Re: [NTG-context] MathML in Context

2007-11-02 Thread Maurí­cio
>> Hi,
>>
>> I've been trying to learn how to insert MathML in
>> Context file. I found many examples of how MathML
>> code should look like, formula or presentational,
>> but no example on how to actually insert it
>> in Context.  I tried \math{ mathml stuff}
>> and it didn't work. Can you guys point me to
>> an example?
>>
> Have you looked at the mathml and xml manuals at pragma-ade's website?
> 
> Aditya
> 

Yes. Some of them show examples of MathML code and how
Context would deal with them. But I couldn't find one
that shows how to insert MathML inside a Context
document. I'm probably missing something just in
front of my face, but I've looked many times already
and can't find that.

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Re: [NTG-context] MathML in Context

2007-11-02 Thread Aditya Mahajan

On Sat, 3 Nov 2007, Maurí­cio wrote:


Hi,

I've been trying to learn how to insert MathML in
Context file. I found many examples of how MathML
code should look like, formula or presentational,
but no example on how to actually insert it
in Context.  I tried \math{ mathml stuff}
and it didn't work. Can you guys point me to
an example?


Have you looked at the mathml and xml manuals at pragma-ade's website?

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Re: [NTG-context] Notepad++ colour settings

2007-11-02 Thread Aditya Mahajan
On Fri, 2 Nov 2007, John Culleton wrote:

> On Friday 02 November 2007 08:12:31 am [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>> I have downloaded the latest Notepad++ and ConTeXt settings as suggested
>> by Professor Hamid and I'm enjoying the experience of using them!
>>
>> However, I do not really like the colour scheme and tried to alter the
>> background colours by editing "Application
>> Data/Notepad++/UserDefineLang.xml", shutting down Notepad++ and starting
>> up again (via Npp.bat), but no change.  I also tried editing the "tex"
>> entry in "Application Data/Notepad++/stylers.xml", but no joy.
>> I tried going to menu item Settings - Style Configurator, but Context
>> isn't in the list of languages.
>>
>> How can I alter the default colour settings for ConTeXt, please?
>>
>> Richard Stephens
>
> You might have more luck with Vim/Gvim which has an open-ended syntax
> highlighting scheme with almost 500 files named e.g., cobol.vim in the
> subdirectory syntax. It will do automatic sensing by suffix but you can
> manually select one too.  It even has one for Context.
>
> You can modify the syntax files if you like or create new ones but either
> task looks like an all-day project to me.

I would like to disagree here. I love vim, and use it for all my editing 
tasks, but it is not easy to write a syntax file for vim. Simple syntax is 
easy, but getting correct syntax highlighting for context is a hard thing. 
I have been writing one syntax file for almost a year now, but it is not 
perfect. The difficulty is doing context sensitive highlighting. For 
example, for

\setupwhatver[key=value]

I want setupwhatever to be blue, and key=value to be red. Now sometimes, 
value is be a series of context commands entered as key={value}. In that 
case, I want everything in brackets to be hightlighted as the default 
context hightlighting (rather than red), so that if I make a mistake in 
the long statement, the syntax highlighting can help me. This is ok, but 
things gets hard when you want to do

\setupwhatever[before={\setupsomething[key=value]}].

And now, the same problem for key=value setting in the nested setup 
command.

There are other things which are difficult. \type is one command which I 
can never get to work. It is easy to get things like \type|command| or 
\type+command+ or \type{command} to give the correct highlighting, but 
something like \type{\command{parameter}} is hard.

I could not find enough hooks in the vim syntax highlighting to get 
everything that I want. I have not really looked at how configurable the 
highlighting features of other languages are. But what I want to say here 
is that writing syntax highlighting for context is hard. And it is 
certainly not a one day project.

Aditya
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[NTG-context] MathML in Context

2007-11-02 Thread Maurí­cio
Hi,

I've been trying to learn how to insert MathML in
Context file. I found many examples of how MathML
code should look like, formula or presentational,
but no example on how to actually insert it
in Context.  I tried \math{ mathml stuff}
and it didn't work. Can you guys point me to
an example?

Thanks,
Maurício

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[NTG-context] Fatal format file error; I'm stymied THANKS for HELP

2007-11-02 Thread Ernesto Schirmacher

Thank you to Luigi, Taco, Hans, and Aditya for all your help and suggestions.

As it turned out Taco's suggestion of an old format was right on and Aditya's 
reassurance that the Ubuntu repositories were not at fault I found some old 
format files in my home directory that TexExec was seeing before finding the 
correct ones in the texmf tree.

