Re: [NMusers] ETAs & SIGMA in external validation

2018-04-13 Thread Faelens, Ruben (Belgium)
yway. Good luck with your project! Please excuse my brevity, this was sent from a mobile device From: Tingjie Guo Sent: Friday, April 13, 2018 5:20:40 PM To: Jakob Ribbing Cc: Faelens, Ruben (Belgium); nmusers@globomaxnm.com Subject: Re: [NMusers] ETAs & SIGM

Re: [NMusers] ETAs & SIGMA in external validation

2018-04-13 Thread Jakob Ribbing
Hi Tingjie, Assuming (zero and) negative parameter values are not allowed, you could change from e.g. a linear model to a power model, which is as close as possible to the linear model, in the range of covariate values from the original publication. If the publication lists e.g. median, mean

Re: [NMusers] ETAs & SIGMA in external validation

2018-04-13 Thread Tingjie Guo
@Ruben@Jakob Very worthwhile discusstion! I would like to raise an extended question: if the model contains one covariate, the values of which from external data make parameters negative, what would be the optimal solution for this? @Ruben Out of curiosity, why did you use Nelder-Mead method inst

Re: [NMusers] ETAs & SIGMA in external validation

2018-04-10 Thread Jakob Ribbing
Hi Ruben, I think I misread Tingjies original posting as taking ABS(ETA), whereas his initial attempt was actually ABS(1+ETA), which is less problematic. The latter would not bias simulations much if IIV is e.g. 30% CV, agreed. However, as Tingjies is mainly interested in estimation, I believe t

RE: [NMusers] ETAs & SIGMA in external validation

2018-04-10 Thread Eleveld-Ufkes, DJ
(Belgium) Sent: maandag 9 april 2018 23:52 To: Tingjie Guo; nmusers@globomaxnm.com Subject: RE: [NMusers] ETAs & SIGMA in external validation Hi Tingjie, A lot of great tips and explanations already. Just wanted to add my two cents. POSTHOC will estimate the most likely ETA for each individual, ta

RE: [NMusers] ETAs & SIGMA in external validation

2018-04-09 Thread Faelens, Ruben (Belgium)
Hi Tingjie, A lot of great tips and explanations already. Just wanted to add my two cents. POSTHOC will estimate the most likely ETA for each individual, taking into account the known population parameters THETA and OMEGA. “Most likely” means: 1. An individual parameter as close as possible

Re: [NMusers] ETAs & SIGMA in external validation

2018-04-06 Thread Jakob Ribbing
Hi Tingjie, It does not: Sigma squared is the sum of all error variances, and assay error in most cases is only a small contribution to this sum. There are exceptions, but when applying a previous model to new data it is rarely the first modification that comes to my mind. Given your objectives

Re: [NMusers] ETAs & SIGMA in external validation

2018-04-06 Thread Tingjie Guo
Small correction in question 2: *SIGMA* (instead of OMEGA) value influences individual ETAs... @Leonid, @Jakob, Thank you both for your input. @Jakob, You are right, I'm interested in individual ETAs. The idea is to evaluate the predictive ability of the model in particular subjects (external da

Re: [NMusers] ETAs & SIGMA in external validation

2018-04-06 Thread Leonid Gibiansky
It would be better to use $EST METHOD=1 INTERACTION MAXEVAL=0 (at least if the original model was fit with INTERACTION option and residual error model is not additive). One option is to use Para = THETA * EXP(ETA) You would be changing the model, but the model is not too good any way if you

Re: [NMusers] ETAs & SIGMA in external validation

2018-04-06 Thread Jakob Ribbing
Dear Tingjie, If I understand your description correctly, you would like to evaluate the published model (and point estimates of population parameters) using GoF plots (residual-error and eta-plots), rather than via simulation (e.g. VPC or PPC)? At least for the latter it would be necessary to c