Re: [NTG-context] Keeping up-to-date under TeXLive
On Dec 23, 2007 4:47 AM, Joel C. Salomon wrote: On Dec 21, 2007 9:17 PM, Aditya Mahajan wrote: Create $HOME/texmf. Download justtex.zip, and cont-tmf.zip, cont-fnt.zip from pragma's website, and unzip them inside $HOME/texmf. Download the font files from TeX Gyre and unzip then in $HOME/texmf. Do I need to set the TEXMFHOME environment variable? It depends on the installation. But TEXMFHOME is usually already set in texmf.cnf. Also: will downloading linuxtex.zip to the same place give me up-to-date luatex, or will it just mess up my installation? linuxtex.zip at pragma is from August, so you won't get the latest luatex with it. linuxtex at http://minimals.contextgarden.net/pragma/ has the latest luatex beta (+ reasonably latest other binaries and latest LM, TeX Gyre, ...), but might differ from the one at pragma. (I need feedback.) Remake the formats, move the stubs and few programs to the path, and you are done. Is there a command to remake the pdftex and xetex formats together? Not at the moment. texexec -- make --all texexec -- make --all --xtx texexec -- make --all --lua Rather than moving programs, might it be easier to add ~/texmf/whatever/bin to the PATH? That's what setuptex in minimals does. Yes, if you're updating an exesting distribution, it might be easier and cleaner to add a variable to path than to overwrite the old binaries. The only drawback of this is that you have to update manually. ctxtools --updatecontext unzip the file in TEXMFLOCAL, and not TEXMFHOME, so it does not work with this setup. Hmm... will the rsync update work, or do I need to download the zips? Of course it works. You have two options: a) rsync -flags rsync://contextgarden.net/minimals/pragma/linux/ [your-favorite location] will give you the almost-latest binaries in one rsync run (there is also justtex for the common files). b) wget http://minimals.contextgarden.net/setup/linux/first-setup.sh or (same file): rsync -flags rsync://contextgarden.net/minimals/setup/linux/first-setup.sh and then run that file to get the whole distribution at the desired location. (experimental - someone needs to write support for local configuration) flags may be -av or whatever else seems more appropriate. Also, if you already have a working TeX distribution, you can write a few rsync calls yourself. At http://minimals.contextgarden.net/current/ (= rsync://minimals.contextgarden.net/minimals/current/) you have: - current ConTeXt - almost-latest binaries - fonts any you can combine the stuff from there in some arbitrary way. Mojca ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
[NTG-context] preview-context
Hi! I've asked on auctex ml about the prospects of getting preview-context, similar to preview-latex and here is the reply: There are no ConTeXt users among the active developers (actually, there is not even much activity in the LaTeX area, but the status quo is rather more advanced). As long as that does not change, I don't see much of a point to talk vapour. (see http://article.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.auctex.general/2387) Since I plan to move to ConTeXt using AUCTeX, I'm interested to hear if there is some interest here (amongst emacs users) to have preview-context withing AUCTeX package? otoh, I'm interested if there is newer version of etexshow (Browser for ConTeXt commands) ? Sincerely, Gour signature.asc Description: PGP signature ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Setting up a project
On Sat, 22 Dec 2007 19:30:13 -0500 Joel C. Salomon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Dec 21, 2007 4:08 PM, Wolfgang Schuster [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: textwidth=288pt, textheight=432pt, replace these two lines with width=288pt and height=432pt don't use textwidth and textheight in \setuplayout. Actually, width=288pt, textheight=432pt, gives me exactly the result I wanted. I'd just like to be able to set the distance between the top of the paper and the top of the text area directly, as in header=12pt, headerdistance=12pt, something=72pt rather than what I'm currently using: header=12pt, headerdistance=12pt, topspace=48pt, % 48 = 72 - (12+12) Is