Now it seems I'm ready to start my journey into the world of ConTeXt.

Thanks again,

Ernesto
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Re: [NTG-context] +1 ConTeXt noobie/user

2007-11-02 Thread luigi scarso
> While I was at it, I added Kate as well.
Good.

So, maybe it's time to think to an "official context editor", i mean,
an editor that is bundled with a context distro .
It's no important that all  like it, it's important that we have one of valid .
and official.
Think to MS-Windows which come with wordpad, or Linux ,which come with Vim .

Maybe scite ?
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Re: [NTG-context] +1 ConTeXt noobie/user

2007-11-02 Thread luigi scarso
On 11/2/07, Mojca Miklavec <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On 11/2/07, luigi scarso wrote:
> > On 11/2/07, Matija Šuklje wrote:
> > > Dne petek 2. novembra 2007 je Matija Šuklje napisal(a):
> > > > > http://wiki.contextgarden.net/Text_editor
> > > > done ... I hope it's good enough.
> > > There does not seem to be any changes applied so I supose it's either 
> > > waiting
> > > for approval or just rejected it since it was posted anonymously. I'll 
> > > wait
> > > for further instructions.
> >
> > I think you  must be a registered user.
> > Also, sometimes an "Answer to this question " form appears to prevent 
> > automatic
> > editing (I suppose), so watch out also for this form ( usually near the 
> > top) .
>
> One doesn't need to be registered to be able to edit pages. However,
> an advanced calculus course is highly recommended (if not a
> prerequisite) to solve the puzzle :P :-)
>
> It's really a pitty that we don't have any statistics of how many
> *people* fail on it :), perhaps together with their IPs, but you just
> gave me a nice idea for a 5-minute-presentation for the next meeting
> :P
>
> The number of spamming-bots has been reduced from approximately 20
> edits per day to an absolute zero (I only remember a single case of
> manual vandalism), so it's pretty boring now since there are almost no
> wiki edits any more.
(low-quality, high-numbers) and viceversa
>
> I was trying to collect some ideas for the "wiki competition", but got
> no response to that mail. Perhaps I should repost it?
I remember , it was on 18 september
"Best Wiki Contributor" & "Best Garden Design": competition & call for
sponsors

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Re: [NTG-context] Notepad++ colour settings

2007-11-02 Thread John Culleton
On Friday 02 November 2007 08:12:31 am [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> I have downloaded the latest Notepad++ and ConTeXt settings as suggested
> by Professor Hamid and I'm enjoying the experience of using them!
>
> However, I do not really like the colour scheme and tried to alter the
> background colours by editing "Application
> Data/Notepad++/UserDefineLang.xml", shutting down Notepad++ and starting
> up again (via Npp.bat), but no change.  I also tried editing the "tex"
> entry in "Application Data/Notepad++/stylers.xml", but no joy.
> I tried going to menu item Settings - Style Configurator, but Context
> isn't in the list of languages.
>
> How can I alter the default colour settings for ConTeXt, please?
>
> Richard Stephens

You might have more luck with Vim/Gvim which has an open-ended syntax 
highlighting scheme with almost 500 files named e.g., cobol.vim in the 
subdirectory syntax. It will do automatic sensing by suffix but you can 
manually select one too.  It even has one for Context. 

 You can modify the syntax files if you like or create new ones but either 
task looks like an all-day project to me. 

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Re: [NTG-context] MathML in Metafun

2007-11-02 Thread Maurí­cio
>> Is it possible to use MathML inside
>> a Metapost or Metafun label?
> 
> I'm not 100% sure, but \sometxt{... your ConTeXt stuff with mathml
> here ...} could work.

It seems a good idea. But, actually, I should have learned
how to insert MathML in Context in the first place. Do
you know a good doc on that? I can find hundreds of MathML
examples in the wiki, but none of them are inside Context
documents.

Thanks,
Maurício

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Re: [NTG-context] New build problems

2007-11-02 Thread Mojca Miklavec
On 11/2/07, Vyatcheslav Yatskovsky wrote:
> Hello,
>
> The new build works..  after copying the bin folder into bin2, deleting it, 
> and renaming bin2 to bin.
>
> Something very strange is going on here ...

Hmmm ... I don't understand that either, but in that case I really
suspect rsync.

Thanks a lot for testing :)

Mojca
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Re: [NTG-context] Which ConTeXt editor do you use?

2007-11-02 Thread Horacio Suarez

is here

http://texshow.contextgarden.net/

You can see almost all context commands and most of their keys.

