Re: [NTG-context] hyphenation of hyphenated words

2012-03-12 Thread S Barmeier
non-standard still breaks as non-stan- dard the stan- protruding from the text-block, whilst the rest of the line is compressed as much as possible... Maybe context thinks, if it breaks at the hyphen you can't tell that there was meant to be a hyphen, so to be clear it uses two...? I can't make

Re: [NTG-context] hyphenation of hyphenated words

2012-03-11 Thread Hans Hagen
On 10-3-2012 21:52, S Barmeier wrote: non-standard breaks as non-stan- dard Is there a way to tell context to break the word at the hyphen that already exists? \hyphenation{bla-bla-bla} Hans -

Re: [NTG-context] hyphenation of hyphenated words

2012-03-10 Thread Marco Pessotto
S Barmeier severinbarme...@googlemail.com writes: non-standard breaks as non-stan- dard Is there a way to tell context to break the word at the hyphen that already exists? \setbreakpoints[compound] should do the trick. Cheers -- Marco

Re: [NTG-context] Hyphenation in Natural Table

2011-12-28 Thread Andreas Harder
Hi, try it with: \starttext \bTABLE[align=normal] \bTR \bTD Topic\eTD \bTD Text\eTD \eTR \bTR \bTD Foo\crlf Bar\eTD \bTD \input tufte \eTD \eTR \bTR \bTD BAR \crlf FOO\eTD \bTD \startitemize \item \input tufte \item \input tufte \stopitemize \eTD \eTR \eTABLE

Re: [NTG-context] Hyphenation in Natural Table

2011-12-28 Thread Vladimir Lomov
Hello, ** Andreas Harder [2011-12-29 02:29:26 +0100]: Hi, try it with: \starttext \bTABLE[align=normal] \bTR \bTD Topic\eTD \bTD Text\eTD \eTR \bTR \bTD Foo\crlf Bar\eTD \bTD \input tufte \eTD \eTR \bTR \bTD BAR \crlf FOO\eTD \bTD \startitemize \item \input tufte \item

Re: [NTG-context] Hyphenation patterns and adjusted kerning: ConTeXt vs. LuaTeX

2011-02-25 Thread Hans Hagen
On 25-2-2011 1:18, Heilmann, Till A. wrote: Maybe the ConTeXt community can be of assistance to the LuaTeX bunch ... As a new LuaTeX user, I came across the following problem: Using Lua(La)TeX, customized kerning of letter pairs (via the FeatureFile capability of fontspec) is ignored when it

Re: [NTG-context] Hyphenation patterns and adjusted kerning: ConTeXt vs. LuaTeX

2011-02-25 Thread Ulrike Fischer
Am Fri, 25 Feb 2011 14:35:10 +0100 schrieb Hans Hagen: As a new LuaTeX user, I came across the following problem: Using Lua(La)TeX, customized kerning of letter pairs (via the FeatureFile capability of fontspec) is ignored when it coincides with a possible hyphenation of a word (e.g. between

Re: [NTG-context] Hyphenation patterns and adjusted kerning: ConTeXt vs. LuaTeX

2011-02-25 Thread Ulrike Fischer
Am Fri, 25 Feb 2011 16:37:26 +0100 schrieb Heilmann, Till A.: Am Fri, 25 Feb 2011 14:41:10 +0100 schrieb Ulrike Fischer: In base mode kerning and and hyphenation happen in the traditional tex way, so there is not much extra trickery taking place. Well, as you mention base mode: This

Re: [NTG-context] Hyphenation patterns and adjusted kerning: ConTeXt vs. LuaTeX

2011-02-25 Thread Ulrike Fischer
Am Fri, 25 Feb 2011 16:45:31 +0100 schrieb Ulrike Fischer: Ah, yes, the transcript of my first example clearly shows fontspec operating in node mode. Yes, but I could also reproduce the problem without fontspec (only with luaotfload). Please excuse my naive asking: Is there any way to

Re: [NTG-context] Hyphenation patterns and adjusted kerning: ConTeXt vs. LuaTeX

2011-02-25 Thread Khaled Hosny
On Fri, Feb 25, 2011 at 03:41:10PM +0100, Ulrike Fischer wrote: So I think it isn't true that the manual of luaotfload claims By default mode=base is used. It used to be like that but we changed it a while ago, looks like I didn't update the manual. Regards, Khaled -- Khaled Hosny

Re: [NTG-context] Hyphenation patterns and adjusted kerning:?ConTeXt vs. LuaTeX

2011-02-25 Thread Khaled Hosny
On Fri, Feb 25, 2011 at 04:45:31PM +0100, Ulrike Fischer wrote: Ah, yes, the transcript of my first example clearly shows fontspec operating in node mode. Please excuse my naive asking: Is there any way to continue using fontspec's setmainfont command (it is convenient for someone

Re: [NTG-context] hyphenation patterns

2010-05-24 Thread Hans Hagen
On 24-5-2010 2:16, Mojca Miklavec wrote: There's no need to apologize. First, there's an infinite number of foreign names, so that one simply cannot get all of them right. I guess that Lju-bl-ja-na is not properly hyphenated either (Lu-bia-na why not just use hyphenmin values of 3 to prevent

