Re: [NTG-context] tex live and context

[Peter Münster]

On Thu, 22 Feb 2007, Sanjoy Mahajan wrote:

> > rpmbuild --rebuild --force http://pmrb.free.fr/texlive/texlive.nosrc.rpm
> 
> > With a not too bad connection to the Internet and enough disk space,
> > this works quite well (no headaches!).
> 
> and maybe also with a very recent rpm.  Sadly, my rpm (v4.4.1 on
> Ubuntu) segfaults with that command.  The bug is entered in the Redhat
> bugzilla:

Hello Sanjoy,
no problem with rpm-4.4.2 from 
http://download.opensuse.org/distribution/SL-OSS-factory/inst-source/suse/

You could also try

cd /tmp
wget http://pmrb.free.fr/texlive/texlive.nosrc.rpm
rpmbuild --rebuild --force /tmp/texlive.nosrc.rpm

or:

cd /tmp
wget http://pmrb.free.fr/texlive/texlive.nosrc.rpm
rpm -i /tmp/texlive.nosrc.rpm
rpmbuild -bb --force /usr/src/packages/SPECS/texlive.spec

Does one of these alternatives work?

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Re: [NTG-context] tree charts

[Idris Samawi Hamid]

On Thu, 22 Feb 2007 12:39:25 -0700, Aditya Mahajan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>  
wrote:

> I could not get
>> global
>> text color within a TikZ environment without individually coloring every
>> node...
>
> If a color is defined using ConTeXt's definecolor it can be used with
> tikz. Here is an example (adapted from the tikz manual)

Ok, I got confused by something the manual said about color (p. 108); I  
thought that non-LaTeX users had to use \definecolor{} which crashes on  
context...

Aditya, my hero,
THNX as always

Idris

>
> \usemodule[tikz]
> \definecolor[mycolor] [g=.75,r=.15,b=.5]
>
> \starttext
>
> \start[tikzpicture]
>[parent anchor=east,child anchor=west,grow=east]
> \tikzstyle{every node}=[ball color=mycolor,circle,text=white]
> \tikzstyle{edge from parent}=[draw,dashed,thick,red]
> \node {root}
>child {node {left}}
>child {node {right}
>child {node {child}}
>child {node {child}}
> };
> \stop[tikzpicture]
>
> \stoptext

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[NTG-context] Feature request for font-ini

[Aditya Mahajan]

Hi Hans,

Can the following be added to font-ini?

\definealternativestyle [\v!boldsans,\v!sansbold] [\bf\ss]  []

Writing

\setuphead [section,subject]  [textstyle=\bf\ss, numberstyle=\bf\ss]

does not feel ConTeXtish :)

Aditya



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Re: [NTG-context] debian tikz module

[Aditya Mahajan]

On Thu, 22 Feb 2007, plink wrote:

> Hi,
>
> when testing the small example from the tikz manual, I got this
> ... module tikz not found

You need to install the tikz module. Download tikz from the 
sourceforge website or CTAN, and unzip it in a temporary directory. 
Then you need to correct the directory structure to conform to TDS. 
There are some instructions in the tikz manual.

You will also need to install xkeyval, in case your installation does 
not have it.

> error, texexec stopping with undefined \tikzstyle.

Since tikz module is not found, these will be missing.

> On a fresh debian installation, that is.

ConTeXt compatibility was added recently (4-5 months ago). I do not 
know whether debian stable has it or not. Maybe first you should try 
to update the tex installation using debian methods (I do not know 
those).

Aditya
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[NTG-context] debian tikz module

[plink]

Hi,

when testing the small example from the tikz manual, I got this
... module tikz not found
error, texexec stopping with undefined \tikzstyle. On a fresh debian 
installation, that is.
I seem to remember this error from some earlier tryouts but not the 
solution.

Anyone for a hint?

Thanks,
Jak.
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Re: [NTG-context] tex live and context

[Sanjoy Mahajan]

> rpmbuild --rebuild --force http://pmrb.free.fr/texlive/texlive.nosrc.rpm

> With a not too bad connection to the Internet and enough disk space,
> this works quite well (no headaches!).

and maybe also with a very recent rpm.  Sadly, my rpm (v4.4.1 on
Ubuntu) segfaults with that command.  The bug is entered in the Redhat
bugzilla:



With rpm development happening again, hopefully it'll be fixed.  I
couldn't get a recent rpm to compile here in order to test whether
it's already fixed.