Very necesary!!



Horacio Suarez
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Subject: Re: [NTG-context] Which ConTeXt editor do you use?
Date: Fri, 02 Nov 2007 20:04:06 -0200

>>
>> I?m using emacs + auctex.
>>
>> Suerte.
>>
>
> Me, too. Never needed anything else than emacs + auctex + texshow.
> (...)
 >
> Piotr
>

Also think auctex is nice. What is texshow? What does it do, and
where can I find it?

Thanks,
Maurício

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Re: [NTG-context] Kate ConTeXt highlighting

2007-11-02 Thread Matija Šuklje
I contacted the author and he changed an error in it an added a few more 
things ...

cheers,
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Re: [NTG-context] +1 ConTeXt noobie/user

2007-11-02 Thread Matija Šuklje
While I was adding Kile and Kate ...what is "ConTeXt Typsetting" in the 
context of tex(t) editors?

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Re: [NTG-context] New build problems

2007-11-02 Thread Vyatcheslav Yatskovsky
Hello,

The new build works..  after copying the bin folder into bin2, deleting it, and 
renaming bin2 to bin.

Something very strange is going on here ...

Best regards,
Vyatcheslav Yatskovsky

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Re: [NTG-context] xml misc

2007-11-02 Thread luigi scarso
On 11/2/07, Andrea Valle <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Ciao Luigi,
>
> grazie.
> I didn't know about lxml. Very goo dto know.
> But the idea was to "stay inside" ConTeXt so to be able to generate the pdf
> from inside SuperCollider using the provided  interface to bash.
Do you mean using \executesystemcommand ?
Be careful, thing can be slow down
> I'd like to consider luatex, but I'm only a bit scaredby
> - installation issued (so I'm waitin for a TeXlive release)
hmm, why don't give it a try ?
You are under linux, isn't it ?
It should be not so difficult to setup a context-mkiv, and
mkiv will be the way .
> - documentation. (where's lxml_in_luatex documentation? I guess in sources)
yes

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Re: [NTG-context] Which ConTeXt editor do you use?

2007-11-02 Thread Maurí­cio
>>
>> I?m using emacs + auctex.
>>
>> Suerte.
>>
> 
> Me, too. Never needed anything else than emacs + auctex + texshow.
> (...)
 >
> Piotr
> 

Also think auctex is nice. What is texshow? What does it do, and
where can I find it?

Thanks,
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Re: [NTG-context] Multiple pages in \startstandardmakeup..\endstandardmakeup

2007-11-02 Thread Ángel Luis García Fernández
> On 11/2/07, ?ngel Luis Garc?a Fern?ndez wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > how can I have multiple pages in the standardmakeup section?. I have
> > tried
> >
> > \startstandardmakeup
> >   \input 
> >   \page[odd]
> >   \input xx
> > \stopstandardmakeup
> >
> > but all the text appears in just one page. I have tried other arguments
> > for the \page command (blank, empty...) but nothing works
>
> Perhaps this?
>
>  \startstandardmakeup
>\input 
>  \stopstandardmakeup
>  \startstandardmakeup
>\input xx
>  \stopstandardmakeup
>
> Mojca

Thanks a lot :-)

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Re: [NTG-context] xml misc

2007-11-02 Thread Andrea Valle

Thanks Hans,

On 1 Nov 2007, at 09:23, Hans Hagen wrote:



\defineXMLignore[style]


Ok


\mapXMLvalue cum suis ... see x-* files for examples


Where? I'm still having difficulties in knowing how to find sources,  
plus on macosx these are typically hidden files so I have to make  
some tricks to have them searchable.


Best

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Re: [NTG-context] xml misc

2007-11-02 Thread Andrea Valle

Ciao Luigi,

grazie.
I didn't know about lxml. Very goo dto know.
But the idea was to "stay inside" ConTeXt so to be able to generate  
the pdf from inside SuperCollider using the provided  interface to bash.

I'd like to consider luatex, but I'm only a bit scaredby
- installation issued (so I'm waitin for a TeXlive release)
- documentation. (where's lxml_in_luatex documentation? I guess in  
sources)


Best

-a-




On 1 Nov 2007, at 05:47, luigi scarso wrote:


On 11/1/07, Andrea Valle <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Hi to all,

I' ve started playing with xml --> context.
I've read the docs but even if I am able to do some very basic  
operation I'm

in troubles doing my first real experiment.

I've  already generated a book from the collection of html help  
files of the

SuperCollider language using a cumbersome python script.
But I was guessing that probably using xml mapping would make my life
easier.


