Re: [NTG-context] Position of prime for derivatives

2017-06-08 Thread Hans Hagen
On 6/8/2017 4:29 PM, Aditya Mahajan wrote: On Thu, 8 Jun 2017, Mikael P. Sundqvist wrote: And indeed, in luatex 1.05 the primes look fine again. The prime in the fraction is too low, but I take Hans' "Such is life" and use \over for the rare cases where I have primes inside fractions. I

Re: [NTG-context] Position of prime for derivatives

2017-06-08 Thread Aditya Mahajan
On Thu, 8 Jun 2017, Mikael P. Sundqvist wrote: And indeed, in luatex 1.05 the primes look fine again. The prime in the fraction is too low, but I take Hans' "Such is life" and use \over for the rare cases where I have primes inside fractions. I haven't followed the thread carefully, but there

Re: [NTG-context] Position of prime for derivatives

2017-06-08 Thread Mikael P. Sundqvist
On Thu, Jun 8, 2017 at 10:42 AM, luigi scarso wrote: > On Thu, Jun 8, 2017 at 10:39 AM, Mikael P. Sundqvist wrote: >> I get the same error with revision 6349 from >> https://serveur-svn.lri.fr/svn/modhel/luatex/branches/experimental/ , >> see below. But

Re: [NTG-context] Position of prime for derivatives

2017-06-08 Thread luigi scarso
On Thu, Jun 8, 2017 at 10:39 AM, Mikael P. Sundqvist wrote: > I get the same error with revision 6349 from > https://serveur-svn.lri.fr/svn/modhel/luatex/branches/experimental/ , > see below. But maybe we are OT on this list now, and should either go > to luatex list or private?

Re: [NTG-context] Position of prime for derivatives

2017-06-08 Thread Mikael P. Sundqvist
On Thu, Jun 8, 2017 at 10:28 AM, Mikael P. Sundqvist wrote: > On Thu, Jun 8, 2017 at 10:17 AM, luigi scarso wrote: >> On Thu, Jun 8, 2017 at 9:52 AM, Mikael P. Sundqvist wrote: >>> PS: the ./build.sh (Checked out revision 6287) runs

Re: [NTG-context] Position of prime for derivatives

2017-06-08 Thread Mikael P. Sundqvist
On Thu, Jun 8, 2017 at 10:17 AM, luigi scarso wrote: > On Thu, Jun 8, 2017 at 9:52 AM, Mikael P. Sundqvist wrote: >> PS: the ./build.sh (Checked out revision 6287) runs for a while, and >> then stops with an error like this (it is probably my fault): >>

Re: [NTG-context] Position of prime for derivatives

2017-06-08 Thread luigi scarso
On Thu, Jun 8, 2017 at 9:52 AM, Mikael P. Sundqvist wrote: > PS: the ./build.sh (Checked out revision 6287) runs for a while, and > then stops with an error like this (it is probably my fault): > > Makefile:368: recipe for target >

Re: [NTG-context] Position of prime for derivatives

2017-06-08 Thread Mikael P. Sundqvist
On Wed, Jun 7, 2017 at 11:03 PM, Hans Hagen wrote: > On 6/7/2017 9:57 PM, Mikael P. Sundqvist wrote: > >> In 2017.06.06 13:22 something is still not correct. > > i mentioned that you need a new engine (the garden has 1.0.5 binafies for > windows but other platforms need to be

Re: [NTG-context] Position of prime for derivatives

2017-06-07 Thread Hans Hagen
On 6/7/2017 9:57 PM, Mikael P. Sundqvist wrote: In 2017.06.06 13:22 something is still not correct. i mentioned that you need a new engine (the garden has 1.0.5 binafies for windows but other platforms need to be generated) Hans

Re: [NTG-context] Position of prime for derivatives

2017-06-07 Thread Mikael P. Sundqvist
On Wed, Jun 7, 2017 at 9:57 PM, Mikael P. Sundqvist wrote: > On Mon, Jun 5, 2017 at 11:00 PM, Hans Hagen wrote: >> On 6/4/2017 11:06 PM, Otared Kavian wrote: >>> >>> Hi Mikael, >>> >>> Indeed your observation is correct, but using \over instead of \frac >>>

Re: [NTG-context] Position of prime for derivatives

2017-06-07 Thread Mikael P. Sundqvist
On Mon, Jun 5, 2017 at 11:00 PM, Hans Hagen wrote: > On 6/4/2017 11:06 PM, Otared Kavian wrote: >> >> Hi Mikael, >> >> Indeed your observation is correct, but using \over instead of \frac >> yields the correct behavior. Please try the following sample: >> >> %%% begin

Re: [NTG-context] Position of prime for derivatives

2017-06-05 Thread Hans Hagen
On 6/4/2017 11:06 PM, Otared Kavian wrote: Hi Mikael, Indeed your observation is correct, but using \over instead of \frac yields the correct behavior. Please try the following sample: %%% begin derivatives-prime-4.tex \setupbodyfont[lucidaot] \starttext Compare the position of the prime

Re: [NTG-context] Position of prime for derivatives

2017-06-04 Thread Otared Kavian
Hi Mikael, Indeed your observation is correct, but using \over instead of \frac yields the correct behavior. Please try the following sample: %%% begin derivatives-prime-4.tex \setupbodyfont[lucidaot] \starttext Compare the position of the prime sign in $f'/g$ in these two expressions: the

Re: [NTG-context] Position of prime for derivatives

2017-06-04 Thread Mikael P. Sundqvist
On Thu, May 25, 2017 at 8:05 PM, Mathias Schickel wrote: > >> Am 25.05.2017 um 18:59 schrieb Mikael P. Sundqvist : >> >> On Tue, May 23, 2017 at 5:02 PM, Mikael P. Sundqvist >> wrote: >>> On Tue, May 23, 2017 at 11:58 AM, Mathias

