[NSP] Re: Ranting and raving

2009-01-04 Thread John_Dally
Thanks for the clarification. Astute, as always. So, is "The Keel Row" a rant? "the Mason's Apron" had to be Scottish. Someone on Dunsire made the Northumbrian claim. I can't think of a tune in the Northumbrian repertoire that references the Masons. John Dally National Account Manager Houghton

[NSP] Re: [POSSIBLE SPAM] Rant

2009-01-04 Thread Ian Lawther
Bizarrely my email marked up Lynn's contribution as "possible spam". "Possible Spam" also works, but doesn't taste as good as Tomato Soup or Potato Crisps (and Spam should be marked up as "Possible Meat"). Ian Lynn Patterson wrote: I prefer potato crisps myself. To get on or off this list

[NSP] [POSSIBLE SPAM] Rant

2009-01-04 Thread Lynn Patterson
I prefer potato crisps myself. To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html

[NSP] Re: Ranting and raving

2009-01-04 Thread Matt Seattle
Splitting it up into 4 beats, and putting a double line at the barline ||Nuts|and|rais|ins|| To||ma|to|soup|- I think we are saying, or trying to say, the same thing as Colin's example, i.e. a-||ONE-two-THREE-and a-||ONE-two-THREE-and To get on or off this list see list information at http://w

[NSP] Re: Ranting and raving

2009-01-04 Thread Paul Gretton
>>-Original Message- >>From: rosspi...@aol.com [mailto:rosspi...@aol.com] >>Sent: 04 January 2009 18:47 >>To: i...@gretton-willems.com >>Cc: nsp@cs.dartmouth.edu >>Subject: [NSP] Re: Ranting and raving >>The start of the rant beat is the opposite of trochhee and more iambic >>with two e

[NSP] Re: Ranting and raving

2009-01-04 Thread rosspipes
The start of the rant beat is the opposite of trochhee and more iambic with two extra strong beats following the iambic te-tum. i.e. te-tum,tum,tum. CR -Original Message- From: Paul Gretton To: nsp@cs.dartmouth.edu Sent: Sun, 4 Jan 2009 16:25 Subj

[NSP] Rantin' and ravin'

2009-01-04 Thread Paul Gretton
Ladeez and genteelmen!! Welcome to the Grand Ol' Opry! Purleez take your pardners for the next dance. And this time it's the upbeat version of Thomas of Celano's great 13th-century classic RANT, y'all's ol' favorite, the "Dies irae": A wun, two, a wun, two, three, four... Dies

[NSP] Ranting and raving

2009-01-04 Thread Paul Gretton
Colin wrote: >>I am glad you enjoyed reading the Journal which is designed to stimulate thought a wee bit more that the >>Newsletter. The article which was less than stimulating and in fact quite innaccurate was the one where Sarah >>Paton commented on the financial running of the

[NSP] Re: Rants and reels

2009-01-04 Thread Chris Ormston
John, Anthony was describing the dance step, which does sound like tomato soup, BUT, the -to- is a lead in note and the -ma- is the first beat of the bar. Tunes which have "infected" the repertoire include the slow waltzes - Sweet Hesleyside, Rothbury Hills, The Cott etc, (though Winster Gallop's

[NSP] Ranting and raving

2009-01-04 Thread Paul Gretton
John Dally wrote: >>Anthony Robb described the rhythm of a rant as "tomato". Checking the reference (Northumbrian Pipers' Society Magazine, Volume 29, 2008, page 20), I see that what he actually said was: "In a nutshell think bounce not speed and as a general rule if the pul

[NSP] Re: Rants and reels

2009-01-04 Thread rosspipes
-Original Message- From: rosspi...@aol.com To: john_da...@hmco.com Sent: Sun, 4 Jan 2009 16:54 Subject: Re: [NSP] Rants and reels Dear John, I am glad you enjoyed reading the Journal which is designed to stimulate thought a wee bit more that the Newsletter. The article which w

[NSP] Ranting and raving

2009-01-04 Thread Paul Gretton
Matt wrote: >>>For the Rant rhythm, how about >>>Nuts-and-Rais-ins >>>where the heavier stress is on -Rais- So - just to formalise (confuse?) matters -- two trochees (i.e. a ditrochee), with the second ictus being stronger than the first? Cheers, Paul Gretton

[NSP] Re: Rants and reels

2009-01-04 Thread John Liestman
I have always used "Veggies and Chocolate", knowing that anyone in their right mind would ALWAYS put the emphasis on Chocolate over veggies! ;-) Just be sure to pronounce chocolate as a two syllable word. Quoting Matt Seattle : > For the Rant rhythm, how about > Nuts-and-Rais-ins > where th

[NSP] Re: Rants and reels

2009-01-04 Thread rosspipes
Exactly. The stress is on the second beat in 'tomato' whichever way it is pronounced which is not incorrect in that respect but it is a long syllable which is incorrect. It is essentially? a short lead in beat followed be three short? beats like quaver, crotchet,crotchet,crotchet, like the fir

[NSP] Re: Rants and reels

2009-01-04 Thread Matt Seattle
For the Rant rhythm, how about Nuts-and-Rais-ins where the heavier stress is on -Rais- To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html

[NSP] Re: Rants and reels

2009-01-04 Thread Matt Seattle
I didn't understand what AR meant with his tomato, either - if he meant un unstressed downbeat (to-) then I'm mystified, as Rants have a stress on the downbeat in my experience. The stress of the word tomato is on the -ma-, whether you say tomaato or tomayto. Mason's Apron is Scottish, the earlies