[NSP] Re: The Lost Music of Newsham

2009-03-16 Thread Anthony Robb


   Hellos apiece

   There is a rather important tale to tell here and Chris is
   understandbly reluctant to publicise it but hereas the story, as I have
   it. I'm putting in lots of background as I think it helps.

   Chris was an amazing player even as a youngster. He came up to the
   first Rothbury Festival in Colin Rossas V W camper van, which was
   parked for the weekend in Mount Hooley stack-yard. On the Saturday
   morning I was in our garden when I heard aI saw my Love Come Passing by
   Mea drifting out across the steading.  I couldnat work out what was
   happening as parts of it sounded like my track on Cut  Dry Dolly, it
   was the same version but different somehow. Nevertheless, it was close
   enough for me to think that Colin had rigged up a record player in the
   van. I rushed to the stack yard to witness a youth standing bolt
   upright playing what was my favourite pipes tune of all time. Chris
   then came to the advanced pipes class of the weekly sessions at
   Wallsend Arts Centre. If people are familiar with the educational gem,
   athe pupil should surpass the master otherwise both have faileda, all I
   can say is, we didnat fail!

   A wee lass, whose party piece was singing Dainty Davy whilst
   accompanying herself on piano, also came to the workshops. She soon
   progressed via whistle to fiddle (taught by Tony Corcoran at St
   Dominicas) and when I had an Archie Dagg set of pipes for sale, her
   father Mike said, aIall buy them for Kathryna.  Starting in the
   beginnersa class with Dennis Ogle she quickly progressed to the
   advanced class with Chris.  These so called aadvanced classesa were
   more shared sessions than classes but were great times and true
   learning went on I think.

   Times moved on, The Buddle Arts Centre decided to concentrate on
   concerts rather than learning. The folk workshops ceased, I stopped
   travelling from Whittingham to Tyneside most Saturdays and concentrated
   on the amazing music surrounding me up at Mount Hooley. Sounds
   wonderful, and that bit was, but I was to suffer under the cosh of
   Government curriculum reformers intent on emasculating my subject
   (chemistry) almost out of existence. (A move to the Independent sector
   helped but eventual relief was only to be found abroad, where IGCSE
   chemistry provided a decent springboard to aAa  level) - enough!

   Chris went off to Liverpool to study geography and Kathryn continued at
   Gosforth High School and caused, incredulity, despair and almost
   mocking laughter from her teachers when she announced, in year 13,that
   she wouldnat be going to university but was setting her sights on a
   professional career in Traditional music! Sticking to her guns, that is
   exactly what she did!

   Here enters the villain of the piece letas call him Cid. We now know
   him as an infamous promoter, record producer and distributor who has
   trodden over many a talented musicianas career. His antics since buying
   out Leader records were the subject of a BBC Radio 4 documentary
   (broadcast 12 May 2007). Back in the 80s he seemed a reasonable lad.
   Chris signed up for a record contract with him and went on to record
   the sets now available for us to download (what a CD they would have
   made)! Part of Cidas business interests was the recording studio run by
   Geoff Heslop and Mickey Sweeney at Esldon where Kathryn did her early
   recordings. For reasons we can all have fun guessing at, Kathrynas CDs
   were  produced, promoted and went on to wide appeal, Chrisas
   masterpiece  was put on the shelf to gather dust. Not only did Cid sit
   on those recordings, he also put an embargo on the NPS using him on the
   aNew Horizonsa album. It was  extremely upsetting for all concerned
   (the tracks had already been recorded; one of them was a tune Chris
   wrote for me aDr Robb of Ellinghama) but devastating for Chris himself
   who had to drag around Cidas ball and chain for many a year!

   So thatas about the size of it, a cracking yarn but true, and Iam just
   full to busting at what these two have achieved. Between them they have
   delighted, moved and captivated the full spectrum of pipes lovers
   around the world and some would say even the angels too.

   As aye
   Anthony
   --- On Sun, 15/3/09, Chris Ormston ch...@chrisormston.com wrote:

 From: Chris Ormston ch...@chrisormston.com
 Subject: [NSP] Re: The Lost Music of Newsham
 To: 'Dartmouth NSP' nsp@cs.dartmouth.edu
 Date: Sunday, 15 March, 2009, 6:37 PM

   The recordings were made in 1987 as part of a plan to release an album
   of
   the Clough MS. The album never appeared for reasons I cannot disclose
   without creating more antagonism, unfortunately!  They were recorded on
   old-fashioned reel-to-reel tape, and were never fully completed, but
   I've
   tidied them up as best as I can.
   Glad you enjoy them!
   Chris
   -Original Message-
   From: Robert Greef [mailto:[1]rob

[NSP] Re: The Lost Music of Newsham

2009-03-16 Thread Gibbons, John
'I can feel a jig coming on!'
Or a dirge - given the speed these recordings came out?

