requirements come from the NIST, I think.
I'll look forward to trying it when I return to the office. Thanks for
pointing out the thread as I clearly missed it during my skim.
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thentication. Given that, I'm pessimistic there is an open way to
access NASA email. Linux users currently have a waiver to continue using
IMAP, but that will go away once NASA IT finds a solution. It is likely
to be a dictated MUA (as with the Mac and Windows) rather than a general
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> the unsubscribe-verify e-mail; i don't see any non-cc'd followups.
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> goodbye all!
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> Ken> IMAP and Maildir mailstores. So making the nmh tools work with those
> Ken> mailstores would be useful.
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> .. with migration via refile between different store types .. that
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I also have the following in my .mh_profile so that show on the command
line goes directly to the browser:
mhshow-show-text/html: google-chrome '%f'
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further reflection, I think ALL email at work is not in my timezone.
NASA uses EST and email from my German colleagues is all in CET.
Ken, thanks VERY much for passing on that tip.
+1 for making local time the default, unless -noshowproc (or equivalent)
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Agree with Lyndon here.
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of fashion now, but I still think they're convenient.
Agreed :-).
https://sourceforge.net/p/mh-e/bugs/475/
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in a search that turns up some
software of some use to the user.
I'm inclined to follow Ken's advice. However, once the information is
gone, it is gone forever, so I'd like to get some more opinions before
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blatently wrong, please let me know. A FAQ
update can be pushed out relatively quickly.
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okay -- i can accept all that.
but at the least the documentation needs to keep up. mts.conf.man,
mh-tailor, the FAQ, should all mention that the basic client
connectivity has changed.
Fair enough; that's a valid
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okay -- i can accept all that.
but at the least the documentation needs to keep up. mts.conf.man,
mh-tailor, the FAQ, should all mention that the basic client
connectivity has
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n...@dad.org writes:
Ken Hornstein k...@pobox.com writes:
(Half a year ago)
I've thought about the nmh target audience ... I guess my thinking is the
ideal nmh user be programmers who want a flexible MUA that can make use
release. Portable
scripts should try 'mhparam libexecdir' first, and fall back to
'mhparam libdir' if the first returns no output.
OK, thanks for the heads up. Please do not be too anxious to remove it
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directories.
Please let me know if I should add /usr/local/bin/nmh per my comment
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, this is probably a sound tip, and I'm
putting it on my todo list. Thanks!
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to decode MIME headers properly.
Given that my files are circa 80s, this is probably a sound tip, and I'm
putting it on my todo list. Thanks!
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and the Inline header field proposal go away,
and #attach/#inline can be implemented in the future (which would
suppress the send-time query).
Oh darn, it's already the future.
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-browser, which are maintained by the package manager. In my case,
the latter points to w3m.
If sensible-browser exists, we should use it.
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#!/bin/sh
URL=$1
if test -n $BROWSER; then
OLDIFS=$IFS
it myself, but as you've noticed, many of the text/plain
parts are empty, so now I render the HTML with w3m (in Emacs).
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the calendar as well.
It's actually called googlecl; I took a look at it, and it doesn't take
an iCalendar file directly, unfortunately.
But, we'd be able to parse and pass in the fields directly?
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some more modern
compilation tools, but not all.
1. Ask IT to install git. Go to CCB. Install.
2. Compile, notice that a library is missing.
3. Ask IT to install library. Go to CCB. Install.
4. Go to 2.
At any time, IT could have said no. Game over.
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Hopefully
almost nobody will need it now since the default locking algorithm is
runtime selectable and the default is no longer dot-locking.
As of 1.6?
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has run rmdir draft and has completely forgotten about
the issue :-).
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it at work, so that shouldn't be
the only place.
How about the content of the Log-Directory profile component, which
could be Path/log by default? If there is a library like Java's log4j or
logback that supports automatic rotation and compression, that would be
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selectable and the default is no longer dot-locking.
As of 1.6?
Yes.
OK, my path is clear. Thanks!
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an external user, so it
always sends me a text/calendar part.
In my Googling, I saw the term external user associated with the ICS
attachments. As an internal user, I guess I'm out of luck?