-Sanjoy

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Re: [NTG-context] tex live and context

[Peter Münster]

On Thu, 22 Feb 2007, Idris Samawi Hamid wrote:

> Point taken, although for the record I finally abandoned TeXLive a couple
> of years ago or so because of headaches with getting ever-newer versions
> of ConTeXt working right, then there was aleph and...

Hello Idris,

today I've just installed TeX-live on a new machine with just this command:
rpmbuild --rebuild --force http://pmrb.free.fr/texlive/texlive.nosrc.rpm

On such an installation I only need to execute "updateConTeXt.sh" to
update the ConTeXt-part when a new release comes out.

With a not too bad connection to the Internet and enough disk space, this
works quite well (no headaches!).

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Re: [NTG-context] tree charts

[Aditya Mahajan]

On Thu, 22 Feb 2007, Idris Samawi Hamid wrote:

> Hi,
>
> On Thu, 22 Feb 2007 01:30:26 -0700, Hans Hagen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>> Btw, Willy Egger has a hard cover version of that manual which me might
>> like to take to the context meeting.
>
> I'd like to see a better integration of this package with ConTeXt. For
> example, hooking it into the ConTeXt color mechanism (unless you guys have
> some tricks up your sleave you'ld like to share ;-) I could not get global
> text color within a TikZ environment without individually coloring every
> node...

If a color is defined using ConTeXt's definecolor it can be used with 
tikz. Here is an example (adapted from the tikz manual)

\usemodule[tikz]
\definecolor[mycolor] [g=.75,r=.15,b=.5]

\starttext

\start[tikzpicture]
   [parent anchor=east,child anchor=west,grow=east]
\tikzstyle{every node}=[ball color=mycolor,circle,text=white]
\tikzstyle{edge from parent}=[draw,dashed,thick,red]
\node {root}
   child {node {left}}
   child {node {right}
   child {node {child}}
   child {node {child}}
};
\stop[tikzpicture]

\stoptext

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Re: [NTG-context] tex live and context

[luigi scarso]

> Luigi,
>
> you can download the compressed iso image at a CTAN mirror under ...
ok, thank you very much.
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Re: [NTG-context] tex live and context

[Thomas A. Schmitz]

On Feb 22, 2007, at 6:17 PM, luigi scarso wrote:

> I would like to test this texlive edition: how can i do (I'm using
> linux ubuntu) ?

Luigi,

you can download the compressed iso image at a CTAN mirror under / 
systems/texlive/Images. It's 935 MB, so if you're on a slow  
connection, you'll be back next week...

Then, refer to the installation instructions on the wiki: http:// 
wiki.contextgarden.net/TeX-live

The most important thing is that after installation (befor you try to  
build the formats etc.), you should make sure that the new binaries  
come in your $PATH before anything else, so something like
export PATH="/usr/local/texlive/2007/bin/i386-linux $PATH"
should get you going.

Once that is done, everything else is almost automatic: the  
kpathsearch library will find the other parts of the TeX installation  
relative to the place where its own binaries are, so when you invoke  
fmtutil-sys --all, all the format files will be placed in the new  
trees. If you decide you want to revert to your old system, simply  
remove /usr/local/texlive/2007/bin/i386-linux from your path again. I  
hope I'm not forgetting anything important...

Thomas
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Re: [NTG-context] tex live and context

[Idris Samawi Hamid]

Hi Thomas,

On Thu, 22 Feb 2007 09:57:26 -0700, Thomas A. Schmitz  
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> On Feb 22, 2007, at 5:40 PM, Idris Samawi Hamid wrote:
>
>>> after some testing taco and i found out that tl has recent map
>>> files but
>>> that there's a problem with rsync and time outs on large trees,
>>> which is
>>> why my local texlive copy is incomplete; so, it mostly depends on
>>> what
>>> snapshot one uses
>>
>> This is exactly why I stick with mswincontext.zip, to avoid
>> headaches like
>> this ;-)

> I sympathize, but I think you're a bit unfair here. If I understand
> Hans's mail right, he was not installing from the image, but rsyncing
> his trees with TeXLive, and that's where the error was. I've been
> running the development version for at least three months now (even
> when it still was called 2006...) and haven't had any troubles,
> especially wrt to fonts and packages.