Re: [NTG-context] hyphenation patterns

2010-05-24 Thread luigi scarso
On Sun, May 23, 2010 at 11:38 PM, Mojca Miklavec mojca.miklavec.li...@gmail.com wrote: hyphenate properly in Italian. Italian is a what-you-see-is-what-you-pronounce language (in contrast to English) Apart some traps like glicine vs tagliare where syllable 'gli' is spelled in completely

Re: [NTG-context] hyphenation patterns

2010-05-24 Thread rogutes
Mojca Miklavec (2010-05-24 02:16): Dear Claudio, Thanks a lot for your prompt reply. On Mon, May 24, 2010 at 00:39, Claudio Beccari wrote: Dear Mojca, no proper Italian word ends in ch (this digraph in normal Italian words is pronunced as k, not as č or ć). Nevertheless there are a

Re: [NTG-context] hyphenation patterns

2010-05-23 Thread Mojca Miklavec
On Mon, May 24, 2010 at 01:22, Rogutės Sparnuotos wrote: \setuplayout[textwidth=0.2cm] \starttext \language[la] Manovich. \stoptext hyphenates 'Manovich' into Ma-no-vi-ch, while it should be Ma-no-vich. The same applies for Italian and Lithuanian languages (in LaTeX as well). Could there

Re: [NTG-context] hyphenation patterns

2010-05-23 Thread Mojca Miklavec
Dear Claudio, Thanks a lot for your prompt reply. On Mon, May 24, 2010 at 00:39, Claudio Beccari wrote: Dear Mojca, no proper Italian word ends in ch (this digraph in normal Italian words is pronunced as k, not as č or ć). Nevertheless there are a number of surnames dating back to the old

Re: [NTG-context] Hyphenation of composed words

2010-05-10 Thread Hans Hagen
On 10-5-2010 7:27, Marco wrote: 1. || does *not* produce a en-dash but to kerned hyphens You're right, I looked it up in the sources. It just looked like an en-dash for me. But this is wrong. For hyphenation a hyphen is used. The font designer has created a dedicated glyph for this purpose. And

Re: [NTG-context] Hyphenation of composed words

2010-05-10 Thread Thomas Floeren
Marco wrote on Monday, May 10, 2010 7:27 AM: 1. || does *not* produce a en-dash but to kerned hyphens You're right, I looked it up in the sources. It just looked like an en-dash for me. But this is wrong. For hyphenation a hyphen is used. The font designer has created a dedicated glyph for

Re: [NTG-context] Hyphenation of composed words

2010-05-10 Thread Marco
You're right, I looked it up in the sources. It just looked like an en-dash for me. But this is wrong. For hyphenation a hyphen is used. The font designer has created a dedicated glyph for this purpose. And two hyphens (or an en-dash) is too large. I've never seen the advice in a

Re: [NTG-context] Hyphenation of composed words

2010-05-10 Thread Marco
It seems that the en-dash *can* be used in English in some cases: 'high-priority--high-pressure tasks' from http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hyphen I see. But this is a --more or less-- contructed case where using an en-dash instead of a hyphen makes sense. I agree with this example, the en-dash

Re: [NTG-context] Hyphenation of composed words

2010-05-09 Thread Marco
On 16-4-2010 4:46, Marco wrote: Hi, I've yet another hyphenation problem. I cannot get proper hyphenation in composed words. Take this MWE: a mix up of settings .. fized in next beta Hi Hans, the following code still produces an en dash instead of a hyphen. \setuplayout [width=1.5cm]

Re: [NTG-context] Hyphenation of composed words

2010-05-09 Thread Wolfgang Schuster
Am 09.05.10 21:34, schrieb Marco: On 16-4-2010 4:46, Marco wrote: Hi, I've yet another hyphenation problem. I cannot get proper hyphenation in composed words. Take this MWE: a mix up of settings .. fized in next beta Hi Hans, the following code still produces an en dash

Re: [NTG-context] Hyphenation of composed words

2010-05-09 Thread Marco
1. || does *not* produce a en-dash but to kerned hyphens You're right, I looked it up in the sources. It just looked like an en-dash for me. But this is wrong. For hyphenation a hyphen is used. The font designer has created a dedicated glyph for this purpose. And two hyphens (or an en-dash) is

Re: [NTG-context] Hyphenation of composed words

2010-04-19 Thread Marco
I hope with the comments the problem is clear. At first the default value for »sign« is wrong. It has to be »normal«. But with »normal« I cannot get the hyphen at the end of the line, instead it always appeares at the beginning of the next line. At the moment I use

Re: [NTG-context] Hyphenation of composed words

2010-04-18 Thread Thomas Floeren
Marco wrote on Friday, April 16, 2010 4:46 PM: Hi, I've yet another hyphenation problem. I cannot get proper hyphenation in composed words. Take this MWE: \setuplayout [width=1.5cm] \starttext composed-word\par % not hyphenated, as expected composed||word\par% wrong:

Re: [NTG-context] Hyphenation of composed words

2010-04-16 Thread Hans Hagen
On 16-4-2010 4:46, Marco wrote: Hi, I've yet another hyphenation problem. I cannot get proper hyphenation in composed words. Take this MWE: a mix up of settings .. fized in next beta -

Re: [NTG-context] Hyphenation of composed words

2010-04-16 Thread Marco
I've yet another hyphenation problem. I cannot get proper hyphenation in composed words. Take this MWE: a mix up of settings .. fized in next beta Thank you. ___ If your question is of interest to others as

Re: [NTG-context] \hyphenation problems

2010-03-22 Thread Tom
Message- From: ntg-context-boun...@ntg.nl [mailto:ntg-context-boun...@ntg.nl] On Behalf Of Wolfgang Schuster Sent: Monday, March 22, 2010 1:21 AM To: mailing list for ConTeXt users Subject: Re: [NTG-context] \hyphenation problems Am 22.03.10 02:48, schrieb Tom: When I wrap text around

Re: [NTG-context] \hyphenation problems

2010-03-22 Thread Thomas A. Schmitz
On Mar 22, 2010, at 2:01 PM, Tom wrote: I am very confused. Inserting {\definedfont[Serif sa 8]^^45^^78^^61^^6d^^70^^6c^^65^^21} results in Example in very large type being placed in my output and seems not to affect the hyphenation or justification. I think Wolfgang was trying to steer

Re: [NTG-context] \hyphenation problems

2010-03-22 Thread Tom
users Subject: Re: [NTG-context] \hyphenation problems On Mar 22, 2010, at 2:01 PM, Tom wrote: I am very confused. Inserting {\definedfont[Serif sa 8]^^45^^78^^61^^6d^^70^^6c^^65^^21} results in Example in very large type being placed in my output and seems not to affect the hyphenation

Re: [NTG-context] \hyphenation problems

2010-03-22 Thread Thomas A. Schmitz
On Mar 22, 2010, at 3:16 PM, Tom wrote: Boy, am I thick. Here is an example that demonstrates the problem. You should be able to see that cfbdatawarehouse.com did not hyphenate. To get the malhyphenation error, it is necessary to uncomment the \hyphenation command. Changing the width of the

Re: [NTG-context] \hyphenation problems

2010-03-22 Thread Wolfgang Schuster
Am 22.03.10 16:03, schrieb Thomas A. Schmitz: 4. As for words sticking out in the margin: TeX does its best, but sometimes, no good line breaks can be found. A certain word processor will then go on and stretch your interword space and even interletter space within words. TeX doesn't do that

Re: [NTG-context] \hyphenation problems

2010-03-22 Thread Wolfgang Schuster
Am 22.03.10 16:03, schrieb Thomas A. Schmitz: 3. Your caption: well, since you do not apply the bodyfontswitch to all of the lines, but to each line individually, you never give ConTeXt a chance to calculate the interlinespace. You shouldn't format individual lines, but use something like

Re: [NTG-context] \hyphenation problems

2010-03-22 Thread Peter Rolf
[mailto:ntg-context-boun...@ntg.nl] On Behalf Of Thomas A. Schmitz Sent: Monday, March 22, 2010 9:14 AM To: mailing list for ConTeXt users Subject: Re: [NTG-context] \hyphenation problems On Mar 22, 2010, at 2:01 PM, Tom wrote: I am very confused. Inserting {\definedfont[Serif sa 8]^^45

Re: [NTG-context] \hyphenation problems

2010-03-22 Thread Tom
: @TomBenjey -Original Message- From: ntg-context-boun...@ntg.nl [mailto:ntg-context-boun...@ntg.nl] On Behalf Of Thomas A. Schmitz Sent: Monday, March 22, 2010 11:03 AM To: mailing list for ConTeXt users Subject: Re: [NTG-context] \hyphenation problems On Mar 22, 2010, at 3:16 PM, Tom wrote

Re: [NTG-context] \hyphenation problems

2010-03-21 Thread Wolfgang Schuster
Am 22.03.10 02:48, schrieb Tom: When I wrap text around the right side of a figure, the justification along the right margin is a bit ragged in a couple of places. One problem is that it can't hyphenate cfbdatawarehouse.com, even when I provide the hyphenation via a \hyphenation command. The

Re: [NTG-context] hyphenation problem using |-| in composed words -- bug?

2009-11-25 Thread Oliver Heins
To comment on myself: Oliver Heins o...@sopos.org writes: Hi, when using |-| in a word as a non exclusive dash, this produces wrong hyphenation. [...] longer -word -to -be -hy- phen- ated This is a workaround: \definetextmodediscretionary {-}

Re: [NTG-context] hyphenation problem using |-| in composed words -- bug?

2009-11-25 Thread Taco Hoekwater
Hi olli, Oliver Heins wrote: To comment on myself: Oliver Heins o...@sopos.org writes: Hi, when using |-| in a word as a non exclusive dash, this produces wrong hyphenation. Verified. Same problems here, in both mkii and mkiv. Best wishes, Taco

Re: [NTG-context] Hyphenation pattern exceptions (was: I can't change ...)