Indeed, lxml under python is a cool module.
See
http://codespeak.net/lxml/
lxml_in_python  implements also full xpath/xslt


An example file  to be processed is here:


Please ,if you can, consider luatex+context mkiv; in base folder see
l-xml-edu.lua  lxml-ini.lua  lxml-ini.tex  l-xml.lua
(warning : lxml here has nothing to do with lxml in python, only  
the same names)
I believe that actually lxml_in_luatex does not implements a full  
xpath/xslt,

because  not always these are useful in this context.

(If I need a full xpath/xslthere here, then I have a too much complex
xml document, and I preprocessing it with lxml_in_python)

With lxml_in_python_ and lxml_in_luatex_
you can solve all ** reasonable ** problems.
Sometimes only lxml_in_python is need, sometimes only  
lxm_in_luatex, it depends.


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Re: [NTG-context] +1 ConTeXt noobie/user

2007-11-02 Thread Mojca Miklavec
On 11/2/07, luigi scarso wrote:
> On 11/2/07, Matija Šuklje wrote:
> > Dne petek 2. novembra 2007 je Matija Šuklje napisal(a):
> > > > http://wiki.contextgarden.net/Text_editor
> > > done ... I hope it's good enough.
> > There does not seem to be any changes applied so I supose it's either 
> > waiting
> > for approval or just rejected it since it was posted anonymously. I'll wait
> > for further instructions.
>
> I think you  must be a registered user.
> Also, sometimes an "Answer to this question " form appears to prevent 
> automatic
> editing (I suppose), so watch out also for this form ( usually near the top) .

One doesn't need to be registered to be able to edit pages. However,
an advanced calculus course is highly recommended (if not a
prerequisite) to solve the puzzle :P :-)

It's really a pitty that we don't have any statistics of how many
*people* fail on it :), perhaps together with their IPs, but you just
gave me a nice idea for a 5-minute-presentation for the next meeting
:P

The number of spamming-bots has been reduced from approximately 20
edits per day to an absolute zero (I only remember a single case of
manual vandalism), so it's pretty boring now since there are almost no
wiki edits any more.

I was trying to collect some ideas for the "wiki competition", but got
no response to that mail. Perhaps I should repost it?

Mojca
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Re: [NTG-context] Notepad++ colour settings

2007-11-02 Thread Idris Samawi Hamid
On Fri, 02 Nov 2007 07:44:14 -0600, Hans Hagen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
>> How can I alter the default colour settings for ConTeXt, please?
>
> does np++ has readable config files?

Npp uses xml files for configuration mostly. Most of the *.xml and all of  
the *.api files (autocompletion) are quite readable, though stylers.xml is  
pretty ugly. OTOH stylers.xml is easily configured through the gui, and  
much more fun.

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Re: [NTG-context] +1 ConTeXt noobie/user

2007-11-02 Thread Matija Šuklje
Dne petek 2. novembra 2007 je luigi scarso napisal(a):
> I think you  must be a registered user.

Naah, the captcha is enough. I just didn't see it the first time :]

While I was at it, I added Kate as well.


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Re: [NTG-context] Multiple pages in \startstandardmakeup..\endstandardmakeup

2007-11-02 Thread Mojca Miklavec
On 11/2/07, Ángel Luis García Fernández wrote:
> Hi,
>
> how can I have multiple pages in the standardmakeup section?. I have tried
>
> \startstandardmakeup
>   \input 
>   \page[odd]
>   \input xx
> \stopstandardmakeup
>
> but all the text appears in just one page. I have tried other arguments for
> the \page command (blank, empty...) but nothing works

Perhaps this?

 \startstandardmakeup
   \input 
 \stopstandardmakeup
 \startstandardmakeup
   \input xx
 \stopstandardmakeup

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Re: [NTG-context] +1 ConTeXt noobie/user

2007-11-02 Thread luigi scarso
On 11/2/07, Matija Šuklje <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Dne petek 2. novembra 2007 je Matija Šuklje napisal(a):
> > > http://wiki.contextgarden.net/Text_editor
> > done ... I hope it's good enough.
> There does not seem to be any changes applied so I supose it's either waiting
> for approval or just rejected it since it was posted anonymously. I'll wait
> for further instructions.
I think you  must be a registered user.
Also, sometimes an "Answer to this question " form appears to prevent automatic
editing (I suppose), so watch out also for this form ( usually near the top) .
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Re: [NTG-context] +1 ConTeXt noobie/user

