files is faster (i need to check and diff anyway)
can you test with this:
if name == "date" then
-- We could do some number juggling instead but this is fast
enough. There is
-- no error checking here so we assume a proper year. Maybe a
better name is
ote
> newer update without actually doing an update.
This is how I check for the remote version:
curl --silent --connect-timeout 5 \
'https://distribution.contextgarden.net/current/context/latest/tex/context/base/mkiv/context.mkiv'
| sed -ne '/\\edef\\contextversion/s/.*{\(.*\)}/\1/p'
Not
gt;> Even if it used the right certificate, it would not work right now
>> because of the move: there is nothing behind the connection.
>
> I used that server to check for the latest context version. What's
> the recommended way to check for the latest version? Basically the
> output of
ove: there is nothing behind the connection.
I used that server to check for the latest context version. What's
the recommended way to check for the latest version? Basically the
output of the \contextversion command?
Marco
__
ow, however, it seems the default in this case is a crash. Very
> > annoying in comparison with the earlier behaviour.
> > I might make a mistake, but the MWE is as simple as can be.
>
> Can you update your ConTeXt installation and check if the error remains,
> I tries
in comparison with the earlier behaviour.
I might make a mistake, but the MWE is as simple as can be.
Can you update your ConTeXt installation and check if the error remains,
I tries to your example on my machine (Windows 11) and wasn't able
to reproduce the problem.
Wolfgang
r{main}{text}{}
> \stoptext
>
> \xmldepth shows values that I think are +1 than they should be.
>
> \xmlpos counts in pairs and not in units (as you wrote, 2, 4, 6...).
>
> Hans, could you check whether this is working as expected?
>
> Sorry, but if this isn’t a bug, I
gt; indeed texshop uses the approach that avoids the library and just calls
> mtxrun to figure out the file/line that relates to the position; this is
> more reliable because there is no need to recompile a viewer when synctex
> updates
I just looked at the code of evince, and there is a fair
>
> It seems that the default mode for outer (external file) references is
> the "auto" mode. This one seems to load the whatever.pdf file, check the
> named destinations and decide based on that.
Many thanks for your explanation, Michal.
I was totally ignorant of the page k
e previous code, the only destination reads in the PDF source:
>
> 5 0 obj
> <<
> /D [ 0 /Fit ]
> /F (whatever.pdf)
> /S /GoToR
> >>
> endobj
It seems that the default mode for outer (external file) references is
the "auto" mode. Th
s
included in the document (which may lead to unintended consequences).
I have accidentally discovered this myself the other day and I’m going
to check the wiki to add this information (if not included).
Many thanks for your help,
Pablo
the file/line that relates to the position; this is
more reliable because there is no need to recompile a viewer when
synctex updates
you can run
mtxrun --script synctex
on the synctex file and check what areas are there
ConTeXt’s synctex format is much simpler than the “standard” LaTeX one
;join" (or "start" if you’re the first),
* click "with microphone", allow your browser to access it, check the audio.
* Your microphone is muted if you join. Activate microphone and/or
camera with the buttons at the bottom.
* Minimize the default presentation with the
Hi Pablo,
I am on Windows 10 and using Firefox 119 with default PDF.js.
I made a completely new profile to check and the issue exists there too.
Though after testing a bit I realized that the white lines appear on
specific zoom levels and disappear on others.
White lines appear on sumatra too
On 10/28/23 16:26, Mia Bikey wrote:
> Well I was using firefox to open my pdf and did not check it on anything
> else.
> I opened the pdf in sumatra, adobe, microsoft edge and yeah there is no
> white line.
> Seems like it is a firefox issue then.
Hi Mia,
opening your attachment w
Well I was using firefox to open my pdf and did not check it on anything
else.
I opened the pdf in sumatra, adobe, microsoft edge and yeah there is no
white line.
Seems like it is a firefox issue then.
Thank You
On Sat, Oct 28, 2023 at 7:50 PM Wolfgang Schuster <
wolfgang.schuster.li...@gmail.
bars in
your PDF.
But your code gives apparently correct results on my machine,
ConTeXt ver: 2023.09.26 18:19 LMTX fmt: 2023.10.19
Maybe try to re-make the format? Check all files in the log – is there
something from a local/personal texmf tree?