2009-07-24 Thread Xan
En/na Javier Bezos ha escrit: Mojca Miklavec escribió: So - Javier, I'm sorry, you should ignore my email. Don't worry :-). Anyway, if I can help, just let me know. Spanish is a lot more regular than, say, English, and therefore exceptions (which are more or less systematic) are handled with

Re: [NTG-context] Hyphenation pattern exceptions (was: I can't change ...)

2009-07-23 Thread Hans Hagen
Mojca Miklavec wrote: We could start collecting exceptions, but I have no idea where/how to do that systematically. just on a garden wiki page and then once per year a submission to pattern writers -

Re: [NTG-context] Hyphenation pattern exceptions (was: I can't change ...)

2009-07-23 Thread Xan
En/na Mojca Miklavec ha escrit: On Thu, Jul 23, 2009 at 17:42, Xan wrote: En/na Hans Hagen ha escrit: % hyphenating \hyphenation{do-cu-ment} \hyphenation{pro-ble-ma} \hyphenation{es-crip-tu-ra} \hyphenation{ge-ne-ra-lit-za-ció} \hyphenation{cor-res-po-nents} \hyphenation{pa-rells}

Re: [NTG-context] Hyphenation pattern exceptions (was: I can't change ...)

2009-07-23 Thread Mojca Miklavec
On Thu, Jul 23, 2009 at 20:18, Xan wrote: My hyphens are for Catalan language (ca). It's not spanish language. So I think it's not apply. Or yes? I'm sorry, sorry, sorry ... I only remembered you were from Spain and forgot to think about the fact that not only Spanish is being spoken there,

Re: [NTG-context] Hyphenation pattern exceptions (was: I can't change ...)

2009-07-23 Thread Xan
En/na Mojca Miklavec ha escrit: On Thu, Jul 23, 2009 at 20:18, Xan wrote: My hyphens are for Catalan language (ca). It's not spanish language. So I think it's not apply. Or yes? I'm sorry, sorry, sorry ... I only remembered you were from Spain and forgot to think about the fact that

Re: [NTG-context] Hyphenation list and umlauts

2009-07-16 Thread Thomas Floeren
Mojca Miklavec mailto:mojca.miklavec.li...@gmail.com scribbled on Friday, July 10, 2009 11:21 AM: On Fri, Jul 10, 2009 at 07:32, Thomas Floeren wrote: Taco Hoekwater mailto:t...@elvenkind.com scribbled on Thursday, July 09, 2009 8:40 AM: Lutz Haseloff wrote: Hi Thomas, You are right,

Re: [NTG-context] Hyphenation list and umlauts

2009-07-10 Thread Taco Hoekwater
Thomas Floeren wrote: Hi, Unfortunately I can not make work the luatetex.exe from your link. luatools --generate seems to work fine, but luatools --selfupdate gives LuaTools | fileio: unable to locate new script, same for mtxrun --selfupdate. context --make cont-en then gives MTXrun | unknown

Re: [NTG-context] Hyphenation list and umlauts

2009-07-10 Thread Mojca Miklavec
On Fri, Jul 10, 2009 at 07:32, Thomas Floeren wrote: Taco Hoekwater mailto:t...@elvenkind.com scribbled on Thursday, July 09, 2009 8:40 AM: Lutz Haseloff wrote: Hi Thomas, You are right, stand-salarm is definitely wrong. I think too, that LuaTex should hyphenate the word like given in

Re: [NTG-context] Hyphenation list and umlauts

2009-07-10 Thread tomfloeren
On Jul 10, 2009, at 11:21 AM, Mojca Miklavec wrote: On Fri, Jul 10, 2009 at 07:32, Thomas Floeren wrote: Taco Hoekwater mailto:t...@elvenkind.com scribbled on Thursday, July 09, 2009 8:40 AM: Lutz Haseloff wrote: Hi Thomas, You are right, stand-salarm is definitely wrong. I think too,

Re: [NTG-context] Hyphenation list and umlauts

2009-07-09 Thread Thomas Floeren
-context-boun...@ntg.nl] On Behalf Of Lutz Haseloff Sent: Thursday, July 09, 2009 6:55 AM To: mailing list for ConTeXt users Subject: Re: [NTG-context] Hyphenation list and umlauts Hi Thomas, after changing lefthyphenmin for de in lang-ger.tex to 2 I was able to hyphenate your word after the Duden

Re: [NTG-context] Hyphenation list and umlauts

2009-07-09 Thread Lutz Haseloff
Of Lutz Haseloff Sent: Thursday, July 09, 2009 6:55 AM To: mailing list for ConTeXt users Subject: Re: [NTG-context] Hyphenation list and umlauts Hi Thomas, after changing lefthyphenmin for de in lang-ger.tex to 2 I was able to hyphenate your word after the Duden rules ma-nö-vrie-ren. I think