this possible, and what is the something's name? leftmargindistance is only the distance between the textarea and the left box for the left margin, the layout concept could be a little bit confusing. Ya think maybe? ;) Thanks for the help, --Joel \setuplayout [marking=on, location=middle, width=288pt, height=432pt, header=12pt, headerdistance=12pt, topspace=\dimexpr72pt-\headerheight-\headerdistance\relax, footer=\headerheight, footerdistance=\headerdistance, %bottomspace=144pt, % calculated by ConTeXt leftmargindistance=12pt, leftmargin=24pt, backspace=48pt, rightmargindistance=\leftmargindistance, rightmargin=\leftmarginwidth] You should also avoid to use set the headerdistance, the textheight and the bottomdistances at the same time, try to set only two dimension and let TeX calculate the third dimension itself. Wolfgang ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] migrating to ConTeXt
On Sat, 22 Dec 2007 22:11:49 +0100 Gour [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sat, 22 Dec 2007 21:09:49 +0100 Mojca Miklavec [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: (We'll drop that letter from our keyboards soon :) Oh, then I'll stay with friendly lyx/latex... What does lyx have to do with đ and the (Slovenian) keyboard? Ahh, I understood you will start a party to remove support for 'đ' from ConTeXt as well :-) \catcode`đ=13 \letđ\relax \starttext dđ \stoptext Most problems have been resolved about two years ago. But it's true - đ didn't work for at least half a dozen of different reasons :) ok, ok...I'm 50% sold-out to move to ConTeXt ;) You should use XeTeX or LuaTeX and you're free from any problem because đ is now a normal letter as any other character and you could use all letters in label texts without problems. 2002? That must be somewhere aroud the bronze age for ConTeXt :-) Now is golden age? Well ... I would say ... you need to start somewhere and once you stumble upon something you don't know how to convert, ask on the list. Sure. I'll soon start posting when attempting to mimic some LaTeX behaviour. You should better use ConTeXt style and try to avoid LaTeX method, \quote and \quotation and not ` ... That's a taboo, that's why your original question has been removed :) Heh, that's why I felt some bad-smell...well, maybe I'm more persistent this time and/or someone is bold enough to speak about taboos :-) The ConTeXt manual, very difficult topic. All of us want it, nobody is able or motivated enough to write, we have a few experts for every topic (mathematics, fonts etc.) but none who who has knowledge about the whole system and too mayn features are hidden and only documented in the source. Wolfgang ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] MKIV and XML documentation
Just trying to keep this on the radar ... ;0) Merry Chrismas! Joh Hans Hagen wrote: Wolfgang Schuster wrote: Looks like ConTeXt is not able to open zip files in xml mode, you should Hans for this feature. i probably have to call a different function (locator); i'll have a look at it (not today, no time) Hans - Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | fax: 038 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com | www.pragma-pod.nl - ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___ ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] preview-context
Gour [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Since I plan to move to ConTeXt using AUCTeX, I'm interested to hear if there is some interest here (amongst emacs users) to have preview-context withing AUCTeX package? I'm interested in improved Context support in Auctex in general. I am a recent convert to Context, using it for my first project at the moment. I find much of the discussion on this list to be over my head still. I have a very little experence programming emacs lisp but have not practised it for 3 or 4 years. Currently I have implemented one or two things I wanted in the form of (not very good!) emacs skeletons. I'll help as much as I can, even if only with testing. otoh, I'm interested if there is newer version of etexshow (Browser for ConTeXt commands) ? Have you seen http://texshow.contextgarden.net/ ? I don't know how up to date it is. Cheers, Roger ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] preview-context