Point taken, although for the record I finally abandoned TeXLive a couple  
of years ago or so because of headaches with getting ever-newer versions  
of ConTeXt working right, then there was aleph and...

> On a linux or OS X box, I would
> even recommend installing it alongside the minimal and switch between
> them to test things, but I have no idea if/how this is possible on
> winblows.

Well, there's setuptex.bat which allows this and I do have a XemTeX tree  
 from Fabrice. Maybe I'll update XemTeX and see what happens.

Best
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Re: [NTG-context] tex live and context

[luigi scarso]

> especially wrt to fonts and packages. On a linux or OS X box, I would
> even recommend installing it alongside the minimal and switch between
> them to test things, but I have no idea if/how this is possible on
> winblows.
I would like to test this texlive edition: how can i do (I'm using
linux ubuntu) ?
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Re: [NTG-context] tex live and context

[Thomas A. Schmitz]

On Feb 22, 2007, at 5:40 PM, Idris Samawi Hamid wrote:

>> after some testing taco and i found out that tl has recent map  
>> files but
>> that there's a problem with rsync and time outs on large trees,  
>> which is
>> why my local texlive copy is incomplete; so, it mostly depends on  
>> what
>> snapshot one uses
>
> This is exactly why I stick with mswincontext.zip, to avoid  
> headaches like
> this ;-)
>
> Idris

Idris,

I sympathize, but I think you're a bit unfair here. If I understand  
Hans's mail right, he was not installing from the image, but rsyncing  
his trees with TeXLive, and that's where the error was. I've been  
running the development version for at least three months now (even  
when it still was called 2006...) and haven't had any troubles,  
especially wrt to fonts and packages. On a linux or OS X box, I would  
even recommend installing it alongside the minimal and switch between  
them to test things, but I have no idea if/how this is possible on  
winblows.

Best

Thomas
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Re: [NTG-context] tree charts

[Idris Samawi Hamid]

Hi,

On Thu, 22 Feb 2007 01:30:26 -0700, Hans Hagen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Btw, Willy Egger has a hard cover version of that manual which me might
> like to take to the context meeting.

I'd like to see a better integration of this package with ConTeXt. For  
example, hooking it into the ConTeXt color mechanism (unless you guys have  
some tricks up your sleave you'ld like to share ;-) I could not get global  
text color within a TikZ environment without individually coloring every  
node...

Best
Idris

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Re: [NTG-context] tex live and context

[Idris Samawi Hamid]

[redirected from Re: [NTG-context] On tikz]

Hi Thomas,

On Wed, 21 Feb 2007 14:16:16 -0700, Thomas A. Schmitz  
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> On Feb 21, 2007, at 10:04 PM, Idris Samawi Hamid wrote:
>
>> Ahh, but I just use mswincontext, no TeXLive, so install I must ;-)
>
> What an excellent occasion to switch to something more standard ;-))

On Thu, 22 Feb 2007 02:58:06 -0700, Hans Hagen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Hans Hagen wrote:

>> TeX Live ships with incomplete map files.
>>
> after some testing taco and i found out that tl has recent map files but  
> that there's a problem with rsync and time outs on large trees, which is  
> why my local texlive copy is incomplete; so, it mostly depends on what  
> snapshot one uses

This is exactly why I stick with mswincontext.zip, to avoid headaches like  
this ;-)

Idris

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Re: [NTG-context] strange text/math spacing

[Olaf Mersmann]

Hi Vyatcheslav,

> - Vyatcheslav Yatskovsky <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [070222 14:17]:
> Hi, 
> 
> I found a small but annoying thing about math. When I typeset
> in-line formula like '...a vector of $a_x$ is...', it creates too
> little space between 'of' and succeeding lowercase math
> symbol.