Many thanks, Henning. I tried remaking the for
.
But your code gives apparently correct results on my machine,
ConTeXt ver: 2023.09.26 18:19 LMTX fmt: 2023.10.19
Maybe try to re-make the format? Check all files in the log – is there
something from a local/personal texmf tree?
Hraban
r documentation for ConTeXt somewhere?
\usesymbols[fontawesome]
\startTEXpage[offset=1ts]
\symbol[fontawesome-solid][times]\quad
\symbol[fontawesome-solid][check]
\stopTEXpage
you can run symb-imp-fonta
sn't show the "yes", nor Acrobat X, but SumatraPDF does. I
> > modified your definition as:
> >
> > \definefield[test][check][cbox][][]
> >
> > And now the "yes" doesn't appear. However, I don't know how this affects
> > the functionality of the for
eispiel]
\cite[authoryear] [WiFo2010]
\cite[authoryear] [rattenhka]
\stoptext
"""
But I get the error message:
"""
system > error: invalid parent apa for beispiel, apa defined
too (best check it)
system > error: invalid parent btx:apa
Am 02.10.23 um 04:00 schrieb Andres Conrado Montoya:
In the wiki, if I click a link to check a source code file (for example
https://source.contextgarden.net/tex/context/base/mkiv/m-catchword.mkiv
<https://source.contextgarden.net/tex/context/base/mkiv/m-catchword.mkiv>) I get a blan
In the wiki, if I click a link to check a source code file (for example
https://source.contextgarden.net/tex/context/base/mkiv/m-catchword.mkiv) I
get a blank page with a very long list of source files on the left. If I
search for the file with my browser's ctrl+f on that page, it returns zero
\stopmathcases
10 >> \stopformula
11 \stoptext
i'll check it tomorrow (witk mikael who has a newer bin and first we
need to test some other math things) ... i probably need some temp hack
because the build farm is still down (an
the extra fonts in
/texmf-fonts/fonts/data as Hraban advises.
But to make a "set OSFONTDIR=c:\windows\fonts" is allways necessary I
presume (in order to make CTX able to use windows fonts) ?
The file mtxrun.lua contains the following check which sets default
paths on Windows a
ike a mismatch in binary (you can compile luametatex yourself and
then update the bin if ther eis some platform issue)
the compile farm is down (Mojca has to replace the machine) so I can't
check it
H
but unlike the other predefined
layouts for sections you don't have to write "alternative=command" to
use the layout which is passed to the command key.
To make this work ConTeXt has to check whether the argument of the
command key is empty or not but this is problematic when you pass
. The first one triggers a
check for pending contributions while the second forces it using a
penalty which can have side effects.
One problem is that pagegoal and pagetotal are not always reliable.
There is a wrap up about this which isnot yet in the disibution because
it is part of a larger
, I compiled with:
cmake -S . -B build -DCMAKE_BUILD_TYPE=Release
-DCMAKE_EXECUTABLE_ENABLE_EXPORTS=1
cmake --build build -j10
You can check the difference in dynamic symobls with:
readelf --dyn-syms build/luametatex
Note, that while this approach doesn't require any modification to
8:22 AM, denis.ma...@unibe.ch wrote:
Thanks for your help. I can use that, but why is this sort of double-checking
necessary here?
because containsa in a function that has checking while find is just the lua
find
.. so i've added a check in that one too now but no upload
So, that would mean
nis.ma...@unibe.ch wrote:
>
> > Thanks for your help. I can use that, but why is this sort of
> > double-checking
> necessary here?
>
> because containsa in a function that has checking while find is just the lua
> find
> .. so i've added a check in that one too now
> wrote:
>
> […]
>
>
> I would drop the column check in this case.
>
> for i = 0,9 do
> context.startxrow()
> context.startxcell()
> context(i)
> context.stopxcell()
>
On 8/25/2023 8:22 AM, denis.ma...@unibe.ch wrote:
Thanks for your help. I can use that, but why is this sort of double-checking
necessary here?
because containsa in a function that has checking while find is just the
lua find .. so i've added a check in that one too now but no upload
Hans
; when you have multiple searches
> to perform, that may be the easiest way to go. For example:
>
...