Hi Gour, I'm the guy who created etexshow. otoh, I'm interested if there is newer version of etexshow (Browser for ConTeXt commands) ? No there is not. I don't use emacs any more (for ConTeXt). I will take a look at texshow.contextgarden.net in the first quarter of 2008; perhaps I'll have a look at etexshow at the same time. And if you are interested in AUCTeX development, don't hesitate. elisp is not that hard and very, very interesting to program in. A lot of people will be greatful! Patrick -- ConTeXt wiki and more: http://contextgarden.net ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] preview-context
Le 23 décembre à 12:48:39 Gour [EMAIL PROTECTED] écrit notamment: | Since I plan to move to ConTeXt using AUCTeX, I'm interested to hear if | there is some interest here (amongst emacs users) to have preview-context | withing AUCTeX package? Well, I certainly am interested! -- Jean ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] page numbers in Table of Contents, mismatch
On Wed, 19 Dec 2007 02:06:12 +0900 Saji N Hameed [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dear ConText gurus, I am faced with a new problem with the page numbering in the Table of Contents. In the appendices, I use: \setuppagenumbering [way=bychapter, chapternumber=yes, numberseparator=-] to get page numbers like A-15, B-24 ... etc However, the page numbers associated with Appendix 1 in the Table of Contents is like 1 Introduction 11 1.1 Goals of Research 11 1.2 Necessity of Research 11 A Real-time Monitoring of Intraseasonal Variations 15 B Drought Monitoring Based on Standardized Precipitation Index 24 I am wondering if there is a way to get ConText to write my TOC as: A Real-time Monitoring of Intraseasonal Variations A-15 B Drought Monitoring Based on Standardized Precipitation Index B-24 My document is structured as follows: \input layout \starttext \startfrontmatter \input HomePage \stopfrontmatter \placelist[chapter,section] \startbodymatter \input Chapter1 \input Chapter2 \stopbodymatter \startappendices \input Appendix1 \input Appendix2 \stopappendices \stoptext Thanks as always, saji Please send next time a working example. \usemodule[visual] \def\doMyCommand#1--#2-#3-#4--#5]\relax{{\convertnumber{A}{#3}-#5}} \def\MyCommand#1{\expandafter\doMyCommand#1\relax} \startsectionblockenvironment[appendix] \setuppagenumbering [way=bychapter, chapternumber=yes, numberseparator=-] %\setuplist[section][state=stop] \writebetweenlist[chapter]{\setuplist[chapter] [chapternumber=yes,pagecommand=\MyCommand]} \stopsectionblockenvironment \starttext \startfrontmatter \completecontent \stopfrontmatter \startbodymatter \dorecurse{4} {\chapter{\fakewords{5}{10}} \dorecurse{4} {\section{\fakewords{5}{10}} \dorecurse{2}{\fakewords{100}{150}\par}}} \stopbodymatter \startappendices \dorecurse{4} {\chapter{\fakewords{5}{10}} \dorecurse{4} {\section{\fakewords{5}{10}} \dorecurse{3}{\fakewords{40}{80 \stopappendices \stoptext This is the best solution I found, it is a little bit ugly (llok at the ] in \doMyCommand) but the only working solution. Merry Christmas. Wolfgang ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
[NTG-context] luatex and context for Debian
Dear all, I have updated luatex and context so currently I can even run MkIV documents ;-) Debian/sid users should have them already. Debian/etch users should get luatex 0.20.2-1 from deb http://people.debian.org/~preining/TeX/ luatex/ deb-src http://people.debian.org/~preining/TeX/ luatex/ Currently I have only i386 packages, but will build amd64 for etch soon. And maybe powerpc builds can be organized. For context 2007.12.18-1 please add deb http://people.debian.org/~preining/TeX/ context/ deb-src http://people.debian.org/~preining/TeX/ context/ Just for completeness, it is good to have: texlive: deb http://people.debian.org/~preining/TeX/ tl2007/ deb-src http://people.debian.org/~preining/TeX/ src/ latin modern: deb http://people.debian.org/~preining/TeX/ lmodern/ deb-src http://people.debian.org/~preining/TeX/ lmodern/ For Ubuntu users of the development version (i.e., that tracking sid more or less) luatex can be found at deb http://people.debian.org/~preining/TeX/ luatex-sid/ deb-src http://people.debian.org/~preining/TeX/ luatex-sid/ Please comment if you find something missing. Norbert --- Dr. Norbert Preining [EMAIL PROTECTED]Vienna University of Technology Debian Developer [EMAIL PROTECTED] Debian TeX Group gpg DSA: 0x09C5B094 fp: 14DF 2E6C 0307 BE6D AD76 A9C0 D2BF 4AA3 09C5 B094 --- HASSOP (n.) The pocket down the back of an armchair used for storing two-shilling bits and pieces of Lego. --- Douglas Adams, The Meaning of Liff ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Chemistry in lists