John 

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From: nsp-request+j.gibbons=ic.ac...@cs.dartmouth.edu 
[mailto:nsp-request+j.gibbons=ic.ac...@cs.dartmouth.edu] On Behalf Of Francis 
Wood
Sent: 16 March 2009 11:21
To: julia@nspipes.co.uk
Cc: 'Dartmouth NSP'; Chris Ormston; Anthony Robb
Subject: [NSP] Re: The Lost Music of Newsham


On 16 Mar 2009, at 11:02, julia@nspipes.co.uk wrote:

 However, despite Cid the Ciderer's (I can feel a jig coming on!)
 best efforts . . . .

Good to have insider information.

Huge thanks to Chris for the music!

Francis



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[NSP] Re: The Lost Music of Newsham

2009-03-16 Thread Ian Lawther
I am in the process of building a website for the Northumbrian 
Smallpipes Society of North America and at present as a holding page I 
have a collection of Youtube videos on pipers.  Many of you will have 
seen some or all of these but  the current discussion prompted me to 
point to the webpage and that they are gathered in one place. Email me 
if you know of more (I know there are some of Chris Evans out there).



The page is linked from www.nspsna.org and most of the videos are from 
Chris and Steve Douglas's youtube channels.


Ian



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[NSP] Re: The Lost Music of Newsham

2009-03-15 Thread Paul Rhodes
   Thank you so much for these super recordings Chris.

   It's easy, with all the antagonism that turns up on this forum, to
   forget that most folks who play the Northumbrian Pipes are
   friendly, and generous with their expertise and talents. Good website
   too.

   Out of interest, how did you make the recordings, and what mikes do you
   use?

   all the best,

   Paul

Date: Sun, 15 Mar 2009 12:28:27 +
To: nsp@cs.dartmouth.edu
From: ch...@chrisormston.com
Subject: [NSP] The Lost Music of Newsham
   
Hi All,
   
In the new-found spirit of altruism on this list, and for those of
   you
who've not already had a bootleg copy, I've uploaded some tracks of
tunes from the Clough MS here:
   
   
[1]http://chrisormston.com/clough.aspx
   
   
   
Chris Ormston
   
chrisormston.com
   
borderdirectors.com
   
   
   
   
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1. http://chrisormston.com/clough.aspx
   
   
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[NSP] Re: The Lost Music of Newsham

2009-03-15 Thread Robert Greef

Hear Hear to that!

Interesting query, too. Trade secrets?
Robert

- Original Message - 
From: Paul Rhodes oxpi...@hotmail.com

To: Dartmouth NSP nsp@cs.dartmouth.edu
Sent: Sunday, March 15, 2009 2:36 PM
Subject: [NSP] Re: The Lost Music of Newsham




  Thank you so much for these super recordings Chris.

  It's easy, with all the antagonism that turns up on this forum, to
  forget that most folks who play the Northumbrian Pipes are
  friendly, and generous with their expertise and talents. Good website
  too.

  Out of interest, how did you make the recordings, and what mikes do you
  use?

  all the best,

  Paul

   Date: Sun, 15 Mar 2009 12:28:27 +
   To: nsp@cs.dartmouth.edu
   From: ch...@chrisormston.com
   Subject: [NSP] The Lost Music of Newsham
  
   Hi All,
  
   In the new-found spirit of altruism on this list, and for those of
  you
   who've not already had a bootleg copy, I've uploaded some tracks of
   tunes from the Clough MS here:
  
  
   [1]http://chrisormston.com/clough.aspx
  
  
  
   Chris Ormston






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[NSP] Re: The Lost Music of Newsham

2009-03-15 Thread Chris Ormston
The recordings were made in 1987 as part of a plan to release an album of
the Clough MS. The album never appeared for reasons I cannot disclose
without creating more antagonism, unfortunately!  They were recorded on
old-fashioned reel-to-reel tape, and were never fully completed, but I've
tidied them up as best as I can.

Glad you enjoy them!

Chris




-Original Message-
From: Robert Greef [mailto:rob...@greef.fsnet.co.uk] 
Sent: 15 March 2009 16:25
To: Dartmouth NSP
Subject: [NSP] Re: The Lost Music of Newsham

Hear Hear to that!

Interesting query, too. Trade secrets?
Robert

- Original Message - 
From: Paul Rhodes oxpi...@hotmail.com
To: Dartmouth NSP nsp@cs.dartmouth.edu
Sent: Sunday, March 15, 2009 2:36 PM
Subject: [NSP] Re: The Lost Music of Newsham


 
   Thank you so much for these super recordings Chris.
 