2007-11-02 Thread Matija Šuklje
...nevermind, I just didn't see the captcha  ...oh, well, here we go again :P

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[NTG-context] Multiple pages in \startstandardmakeup..\endstandardmakeup

2007-11-02 Thread Ángel Luis García Fernández
Hi,

how can I have multiple pages in the standardmakeup section?. I have tried

\startstandardmakeup
  \input 
  \page[odd]
  \input xx
\stopstandardmakeup

but all the text appears in just one page. I have tried other arguments for 
the \page command (blank, empty...) but nothing works

Thanks in advance

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Re: [NTG-context] +1 ConTeXt noobie/user

2007-11-02 Thread Matija Šuklje
Dne petek 2. novembra 2007 je Matija Šuklje napisal(a):
> > http://wiki.contextgarden.net/Text_editor
> done ... I hope it's good enough.

...or at least, I edited that page without logging in and pressed the save 
changes button.

There does not seem to be any changes applied so I supose it's either waiting 
for approval or just rejected it since it was posted anonymously. I'll wait 
for further instructions.

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Re: [NTG-context] Fatal format file error; I'm stymied

2007-11-02 Thread Aditya Mahajan
On Fri, 2 Nov 2007, Hans Hagen wrote:

> Ernesto Schirmacher wrote:
>> After many years as a LaTeX user I'm attempting to switch over to ConTeXt.
>>
>> I recently upgraded my operating system to Ubuntu 7.10 (on an AMD64 machine) 
>> and got the TeXLive and ConTeXt packages from the Ubuntu repositories.  I 
>> tried compiling a very simple document:
>>
>> \starttext
>>
>> Hello this is \ConTeXt.
>>
>> \stoptext
>>
>> using the command: texexec simple.tex and got the following output on my 
>> terminal:
>>
>> TeXExec | processing document 'simple.tex'
>> TeXExec | no ctx file found
>> TeXExec | tex processing method: context
>> TeXExec | TeX run 1
>> TeXExec | writing option file simple.top
>> TeXExec | using randomseed 898
>> TeXExec | tex engine: pdftex
>> TeXExec | tex format: cont-en
>> This is pdfTeXk, Version 3.141592-1.40.3 (Web2C 7.5.6)
>> %$-line parsing enabled.
>> (/usr/share/texmf/web2c/natural.tcx)
>> ---! cont-en.fmt was written by pdfetex
>> (Fatal format file error; I'm stymied)
>> TeXExec | runtime: 0.177424
>>
>>
>> Clearly something is not working properly and I suspect the incompatibility 
>> between
>>This is pdfTeXk...
>> and
>>---! cont-en.fmt was written by pdfetex
>> is the source of all trouble here.
>>
>> Could someone please point me in the right direction to resolve this?
>
> pdfetex is obsolete now; there should only be a pdftex binary
>
> since ubunto is based on debian i assume that they use the same
> packages, so i cc to norbert

I can confirm that context works fine on ubuntu 7.10 (amd 64). I 
recently installed it on my laptop (fresh install of ubuntu), and 
followed the instructions on the wiki, and it worked. So, the ubuntu 
repository is ok.

I cannot help with the problem since I am still trying to figure out 
the nitty gritty of linux.

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Re: [NTG-context] +1 ConTeXt noobie/user

2007-11-02 Thread Matija Šuklje
Dne petek 2. novembra 2007 je luigi scarso napisal(a):
> Can you write something about kile at
> http://wiki.contextgarden.net/Text_editor

done ... I hope it's good enough.

lp,
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Re: [NTG-context] Notepad++ colour settings

2007-11-02 Thread Idris Samawi Hamid
Hi,

On Fri, 02 Nov 2007 06:12:31 -0600, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>  
wrote:

> I have downloaded the latest Notepad++ and ConTeXt settings as suggested
> by Professor Hamid and I'm enjoying the experience of using them!
>
> However, I do not really like the colour scheme and tried to alter the
> background colours by editing "Application
> Data/Notepad++/UserDefineLang.xml", shutting down Notepad++ and starting
> up again (via Npp.bat), but no change.  I also tried editing the "tex"
> entry in "Application Data/Notepad++/stylers.xml", but no joy.
> I tried going to menu item Settings - Style Configurator, but Context
> isn't in the list of languages.
>
> How can I alter the default colour settings for ConTeXt, please?

Use the User Define Language dialog (the button to the left of the red-dot  
button)

http://notepad-plus.sourceforge.net/uk/UserLanguageDefineSystem-HOWTO.php

Choose ConTeXt and adjust anything you like (including color)!

