[NSWolves] Re: Darren Ferguson anyone? [sec=unclassified]

2009-11-10 Thread Jeremy Tonks
Steve Morgan has impressed me as an astute businessman (the Wolves' purchase notwithstanding ;) I doubt that he is looking too hard for another, not quite world class, manager. Is he in it for the long haul? Or is this an instant gratification thing and if we haven't sown up a Europe spot by Christ

[NSWolves] Re: Darren Ferguson anyone? [sec=unclassified]

2009-11-10 Thread Morris, Lee SGT
It isn't looking like MM is the outstanding manager we are all looking for. I think there were plenty who thought that even when we were top of the championship (I still can't believe we pulled through that very dodgy period to gain automatic promotion) I find it interesting that whilst MM say's

[NSWolves] Re: Darren Ferguson anyone? [sec=unclassified]

2009-11-10 Thread LEESE Matthew
So do those in the doubters' corner believe that we're underachieving this year and so should be considering a change in manager? If so, what was your expectation for the season? I wouldn't have expected anything other than for us to be floating in and out of the bottom 3 for most of the season.

[NSWolves] Re: Darren Ferguson anyone? [sec=unclassified]

2009-11-10 Thread pcrowe
I firmly believe all this talk of replacing MM is premature. I still have faith and hope that he will turn things around for us. This team is arguably the best one we have had to support in the last 20 years or more. Certainly the most youthful with potential to improve. The team will be s

[NSWolves] Re: Darren Ferguson anyone? [sec=unclassified]

2009-11-10 Thread Jeremy Tonks
This is getting interesting. I'm not sure one Sir Alex proves Marcus' case. There have been outstanding managers but they're few and far between and they then attract the sort of money and luck that Fergy has. It is a vicious circle - "If we play well, start getting results." Don't we need the mon

[NSWolves] Re: Darren Ferguson anyone? [sec=unclassified]

2009-11-10 Thread Jeremy Tonks
Yes, I think we're agreed that success or failure reflects on the manager - but can the manager do anything to influence that success or failure? Is he carrying too much weight and responsibility without enough influence? _ From: nswolves@googlegroups.com [mailto:nswol...@googlegroups.

[NSWolves] Re: Darren Ferguson anyone? [sec=unclassified]

2009-11-10 Thread Morris, Lee SGT
Whilst I do believe we have changed managers far to frequently in the past, I think Marcus is correct. The success or failure of any football team ultimately reflects on the manager, at Wolves MM recruits, directs coaching sessions, picks the team for match day, makes substitutions, etc, etc...he

[NSWolves] Re: Darren Ferguson anyone? [sec=unclassified]

2009-11-10 Thread Marcus Chantry
As usual, I disagree. I believe managers are responsible for building and controlling the culture within their clubs, dictate the work ethic of the club and the style of play for the club. The better ones will also have major influence on the recruitment/development strategy for the club. A perfe

[NSWolves] Re: Darren Ferguson anyone? [sec=unclassified]

2009-11-10 Thread Steven Millward
My concern with this is that you seem to be concluding that the manager is almost entirely responsible for the success of the club. I have read research in the past that says that the manager has very little to do with the success of the club. It's mostly down to money and luck. The manager gets

[NSWolves] Re: Fergy [sec=unclassified]

2009-11-10 Thread Morris, Lee SGT
I know, that's what I'm sayingIF anyone else is going to come in there has to be enough time for them to sort us out. So IF we are in a dire position in six weeks time, maybe then is the time. Again, if we were to get the points against the likes of Bolton and Brum in the coming weeks, I'll b

[NSWolves] Re: Fergy [sec=unclassified]

2009-11-10 Thread Jeremy Tonks
I would have trouble viewing the appointment of DF as a forward step. We've been promoted from the fizzy pop so we won't need someone to do that again until next year. _ From: nswolves@googlegroups.com [mailto:nswol...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Marcus Chantry Sent: Wednesday, 11 N

[NSWolves] Re: Fergy [sec=unclassified]