Re: [NTG-context] Position of prime for derivatives

2017-05-25 Thread Mathias Schickel
> Am 25.05.2017 um 18:59 schrieb Mikael P. Sundqvist : > > On Tue, May 23, 2017 at 5:02 PM, Mikael P. Sundqvist wrote: >> On Tue, May 23, 2017 at 11:58 AM, Mathias Schickel >> wrote: >>> Hi Mikael and Otared, >>> >>> I can confirm

Re: [NTG-context] Position of prime for derivatives

2017-05-25 Thread Mikael P. Sundqvist
On Tue, May 23, 2017 at 5:02 PM, Mikael P. Sundqvist wrote: > On Tue, May 23, 2017 at 11:58 AM, Mathias Schickel > wrote: >> Hi Mikael and Otared, >> >> I can confirm issues regarding primes, too. If you are using the STIX 2 >> fonts

Re: [NTG-context] Position of prime for derivatives

2017-05-23 Thread Mikael P. Sundqvist
On Tue, May 23, 2017 at 11:58 AM, Mathias Schickel wrote: > Hi Mikael and Otared, > > I can confirm issues regarding primes, too. If you are using the STIX 2 > fonts (http://www.stixfonts.org) and my example below you get a somewhat > strange behaviour of primes that is

Re: [NTG-context] Position of prime for derivatives

2017-05-23 Thread Mathias Schickel
Hi Mikael and Otared, I can confirm issues regarding primes, too. If you are using the STIX 2 fonts (http://www.stixfonts.org ) and my example below you get a somewhat strange behaviour of primes that is pretty obvious. I think the issues should be fixed. By the way

Re: [NTG-context] Position of prime for derivatives

2017-05-22 Thread Otared Kavian
Hi Mikael, You are correct, the position of \prime depends on whether there is a next character or not after it, and it seems that this has an effect on its position for characters having a subscript as in $f_{1}''(x) \neq f''_{1}(x)$ $f'f''f'’'$ Best regards: OK > On 22 May

Re: [NTG-context] Position of prime for derivatives

2017-05-22 Thread Mikael P. Sundqvist
On Sun, May 21, 2017 at 10:29 PM, Otared Kavian wrote: > Hi Mikael, > > I agree with what you are reporting: the current behavior of the \prime > operator is not completely satisfying when using ConTeXt mkiv, while in mkii > it is the most satisfying (in my opinion…). > > The

Re: [NTG-context] Position of prime for derivatives

2017-05-21 Thread Otared Kavian
Hi Mikael, I agree with what you are reporting: the current behavior of the \prime operator is not completely satisfying when using ConTeXt mkiv, while in mkii it is the most satisfying (in my opinion…). The turn around consisting in using $f^{‘’}$ or $f^{\prime\prime}$, or even

Re: [NTG-context] Position of prime for derivatives

2017-05-21 Thread Mikael P. Sundqvist
On Sat, May 20, 2017 at 7:32 PM, Mikael P. Sundqvist wrote: > On Sat, May 20, 2017 at 3:33 PM, Mikael P. Sundqvist wrote: >> On Thu, May 18, 2017 at 9:50 AM, Mikael P. Sundqvist >> wrote: >>> Den 18 maj 2017 10:13 fm skrev "Otared Kavian"

Re: [NTG-context] Position of prime for derivatives

2017-05-20 Thread Mikael P. Sundqvist
On Sat, May 20, 2017 at 3:33 PM, Mikael P. Sundqvist wrote: > On Thu, May 18, 2017 at 9:50 AM, Mikael P. Sundqvist wrote: >> Den 18 maj 2017 10:13 fm skrev "Otared Kavian" : >> >> Hi Hans, >> >> Thanks for your explanations. >> When using

Re: [NTG-context] Position of prime for derivatives

2017-05-20 Thread Mikael P. Sundqvist
On Thu, May 18, 2017 at 9:50 AM, Mikael P. Sundqvist wrote: > Den 18 maj 2017 10:13 fm skrev "Otared Kavian" : > > Hi Hans, > > Thanks for your explanations. > When using constructions such as $f’’_2(x)$, I will adapt my input in order > to get what seems

Re: [NTG-context] Position of prime for derivatives

2017-05-18 Thread Mikael P. Sundqvist
Den 18 maj 2017 10:13 fm skrev "Otared Kavian" : Hi Hans, Thanks for your explanations. When using constructions such as $f’’_2(x)$, I will adapt my input in order to get what seems correct. Best regards: OK > On 17 May 2017, at 17:17, Hans Hagen wrote: > >

Re: [NTG-context] Position of prime for derivatives

2017-05-18 Thread Otared Kavian
Hi Hans, Thanks for your explanations. When using constructions such as $f’’_2(x)$, I will adapt my input in order to get what seems correct. Best regards: OK > On 17 May 2017, at 17:17, Hans Hagen wrote: > > On 5/17/2017 8:35 AM, Otared Kavian wrote: >> Hi Hans, >> >>

Re: [NTG-context] Position of prime for derivatives

2017-05-17 Thread Hans Hagen
On 5/17/2017 8:35 AM, Otared Kavian wrote: Hi Hans, Thanks for having fixed the behavior of the prime in the latest beta release (ConTeXt version 2017.05.15 21:48). However, as you may see in the two attached PDF files, the result is still incorrect when one types for example $f_2’’(x)$,

[NTG-context] Position of prime for derivatives

2017-05-17 Thread Otared Kavian
Hi Hans, Thanks for having fixed the behavior of the prime in the latest beta release (ConTeXt version 2017.05.15 21:48). However, as you may see in the two attached PDF files, the result is still incorrect when one types for example $f_2’’(x)$, which should give the same result as