Re: [nlug] After the Meeting Tonight

2010-12-15 Thread Richard Thomas
On 12/14/2010 09:15 PM, Alex Smith (K4RNT) wrote: An example of tiered Internet would be pay $10 more a month and get full speed access to Facebook, or use some other site instead, favored by Comcast, for the regular price. Same thing with the search engines. Maybe Yahoo will get preferred

[nlug] Found a scarf at Pizza Perfect

2010-12-15 Thread kwurm5
We found scarf at Pizza Perfect after the meeting. Please contact me if you are missing a scarf. Kevin Wurm kwu...@comcast.net 616-516-0609 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups NLUG group. To post to this group, send email to

Re: [nlug] After the Meeting Tonight

2010-12-15 Thread kwurm5
This is an example of miss information across the internet. The statement is incorrect starting form the first 3 words. The date is 12/21/2010, not the 20th. Go directly to source and you will get closer to the truth.

Re: [nlug] After the Meeting Tonight

2010-12-15 Thread Greg Donald
On Tue, Dec 14, 2010 at 8:51 PM, David R. Wilson da...@wwns.com wrote: Hi guys, I would highly recommend you take a look at this: http://www.grassfire.com/ Sounds like someone's been watching too much Faux News. -- Greg Donald destiney.com | gregdonald.com -- You received this message

Re: [nlug] After the Meeting Tonight

2010-12-15 Thread Kent Perrier
On Wed, Dec 15, 2010 at 12:46 PM, Greg Donald gdon...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Dec 14, 2010 at 8:51 PM, David R. Wilson da...@wwns.com wrote: Hi guys, I would highly recommend you take a look at this: http://www.grassfire.com/ Sounds like someone's been watching too much Faux News.

Re: [nlug] After the Meeting Tonight

2010-12-15 Thread Greg Donald
On Wed, Dec 15, 2010 at 1:07 PM, Kent Perrier kent.perr...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Dec 15, 2010 at 12:46 PM, Greg Donald gdon...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Dec 14, 2010 at 8:51 PM, David R. Wilson da...@wwns.com wrote: Hi guys, I would highly recommend you take a look at this:

Re: [nlug] After the Meeting Tonight

2010-12-15 Thread John R. Dennison
On Wed, Dec 15, 2010 at 01:07:23PM -0600, Kent Perrier wrote: On Wed, Dec 15, 2010 at 12:46 PM, Greg Donald gdon...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Dec 14, 2010 at 8:51 PM, David R. Wilson da...@wwns.com wrote: Hi guys, I would highly recommend you take a look at this:

[nlug] OT the shrinking market of Wintel?

2010-12-15 Thread kj37075
http://www.informationweek.com/news/global-cio/trends/showArticle.jhtml?articleID=228800579 I read this after reading about the Google tablet. A tablet with free office products on it, which you can share files with other people. No need for purchasing a license or dealing with back end storage.

Re: [nlug] After the Meeting Tonight

2010-12-15 Thread Tilghman Lesher
On Wednesday 15 December 2010 14:43:54 David R. Wilson wrote: The problem as I see it is it gives the FCC (and by proxy the federal government) the ability to have some control of the net. I think once that is done it will be expanded from there. That is utterly ridiculous. The federal

Re: [nlug] After the Meeting Tonight

2010-12-15 Thread Michael Chaney
There are legitimate concerns about openly allowing the FCC or any other part of the government to regulate the internet. That said, there is also a huge amount of misinformation being propagated by conservatives about this. There's confusion that net neutrality is akin to the Fairness Doctrine,

Re: [nlug] After the Meeting Tonight

2010-12-15 Thread Jack Coats
... Sounds like someone's been watching too much Faux News. Its better than having the government dictate that we have equal coverage of Windows. Even if that site has outlined one legit concern in a truly unbiased way, all the other paranoid rubbish listed there makes it lose all

Re: [nlug] After the Meeting Tonight

2010-12-15 Thread Greg Donald
On Wed, Dec 15, 2010 at 5:55 PM, Jack Coats j...@coats.org wrote: Tried, but there were to many other folks that believed BHO meant what he said to have said during an election cycle. http://whatthefuckhasobamadonesofar.com/ Way to many folks didn't look at his record, I loved his voting

Re: [nlug] After the Meeting Tonight

2010-12-15 Thread Evan Brown
On Wed, Dec 15, 2010 at 6:33 PM, Greg Donald gdon...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Dec 15, 2010 at 5:55 PM, Jack Coats j...@coats.org wrote: Tried, but there were to many other folks that believed BHO meant what he said to have said during an election cycle.

