Re: [NTG-context] nomarking function in MKIV

2010-07-02 Thread Thomas A. Schmitz
On Jul 1, 2010, at 8:59 PM, Alan BRASLAU wrote: This is a very good answer. Now, think about robustness. So called sloppy writing can easily happen in a very big project, or more likely by an inexperienced user. ConTeXt is pretty good in handling this, but not perfect. How many times have

Re: [NTG-context] nomarking function in MKIV

2010-07-02 Thread luigi scarso
On Fri, Jul 2, 2010 at 10:18 AM, Thomas A. Schmitz thomas.schm...@uni-bonn.de wrote: So: I find the new \startchapter ... \stopchapter code much superior to the old way of organizing chapters. Well, sometimes I still find sgml documents (cfr. http://surf.sourceforge.net) where old way is

Re: [NTG-context] nomarking function in MKIV

2010-07-02 Thread Alan BRASLAU
On Friday 02 July 2010 10:18:23 Thomas A. Schmitz wrote: It all depends on what you call robustness. I'm a classicist, not a computer scientist or programmer, so I view software only from a user's perspective. But here's what I think about this: a system is robust when it behaves in a

Re: [NTG-context] nomarking function in MKIV

2010-07-01 Thread Alan BRASLAU
On Thursday 01 July 2010 00:35:44 Wolfgang Schuster wrote: Am 30.06.10 10:19, schrieb Alan BRASLAU: Additionally, \chapter [title={First chapter},list={First}] does not work. Logically this should work just as \startchapter. This won't happen So it is not a good idea? Or just

Re: [NTG-context] nomarking function in MKIV

2010-07-01 Thread Wolfgang Schuster
Am 01.07.10 10:16, schrieb Alan BRASLAU: On Thursday 01 July 2010 00:35:44 Wolfgang Schuster wrote: Am 30.06.10 10:19, schrieb Alan BRASLAU: Additionally, \chapter [title={First chapter},list={First}] does not work. Logically this should work just as \startchapter. This

Re: [NTG-context] nomarking function in MKIV

2010-07-01 Thread Peter Münster
On Thu, Jul 01 2010, Alan BRASLAU wrote: Functionality such as the subject of this thread should be available by default, without having to mess with macros. In particular, functionality present in LaTeX for quite some time should be possible within ConTeXt rather easily, the ConTeXt way, of

Re: [NTG-context] nomarking function in MKIV

2010-07-01 Thread Alan BRASLAU
On Thursday 01 July 2010 11:23:01 Peter Münster wrote: On Thu, Jul 01 2010, Alan BRASLAU wrote: Functionality such as the subject of this thread should be available by default, without having to mess with macros. In particular, functionality present in LaTeX for quite some time should be

Re: [NTG-context] nomarking function in MKIV

2010-07-01 Thread luigi scarso
On Thu, Jul 1, 2010 at 11:44 AM, Alan BRASLAU alan.bras...@cea.fr wrote: On Thursday 01 July 2010 11:23:01 Peter Münster wrote: On Thu, Jul 01 2010, Alan BRASLAU wrote: Functionality such as the subject of this thread should be available by default, without having to mess with macros. In

Re: [NTG-context] nomarking function in MKIV

2010-07-01 Thread Thomas A. Schmitz
On Jul 1, 2010, at 11:44 AM, Alan BRASLAU wrote: No one has answered my question about to what belongs any text between a proceding \stopchapter and a following \startchapter, as in \startchapter{title} \stopchapter some text \startchapter{next title} \stopchapter Excuse me, but your

Re: [NTG-context] nomarking function in MKIV

2010-07-01 Thread Henning Hraban Ramm
Am 2010-07-01 um 11:44 schrieb Alan BRASLAU: No one has answered my question about to what belongs any text between a proceding \stopchapter and a following \startchapter, as in \startchapter{title} \stopchapter some text \startchapter{next title} \stopchapter If you write such, you must know

Re: [NTG-context] nomarking function in MKIV

2010-07-01 Thread luigi scarso
On Thu, Jul 1, 2010 at 12:00 PM, Thomas A. Schmitz thomas.schm...@uni-bonn.de wrote: On Jul 1, 2010, at 11:44 AM, Alan BRASLAU wrote: No one has answered my question about to what belongs any text between a proceding \stopchapter and a following \startchapter, as in \startchapter{title}

Re: [NTG-context] nomarking function in MKIV

2010-07-01 Thread Alan BRASLAU
On Thursday 01 July 2010 12:00:45 Thomas A. Schmitz wrote: On Jul 1, 2010, at 11:44 AM, Alan BRASLAU wrote: No one has answered my question about to what belongs any text between a proceding \stopchapter and a following \startchapter, as in \startchapter{title} \stopchapter some text

Re: [NTG-context] nomarking function in MKIV

2010-06-30 Thread Alan BRASLAU
On Tuesday 29 June 2010 19:33:55 Peter Münster wrote: On Tue, Jun 29 2010, John Devereux wrote: so that Short Title Rest Of Title appears as the chapter title, but just Short Title appears in the TOC, PDF bookmarks and footers. \setupinteraction[state=start] \placebookmarks[all]

Re: [NTG-context] nomarking function in MKIV

2010-06-30 Thread Peter Münster
On Wed, Jun 30 2010, Alan BRASLAU wrote: I would then expect to be able to use: \setupchapter [bookmark=list] to select to put the short title (if list={short}) in the bookmarks, unless there be bookmark={shorter}. Good idea, +1 ! Peter -- Contact information: http://pmrb.free.fr/contact/

Re: [NTG-context] nomarking function in MKIV (selector)

2010-06-30 Thread Alan BRASLAU
On nomarking functionality in MKIV: I manage short/long figure captions using a selector: \defineselector [caption] [max=2,n=2] % alternate {short}{long} captions ... \placefigure [here] [fig:reference] {\select{caption}

Re: [NTG-context] nomarking function in MKIV

2010-06-30 Thread Wolfgang Schuster
Am 30.06.10 10:19, schrieb Alan BRASLAU: On Tuesday 29 June 2010 19:33:55 Peter Münster wrote: On Tue, Jun 29 2010, John Devereux wrote: so that Short Title Rest Of Title appears as the chapter title, but just Short Title appears in the TOC, PDF bookmarks and footers.

[NTG-context] nomarking function in MKIV

2010-06-29 Thread John Devereux
Hi, I gather the \nomarking function has been removed from MKIV. All I can find out about this is a note on the Wiki, towards the end of http://wiki.contextgarden.net/MkIV_Differences Unfortunately I don't understand the example given. What I want is to replace things like

Re: [NTG-context] nomarking function in MKIV

2010-06-29 Thread Peter Münster
On Tue, Jun 29 2010, John Devereux wrote: so that Short Title Rest Of Title appears as the chapter title, but just Short Title appears in the TOC, PDF bookmarks and footers. \setupinteraction[state=start] \placebookmarks[all] \setupfootertexts[chapter] \starttext \completecontent

Re: [NTG-context] nomarking function in MKIV

2010-06-29 Thread John Devereux
Peter Münster pmli...@free.fr writes: On Tue, Jun 29 2010, John Devereux wrote: so that Short Title Rest Of Title appears as the chapter title, but just Short Title appears in the TOC, PDF bookmarks and footers. \setupinteraction[state=start] \placebookmarks[all]