Re: [NTG-context] Bitstream Charter vs. Charis SIL

2008-06-09 Thread Wolfgang Schuster
On Sat, Jun 7, 2008 at 11:34 AM, Mojca Miklavec [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: (/home/diego/tex/texmf-context/tex/context/base/type-xtx.tex) ! Font \*map7ptrmscss*:=CharterBT-SmallCap at 6.64998pt not loadable: Metric (TFM) file or installed font not found. That's because of \definefontsynonym

Re: [NTG-context] Bitstream Charter vs. Charis SIL

2008-06-09 Thread Taco Hoekwater
Wolfgang Schuster wrote: There is no difference, the same fonts are loaded, I tried this a month ago. Now that I'm looking at it again at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bitstream_Charter: This has resulted in derivatives of Bitstream Charter becoming available, including Charis SIL.

Re: [NTG-context] Bitstream Charter vs. Charis SIL

2008-06-09 Thread Wolfgang Schuster
On Mon, Jun 9, 2008 at 9:04 AM, Taco Hoekwater [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Wolfgang Schuster wrote: There is no difference, the same fonts are loaded, I tried this a month ago. Now that I'm looking at it again at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bitstream_Charter: This has resulted in

Re: [NTG-context] fontscript for delicious?

2008-06-09 Thread Wolfgang Schuster
On Mon, Jun 9, 2008 at 3:06 AM, Uwe Koloska [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello, does someone have a typescript (or what's now needed) for using the wonderful delicious font with context? I used it myself for the examples in my letter manual. http://www.josbuivenga.demon.nl/delicious.html

Re: [NTG-context] Bitstream Charter vs. Charis SIL

2008-06-09 Thread Hans Hagen
Wolfgang Schuster wrote: \definefontsynonym [Charter-Roman-Caps] [name:CharterBT-SmallCap] % or: [bchrc8a] The last line should be removed, the Charter font on ctan has no smallcaps and the style is only commercial available ok, remapped Hans - what would be the implications for

Re: [NTG-context] Bitstream Charter vs. Charis SIL

2008-06-09 Thread Mojca Miklavec
On Mon, Jun 9, 2008 at 10:04 AM, Hans Hagen wrote: Wolfgang Schuster wrote: \definefontsynonym [Charter-Roman-Caps] [name:CharterBT-SmallCap] % or: [bchrc8a] The last line should be removed, the Charter font on ctan has no smallcaps and the style is only commercial available ok,

[NTG-context] How to make caption for nature table?

2008-06-09 Thread Zhaopeng Xing
Hi, I have a multi-page nature table and tried to give a caption by \placetable[here][tab:sample]{sample table}{ A nature table here } But it will run wrong. It seems multipage stuff can not be float. Is there any suggestion? Thanks. -- Zhaopeng XING Tinbergen Institute

Re: [NTG-context] Bitstream Charter vs. Charis SIL

2008-06-09 Thread Hans Hagen
Mojca Miklavec wrote: On Mon, Jun 9, 2008 at 10:04 AM, Hans Hagen wrote: Wolfgang Schuster wrote: \definefontsynonym [Charter-Roman-Caps] [name:CharterBT-SmallCap] % or: [bchrc8a] The last line should be removed, the Charter font on ctan has no smallcaps and the style is only commercial

Re: [NTG-context] Arabic with LuaTeX vs. XeTeX

2008-06-09 Thread Wolfgang Schuster
2008/6/9 Otared Kavian [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Dear all, I just read the thread started by Burak Emir about Typesetting Arabic today, and tried to typeset the sample sent by Idris Samawi Hamid. One of the Arabic or Persian fonts that I have and LuaTeX can find is Nadeem (working on Mac OS X

[NTG-context] fix of Kurier typefaces

2008-06-09 Thread Vit Zyka
Hi, there is a miscorrespondence between names of Kurier fonts (in type-one.tex and type-syn.tex) - missing 'Regular' or '-'. I propose to fix type-syn.tex as follows. Vit --- \starttypescript [sans] [kurier-light] [name]

Re: [NTG-context] How to make caption for nature table?

2008-06-09 Thread Wolfgang Schuster
On Mon, Jun 9, 2008 at 10:05 AM, Zhaopeng Xing [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, I have a multi-page nature table and tried to give a caption by \placetable[here][tab:sample]{sample table}{ A nature table here } But it will run wrong. It seems multipage stuff can not be float. Is there any

Re: [NTG-context] How to make caption for nature table?

2008-06-09 Thread Zhaopeng Xing
Thanks. It works well. 2008/6/9 Wolfgang Schuster [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Mon, Jun 9, 2008 at 10:05 AM, Zhaopeng Xing [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, I have a multi-page nature table and tried to give a caption by \placetable[here][tab:sample]{sample table}{ A nature table here } But it will

Re: [NTG-context] fontscript for delicious?