Also, in Settings - Style Configurator, configure Global Styles.
There is also a Global Override option.

So there is a global color scheme and a language-specific one.

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Re: [NTG-context] Notepad++ colour settings

2007-11-02 Thread Hans Hagen
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> How can I alter the default colour settings for ConTeXt, please?

does np++ has readable config files?

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Re: [NTG-context] New build problems

2007-11-02 Thread Vyatcheslav Yatskovsky
Hello Mojca,

I use rather old rsync. Did it change recently?
So, you think that the file was broken while fetching... May be, I' going to 
retry.

Thank you

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[NTG-context] Notepad++ colour settings

2007-11-02 Thread richard . stephens
I have downloaded the latest Notepad++ and ConTeXt settings as suggested 
by Professor Hamid and I'm enjoying the experience of using them!

However, I do not really like the colour scheme and tried to alter the 
background colours by editing "Application 
Data/Notepad++/UserDefineLang.xml", shutting down Notepad++ and starting 
up again (via Npp.bat), but no change.  I also tried editing the "tex" 
entry in "Application Data/Notepad++/stylers.xml", but no joy.
I tried going to menu item Settings - Style Configurator, but Context 
isn't in the list of languages.

How can I alter the default colour settings for ConTeXt, please?

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Re: [NTG-context] New build problems

2007-11-02 Thread Mojca Miklavec
On 11/2/07, Vyatcheslav Yatskovsky wrote:
> Hello Mojca,
>
> Thank you.
>
> I'm not in position to change dir names because it doesn't help with that 
> error (I tried), and I updated my environment variables for the new build.
>
> Really, it is not important which part doesn't work if they don't work at 
> all. :) Who compiled texlua?

I take it from Akira's page (W32TeX). I don't know which version
exacly it was (files date back to 08-Sep-2007 03:06). I stopped
fetching the latest version from svn since Hans and Taco said that it
would be better to wait for the new beta instead of having the latest
non-working version :). But I didn't change anyhing about the binaries
since almost two months (unless I forgot to include some files). So I
really have no idea where to start looking for the problems. In any
case: luatex should not crash.

Hans reported that overwriting the existing bin directory with the old
binaries worked (but that was rsync problem). Which rsync are you
using?

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Re: [NTG-context] upright sans math

2007-11-02 Thread Mojca Miklavec
On 10/31/07, Henning Hraban Ramm wrote:
> Ahoi!
>
> I need to typeset some formulae in upright Helvetica (TeX Gyre Heros,
> URW Nimbus or similar).
> Is this already pre-made in the ConTeXt distribution? I couldn't find it.
>
> Greetlings, Hraban

If it's only about typesetting a few letters, you can fake that a bit:

\usetypescript[postscript][ec]
\setupbodyfont[postscript]

\def\my#1{\text{\ss#1}}

\starttext
\ss a+b+c+d $a+b+c+\my{d}$
\stoptext

You could do a similar trick for greek letters (using TeX Gyre
Adventor in greek encoding if that's available for example).

I don't know about any math package for Helvetica in ConTeXt and
http://ctan.tug.org/tex-archive/info/Free_Math_Font_Survey/survey.html
doesn't point out any collection either. hv-math is not free (as far
as I understand). It's not so difficult to add support for a font to
ConTeXt if font is nicely prepared (you only copy the definitions for
Antykwa Torunska, for example), but I'm not sure if any ConTeXt user
has that particular font ...

TeX Gyre math fonts are not ready yet, but since the text fonts have
already been released, they might be approaching in the near future. I
have no idea about the current state of the project though.

If you have any more particular questions, feel free to ask.

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Re: [NTG-context] Problem with nested \quotation and \quote

2007-11-02 Thread Wolfgang Schuster
2007/11/1, Thomas A. Schmitz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>
> Hi all,
>
> the attached test file shows a problem with nested \quotation and
> \quote commands: ConTeXt breaks the line after the first closing
> quote. There shouldn't be a line break there.
>
> Thanks!
>
> Thomas
>
> \definepapersize[test][width=7cm,height=3cm]
>
> \setuppapersize[test][test]
>
> \mainlanguage[en]



\unprotect

\unexpanded\def\dodelimitedtextpar
  {\dohandleleftdelimitedtext\c!left\relax
   \groupedcommand
 \donothing
 %{\dohandlerightdelimitedtext\c!right\removelastskip
 {\prewordbreak\dohandlerightdelimitedtext\c!right\removelastskip
  \popdelimitedtext}}