Re: [NTG-context] Hyphenation list and umlauts

2009-07-09 Thread Taco Hoekwater
Lutz Haseloff wrote: Hi Thomas, You are right, stand-salarm is definitely wrong. I think too, that LuaTex should hyphenate the word like given in \hyphenation{}. It seems that \hyphenation{} is ignored. Hi guys, Are you using the binary from minimals, or the binary from the supelec.fr

Re: [NTG-context] Hyphenation list and umlauts

2009-07-09 Thread tomfloeren
On Jul 8, 2009, at 1:06 PM, Peter Rolf wrote: Thomas Floeren schrieb: Taco Hoekwater mailto:t...@elvenkind.com scribbled on Wednesday, June 24, 2009 3:34 PM: Thomas Floeren wrote: Hi, I stumbled upon a problem with my hyphenation list: In MKIV, all the words in the list that

Re: [NTG-context] Hyphenation list and umlauts

2009-07-09 Thread Thomas Floeren
Taco Hoekwater mailto:t...@elvenkind.com scribbled on Thursday, July 09, 2009 8:40 AM: Lutz Haseloff wrote: Hi Thomas, You are right, stand-salarm is definitely wrong. I think too, that LuaTex should hyphenate the word like given in \hyphenation{}. It seems that \hyphenation{} is ignored.

Re: [NTG-context] Hyphenation list and umlauts

2009-07-09 Thread Lutz Haseloff
I use the binaries from http://www.fsci.fuk.kindai.ac.jp/kakuto/win32-ptex/web2c75-e.html. (This is LuaTeX, Version beta-0.41.0-2009070721 (Web2C 2009)) 2009/7/9 Taco Hoekwater t...@elvenkind.com Lutz Haseloff wrote: Hi Thomas, You are right, stand-salarm is definitely wrong. I think too,

Re: [NTG-context] Hyphenation list and umlauts

2009-07-09 Thread Peter Rolf
Lutz Haseloff schrieb: I use the binaries from http://www.fsci.fuk.kindai.ac.jp/kakuto/win32-ptex/web2c75-e.html. same here (size matters) :) (This is LuaTeX, Version beta-0.41.0-2009070721 (Web2C 2009)) 2009/7/9 Taco Hoekwater t...@elvenkind.com mailto:t...@elvenkind.com Lutz Haseloff

Re: [NTG-context] Hyphenation list and umlauts

2009-07-09 Thread Thomas Floeren
Taco Hoekwater mailto:t...@elvenkind.com scribbled on Thursday, July 09, 2009 8:40 AM: Lutz Haseloff wrote: Hi Thomas, You are right, stand-salarm is definitely wrong. I think too, that LuaTex should hyphenate the word like given in \hyphenation{}. It seems that \hyphenation{} is ignored.

Re: [NTG-context] Hyphenation list and umlauts

2009-07-08 Thread Thomas Floeren
Taco Hoekwater mailto:t...@elvenkind.com scribbled on Wednesday, June 24, 2009 3:34 PM: Thomas Floeren wrote: Hi, I stumbled upon a problem with my hyphenation list: In MKIV, all the words in the list that contain umlauts are completely ignored. MKII is fine. Luatex 0.40.5 is broken

Re: [NTG-context] Hyphenation list and umlauts

2009-07-08 Thread Taco Hoekwater
Thomas Floeren wrote: Well, in my other mail I said that it worked perfectly now with 0.40.6, but this isn’t entirely true: It works perfectly on Mac, Linux and Win Vista. But for any obscure reason I can not get it to work on Win XP (to which I’m bound at work, unfortunately).

Re: [NTG-context] Hyphenation list and umlauts

2009-07-08 Thread Peter Rolf
Thomas Floeren schrieb: Taco Hoekwater mailto:t...@elvenkind.com scribbled on Wednesday, June 24, 2009 3:34 PM: Thomas Floeren wrote: Hi, I stumbled upon a problem with my hyphenation list: In MKIV, all the words in the list that contain umlauts are completely ignored. MKII is

Re: [NTG-context] Hyphenation list and umlauts

2009-07-08 Thread thomas . floeren
On Jul 8, 2009, at 1:06 PM, Peter Rolf wrote: Thomas Floeren schrieb: Taco Hoekwater mailto:t...@elvenkind.com scribbled on Wednesday, June 24, 2009 3:34 PM: Thomas Floeren wrote: Hi, I stumbled upon a problem with my hyphenation list: In MKIV, all the words in the list that

Re: [NTG-context] Hyphenation list and umlauts

2009-06-27 Thread Thomas Floeren
On Jun 24, 2009, at 3:33 PM, Taco Hoekwater wrote: Thomas Floeren wrote: Hi, I stumbled upon a problem with my hyphenation list: In MKIV, all the words in the list that contain umlauts are completely ignored. MKII is fine. Luatex 0.40.5 is broken in this regard, sorry. (The problem

Re: [NTG-context] Hyphenation list and umlauts

2009-06-24 Thread Taco Hoekwater
Thomas Floeren wrote: Hi, I stumbled upon a problem with my hyphenation list: In MKIV, all the words in the list that contain umlauts are completely ignored. MKII is fine. Luatex 0.40.5 is broken in this regard, sorry. (The problem is that the exception handling uses \lccodes for