2008-06-09 Thread Uwe Koloska
Hello, Am Montag, 9. Juni 2008 schrieb Wolfgang Schuster: On Mon, Jun 9, 2008 at 3:06 AM, Uwe Koloska [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: does someone have a typescript (or what's now needed) for using the wonderful delicious font with context? I used it myself for the examples in my letter manual.

[NTG-context] Arabic with LuaTeX vs. XeTeX

2008-06-09 Thread Otared Kavian
Dear all, I just read the thread started by Burak Emir about Typesetting Arabic today, and tried to typeset the sample sent by Idris Samawi Hamid. One of the Arabic or Persian fonts that I have and LuaTeX can find is Nadeem (working on Mac OS X 10.5.3), but what I get after typesetting is

Re: [NTG-context] Arabic with LuaTeX vs. XeTeX

2008-06-09 Thread Otared Kavian
On 9 juin 08, at 11:23, Wolfgang Schuster wrote: […] What happens with the following setups from Idris. \definefontfeature [test] [mode=node,language=dflt,script=arab, init=yes,medi=yes,fina=yes,isol=yes, liga=yes,dlig=yes,rlig=yes,clig=yes,

Re: [NTG-context] Arabic with LuaTeX vs. XeTeX

2008-06-09 Thread Khaled Hosny
On Mon, Jun 09, 2008 at 11:13:06AM +0200, Otared Kavian wrote: Dear all, I just read the thread started by Burak Emir about Typesetting Arabic today, and tried to typeset the sample sent by Idris Samawi Hamid. One of the Arabic or Persian fonts that I have and LuaTeX can find is Nadeem

Re: [NTG-context] Arabic with LuaTeX vs. XeTeX

2008-06-09 Thread Wolfgang Schuster
2008/6/9 Khaled Hosny [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Mon, Jun 09, 2008 at 11:13:06AM +0200, Otared Kavian wrote: Dear all, I just read the thread started by Burak Emir about Typesetting Arabic today, and tried to typeset the sample sent by Idris Samawi Hamid. One of the Arabic or Persian fonts that I

Re: [NTG-context] fontscript for delicious?

2008-06-09 Thread Wolfgang Schuster
On Mon, Jun 9, 2008 at 11:03 AM, Uwe Koloska [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello, Am Montag, 9. Juni 2008 schrieb Wolfgang Schuster: On Mon, Jun 9, 2008 at 3:06 AM, Uwe Koloska [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: does someone have a typescript (or what's now needed) for using the wonderful delicious font

Re: [NTG-context] How to make caption for any table?

2008-06-09 Thread Jan-Erik Hägglöf
mån 2008-06-09 klockan 11:12 +0200 skrev Wolfgang Schuster: On Mon, Jun 9, 2008 at 10:05 AM, Zhaopeng Xing [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, I have a multi-page nature table and tried to give a caption by \placetable[here][tab:sample]{sample table}{ A nature table here } But it will

Re: [NTG-context] Rendering of ZWNJ and ZWJ

2008-06-09 Thread Hans Hagen
Khaled Hosny wrote: Using Luatex engine, ZWNJ and ZWJ chars are rendered incorrectly. If the font has a glyph for it, it does the expected behaviour (force non-joining or joining respectively) but the glyph get rendered while it shouldn't. But if the font has no glyphs for it, it has no effect

Re: [NTG-context] How to make caption for any table?

2008-06-09 Thread Wolfgang Schuster
A following question is how to make caption work at all with arbitrary table set, especially with the database module. I tested with this but with no caption at output. % engine=luatex \mainlanguage[sv] \usemodule[database] \defineseparatedlist [MyTable] [separator=tab,

Re: [NTG-context] Howto fit text into a box

2008-06-09 Thread Wolfgang Schuster
On Mon, Jun 9, 2008 at 3:06 AM, Uwe Koloska [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello, for a CD-Cover I have to fit a given text into a fixed box. I have tried to achieve this with the help of mag-0010 Good looking shapes but was not successful :-( Can you help me with this? The conditions: - the

Re: [NTG-context] Luatex (actually Aleph) and Bidi_Mirrored chars in RTL mode

2008-06-09 Thread Arthur Reutenauer
Hello, Is this a bug, feature, or am I missing some thing? You're not missing anything, it's kind of a misfeature because the Bidi_Mirrored property is not taken in account by ConTeXt (yet). Happily enough, it's one of the things I'm sponsored by

Re: [NTG-context] Arabic with LuaTeX vs. XeTeX

2008-06-09 Thread Idris Samawi Hamid
Dear Otared, Salaam On Mon, 09 Jun 2008 03:13:06 -0600, Otared Kavian [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dear all, I just read the thread started by Burak Emir about Typesetting Arabic today, and tried to typeset the sample sent by Idris Samawi Hamid. One of the Arabic or Persian fonts that I have