I cannot reproduce your problem. Take a look at this minimal example:


%% Pick one of the following for different types of bounding boxes.
%\def\boxit#1{{#1}}
%\def\boxit#1{\hbox{#1}}
\def\boxit#1{\hbox{\strut #1}}
\showmakeup
\starttext
The absolute value of \boxit{a} is positive.\crlf
The absolute value of \boxit{\it a} is positive.\crlf
The absolute value of \boxit{$a$} is positive.\crlf

The absolute value of \boxit{b} is positive.\crlf
The absolute value of \boxit{\it b} is positive.\crlf
The absolute value of \boxit{$b$} is positive.\crlf

The absolute value of \boxit{A} is positive.\crlf
The absolute value of \boxit{\it A} is positive.\crlf
The absolute value of \boxit{$A$} is positive.\crlf

The absolute value of \boxit{B} is positive.\crlf
The absolute value of \boxit{\it B} is positive.\crlf
The absolute value of \boxit{$B$} is positive.\crlf
\stoptext


The distance between the 'of' and the following letter is the same for
a math mode $a$ or a regular roman a. Only if we switch to italics is
a little extra space added. At least for my eye the letters are evenly
spaced.

HTH
Olaf


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[NTG-context] strange text/math spacing

[Vyatcheslav Yatskovsky]

Hi, 

I found a small but annoying thing about math. When I typeset in-line formula 
like '...a vector of $a_x$ is...', it creates too little space between 'of' and 
succeeding lowercase math symbol.Uppercase math symbol is treated right.  I can 
leave it as it is, but it strange to me why TeX performs poor on that. 

(There too many 'of' for testing purposes).

 
\starttext 

In MATLAB, we can create the Leslie matrix using {\tt gallery('leslie', A, B)} 
command, where of $A$ is a vector of $a_x$ with dimensions of $[1:X]$ and of 
$B$ is a vector of \mathematics{b_x} with dimensions of $[1:X-1]$. 

\stoptext 
 

Best, 
Vyatcheslav 

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Re: [NTG-context] compiling complex file

[andrea valle]

Thanks Wolfgang and Aditya,
I'll try to use ConTeXt structure and report back.
I will change filenames, it's cleaner, but it's not that one the 
problem (I used other filenames without the dot and result was the 
same).


Many thanks

Best
-a-



On 22 Feb 2007, at 10:45, Wolfgang Schuster wrote:

> On Wed, 21 Feb 2007 22:21:15 +0100
> andrea valle <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>> (I'm sorry, Hans, Taco, I' ve already sent it, always with some 
>> posting
>> problems, so there are 2 posts to be approved by moderator: I tried to
>> remove them but the process failed).
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Dear ConTeXter,
>>
>> I'm having some troubles in compiling a document.
>>
>> I'm writing a short book (a tutorial). I writing each chapter on a
>> separate file, then I have a main file using this kind of structure
>>
>> \input stile
>> ...
>> \input 00.introduzione
>> \page
>> \input 01.scGrado0
>> \page
>> \input 02.architettura
>> ...
>>
>> Where \input is used to insert each chapter.
>>
>> Also, I'm using a sort of style file defining the setups, and I'm
>> inputting it as the first line of my "main.tex" file.
>>
>> Some chapters contain long framed \type parts (it's a book on a
>> programming language), filling an entire page. When I compile each
>> chapter file, I have no problem.
>> But I can't compile the main file. ConTeXt keeps on adding blank pages
>> on blank pages (total is approx. 100 pages, I stopped ConTeXt at 635).
>> I guess it could depend on framed \type but can't understand how to
>> solve it.
>> Here one of the most "difficult" files. By itself it compiles properly
>> (perfectly...I like it).
>>
>> http://www.semiotiche.it/andrea/membrana/03.oggetti.tex
>>
>> Here the compiled file (it uses a lot of images and other stuff so you
>> can't compile it):
>>
>> http://www.semiotiche.it/andrea/membrana/03.oggetti.pdf
>>
>> Here the style file:
>>
>> http://www.semiotiche.it/andrea/membrana/stile.tex
>>
>>
>> Here the main file:
>> http://www.semiotiche.it/andrea/membrana/main.tex
>>
>> Many thanks as usual
>>
>> -a-
>>
>
> Hi Andrea,
>
> TeX has problems to find your documents, this is no problem when you
> compile them alone, but TeX means after the \input command you have a
> file with the name "00.introduzione" with "00" as filename and
> "introduzione" as file type. You should try to use something else as
> seperator between the number and the text in your filenames like "-".
>
> You should also try to use ConTeXts own commands for documents
> structures as Aditya told you in the other post.
>
> Wolfgang
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Re: [NTG-context] tex live and context