On Dec 22, 2007 9:10 AM, Shen Chen wrote: Hi all, I have some chemical formulae in chapter heading and figure captions, typeset with the chemic module. The chemic module always uses roman font as desired. When I include them in table of contents and list of figures, the chemical formulae appears in math italic font instead of roman font. See the following code for example. Chemic Manual mentioned using \rm but it doesn't seem to be the case. $\rm H_2O$ works fine in the list, but not \chemical{H_2O}. Any suggestions? Thank you. \usemodule[chemic] \starttext \writetolist[chapter]{}{ABC} \writetolist[chapter]{}{$H_2O$} \writetolist[chapter]{}{$\rm H_2O$} \writetolist[chapter]{}{\chemical{H_2O}} \completecontent \stoptext The code is too complex for me to be able to understand what's going on (but it seems like a problem which should be fixed, I agree). I'm using an ugly piece of code from the wiki instead of the module http://wiki.contextgarden.net/Chemistry (bottom of the page) when I need to typeset simple chemistry. I also needed a formula to apear in titiles and it worked really nice. Mojca % by Taco \newbox\chemlowbox \def\chemlow#1% {\setbox\chemlowbox\hbox{{\switchtobodyfont[small]#1}}} \def\chemhigh#1% {\ifvoid\chemlowbox \high{{\switchtobodyfont[small]#1}}% \else \/\lohi{\box\chemlowbox}{{\switchtobodyfont[small]#1}}\fi } \def\finishchem% {\ifvoid\chemlowbox \else \iffluor \fluorfalse \kern-.1em \fi\low{\box\chemlowbox}\fi} % for kerning after F \newif\iffluor \unexpanded\def\molecule% {\bgroup \catcode`\_=\active \uccode`\~=`\_ \uppercase{\let~\chemlow}% \catcode`\^=\active \uccode`\~=`\^ \uppercase{\let~\chemhigh}% \dostepwiserecurse {65}{90}{1} {\catcode \recurselevel = \active \uccode`\~=\recurselevel \uppercase{\edef~{\noexpand\finishchem \rawcharacter{\recurselevel% \uccode `\~=`\F \uppercase{\def~{\finishchem F\fluortrue}}% \catcode`\-=\active \uccode`\~=`\- \uppercase{\def~{--}}% \loggingall \domolecule }% \def\domolecule#1% {\expandafter\scantokens\expandafter {\detokenize{#1\finishchem}}\egroup} \molecule{H_2O} ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] preview-context
On Sun, 23 Dec 2007, Hans Hagen wrote: Gour wrote: Hi! I've asked on auctex ml about the prospects of getting preview-context, similar to preview-latex and here is the reply: There are no ConTeXt users among the active developers (actually, there is not even much activity in the LaTeX area, but the status quo is rather more advanced). As long as that does not change, I don't see much of a point to talk vapour. (see http://article.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.auctex.general/2387) Since I plan to move to ConTeXt using AUCTeX, I'm interested to hear if there is some interest here (amongst emacs users) to have preview-context withing AUCTeX package? otoh, I'm interested if there is newer version of etexshow (Browser for ConTeXt commands) ? in my opinion previewing contradicts symbolic markup (apart maybe from special subconstructs); anyhow, because context sometimes relies on multipass info, previewing is no option unless on fast machines I disagree. I was grately impressed by preview-latex when I tried it (around 2 years ago), so much so that I even considered moving to emacs from vim. It is extremely useful for mathematics and images: you can see the typeset result rather than a bunch of code. This means that you can proofread in the editor rather than a pdf (or dvi) reader. What is needed for an improved support of preview-latex in context? Last time I looked into preview.sty, I could not understand how it works. If I were to do the same