Re: [nlug] After the Meeting Tonight

2010-12-15 Thread Jack Coats
I agree... Lets drop the politics, it just raises my blood pressure. vi beats emacs Now for religious debates! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups NLUG group. To post to this group, send email to nlug-talk@googlegroups.com To

Re: [nlug] After the Meeting Tonight

2010-12-15 Thread Drew
Meh. I agree. Emacs is a nice little operating system, but it lacks a good text editor. On Wed, Dec 15, 2010 at 6:55 PM, Jack Coats j...@coats.org wrote: I agree... Lets drop the politics, it just raises my blood pressure. vi beats emacs Now for religious debates! -- You

RE: Re: [nlug] After the Meeting Tonight

2010-12-15 Thread john
True fundamentalists use ed or ex. ---Original Email--- Subject :Re: [nlug] After the Meeting Tonight From :mailto:j...@coats.org Date :Wed Dec 15 18:55:34 America/Chicago 2010 I agree... Lets drop the politics, it just raises my blood pressure.     vi beats   emacs Now

Re: Re: [nlug] After the Meeting Tonight

2010-12-15 Thread Jack Coats
On Wed, Dec 15, 2010 at 7:11 PM, j...@jfeldredge.com wrote: True fundamentalists use ed or ex. ---Original Email--- Subject :Re: [nlug] After the Meeting Tonight From :mailto:j...@coats.org Date :Wed Dec 15 18:55:34 America/Chicago 2010 I agree... Lets drop the politics, it

RE: Re: Re: [nlug] After the Meeting Tonight

2010-12-15 Thread john
Actually, I think both ed and ex are still included in Linux distros. Vi is basically a superset of ex, and some features still involve the line buffer. ---Original Email--- Subject :Re: Re: [nlug] After the Meeting Tonight From :mailto:shadowhun...@gmail.com Date :Wed Dec 15 19:31:59

Re: [nlug] After the Meeting Tonight

2010-12-15 Thread Greg Donald
On Wed, Dec 15, 2010 at 6:55 PM, Jack Coats j...@coats.org wrote: I agree... Lets drop the politics, it just raises my blood pressure.     vi beats   emacs Now for religious debates! alias vi='/usr/bin/emacs' -- Greg Donald destiney.com | gregdonald.com -- You received this

Re: [nlug] After the Meeting Tonight

2010-12-15 Thread Curt Lundgren
OK, I use Emacs. Let us not turn this discussion into an editor rant… On Wed, Dec 15, 2010 at 8:00 PM, Greg Donald gdon...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Dec 15, 2010 at 6:55 PM, Jack Coats j...@coats.org wrote: I agree... Lets drop the politics, it just raises my blood pressure. vi

Re: Re: [nlug] After the Meeting Tonight

2010-12-15 Thread Evan Brown
OK, John. I'm using Gmail. It does what it does. I don't control whether the post is top or bottom, and really I don't care (after all, I don't control it.) Strange, i actually use Gmail

Re: [nlug] After the Meeting Tonight

2010-12-15 Thread Alex Smith (K4RNT)
I think this is a corollary of Godwin's Law - eventually it will always come down to a vi vs. emacs debate! ;) Beers on me next time I'm in town. ;) On Wed, Dec 15, 2010 at 20:01, Curt Lundgren verif...@gmail.com wrote: OK, I use Emacs.  Let us not turn this discussion into an editor rant…

Re: [nlug] After the Meeting Tonight

2010-12-15 Thread Greg Donald
On Wed, Dec 15, 2010 at 8:00 PM, Greg Donald gdon...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Dec 15, 2010 at 6:55 PM, Jack Coats j...@coats.org wrote: I agree... Lets drop the politics, it just raises my blood pressure.     vi beats   emacs Now for religious debates! alias vi='/usr/bin/emacs'

Re: Re: [nlug] After the Meeting Tonight

2010-12-15 Thread John R. Dennison
On Wed, Dec 15, 2010 at 07:59:38PM -0600, Curt Lundgren wrote: OK, John. I'm using Gmail. It does what it does. I don't control whether the post is top or bottom, and really I don't care (after all, I don't control it.) No; it does what *you* have it do. You completely control

RE: Re: Re: [nlug] After the Meeting Tonight

2010-12-15 Thread john
In my case, if I am replying from my netbook, I bottom-post, since that machine uses Mozilla Thunderbird. If I am replying from my BlackBerry, as I am at the moment, I top-post, as its email editor won't do Internet-style quoting, and truncates any message over a certain hard-coded length.

Re: [nlug] After the Meeting Tonight

2010-12-15 Thread Andrew Farnsworth
On Wed, Dec 15, 2010 at 9:00 PM, Greg Donald gdon...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Dec 15, 2010 at 6:55 PM, Jack Coats j...@coats.org wrote: I agree... Lets drop the politics, it just raises my blood pressure. vi beats emacs Now for religious debates! alias

[nlug] NN and what it started as. (my opinion)

2010-12-15 Thread Steven S. Critchfield
Since the other thread was so thoroughly hijacked, I'll see about starting this one. I already started this with the topic correct, and with the warning about the content being of my own opinion. Net Neutrality, at least in the definition I have for it, is a good thing. I think it could

Re: [nlug] NN and what it started as. (my opinion)

2010-12-15 Thread Chris McQuistion
I understand where you're coming from and I think I agree with most of what you're saying, but the part that worries me is the idea that this problem could be self-correcting by consumers voting with their feet, so to speak. Most Americans have 1 or 2 choices for broadband. That's it. I'm