, for about a month I've been out of them
and had to wear my glasses. How do you put your helmet on with glasses? I
have to take off the glasses, put on the helmet, then snake the glasses
between the helmet padding and my ears until I find the right spot. It's
really a pain in the ass. I wonder if my helmet is a little too tight.

Thanks!
Dan

(And this is all relevant to this list, of course, because I'm wondering
all this while on my Nighthawk 250.)

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