>
> Hope that gets you started.
>
> Thomas
Thank you, Thomas. Yes, that get's me started. But same question applies this
solution too: Why do you need to double check? (I guess the a
> -Ursprüngliche Nachricht-
> Von: Hans Hagen
> Gesendet: Donnerstag, 24. August 2023 16:54
> An: ntg-context@ntg.nl
> Betreff: [NTG-context] Re: xmldoif: checking for contents of attribute
>
> On 8/24/2023 4:11 PM, denis.ma...@unibe.ch wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
Otared Kavian schrieb am 24.08.2023 um 12:50:
On 24 Aug 2023, at 06:03, Wolfgang Schuster
<mailto:wolfgang.schuster.li...@gmail.com>> wrote:
[…]
I would drop the column check in this case.
for i = 0,9 do
context.startxrow()
context.s
On 8/24/2023 4:11 PM, denis.ma...@unibe.ch wrote:
Hi,
I'm trying to check whether an attribute contains (or, actually starts with) a
given string.
I've tried a whole bunch of different combinations, but I've had no luck so
far. Minimal example below. Anyone has a hint?
Best,
Denis
opluacode
\startbuffer[test]
Yes
No
\stopbuffer
\starttext
\xmlprocessbuffer{test}{test}{}
\stoptext
Hope that gets you started.
Thomas
> On 24. Aug 2023, at 16:11, denis.ma...@unibe.ch wrote:
>
> Hi,
> I’m trying to check whether an attribute contains (or, actually st
Hi,
I'm trying to check whether an attribute contains (or, actually starts with) a
given string.
I've tried a whole bunch of different combinations, but I've had no luck so
far. Minimal example below. Anyone has a hint?
Best,
Denis
> On 24 Aug 2023, at 06:03, Wolfgang Schuster
> wrote:
>> […]
>
> I would drop the column check in this case.
>
> for i = 0,9 do
> context.startxrow()
> context.startxcell()
> context(i)
> context.stopxcel
elseif j == 2 then
> context(math.mod(i*i,10))
> elseif j == 3 then
> context(i)
> else
> context(math.mod(2*i*i,10))
> end
> context.stopxcell()
> end
> context.stopxrow()
> end
th.mod(i*i,10))
elseif j == 3 then
context(i)
else
context(math.mod(2*i*i,10))
end
context.stopxcell()
end
context.stopxrow()
end
I would drop the column check in this case.
for i = 0,9 do
context.startxrow()
context.star
. Please check the list, and if you don't
find yourself in the list, please, register again.
Sorry for the inconvenience,
Jano
We have registrations of:
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).
\ifxml{#1}{/foo}
a
\orelse\ifxml{#1}{/ofo}
b
\orelse\ifxml{#1}{/oof}
c
\orelse\ifempty{xmlatt{#1}{n}}
d
% could also be a check for number first:
\orelse\ifnum\xmlattr{#1}{n}>10\relax % of \norelax
e
\fi
etc (see lowlevel manual) can look a bit less messy that using 5 nested
\doifels
requires \sc because it
provides a separate file for smallcaps but no smcp feature.
ConTeXt has a command which can be used to check whether the current
active font provides the smcp feature but the recommended way is to
choose a font which supports to method (\sc or \setsmallcaps) which is
used
.
ConTeXt has a command which can be used to check whether the current
active font provides the smcp feature but the recommended way is to
choose a font which supports to method (\sc or \setsmallcaps) which is
used in the document.
Ah, yes (and a similar point can be made about slanted/oblique (\sl
makes sense in an opentype-features world. New users
should no longer use it.
It depends on the font, e.g. Latin Modern still requires \sc because it
provides a separate file for smallcaps but no smcp feature.
