[NSP] Re: Chanter Tuning

2011-02-07 Thread Christopher.Birch
I don't know exactly how flat A = 398 is but it can't be very far off F+, given that A = 392 would correspond to concert G. I wonder if Anthony would agree therefore that since lots of the notes are sharp, a good starting point would be to pull the reed out a fraction? C -Original

[NSP] Re: Chanter Tuning

2011-02-07 Thread Christopher.Birch
I don't know exactly how flat A = 398 is but it can't be very far off F+, Sorry, badly worded. I mean it can't be very far off an A that would give you F+. c given that A = 392 would correspond to concert G. I wonder if Anthony would agree therefore that since lots of the notes are sharp,

[NSP] Re: Esoteric tuning relationships

2011-02-07 Thread Christopher.Birch
Can one maker (which one?) have that much influence? Possibly, I think. I didn't have a specific one in mind as I was primarily speculating on the process (that's why I wrote a maker rather than one maker, but didn't CR fairly recently mention someone down the road making lots and lots of

[NSP] Chanter tuning

2011-02-07 Thread Anthony Robb
Christopher Birch wrote recently: I don't know exactly how flat A = 398 is but it can't be very far off F+, given that A = 392 would correspond to concert G. I wonder if Anthony would agree therefore that since lots of the notes are sharp, a good starting point would be to pull

[NSP] Re: Esoteric tuning relationships

2011-02-07 Thread Gibbons, John
A compromise might be a pair of e's, one a true 6th above G, for playing in G; another - a perfect fourth above the B, and keyed, for playing in E minor. The low E might be harder to arrange practically, but may not be as critical acoustically?? As the most prolific and also one of the best

[NSP] Re: Chanter tuning

2011-02-07 Thread Christopher.Birch
blend their pipes failry pleasantly at A=446. Do you mean tuning your nominal G to the F you get on an equal temperament tuner if you set it to A = 446? Or do you mean tuning the nominal B to 446? These two possibilities would yield different results. (a higher nominal G in the second

[NSP] Re: Esoteric tuning relationships

2011-02-07 Thread Christopher.Birch
A compromise might be a pair of e's, one a true 6th above G, for playing in G; another - a perfect fourth above the B, and keyed, for playing in E minor. Yes, this is what I meant by 8 (different) notes to the octave rather than just seven. The lower, keyed, high E would also sound better

[NSP] Re: Esoteric tuning relationships

2011-02-07 Thread Christopher.Birch
And I've been telling people it is because all notes have got gradually sharper over the last 150 years, and that the Reid 'ur-pipes' were made when G was somewhere between where F and G are now. Have I been wrong all this time? This is probably an associated factor. My speculation about

[NSP] Re: Esoteric tuning relationships

2011-02-07 Thread Gibbons, John
Reid pipes were generally made sharper than the current F+; close to modern F# in many cases, so Francis and Graham tell me. John -Original Message- From: lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu [mailto:lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu] On Behalf Of Dru Brooke-Taylor Sent: 07 February 2011 11:39 To:

[NSP] Re: Esoteric tuning relationships

2011-02-07 Thread Colin
It always fascinates me how the tuning of things changes (I have a concertina in high pitch). For those (like me) not well versed in the mechanics and theory of things, this makes good reading: http://www.piano-tuners.org/history/pitch.html (and also which locations not to attempt to play the

[NSP] Tuning

2011-02-07 Thread Anthony Robb
Chris, John, Dru others In no particular order: * I set my Korg DA 30 to 446 using the calibration button and take it from there * I've got a chanter in for overhaul at the moment and have just seen the top B rise in pitch bt 20 cents by moving a plunger in from

[NSP] Re: Esoteric tuning relationships

2011-02-07 Thread Francis Wood
On 7 Feb 2011, at 13:03, Gibbons, John wrote: Reid pipes were generally made sharper than the current F+; close to modern F# in many cases, so Francis and Graham tell me. Yes, that's right. Or to be more precise, Reid pipes play most happily at F# using (and insert italics here) the most

[NSP] Re: Esoteric tuning relationships

2011-02-07 Thread Gibbons, John
'It does have the unintended consequence of keeping off the fixed pitch instruments, which may or may not be an advantage, according respectively to taste or the lack of it.' Discuss... -Original Message- From: lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu [mailto:lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu] On Behalf Of

[NSP] Re: Esoteric tuning relationships

2011-02-07 Thread John Dally
Hi Paul. I read that book, along with another one which argued that equal temperament made Modern (post-modern?) Civilization the greatest the world has ever known, or something like that. Sorry, I don't remember the name of the book or its author. I didn't agree with his premise or his thesis,

[NSP] Re: Tuning

2011-02-07 Thread Anthony Robb
Hello Matt Yep, it's a 7 key chanter so no F nats. Also, it's a song and all of the singers I have backed (OK, there have only been 3 in 40 years!) prefer that key. And finally, as an instrumental it makes a loamishly lovely springboard to dive into P B's P. Cheers Anthony