\protect

\starttext
>
> \quotation{He said, \quote{this demonstrates the problem with nested
> quotes.}}
>
> \stoptext


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Re: [NTG-context] \quotation

2007-11-02 Thread Wolfgang Schuster
2007/11/2, Wolfgang Schuster <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>
>
>
> 2007/11/1, Idris Samawi Hamid <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> >
> > Dear gang,
> >
> > This has bugged me for years but I never said anything since the
> > workaround is so easy. OTOH I am working on something I'd like to share
> > with others and an official solution would be better:
> >
> > \starttext
> > \input knuth
> > \startquotation
> > \input knuth
> > \stopquotation
> > \input knuth
> > \stoptext
> >
> > I. \start-\stopquotation surrounds the block quote in double-quotes
> > marks.
> > I don't know about other European languages but in English this is
> > redundant; I've hardly ever seen block quotes use dbl-quote marks.
> >
> > We at least need a setup option to turn this off.
> >
> > II. There should be some default whitespace between the block quote and
> > the surrounding text, just as \start-stopitemize has. Or at least this
> > should be configurable in the setups.
> >
> > If these two are already there (not in the manual) then please let us
> > know
> > how to set this up. Otherwise could you add configuration options for
> > this?
> >
> > FYI: Here is what I use
> >
> > ===
> > \definestartstop
> >[quote]
> >[before={\startnarrower[2*left,2*right]\blank[big]\noindenting},
> >  after={\stopnarrower\blank[big]}]
> > ===
> >
> > Best wishes
> > Idris
>
>
> Hi Idris,
>
> there is no perfect solution in ConTeXt because the \quotation and the
> \start/stopquotation commands are defined with the same definition and it
> is
> not possible to disable the quote marks for the one and enable it for the
> other,
> but you can use ConTeXt's mechanism for nested quotations and redefine the
> other one.
>
> \setupdelimitedtext
>   [quotation]
>   [1]
>   [left={\symbol[leftquotation]},
>right={\symbol[rightquotation]}]
>
> \setupdelimitedtext
>   [quotation]
>   [2]
>   [left={\symbol[leftquote]},
>right={\symbol[rightquote]}]
>
> \setupdelimitedtext
>   [quote]
>   [location=margin, % paragraph
>left=,
>right=,
>before={\blank[big]},
>after={\blank[big]}]
>

This can also be written as

\setupdelimitedtext
  [quote]
  [location=margin, % paragraph
   left=,
   right=,
   spacebefore=big,
   %spaceafter=big, % spaceafter is spacebefore by default
  ]

\starttext
>
> \input knuth
>
> \quotation{I'm a quoteted text \quotation{within another quoteted text}
> and back.}
>
> \startquote
> \input knuth
> \stopquote
>
> \input knuth
>
> \stoptext
>
> Wolfgang
>
>
>
>
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Re: [NTG-context] \quotation

2007-11-02 Thread Wolfgang Schuster
2007/11/1, Idris Samawi Hamid <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>
> Dear gang,
>
> This has bugged me for years but I never said anything since the
> workaround is so easy. OTOH I am working on something I'd like to share
> with others and an official solution would be better:
>
> \starttext
> \input knuth
> \startquotation
> \input knuth
> \stopquotation
> \input knuth
> \stoptext
>
> I. \start-\stopquotation surrounds the block quote in double-quotes marks.
> I don't know about other European languages but in English this is
> redundant; I've hardly ever seen block quotes use dbl-quote marks.
>
> We at least need a setup option to turn this off.
>
> II. There should be some default whitespace between the block quote and
> the surrounding text, just as \start-stopitemize has. Or at least this
> should be configurable in the setups.
>
> If these two are already there (not in the manual) then please let us know
> how to set this up. Otherwise could you add configuration options for
> this?
>
> FYI: Here is what I use
>
> ===
> \definestartstop
>[quote]
>[before={\startnarrower[2*left,2*right]\blank[big]\noindenting},
>  after={\stopnarrower\blank[big]}]
> ===
>
> Best wishes
> Idris


Hi Idris,

there is no perfect solution in ConTeXt because the \quotation and the
\start/stopquotation commands are defined with the same definition and it is
not possible to disable the quote marks for the one and enable it for the
other,
but you can use ConTeXt's mechanism for nested quotations and redefine the
other one.