Re: [NTG-context] hyphenation

2009-05-25 Thread Taco Hoekwater
Hi Hraban, Your questions are more about luatex than about context, I think (you _are_ talking about mkiv, yes?) Henning Hraban Ramm wrote: Ahoi, (1) there's an ongoing thread on the German mailing list (TeX-D-L), if it would be possible to implement weighted(?) hyphenation, i.e. that some

Re: [NTG-context] hyphenation in latest

2009-04-13 Thread Thomas A. Schmitz
On Apr 9, 2009, at 3:46 PM, Hans Hagen wrote: in lang-grk ... \installlanguage [\s!agr] [\s!default=\s!gr, \s!patterns=\s!agr, \s!mapping=\s!agr, \s!encoding=\s!agr] there are no gr patterns so you need to specify another set Thanks Hans, it works again in the latest beta! All

Re: [NTG-context] hyphenation in latest

2009-04-09 Thread Thomas A. Schmitz
On Apr 9, 2009, at 12:00 AM, Hans Hagen wrote: maybe somethign with the greek patterns then? \starttext \definedfont[cambria] \language[agr] % try different ones \the\normallanguage \input tufte \stoptext I have looked at the Greek patterns, and there's nothing wrong with them; I also

Re: [NTG-context] hyphenation in latest

2009-04-09 Thread Vyatcheslav Yatskovsky
I can. Please, explain what have to be tested in Russian and Ukrainian, and what result are expected? Vyatcheslav maybe somethign with the greek patterns then? \starttext \definedfont[cambria] \language[agr] % try different ones \the\normallanguage \input tufte \stoptext

Re: [NTG-context] hyphenation in latest

2009-04-09 Thread Thomas A. Schmitz
On Apr 9, 2009, at 8:35 AM, Vyatcheslav Yatskovsky wrote: I can. Please, explain what have to be tested in Russian and Ukrainian, and what result are expected? Vyatcheslav Great. Just run a simple test file like this \usetypescriptfile[type-gentium] % or any other typescript that has

Re: [NTG-context] hyphenation in latest

2009-04-09 Thread Hans Hagen
Thomas A. Schmitz wrote: On Apr 9, 2009, at 12:00 AM, Hans Hagen wrote: maybe somethign with the greek patterns then? \starttext \definedfont[cambria] \language[agr] % try different ones \the\normallanguage \input tufte \stoptext I have looked at the Greek patterns, and there's nothing

Re: [NTG-context] hyphenation in latest

2009-04-09 Thread Thomas A. Schmitz
On Apr 9, 2009, at 12:18 PM, Thomas A. Schmitz wrote: On Apr 9, 2009, at 12:11 PM, Hans Hagen wrote: weird, as the catcodes look ok Hmm, I'll do some more tests later; I'll be offline until Sunday night. But it doesn't work in mkii either, so the bug probably is with the pattern

Re: [NTG-context] hyphenation in latest

2009-04-09 Thread Thomas A. Schmitz
On Apr 9, 2009, at 12:11 PM, Hans Hagen wrote: weird, as the catcodes look ok Hmm, I'll do some more tests later; I'll be offline until Sunday night. But it doesn't work in mkii either, so the bug probably is with the pattern file. Thomas

Re: [NTG-context] hyphenation in latest

2009-04-09 Thread Hans Hagen
Thomas A. Schmitz wrote: On Apr 9, 2009, at 12:18 PM, Thomas A. Schmitz wrote: On Apr 9, 2009, at 12:11 PM, Hans Hagen wrote: weird, as the catcodes look ok Hmm, I'll do some more tests later; I'll be offline until Sunday night. But it doesn't work in mkii either, so the bug probably

Re: [NTG-context] hyphenation

2009-04-09 Thread Vyatcheslav Yatskovsky
Hello Thomas and everybody, I've checked hyph patterns for Russian and languages provided by you. I discovered that nothing has changed for last month -- the result is exactly the same for luatex 0.35 and 0.37, as well as respective ConTeXt builds. Two demo images are attached. Vyatcheslav

Re: [NTG-context] hyphenation in latest

2009-04-08 Thread Hans Hagen
Thomas A. Schmitz wrote: Hi all, Hans, I get no hyphenation for ancient Greek with the latest beta (and, as I have seen, a couple of betas before that). Test file (I hope this doesn't get butchered in the mail): \usetypescriptfile[type-gentium] \usetypescript[gentium]

Re: [NTG-context] hyphenation patters for Ukrainian

2009-03-10 Thread Mojca Miklavec
On Tue, Mar 10, 2009 at 00:06, Vyatcheslav Yatskovsky wrote: Hello, What bout hyphenation patters for Ukrainian? \language[ru] seems to work, but \language[ua] does not. There is one issue that needs to be fixed first - the ??? needs to be replaced with proper language code:

Re: [NTG-context] hyphenation blues

2008-09-24 Thread Steffen Wolfrum
Am 24.09.2008 um 10:39 schrieb Taco Hoekwater: Steffen Wolfrum wrote: \def\Textit% {\groupedcommand\em\/} Try this: \define\Colorit% {\groupedcommand{\color[blue]\em}\/} tried it ... but still no hyphenation! Steffen