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send (via MH-E)...check
rcvstore...check
Damn, good job folks! Now I can go back to not worrying about locking
(although I was oblivious that I had to worry about it before).
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that for server-side components, but I do not
see them used for client-side tools. Not sure I think it's appropriate here.
You're right. It would be in the same category as the tools that remove
the , files. It's easy enough to add another stanza to my
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Never mind, since what I was asking for was an amd64 binary snapshot,
but that is probably untenable.
I own an amd64 system, so I thought I'd offer Bill a completed build.
Jerry,
You are a gentleman
the
Challenger and Columbia disasters, and the stolen unencrypted
laptop with Personally Identifiable Information (PII). But we digress.
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forward to it.
I'm doing this in my spare time (of which I have negative quantities) so
it will take a while.
Thanks again for your quick, helpful and friendly reponses.
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eval to the run_test call just when it's needed, like my third example.
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Path just as much a
change as disallowing relative paths? Security breaches should be fixed
as soon as they are found. Document in the release notes. Exit with an
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directives; Attach headers will still be
processed, so you can see what it has decided to do.
I assume that you can run attach multiple times, or add multiple Attach
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But going forward Ken might be open to putting a link on the home page
called Snapshots that points to some directory somewhere where the
nightly build-bot can deposit a tarball called
nmh-snapshot-MMDD.tgz.
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INSTANTLY got rid of the
silly CVS restriction of having - and .s in tags with no reservations
whatsoever. I use git tag -n with a small enough number that keeps me
from seeing the hideous old tags.
I'm with Ken.
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full stop.
No, that list is not a sentence nor other form that requires a period.
If you are citing a book or article, then you would use a full stop per
the Chicago Manual of Style, for example. See the ssh man page that
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messages down, 800 more to go. Come to think of it, the last
time I caught up on nmh mail was when I was home sick from work with a
cold, like today :-). You guys are awesome, keep up the great work and
inspire us MH-E folks to get caught up!
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to the target encoding
to try to substitute some reasonable characters for characters that are
not recognized there.
It appears that iconv(3) returns EILSEQ in this case. Do we have another
mechanism to implement //TRANSLIT? Seems useful.
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$HOME/var/mail is my MH Path, by the way. This seems to have served me
well.
David's build_mh script looks neat.
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Thank you! Adding -saslmech LOGIN worked like a charm.
That description would be a welcome addition to the currently terse
reference to -saslmech in the manual.
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to do, so little time.
I'd be happy to give folks write permission to
http://rand-mh.sourceforge.net/book/ if they want to improve it. I'd run
it past Jerry first, of course, but I imagine he'd encourage it as well.
Just drop me and Jerry Peek jp...@jpeek.com a line with your proposal.
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, as opposed to
traditional monolithic MUAs.
Both.
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secretaries used MH.
Even though they were smart, they didn't know anything about mail
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well as the folded gnus way.
Happy to let the implementer have the last word though :-).
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At least it would be built-in, if not native.
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the repeated subjects. The mutt
presentation forces you to look away from your current message to see
the subject.
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not use the Git convention: unseen~3 ?
At first I was going to go along, but perhaps we want to reserve the git
terminology in case we do threading which would be a closer analogy
(parent relationship).
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Lyndon Nerenberg lyn...@orthanc.ca wrote:
On 2013-04-06, at 4:28 PM, Bill Wohler wrote:
At first I was going to go along, but perhaps we want to reserve the git
terminology in case we do threading which would be a closer analogy
(parent relationship).
Wouldn't threading be handled
Lyndon Nerenberg lyn...@orthanc.ca wrote:
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Actually, now that I think of it, since threading is usually a toggle,
we can use ~ and ^ whether threading is enabled or not. If it's enabled,
these characters operate upon the thread
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indicate that you might want to be
able to enter the program as you're reading the email. That might be
easier than specifying the program for the particular attachment at the
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David Levine levin...@acm.org writes:
Hi,
Unless there's objection, I'm going to deprecate msh(1).
No objection.
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Hi,
The m_getfld() rewrite is finished and the branch merged to
master. Reviews welcome:
I've been out of the C loop for too long to review, but I can send along
a big thanks!