   It's easy, with all the antagonism that turns up on this forum, to
   forget that most folks who play the Northumbrian Pipes are
   friendly, and generous with their expertise and talents. Good website
   too.
 
   Out of interest, how did you make the recordings, and what mikes do you
   use?
 
   all the best,
 
   Paul
 
Date: Sun, 15 Mar 2009 12:28:27 +
To: nsp@cs.dartmouth.edu
From: ch...@chrisormston.com
Subject: [NSP] The Lost Music of Newsham
   
Hi All,
   
In the new-found spirit of altruism on this list, and for those of
   you
who've not already had a bootleg copy, I've uploaded some tracks of
tunes from the Clough MS here:
   
   
[1]http://chrisormston.com/clough.aspx
   
   
   
Chris Ormston





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[NSP] Re: The Lost Music of Newsham (and mics)

2009-03-15 Thread anthony

   Great stuff Chris!
   I've your prize winning duet set (with Cathy Goss) from the same
   Rothbury bash. Do I have your permission to include it in my walk down
   memory lane?
   As for your recordings; there's a familiar air about these and if I'm
   correct they were very probably recorded with AKG 451s. The people
   involved  at the time (If the cider manufacturer has anything to do
   with it) swore by AKG 414s for vocals and 451s for instruments.
   The ideal mics for pipes have as flat a frequency response as possible.
   Bruel  Kaejer 406s were unbeatable in this respect but they cost 5
   times as much marginal improvement offered. These days many
   professional engineers go for sE electronics. They are made to the
   highest standards in China. The sE 4 has wowed the pros as a little
   stunner costing just under A-L-250 (about the same as a 451). The sE
   4400a has an even flatter response but these are A-L-850 for a matched
   pair.
   If money's no object go for Schoeps at about A-L-1500 apiece. (specs
   very similar to 4400a!)
   As aye
   Anthony
   --- On Sun, 15/3/09, Chris Ormston ch...@chrisormston.com wrote:

 From: Chris Ormston ch...@chrisormston.com
 Subject: [NSP] The Lost Music of Newsham
 To: 'NSP List' nsp@cs.dartmouth.edu
 Date: Sunday, 15 March, 2009, 12:28 PM

  Hi All,
  In the new-found spirit of altruism on this list, and for those of
   you
  who've not already had a bootleg copy, I've uploaded some tracks of
  tunes from the Clough MS here:
  [1][1]http://chrisormston.com/clough.aspx
  Chris Ormston
  chrisormston.com
  borderdirectors.com
  --
   References
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[NSP] Re: The Lost Music of Newsham (and mics)

2009-03-15 Thread Chris Ormston
-Original Message-
From: anth...@robbpipes.com [mailto:anth...@robbpipes.com] 
Sent: 15 March 2009 22:42
To: 'NSP List'; Chris Ormston
Subject: [NSP] Re: The Lost Music of Newsham (and mics)


   Great stuff Chris!
   I've your prize winning duet set (with Cathy Goss) from the same
   Rothbury bash. Do I have your permission to include it in my walk down
   memory lane?

YES! Though I remember getting lost at one point - nobody's perfect!

   As for your recordings; there's a familiar air about these and if I'm
   correct they were very probably recorded with AKG 451s. The people
   involved  at the time (If the cider manufacturer has anything to do
   with it) swore by AKG 414s for vocals and 451s for instruments.
   The ideal mics for pipes have as flat a frequency response as possible.
   Bruel  Kaejer 406s were unbeatable in this respect but they cost 5
   times as much marginal improvement offered. These days many
   professional engineers go for sE electronics. They are made to the
   highest standards in China. The sE 4 has wowed the pros as a little
   stunner costing just under A-L-250 (about the same as a 451). The sE
   4400a has an even flatter response but these are A-L-850 for a matched
   pair.
   If money's no object go for Schoeps at about A-L-1500 apiece. (specs
   very similar to 4400a!)
   As aye
   Anthony

Yes it was Mr Magners! As for mics - I just play the pipes grin

Chris
   --- On Sun, 15/3/09, Chris Ormston ch...@chrisormston.com wrote:

 From: Chris Ormston ch...@chrisormston.com
 Subject: [NSP] The Lost Music of Newsham
 To: 'NSP List' nsp@cs.dartmouth.edu
 Date: Sunday, 15 March, 2009, 12:28 PM

  Hi All,
  In the new-found spirit of altruism on this list, and for those of
   you
  who've not already had a bootleg copy, I've uploaded some tracks of
  tunes from the Clough MS here:
  [1][1]http://chrisormston.com/clough.aspx
  Chris Ormston
  chrisormston.com
  borderdirectors.com
  --
   References
  1. [2]http://chrisormston.com/clough.aspx
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   2. http://chrisormston.com/clough.aspx
   3. http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html