Re: [NTG-context] hyphenation blues

2008-09-24 Thread Taco Hoekwater
Steffen Wolfrum wrote: \def\Textit% {\groupedcommand\em\/} Try this: \define\Colorit% {\groupedcommand{\color[blue]\em}\/} Best wishes, Taco ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please

Re: [NTG-context] hyphenation blues

2008-09-24 Thread Taco Hoekwater
Steffen Wolfrum wrote: Am 24.09.2008 um 10:39 schrieb Taco Hoekwater: Steffen Wolfrum wrote: \def\Textit% {\groupedcommand\em\/} Try this: \define\Colorit% {\groupedcommand{\color[blue]\em}\/} tried it ... but still no hyphenation! You are running pdftex, 'cause it worked fine in

Re: [NTG-context] hyphenation blues

2008-09-24 Thread Steffen Wolfrum
Am 24.09.2008 um 12:57 schrieb Taco Hoekwater: Steffen Wolfrum wrote: Am 24.09.2008 um 10:39 schrieb Taco Hoekwater: Steffen Wolfrum wrote: \def\Textit% {\groupedcommand\em\/} Try this: \define\Colorit% {\groupedcommand{\color[blue]\em}\/} tried it ... but still no hyphenation!

Re: [NTG-context] hyphenation blues

2008-09-24 Thread Taco Hoekwater
Steffen Wolfrum wrote: ! You can't use `\end' in internal vertical mode. recently read \normalend Jikes. Looks like that is because \color is a \groupedcommand itself. This works for this test file (and hopefully for everything else): \def\Colorit% {\groupedcommand

Re: [NTG-context] hyphenation blues

2008-09-24 Thread Hans Hagen
Steffen Wolfrum wrote: Am 24.09.2008 um 12:57 schrieb Taco Hoekwater: Steffen Wolfrum wrote: Am 24.09.2008 um 10:39 schrieb Taco Hoekwater: Steffen Wolfrum wrote: \def\Textit% {\groupedcommand\em\/} Try this: \define\Colorit% {\groupedcommand{\color[blue]\em}\/} tried it ... but

Re: [NTG-context] hyphenation blues

2008-09-24 Thread Steffen Wolfrum
Am 24.09.2008 um 17:28 schrieb Taco Hoekwater: Steffen Wolfrum wrote: ! You can't use `\end' in internal vertical mode. recently read \normalend Jikes. Looks like that is because \color is a \groupedcommand itself. This works for this test file (and hopefully for everything else):

Re: [NTG-context] hyphenation blues

2008-09-24 Thread Hans Hagen
Steffen Wolfrum wrote: Am 24.09.2008 um 17:28 schrieb Taco Hoekwater: Steffen Wolfrum wrote: ! You can't use `\end' in internal vertical mode. recently read \normalend Jikes. Looks like that is because \color is a \groupedcommand itself. This works for this test file (and hopefully

Re: [NTG-context] hyphenation question

2008-06-26 Thread Alan Stone
For your information... http://www.talo.nl/talo/download/documents/Language_Book.pdf There's a whole chapter on hyphenation rules for the European languages. Best, Alan On Wed, Jun 25, 2008 at 2:55 PM, Olivier Guéry [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I remember reading that in correct french typo we

Re: [NTG-context] hyphenation question

2008-06-26 Thread Mojca Miklavec
On Thu, Jun 26, 2008 at 12:29 PM, Alan Stone wrote: For your information... http://www.talo.nl/talo/download/documents/Language_Book.pdf There's a whole chapter on hyphenation rules for the European languages. A magnificent reference! At least for Slovenian it's using the deprecated

Re: [NTG-context] hyphenation question

2008-06-26 Thread Alan Stone
Oh well, publishing is one of the ways some people like to brag about the labels they stick to their name: http://www.talo.nl/talo/contact/index.html For their information then, email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ? ;O) Alan On Thu, Jun 26, 2008 at 2:20 PM, Mojca Miklavec [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On

Re: [NTG-context] hyphenation question

2008-06-26 Thread Charles P. Schaum
Unfortunately, these chaps haven't read their Duden Band 1, Die Deutsche Rechtschreibung. I checked their examples against it and they are quite in error at times. That makes it notoriously difficult to figure out the proper from the improper. So they theoretically could have a good product and

Re: [NTG-context] hyphenation question

2008-06-25 Thread Olivier Guéry
On Wed, Jun 25, 2008 at 12:18 PM, Alan Stone [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a document where \mainlanguage[fr] some words weren't hyphenated correctly so I've put them in a hyphenation pattern \hyphenation{ ap-pa-ren-ce at-ten-dai-ent com-men-cent d'am-bi-tion

Re: [NTG-context] hyphenation question

2008-06-25 Thread Alan Stone
Will comply. Thanks Olivier On Wed, Jun 25, 2008 at 2:55 PM, Olivier Guéry [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, Jun 25, 2008 at 12:18 PM, Alan Stone [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a document where \mainlanguage[fr] some words weren't hyphenated correctly so I've put them in a hyphenation

