Re: [NTG-context] italic correction after math

2018-02-14 Thread Hans Hagen
On 2/14/2018 5:30 PM, Alan Braslau wrote: On Wed, 14 Feb 2018 10:12:22 +0100 Ulrike Fischer wrote: ⟂ U+27C2 \perp, for example. This is a "show-stopper" for me. Works ok for me on latex + windows: \documentclass{article} \usepackage{unicode-math} \setmathfont{Cambria

Re: [NTG-context] italic correction after math

2018-02-14 Thread Alan Braslau
On Wed, 14 Feb 2018 10:12:22 +0100 Ulrike Fischer wrote: > > ⟂ U+27C2 \perp, for example. This is a "show-stopper" for me. > > Works ok for me on latex + windows: > > \documentclass{article} > \usepackage{unicode-math} > \setmathfont{Cambria Math} >

Re: [NTG-context] italic correction after math

2018-02-14 Thread Hans Hagen
On 2/14/2018 2:21 PM, Ulrike Fischer wrote: Am Wed, 14 Feb 2018 10:34:49 +0100 schrieb Hans Hagen: Looks good. And for the record: \strut works the other way round and suppress the kern. Yes, because a zwj is a real character and can be used to fool the mechanism A bit to real ;-(. I get a

Re: [NTG-context] italic correction after math

2018-02-14 Thread Ulrike Fischer
Am Wed, 14 Feb 2018 10:34:49 +0100 schrieb Hans Hagen: >> Looks good. And for the record: \strut works the other way round and >> suppress the kern. > > Yes, because a zwj is a real character and can be used to fool the mechanism A bit to real ;-(. I get a sort of sign post (a rule with a x on

Re: [NTG-context] italic correction after math

2018-02-14 Thread Hans Hagen
On 2/14/2018 10:22 AM, Ulrike Fischer wrote: Am Tue, 13 Feb 2018 19:21:21 +0100 schrieb Hans Hagen: But xits is in this case not lying about the italic. The cal-P has a large overhang and one would like to take this somehow into account. well, how should math (or whatever) know what comes

Re: [NTG-context] italic correction after math

2018-02-14 Thread Ulrike Fischer
Am Tue, 13 Feb 2018 19:21:21 +0100 schrieb Hans Hagen: >> But xits is in this case not lying about the italic. The cal-P has a >> large overhang and one would like to take this somehow into account. > > well, how should math (or whatever) know what comes after it ... I wasn't looking for a

Re: [NTG-context] italic correction after math

2018-02-14 Thread Ulrike Fischer
Am Tue, 13 Feb 2018 20:58:52 -0700 schrieb Alan Braslau: >>> Cambria is missing math characters... >> really? which ones (that the others do have .. afaik gyre have some >> less than cambria) > > ⟂ U+27C2 \perp, for example. This is a "show-stopper" for me. Works ok for me on latex + windows:

Re: [NTG-context] italic correction after math

2018-02-13 Thread Alan Braslau
On Wed, 14 Feb 2018 00:13:16 +0100 Hans Hagen wrote: > > Cambria is missing math characters... > really? which ones (that the others do have .. afaik gyre have some > less than cambria) ⟂ U+27C2 \perp, for example. This is a "show-stopper" for me. It does NOT get reported by

Re: [NTG-context] italic correction after math

2018-02-13 Thread Hans Hagen
On 2/13/2018 10:41 PM, Alan Braslau wrote: On Tue, 13 Feb 2018 16:26:10 +0100 Hans Hagen wrote: (so in practice for serious math i only use cambria or lucida) Cambria is missing math characters... really? which ones (that the others do have .. afaik gyre have some less than

Re: [NTG-context] italic correction after math

2018-02-13 Thread Alan Braslau
On Tue, 13 Feb 2018 16:26:10 +0100 Hans Hagen wrote: > (so in practice for serious math i only use cambria or lucida) Cambria is missing math characters... ___ If your question is of interest to

Re: [NTG-context] italic correction after math

2018-02-13 Thread Hans Hagen
On 2/13/2018 6:51 PM, Ulrike Fischer wrote: Am Tue, 13 Feb 2018 16:26:10 +0100 schrieb Hans Hagen: basically it boils down to fonts being bad: traditional tex fonts cheat about the width for italics and have lots or corrections that get always added as a starter and removed in some cases

Re: [NTG-context] italic correction after math

2018-02-13 Thread Ulrike Fischer
Am Tue, 13 Feb 2018 16:26:10 +0100 schrieb Hans Hagen: > basically it boils down to fonts being bad: traditional tex fonts cheat > about the width for italics and have lots or corrections that get always > added as a starter and removed in some cases (heuristics); opentype on > the other hand

Re: [NTG-context] italic correction after math

2018-02-13 Thread Hans Hagen
On 2/13/2018 4:11 PM, Ulrike Fischer wrote: Am Tue, 13 Feb 2018 15:44:20 +0100 schrieb Hans Hagen: hm, seems that i messed up a pointer ... i'll fix it ... Thanks. Will the fix be in the generic font loader or in some context-only files? In the second case, what could be done for latex in

Re: [NTG-context] italic correction after math

2018-02-13 Thread Ulrike Fischer
Am Tue, 13 Feb 2018 15:44:20 +0100 schrieb Hans Hagen: > hm, seems that i messed up a pointer ... i'll fix it ... Thanks. Will the fix be in the generic font loader or in some context-only files? In the second case, what could be done for latex in such cases? > (xetex inserts a kern of 2.45pt

Re: [NTG-context] italic correction after math

2018-02-13 Thread Hans Hagen
On 2/13/2018 12:12 PM, Ulrike Fischer wrote: In the following example the calligraphic P bumps into the following x. After some searching in the archive I found some discussions from 2012 and had the impression that this either shouldn't happen or that the behaviour could at least could be

[NTG-context] italic correction after math

2018-02-13 Thread Ulrike Fischer
In the following example the calligraphic P bumps into the following x. After some searching in the archive I found some discussions from 2012 and had the impression that this either shouldn't happen or that the behaviour could at least could be changed with \setupmathematics[italics=n]. But in