[Hans Hagen]

Hans Hagen wrote:
> Hi,
>
> If you update your tex to the latest tex live cq. debian, also get the 
> latest latin modern
>
> http://www.gust.org.pl/projects/e-foundry/latin-modern/download
>
> (you don't need the context related zip there; i need that for older 
> setups)
>
> TeX Live ships with incomplete map files.
>   
after some testing taco and i found out that tl has recent map files but that 
there's a problem with rsync and time outs on large trees, which is why my 
local texlive copy is incomplete; so, it mostly depends on what snapshot one 
uses 

Hans 

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Re: [NTG-context] compiling complex file

[Wolfgang Schuster]

On Wed, 21 Feb 2007 22:21:15 +0100
andrea valle <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> (I'm sorry, Hans, Taco, I' ve already sent it, always with some posting 
> problems, so there are 2 posts to be approved by moderator: I tried to 
> remove them but the process failed).
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Dear ConTeXter,
> 
> I'm having some troubles in compiling a document.
> 
> I'm writing a short book (a tutorial). I writing each chapter on a 
> separate file, then I have a main file using this kind of structure
> 
> \input stile
> ...
> \input 00.introduzione
> \page
> \input 01.scGrado0
> \page
> \input 02.architettura
> ...
> 
> Where \input is used to insert each chapter.
> 
> Also, I'm using a sort of style file defining the setups, and I'm 
> inputting it as the first line of my "main.tex" file.
> 
> Some chapters contain long framed \type parts (it's a book on a 
> programming language), filling an entire page. When I compile each 
> chapter file, I have no problem.
> But I can't compile the main file. ConTeXt keeps on adding blank pages 
> on blank pages (total is approx. 100 pages, I stopped ConTeXt at 635).
> I guess it could depend on framed \type but can't understand how to 
> solve it.
> Here one of the most "difficult" files. By itself it compiles properly 
> (perfectly...I like it).
> 
> http://www.semiotiche.it/andrea/membrana/03.oggetti.tex
> 
> Here the compiled file (it uses a lot of images and other stuff so you 
> can't compile it):
> 
> http://www.semiotiche.it/andrea/membrana/03.oggetti.pdf
> 
> Here the style file:
> 
> http://www.semiotiche.it/andrea/membrana/stile.tex
> 
> 
> Here the main file:
> http://www.semiotiche.it/andrea/membrana/main.tex
> 
> Many thanks as usual
> 
> -a-
> 

Hi Andrea,

TeX has problems to find your documents, this is no problem when you
compile them alone, but TeX means after the \input command you have a
file with the name "00.introduzione" with "00" as filename and
"introduzione" as file type. You should try to use something else as
seperator between the number and the text in your filenames like "-".

You should also try to use ConTeXts own commands for documents
structures as Aditya told you in the other post.

Wolfgang
 
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[NTG-context] tex live and context

[Hans Hagen]

Hi,

If you update your tex to the latest tex live cq. debian, also get the 
latest latin modern

http://www.gust.org.pl/projects/e-foundry/latin-modern/download

(you don't need the context related zip there; i need that for older 
setups)

TeX Live ships with incomplete map files.

Hans 

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Re: [NTG-context] On tikz

[luigi scarso]

> Also have a look at http://www.fauskes.net/pgftikzexamples/all/
bookmarked; a beatiful site.
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Re: [NTG-context] tree charts

[Hans Hagen]

Aditya Mahajan wrote:
> I also found the following to be funny:
>
> 
> 2.2.3 Setting up the Environment in ConTEXt
> Karl$B!G(Bs uncle Hans uses ConTEXt. Like Gerda, Hans can also use TikZ.
> 
>
>   
i saw that one -)

Btw, Willy Egger has a hard cover version of that manual which me might 
like to take to the context meeting.

Hans

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  Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands
 tel: 038 477 53 69 | fax: 038 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com
 | www.pragma-pod.nl
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