Re: [NTG-context] hyphenation question

2008-06-25 Thread Alan Stone
Hmmm... that means there are a * lot * more words to add to the hyphenation pattern declaration. How do you instruct (Con)TeX(t) to not hypenate before the last « syllable » ? Alan On Wed, Jun 25, 2008 at 3:02 PM, Alan Stone [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Will comply. Thanks Olivier On Wed, Jun

Re: [NTG-context] hyphenation question

2008-06-25 Thread Olivier Guéry
We realy need to work on a wiki page with all these french rules. Once created I could ask some real typographist to help us (I hop they do help us…). Having the Artur's Rules for spacing would be a good start point. Olivier. On Wed, Jun 25, 2008 at 3:14 PM, Alan Stone [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Re: [NTG-context] hyphenation question

2008-06-25 Thread Taco Hoekwater
Alan Stone wrote: In a document where \mainlanguage[fr] some words weren't hyphenated correctly so I've put them in a hyphenation pattern \hyphenation{ ap-pa-ren-ce at-ten-dai-ent com-men-cent d'am-bi-tion d'in-flu-en-ce l'ap-pa-ren-ce } The only

Re: [NTG-context] hyphenation problem

2008-05-12 Thread Hans Hagen
Hans van der Meer wrote: In dutch hyphenated accented characters loose there accent when hyphenated: oö becomes o-o instead of o-ö. But the latter happens when I process the code below. It happens both in mkii and mkiv. The number of a's must be chosen so as to generate hyphenation

Re: [NTG-context] hyphenation problem

2008-05-12 Thread Taco Hoekwater
Hans van der Meer wrote: In dutch hyphenated accented characters loose there accent when hyphenated: oö becomes o-o instead of o-ö. But the latter happens when I process the code below. It happens both in mkii and mkiv. The number of a's must be chosen so as to generate hyphenation

Re: [NTG-context] hyphenation problem

2008-05-12 Thread Hans van der Meer
On 12 mei 2008, at 13:01, Taco Hoekwater wrote: Hans van der Meer wrote: In dutch hyphenated accented characters loose there accent when hyphenated: oö becomes o-o instead of o-ö. But the latter happens when I process the code below. It happens both in mkii and mkiv. The number of a's

Re: [NTG-context] hyphenation problem

2008-05-12 Thread Taco Hoekwater
Hans van der Meer wrote: In my recollection this worked like a charm in the LaTeX-Babel package! Well, \usemodule[babel] has never worked either ;-) Anyway, I just realised after posting my message that the input could be made to work by making ö active and having it execute a macro like

Re: [NTG-context] hyphenation problem

2008-05-12 Thread Hans van der Meer
On 12 mei 2008, at 12:50, Hans Hagen wrote: Hans van der Meer wrote: In dutch hyphenated accented characters loose there accent when hyphenated: oö becomes o-o instead of o-ö. But the latter happens when I process the code below. It happens both in mkii and mkiv. The number of a's

Re: [NTG-context] hyphenation problem

2008-05-12 Thread Hans Hagen
Hans van der Meer wrote: On 12 mei 2008, at 12:50, Hans Hagen wrote: Hans van der Meer wrote: In dutch hyphenated accented characters loose there accent when hyphenated: oö becomes o-o instead of o-ö. But the latter happens when I process the code below. It happens both in mkii and mkiv.

Re: [NTG-context] Hyphenation with apostrophes

2007-12-18 Thread Taco Hoekwater
Peter Münster wrote: On Mon, Dec 17, 2007 at 11:09:44AM +0100, Taco Hoekwater wrote: At the tex level you need either \lccode`\'=`\' or make the ' an active character running a macro that is a bit like ||, e.g. this: \catcode`\'=\active \unexpanded\def'{\string'\prewordbreak}

Re: [NTG-context] hyphenation again (mkii)

2007-12-18 Thread Steffen Wolfrum
Am 17.12.2007 um 14:54 schrieb Steffen Wolfrum: Hi, please have a look at the following minimal (4 text-lines): \hyphenation{Er-gän-zungs-lie-fe-rung} \showframe \starttext Text text text text text text text text text text text text text text text 26.\,Ergänzungslieferung% this

Re: [NTG-context] hyphenation again (mkii) [solved]

2007-12-18 Thread Steffen Wolfrum
Wolfgang knew the answer, and as the solution is so brilliant I don't want to be selfish about this treasure: \definetextmodediscretionary ThinSpace {\penalty\plustenthousand\hskip.166em\relax} \definetextmodediscretionary ThickSpace {\penalty\plustenthousand\hskip.277em\relax} ... and

Re: [NTG-context] Hyphenation with apostrophes

2007-12-17 Thread Peter Münster
On Mon, Dec 17, 2007 at 11:09:44AM +0100, Taco Hoekwater wrote: At the tex level you need either \lccode`\'=`\' or make the ' an active character running a macro that is a bit like ||, e.g. this: \catcode`\'=\active \unexpanded\def'{\string'\prewordbreak} Hello, Do you

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