2009-11-10 Thread Marcus Chantry
but it will never happen Lee because of the people who believe in all the sentimental clap-trap that you can't sack a manager straight after he got us promoted. It will take relegation and a poor start to next season to trigger a manager change at ou club, same as with DJ. Marcus Chantry | A

[NSWolves] Re: Darren Ferguson anyone? [sec=unclassified]

2009-11-10 Thread Marcus Chantry
I think he uses his left leg and his right leg together... Marcus Chantry | Associate Director Senior Product Manager - Macquarie Life Level 3, 1 Shelley Street, Sydney, NSW, 2000, Australia T +61 2 8232 4259 | M 0448 887 627 E marcus.chan...@macquarie.com P Please consider the e

[NSWolves] Fergy [sec=unclassified]

2009-11-10 Thread Morris, Lee SGT
When I mentioned the Darren Fergusson news story earlier I wasn't actually touting him as a replacement for MM. HOWEVER, Steve Morgan is a successful businessman, I'm pretty sure he would be starting to think "Hey hang on, this bloke may not be right for my business" maybe "Mr ?" is a better

[NSWolves] Re: Darren Ferguson anyone? [sec=unclassified]

2009-11-10 Thread Morris, Lee SGT
I wonder what Steve Morgan's stance is on all this? From: nswolves@googlegroups.com [mailto:nswol...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of pcr...@contechengineering.com Sent: Wednesday, 11 November 2009 10:05 To: nswolves@googlegroups.com Subject: [NSWolves] Re: Darr

[NSWolves] Re: Darren Ferguson anyone? [sec=unclassified]

2009-11-10 Thread Marcus Chantry
No need to apologise Paul, I don't have much confidence in my own financial acumen or decision making logic so I don't expect you or anyone else to find much value from it. I think for point 1 it's more around having experience at a top level, whether that be La Liga, Serie A, Liga Sagres or even

[NSWolves] Re: Darren Ferguson anyone? [sec=unclassified]

2009-11-10 Thread pcrowe
Sorry Marcus, Your jumps in logic and assumptions, points 1,2 and 3, were not what I implied in my email. Far from it. Sorry, I do not have your Financial acumen / programming to make the conclusions you have drawn. To be clear, my comments on your points as follows: 1. Disagree. F

[NSWolves] Tame Ladies Football Game

2009-11-10 Thread Paul Butcher
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[NSWolves] Re: Darren Ferguson anyone? [sec=unclassified]

2009-11-10 Thread Marcus Chantry
I might be a bit confused this morning but based on the comments from the previous emails it seems: 1) you can't manage a Premier League team unless you have a successful track record of managing a Premier League team - in that case how do get the opportunity to try? 2) on the basis that Thick Mi

[NSWolves] Re: Darren Ferguson anyone? [sec=unclassified]

2009-11-10 Thread Steven Millward
Boo! Thick Mick out! 2009/11/11 > Are you serious Lee? > > > > Posh are bottom of the League, that is why he has been sacked. Even though > I think it very harsh he has been sacked so quickly after successive > promotions. That said the management at Posh are obviously convinced he > can’t tur

[NSWolves] Re: Darren Ferguson anyone? [sec=unclassified]

2009-11-10 Thread pcrowe
Are you serious Lee? Posh are bottom of the League, that is why he has been sacked. Even though I think it very harsh he has been sacked so quickly after successive promotions. That said the management at Posh are obviously convinced he can't turn it around. Okay MM has been bottom of the

[NSWolves] Re: Darren Ferguson anyone? [sec=unclassified]

2009-11-10 Thread Marcus Chantry
I can only hope that he's a better manager than he was a player. Marcus Chantry | Associate Director Senior Product Manager - Macquarie Life Level 3, 1 Shelley Street, Sydney, NSW, 2000, Australia T +61 2 8232 4259 | M 0448 887 627 E marcus.chan...@macquarie.com P Please consider t

[NSWolves] Darren Ferguson anyone? [sec=unclassified]

2009-11-10 Thread Morris, Lee SGT
Just left Peterborough after two successive promotions. Would be ok with Sir Alex as assistant --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ Pig's pudding - it's a mon's dinner aer kid -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---