\setupdelimitedtext
  [quotation]
  [1]
  [left={\symbol[leftquotation]},
   right={\symbol[rightquotation]}]

\setupdelimitedtext
  [quotation]
  [2]
  [left={\symbol[leftquote]},
   right={\symbol[rightquote]}]

\setupdelimitedtext
  [quote]
  [location=margin, % paragraph
   left=,
   right=,
   before={\blank[big]},
   after={\blank[big]}]

\starttext

\input knuth

\quotation{I'm a quoteted text \quotation{within another quoteted text} and
back.}

\startquote
\input knuth
\stopquote

\input knuth

\stoptext

Wolfgang
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Re: [NTG-context] Which ConTeXt editor do you use?

2007-11-02 Thread Piotr Kopszak
On Tue, Oct 30, 2007 at 07:14:54PM +, Horacio Suarez wrote:
> hello:
> 
> I?m using emacs + auctex.
> 
> Suerte.
> 
> 
> Horacio Suarez
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> www.eantropofagia.com.ar


Me, too. Never needed anything else than emacs + auctex + texshow. A
pity nobody tries to improve anything regarding ConTeXt in Emacs 
(for instance you cannot lookup a command in texshow and have it
included in your text with one key combination) but
still I think it's quite useful. 

All Best

Piotr



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Re: [NTG-context] +1 ConTeXt noobie/user

2007-11-02 Thread luigi scarso
On 11/1/07, Matija Šuklje <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> OK, so far I've been reluctant, but from what I saw so far, I think you can
> call me a new ConTeXt user or more accurately a noobie.
>
> I think I figured out how to tweak Kile into being usable (not perfect yet
> though) as a ConTeXt editor ...kudos to the devs who put so many options to
> tweak into Kile and to Michael Krauss for the Kate highlighting to make this
> possible.

Can you write something about kile at
http://wiki.contextgarden.net/Text_editor
?
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Re: [NTG-context] MathML in Metafun

2007-11-02 Thread Mojca Miklavec
On 11/1/07, Maurí­cio wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Is it possible to use MathML inside
> a Metapost or Metafun label?

I'm not 100% sure, but \sometxt{... your ConTeXt stuff with mathml
here ...} could work.
Or, I could imagine that you should be able to defne some commant, so that
\sometxt[mathml]{<..>mathml stuff} could work out of the box.

See
http://dl.contextgarden.net/myway/sometxt.pdf

However, I have never played with mathml, so you should try it out and
report if there will be any problems.

Mojca
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Re: [NTG-context] Success Story - II

2007-11-02 Thread luigi scarso
Thanks to Vyatcheslav Yatskovsky , examples are now at

http://wiki.contextgarden.net/User:Luigi.scarso#Luatex_examples

(more examples are welcome,of course)
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Re: [NTG-context] Fatal format file error; I'm stymied

2007-11-02 Thread Hans Hagen
Ernesto Schirmacher wrote:
> After many years as a LaTeX user I'm attempting to switch over to ConTeXt.  
> 
> I recently upgraded my operating system to Ubuntu 7.10 (on an AMD64 machine) 
> and got the TeXLive and ConTeXt packages from the Ubuntu repositories.  I 
> tried compiling a very simple document:
> 
> \starttext
> 
> Hello this is \ConTeXt.
> 
> \stoptext
> 
> using the command: texexec simple.tex and got the following output on my 
> terminal:
> 
> TeXExec | processing document 'simple.tex'
> TeXExec | no ctx file found
> TeXExec | tex processing method: context
> TeXExec | TeX run 1
> TeXExec | writing option file simple.top
> TeXExec | using randomseed 898
> TeXExec | tex engine: pdftex
> TeXExec | tex format: cont-en
> This is pdfTeXk, Version 3.141592-1.40.3 (Web2C 7.5.6)
> %$-line parsing enabled.
> (/usr/share/texmf/web2c/natural.tcx)
> ---! cont-en.fmt was written by pdfetex
> (Fatal format file error; I'm stymied)
> TeXExec | runtime: 0.177424
> 
> 
> Clearly something is not working properly and I suspect the incompatibility 
> between 
>This is pdfTeXk...
> and
>---! cont-en.fmt was written by pdfetex 
> is the source of all trouble here.
> 
> Could someone please point me in the right direction to resolve this?

pdfetex is obsolete now; there should only be a pdftex binary

since ubunto is based on debian i assume that they use the same 
packages, so i cc to norbert

Hans

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Re: [NTG-context] Fatal format file error; I'm stymied

2007-11-02 Thread luigi scarso
On 11/2/07, Ernesto Schirmacher <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> using the command: texexec simple.tex and got the following output on my 
> >terminal:
hmm,try
texexec --pdf simple.tex

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