Re: [NTG-context] Arabic with LuaTeX vs. XeTeX

2008-06-09 Thread Burak Emir
On Mon, Jun 9, 2008 at 1:38 PM, Otared Kavian [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Wolfgang, Thank you for your attention. However this is exactly what I did. \font\TradArabic = Nadeem*testat 18pt Hi Otared, I also tried with Nadeem, and I had exactly the same problem. Can you try

Re: [NTG-context] Arabic with LuaTeX vs. XeTeX

2008-06-09 Thread Otared Kavian
On 9 juin 08, at 17:09, Burak Emir wrote: […] Hi Otared, I also tried with Nadeem, and I had exactly the same problem. Hi Burak, Thank you for testing that font. As a matter of fact I am not especially attracted to that font, but for some reason, unknwon to me, it is the only one (in

Re: [NTG-context] Rendering of ZWNJ and ZWJ

2008-06-09 Thread Hans Hagen
Khaled Hosny wrote: Using Luatex engine, ZWNJ and ZWJ chars are rendered incorrectly. If the font has a glyph for it, it does the expected behaviour (force non-joining or joining respectively) but the glyph get rendered while it shouldn't. But if the font has no glyphs for it, it has no effect

Re: [NTG-context] Arabic with LuaTeX vs. XeTeX

2008-06-09 Thread Otared Kavian
On 9 juin 08, at 18:07, Hans Hagen wrote: Otared Kavian wrote: Indeed… it so simple! But how should one let LuaTeX know about those fonts? set the OSFONTDIR environment variable Many thanks Hans: indeed that's what I did export OSFONTDIR=Library/Fonts export

Re: [NTG-context] Luatex (actually Aleph) and Bidi_Mirrored chars in RTL mode

2008-06-09 Thread Khaled Hosny
On Mon, Jun 09, 2008 at 05:20:23PM +0200, Hans Hagen wrote: Arthur Reutenauer wrote: Hello, Is this a bug, feature, or am I missing some thing? You're not missing anything, it's kind of a misfeature because the Bidi_Mirrored property is not

Re: [NTG-context] Arabic with LuaTeX vs. XeTeX

2008-06-09 Thread Burak Emir
On Mon, Jun 9, 2008 at 6:43 PM, Otared Kavian [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 9 juin 08, at 18:07, Hans Hagen wrote: Otared Kavian wrote: Indeed… it so simple! But how should one let LuaTeX know about those fonts? set the OSFONTDIR environment variable Many thanks Hans: indeed that's

Re: [NTG-context] Rendering of ZWNJ and ZWJ

2008-06-09 Thread Khaled Hosny
On Mon, Jun 09, 2008 at 05:45:10PM +0200, Hans Hagen wrote: Khaled Hosny wrote: Using Luatex engine, ZWNJ and ZWJ chars are rendered incorrectly. If the font has a glyph for it, it does the expected behaviour (force non-joining or joining respectively) but the glyph get rendered while it

Re: [NTG-context] Arabic with LuaTeX vs. XeTeX

2008-06-09 Thread Mojca Miklavec
On Mon, Jun 9, 2008 at 6:43 PM, Otared Kavian wrote: On 9 juin 08, at 18:07, Hans Hagen wrote: Otared Kavian wrote: Indeed… it so simple! But how should one let LuaTeX know about those fonts? set the OSFONTDIR environment variable Many thanks Hans: indeed that's what I did

[NTG-context] How to implement this document's navigational system ?

2008-06-09 Thread Alan Stone
Hi, Having discovered LaTeX a few weeks ago, I'm considering switching to ConTeXt instead. :O) Hence, while playing with ConTeXt, I'd like to know... How to implement this type of document navigational system/panel: http://www.pragma-ade.com/general/manuals/cont-eni.pdf ? Thanks, Alan

Re: [NTG-context] clipping bug [or the return of the long cat]

2008-06-09 Thread Peter Rolf
* PUSH * still not fixed. Peter Rolf schrieb: hi, this time fully 'context live' approved, only with natural ingredients and even more tasty. yummy yum :D % engine=luatex \starttext \definelayer[stack] \setlayer[stack][x=0pt,y=0pt]{%

Re: [NTG-context] Arabic with LuaTeX vs. XeTeX

2008-06-09 Thread Otared Kavian
On 9 juin 08, at 18:53, Mojca Miklavec wrote: […] You need to use export OSFONTDIR=/Library/Fonts;/System/Library/Fonts;~/Library/ Fonts Not sure if LuaTeX handles the tilde; in case it doesn't, put the whole path there. Mojca Hi Mojca and all, As a matter of fact here is what I