ConTeXt has a command which can be used to check whether the current
active font
cumvent body
> font size with a given width, while keeping both: the kern of \TeX\
> and the double spacing that lmtx injects following a sentence,
> within sanity check, hence the nonfrenchspacing
>
> The separation of any of these four components would have hurt T
> E X sig
Is that the complete document? What do you have in mind with obeying
> lines in the middle of a paragraph?
it's the only possible way off the top of my head to circumvent body
font size with a given width, while keeping both: the kern of \TeX\
and the double spacing that lmtx injec
zeverbatim
and then
\startsetups typing:mine
\setbreakpoints[compound]
\stopsetups
with
\starttyping[lines=yes,setups=typing:mine]
I need Wolfgang to check it for possible interferen
gparameter
\to \everyinitializeverbatim
and then
\startsetups typing:mine
\setbreakpoints[compound]
\stopsetups
with
\starttyping[lines=yes,setups=typing:mine]
I need Wolfgang to check it for possible interferen
On Tue, 2023-08-15 at 18:22 +0200, Hans Hagen wrote:
> On 8/15/2023 5:33 PM, Hamid,Idris wrote:
>
>
> > so [\s!designsize=\s!auto] means there is no explicit call to
lmroman8-regular etc.? Interesting..
>
>
> check the lfg file ...
On that note, there seem
, Hamid,Idris wrote:
so [\s!designsize=\s!auto] means there is no explicit call to lmroman8-regular
etc.? Interesting..
check the lfg file ...
___
If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry
> and then you realize that you are the one going to wikify it
Fine (https://wiki.contextgarden.net/Dimensions could be expanded that
way), but I need to check the new units first.
Many thanks for your help,
Pablo
On 8/15/23 17:35, Xavier B. wrote:
> I have the document split in several files.
Hi Xavier,
as someone already mentioned it, the way to check would be:
mtxrun --scripts check your-document.tex
But this doesn‘t parse \input, so you need to create a loop.
In Unix, it would read something l
On 8/15/2023 5:33 PM, Hamid,Idris wrote:
so [\s!designsize=\s!auto] means there is no explicit call to lmroman8-regular
etc.? Interesting..
check the lfg file ...
Hans
-
Hans Hagen
flushing realpage 297, userpage 295, subpage 297
structures > end of sectionblock 'backpart'
close source> level 1, order 147, name './ng-exercicis.conTeXt'
(\end occurred inside a group at level 8)
8:0: semisimple group entered at line 276: \begingroup
so check what st
art...
Can anyone help me?
Thanks,
Xavier
PS: I receive this error after upgrading to MKIV to LMTX. Before with MKIV I
get no errors.
I suspect that LMTX is a bit more strict about parsing. You have
omitted the required \par for each \head.
Perhaps the mtxrun check script (ht
Am 10.08.23 um 17:02 schrieb Wolfgang Schuster:
indeed that was the issue, seems like i generated the update but
didn't push it, can you check again?
It works now as expected.
Confirmed.
Thank you!
Hraban
dummyparameter{a}
\dummyparameter{b}
% b is still \endgroup
\getdummyparameters[a=,b=]
\dummyparameter{a}
\dummyparameter{b}
\stoptext
indeed that was the issue, seems like i generated the update but
didn't push it, can you
group
\getdummyparameters[a=,b=]
\dummyparameter{a}
\dummyparameter{b}
\stoptext
indeed that was the issue, seems like i generated the update but didn't
push it, can you check again?
Hans
-
Han
On 8/9/2023 12:10 PM, denis.ma...@unibe.ch wrote:
Keith, you can also check hyphenations using a script:
-- check-hyphens.lua
--[[
analyze hyphenations based on a ConTeXt log file
enable hyphenation tracking in the ConTeXt file with
\enabletrackers[hyphenation.applied
Keith, you can also check hyphenations using a script:
-- check-hyphens.lua
--[[
analyze hyphenations based on a ConTeXt log file
enable hyphenation tracking in the ConTeXt file with
\enabletrackers[hyphenation.applied]
then run this script with
lua check-hyphens.lua
should
work (WebRTC required).
* Open the above URL, accept the privacy statement,
* enter your name,
* click "join" (or "start" if you’re the first),
* click "with microphone", allow your browser to access it, check the
audio.
* Your microphone is muted if you join. Acti
need this but we need to educate the user to wrap settings in the
% wrappers. So some day the next line will go. I need to check what commands are
% possible outside a picture.
\overloadmode\zerocount
\newtoks\everytikzpicture
\newtoks\everyinsidetikzpicture
% \appendtoks
% \resetcharacterspa
t; >\stoptext
> >
>
> > In any case, the PDF viewer used to search must have ActualText implemented.