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David Levine david.lev...@combinenet.com writes:
Paul F. wrote:
not all MH users are programmers. i like file modi[fi]cation time better
than mtime.
Agreed.
Seconded.
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folder when you get to it to reassure you that nmh is still alive and
kicking.
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as for the assertion that it's OK to kill-off slocal because the
capability can be supplied by some other program,
that assertion applies with equal validity to the entirety of nmh.
cheers,
-mo
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Greetings
other MUAs support.
Obviously this a issue on which reasonable people can disagree.
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care about this, right?
Agreed.
Happy New Year, everyone!
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it to outgoing messages (perhaps via a send argument). In MH-E's case,
we need to add the header field to a received message, so we'd probably
use anno.
p.s. Please continue to cc mh-e-de...@lists.sourceforge.net on this
discussion.
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a path entry.
i pushed the -nosequence change last night.
Thanks, the MH= was worth a try since it works with MHCONTEXT (I think
:-\). Maybe that's a bug?
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Depending on what you find, one of the existing folders might be
appropriate or we can create a new one.
I'd be happy to give you write access.
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Lyndon Nerenberg lyn...@orthanc.ca wrote:
On 2012-12-05, at 8:33 PM, Bill Wohler wrote:
Jerry and I spent a lot of time archiving everything we had onto
rand-mh.sourceforge.net. It goes back to MH 5. I think it would be
better to keep it all together and put anything you find
if you
reply to a message in your outbox that doesn't have a Message-ID, an
In-Reply-To header field is created that breaks threading at the
recipient's end.
Given the demise of spost, I chuckled when I spotted the second item.
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decode all headers except for Received: headers. Thoughts?
Header fields should be RFC 2047-decoded before any MH operation that
considers the content of the message, including pick, shouldn't they?
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the -msgid flag when I do that...]
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Jeffrey Honig j...@honig.net writes:
I use dist (via mh-e) all the time to add people who were not Cc'd. Confuses
the hell out of
Outlook and Thunderbird users. That's part of the charm.
I use dist in MH-E all the time too. Most times the recipient doesn't even
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ra...@hep.wisc.edu writes:
Am I dinosaur for still using procmail??
Yes, but you're not the only dinosaur here :-).
I mean, is there something better?
I had noticed that procmail hasn't been updated in years, so I added a
task to investigate sieve as a possible replacement.
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1. sortm +folder
2. sortm -textfield subject -limit 0 +folder
Me too. I don't think I've ever used sortm with a sequence.
Glad -all became the default. Throwing an error if explicit messages
were not specified would have broken MH-E.
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Is it worth it? Would someone be willing to send an announcement there?
Bill Wohler, I see you still post there :-)
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Lyndon Nerenberg lyn...@orthanc.ca writes:
On 2012-03-26, at 15:05 PM, Ken Hornstein wrote:
Weren't you and Paul Vixie supposed to be working on that?
Not me. I have other things I'm not working on!
This is one of the funnier lines I've read in a while :-).
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Jon Fairbairn jon.fairba...@cl.cam.ac.uk writes:
Bill Wohler woh...@newt.com writes:
Ken Hornstein k...@pobox.com writes:
When looking over forw today, I came across the code that handles digests
(which I guess is the companion code to burst). So, I was wondering ...
do people use
are named
according to the messages folder and message number.
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longer than 80 tty characters, the
output has been generated for 132-colunm output devices. A typical
page has about 76 lines. Pages are separated by a formfeed character.
/JLR
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Ken Hornstein k...@pobox.com writes:
One of the bugs submitted on savannah by Bill Wohler mentions that MH-E
added support for identities (although he doesn't really go into what
that means). But it occurs to me that with the changes I've made, well,
that's pretty close to identity support
/6.8.5/ would
remain as the best place for this history. If someone has some time
(maybe me, someday), the RCS files could be pulled out and put into a
CVS or Subversion repository at SourceForge where they could be more
easily browsed.
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the last time I used it, or to
articulate a use case. Still, it would be good to keep, as you say.
On a related note, I use burst on forwarded messages a lot to either
promote the forwarded message to the scan line, or to reply to a
forwarded message.
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