Re: [NTG-context] Luatex (actually Aleph) and Bidi_Mirrored chars in RTL mode

2008-06-09 Thread Hans Hagen
Khaled Hosny wrote: Luatex does not mirror characters that has a Bidi_Mirrored property when the text direction is set to RTL (TRT in Aleph), according to http://unicode.org/reports/tr9/#Mirroring, the different types of parenthesis that has Bidi_Mirrored property should be mirreored in RTL

Re: [NTG-context] Arabic with LuaTeX vs. XeTeX

2008-06-09 Thread Hans Hagen
Otared Kavian wrote: On 9 juin 08, at 18:53, Mojca Miklavec wrote: […] You need to use export OSFONTDIR=/Library/Fonts;/System/Library/Fonts;~/Library/ Fonts Not sure if LuaTeX handles the tilde; in case it doesn't, put the whole path there. Mojca Hi Mojca and all, As a

Re: [NTG-context] Arabic with LuaTeX vs. XeTeX

2008-06-09 Thread Oliver Buerschaper
You need to use export OSFONTDIR=/Library/Fonts;/System/Library/Fonts;~/Library/ Fonts Actually, I think the order of the directories should be slightly different ... if LuaTeX wants to blend in nicely with the Mac file system domains it should search for the fonts in the following

Re: [NTG-context] clipping bug [or the return of the long cat]

2008-06-09 Thread Hans Hagen
Peter Rolf wrote: * PUSH * still not fixed. meta-ini.mkiv \def\grabMPclippath#1#2#3#4#5% {\blabelgroup \edef\width {#3\space}\let\overlaywidth \width \edef\height{#4\space}\let\overlayheight\height \doifdefinedelse{MPC:#1} {\xdef\MPclippath{\getvalue{MPC:#1}}%

Re: [NTG-context] fix of Kurier typefaces

2008-06-09 Thread Hans Hagen
Vit Zyka wrote: Hi, there is a miscorrespondence between names of Kurier fonts (in type-one.tex and type-syn.tex) - missing 'Regular' or '-'. I propose to fix type-syn.tex as follows. Vit --- \starttypescript [sans] [kurier-light] [name]

Re: [NTG-context] Rendering of ZWNJ and ZWJ

2008-06-09 Thread Idris Samawi Hamid
Hi Hans, On Mon, 09 Jun 2008 09:45:10 -0600, Hans Hagen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Khaled Hosny wrote: Using Luatex engine, ZWNJ and ZWJ chars are rendered incorrectly. If the font has a glyph for it, it does the expected behaviour (force non-joining or joining respectively) but the glyph get

Re: [NTG-context] Luatex (actually Aleph) and Bidi_Mirrored chars in RTL mode

2008-06-09 Thread Idris Samawi Hamid
Hi Khaled, On Sun, 08 Jun 2008 19:21:28 -0600, Khaled Hosny [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Luatex does not mirror characters that has a Bidi_Mirrored property when the text direction is set to RTL (TRT in Aleph), according to http://unicode.org/reports/tr9/#Mirroring, the different types of

Re: [NTG-context] Luatex (actually Aleph) and Bidi_Mirrored chars in RTL mode

2008-06-09 Thread Arthur Reutenauer
Also, we need not be too slavish: The Yudit author has pointed out areas where the bidi algorithm makes no sense or is deficient: http://www.yudit.org/bidi/surprise.html To be honest, this page dates back to half a dozen years ago and reflects Gáspár Sinai's positions at that time; there

Re: [NTG-context] Luatex (actually Aleph) and Bidi_Mirrored chars in RTL mode

2008-06-09 Thread Idris Samawi Hamid
Hi, On Mon, 09 Jun 2008 19:36:00 -0600, Arthur Reutenauer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Also, we need not be too slavish: The Yudit author has pointed out areas where the bidi algorithm makes no sense or is deficient: http://www.yudit.org/bidi/surprise.html To be honest, this page dates

[NTG-context] Problem with '\ ' in math commands in current minimals

2008-06-09 Thread Morgan Brassel
Hi everyone, In the following example: \define[1]\com{com\ #1} \starttext \com{1} $\com{1}$ \stoptext the second call to \com (the one in math mode) seems to stop the compilation of the file. Is it a bug? It wasn't happening before. I'm using the latest minimals. Best regards, Morgan

Re: [NTG-context] Problem with '\ ' in math commands in current minimals

2008-06-09 Thread Aditya Mahajan
On Tue, 10 Jun 2008, Morgan Brassel wrote: Hi everyone, In the following example: \define[1]\com{com\ #1} \starttext \com{1} $\com{1}$ \stoptext the second call to \com (the one in math mode) seems to stop the compilation of the file. Is it a bug? It wasn't happening before. I'm using