>
> Exactly. And e.g. Apple’s PDF library has not; it is used not only by
> Preview.app, but also by Skim and Te
(or "start" if you’re the first),
* click "with microphone", allow your browser to access it, check the audio.
* Your microphone is muted if you join. Activate microphone and/or
camera with the buttons at the bottom.
* Minimize the default presentation with the "screen
implemented.
Exactly. And e.g. Apple’s PDF library has not; it is used not only by
Preview.app, but also by Skim and TeXshop. (I should check this with
other viewers/libs.)
Hraban
___
If your question is of interest
> On 18 Jul 2023, at 23:30, Wolfgang Schuster
> wrote:
>
> Gerben Wierda schrieb am 18.07.2023 um 23:23:
>>> Check all entries with \definefontfamily, maybe something isn't commented
>>> but should be.
>>>
>>
Gerben Wierda schrieb am 18.07.2023 um 23:23:
Check all entries with \definefontfamily, maybe something isn't
commented but should be.
Wolfgang
Everything font in my file:
[...]
\definefontfeature [expandophian] [extend=1.025]
\definefontfamily
[archimate]
[ss]
[Ophian]
[features
tespace on top of the first page
>>>
>>> so, just grep for that orphaned text snippet in your style / document
>>
>>
>> Hmm, it ('syle') is nowhere to be found in my documents. The 'syle' typo is
>> found twice in ConTeXt itself, but only in manuals.
&
ce on top of the first page
so, just grep for that orphaned text snippet in your style / document
Hmm, it ('syle') is nowhere to be found in my documents. The 'syle'
typo is found twice in ConTeXt itself, but only in manuals.
Check all entries with \definefontfamily, maybe something isn't
commented b
… or what is meant with "table"?
* Is there a script that lists all files involved in a ConTeXt run?
Preferably filterable by "part of the distribution" / images / sources?
I’d like to check if all used files are checked in my git repository to
be sure the pro
required; most modern browsers should
work (WebRTC required).
* Open the above URL, accept the privacy statement,
* enter your name,
* click "join" (or "start" if you’re the first),
* click "with microphone", allow your browser to access it, check the
audio.
* Your m
as
getting even less tracing clutter (the kind of changes for Wolfgang to
check -)
- as aside effect there is some performance gain (there is not that
much more to gain now unless we go ugly); this all depends on usage of
course
- at some point some of the more obscure middle level helpers (dating
ontext] new upload
>
> Hi,
>
> No functional changes this time:
>
> - some more consistent usage of new primitives instead of helper macros, also
> a bit of a look and feel related effort as well as getting even less tracing
> clutter
> (the kind of changes for Wolfgang to
Hi,
No functional changes this time:
- some more consistent usage of new primitives instead of helper macros,
also a bit of a look and feel related effort as well as getting even
less tracing clutter (the kind of changes for Wolfgang to check -)
- as aside effect there is some performance
, accept the privacy statement,
* enter your name,
* click "join" (or "start" if you’re the first),
* click "with microphone", allow your browser to access it, check the audio.
* Your microphone is muted if you join. Activate microphone and/or
camera with the butt
in the distribution?
I'll check it but no time today.
btw ... as you like low level hacking ...
pdftex has a mechanism called pgc (pdf glyph containers) and these are
used when no pk font is found (which also means: no map entry)
\pdffont ... =
\pdfscale 1000
\pdfglyph 1 100 0 0 100 100
... pdf code
ybe bad metricks then but
> > > > > I'm
> > > > > not going to look into that as the official TUG lucida opentype fonts
> > > > > perform okay.
> > > > >
> > > > > Hans
> > > >
> > > > The first sentence
; > > \stoptypescript
> > > > Hm, isn't that this lucida rip off again? Maybe bad metricks then but
> > > > I'm
> > > > not going to look into that as the official TUG lucida opentype fonts
> > > > perform okay.
> > > >
> > >
e to ever set foot on
planet earth, owned or included the Lucida family on every java runtime
environment that there was. This piece of software was also
involuntarily required to run quite a few of programs.
Anyhow. Heck. Let's check the company's revenue:
Revenue Increase US$49.95 billion (2023)
gt; > > perform okay.