thing, this is how I would do it. Run context with a custom module, which writes the content of each \startformula formula \stopformula into a temporary file as \startTEXpage \startformula formula \stopformula \stopTEXpage. Lilypond and gnuplot modules already do something similar. Then process the temporary tex file. You will get a pdf file with one formula on each page. Convert each page into png, and use some lisp magic to insert the image at appropriate places in the buffer. Obviously I am missing a lot of things. But, am I correct in assuming that from the context end, the problem is simple? Aditya ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Chemistry in lists
Thanks for the suggestion, Taco's \molecule macro works. There is a similar problem for Units (with \usemodule[units]) that appears in headings, table of contents and list of figure captions, etc. Sample code: \usemodule[units] \starttext \placecontent \section{1 \Square\Centi\Meter} Hello world! 1 \Square\Centi\Meter \section{$1\Square\Centi\Meter$} Hello world! $1\Square\Centi\Meter$ \section{$1 {\rm cm^2}$} Hello world! $1 {\rm cm^2}$ \stoptext Units appear normally in text. But only the primary dimension m appeared in heading/list, while power/prefix are lost. In this case, I was able to trace down in the source code a little bit. In core-syn.tex, there is: \setupsynonyms [\v!unit] [\c!textstyle=\dimension] And \dimension is supposed to be invoked here: \def\processsynonym#1#2#3% {\begingroup % anders in mathmode lege \hbox, zie eenheden \ifsynonymmeaning \synonymmeaningfalse \doattributes{\??sm#1}\c!synonymstyle\c!synonymcolor{#3}% \else \explicithmode \doattributes{\??sm#1}\c!textstyle\c!textcolor{#2}% \fi \endgroup} However, in the case of heading/lists, \dimension is not called. I don't understand the part about \doattributes, and couldn't trace further. Thank you. Regards, shenchen On 12/24/07 7:06 AM, Mojca Miklavec [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The code is too complex for me to be able to understand what's going on (but it seems like a problem which should be fixed, I agree). I'm using an ugly piece of code from the wiki instead of the module http://wiki.contextgarden.net/Chemistry (bottom of the page) when I need to typeset simple chemistry. I also needed a formula to apear in titiles and it worked really nice. Mojca ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] migrating to ConTeXt
On Sun, 23 Dec 2007 13:57:03 +0100 Wolfgang Schuster [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You should use XeTeX or LuaTeX and you're free from any problem because đ is now a normal letter as any other character and you could use all letters in label texts without problems. Good. I plan to use LuaTeX if it is capable to typeset what I need. Sincerely, Gour ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] migrating to ConTeXt
On Sun, 23 Dec 2007 08:39:56 -0700 Idris Samawi Hamid [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Which is why we need a team :-) Right. This sounds as reasonable proposal - let every expert writes his/her part. Anyway, as soon as luatex/mkiv is relatively stable, the hyperbola is still a bit too far from the asymptote at the moment... Hmm, isn't luatex already quite stable? Sincerely, Gour ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] preview-context
On Sun, 23 Dec 2007 09:16:04 -0330 Roger Mason [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm interested in improved Context support in Auctex in general. I am a recent convert to Context, using it for my first project at the moment. I find much of the discussion on this list to be over my head still. I was playing with ConTeXt some years ago, so now I can be called an recent re-convert :-) I have a very little experence programming emacs lisp but have not practised it for 3 or 4 years. Currently I have implemented one or two things I wanted in the form of (not very good!) emacs skeletons. I'll help as much as I can, even if only with testing. Being quite new with emacs itself, I've taken a brief look at elisp-intro manual...will go more deeply and I'm ready to help. Sincerely, Gour ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___