> > >
> > > Hans
> >
> > The first sentence is irrelevant. And a guess. Bad metrics is not the
> > culprit
> >
> > if it were true, the same problem would be under lualatex, correct?
>
> well, who knows what (me)tri
math)
But it's not there.
I can't (and won't) check that as I don't have (lua)latex installed nor
have those fonts. I also don't see where this \qquad is in your example.
As for the \showmakup ... it is used extensively and afaiks there are no
issues with it.
Hans
Dear list,
it is still early development, but this tool might be extremely useful
to check PDF documents.
Direct link to downloads (version 1.25 doesn’t seem to be available):
https://software.verapdf.org/develop/arlington/1.23
Just in case it might help,
Pablo
Forwarded Message
ht now) as well
as the official palatino nova cd (in opentype format); I got them from
the master himself, which makes them even more special. (It reminds me
that I need to check if we can drop in replacements in the pagella math.)
,
* click "join" (or "start" if you’re the first),
* click "with microphone", allow your browser to access it, check the
audio.
* Your microphone is muted if you join. Activate microphone and/or
camera with the buttons at the bottom.
* Minimize the default presentation wi
ms remain (e.g.
breve, check, dot, widehat). It also affects the sizing of limiters and
e.g. underbraces.
Why do font fallbacks for non-math fonts affect math at all?
Hraban
___
If your question is of interest
math to no avail.
My example uses Cambria, but it’s the same with other fonts.
(BTW, in \bar{b} with Libertinus, the bar looks too high.)
Hraban
\definefontfallback[symbolaFB]
[file:symbola.otf]
[0x0-0xF]
[check=no,force=no]
\definefontfallback[arialFB]
[name:arialunicodems]
[0x0
or find(n,"optex")
> > -- or find(n,"luatex")
> > -- or find(n,"pdftex")
> > )
> > end
> so an alternative is to ignore deleting those two files
>
> what is in lualatex that we need? can hardly be something generic
pg
software installation required; most modern browsers should
work (WebRTC required).
* Open the above URL, accept the privacy statement,
* enter your name,
* click "join" (or "start" if you’re the first),
* click "with microphone", allow your browser to access it, chec
)
-- or find(n,"pdftex")
)
end
so an alternative is to ignore deleting those two files
what is in lualatex that we need? can hardly be something generic
(it being pretty big makes me wonder if we should have texmf-tikz for it
as i don't want to polute the modules tree to
gt; > $ export PATH=/home/myname/.local/share/context/tex/texmf-linux-64/bin:$PATH
> > $ context some-sample-context-file.tex
> >
> > Did I miss anything? It works just fine.
>
> On a new machine and pgfsys-luatex.def is missing for me as well. I'll try to
> check wh
I miss anything? It works just fine.
>
> On a new machine and pgfsys-luatex.def is missing for me as well. I'll try to
> check what is going on.
This was a bit crazy to track down. Here is the fix:
In line 180 of mtx-install-modules.lua, comment the line
or find(n,"luatex&qu
rt PATH=/home/myname/.local/share/context/tex/texmf-linux-64/bin:$PATH
> $ context some-sample-context-file.tex
>
> Did I miss anything? It works just fine.
On a new machine and pgfsys-luatex.def is mi
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> webpage : https://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://context.aanhet.net
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I'll check it (we're experimenting a bit with alignments related to math)
Hans
Thank you for the quick fix.
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paragraph has been run through par.
This does not seem to create paragraphs with more lines, but they create
a very odd, choppy page. It does not prevent hyphenation, and sometimes
introduces it where none was present before.
Did I miss a change?
I'll check it (we're experimenting a bit
Am 29.05.23 um 16:47 schrieb Hans Hagen via ntg-context:
Is this also the right approach to check for the current page within a
float placement?
Like
\startplacefigure[]
\dontleavehmode\signalrightpage % necessary?
\doifelserightpage{RIGHT}{LEFT}
\doifelseoddpage {ODD }{EVEN
[alternative={singlesided,doublesided}]
\starttext
\dorecurse{200}{
\dontleavehmode\signalrightpage
\doifelserightpage{RIGHT}{LEFT}
\doifelseoddpage {ODD }{EVEN}
\par
}
\stoptext
The rightpage check combined with putting a signal at the spot where
you
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