[NTG-context] Re: Pagebreaks
"Thomas A.Schmitz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Thanks! This command alleviated the problem without eliminating all > the "shorter" pages. \setuplayout[grid=yes] actually made it a lot > worse; almost every page was several lines short. I suspect it might > have something to with itemizations (of which there are quite a few); > this seems to confuse (Con)TeX(t). If you really want your problem solved, you should post an example. Patrick -- Why is it so difficult to post a minimal but complete example ___ ntg-context mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
[NTG-context] Re: Which Beta Version ?
Hi,
> But in which file is a note which version this beta actually is -
> in order to know before installing that it is the recent one?
in context.tex:
\def\contextversion{2003.9.24}
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[NTG-context] Re: Presentationstep in pre-fuzzy
Shivkumar Chandrasekaran <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Hello, > I have tried every combination of presentationstep and the NextStep > button in pre-fuzzy presentation style, and nothing seems to work. What do you call "nothing seems to work". Could you post a small example of what you have tried so far? Patrick -- You are your own rainbow! ___ ntg-context mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
[NTG-context] Re: Support bei Einstieg in ConText
Steffen Wolfrum <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Hi, > Gibt es etwa Bücher zum Thema ConTeXt? come on, guys. Posting in a wrong language can happen. So what. Answering (an obviously private mail posted in the ML) here in the same language on this mailinglist is not the best thing, but this can happen, too. But we should not keep up this german thread. It is not polite for the other non-german speaking people out there, that get completely bored. So I'd suggest: \if\language\en\postonthismailinglist=1 \else \dontexpand & \keepitprivate \bye \fi Patrick -- You are your own rainbow! ___ ntg-context mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
Re: [NTG-context] Support bei Einstieg in ConText
>Hallo Jörg > >Gerne würde ich mehr über dieses Vorhaben wissen. >Unterstützung bieten, Mmithilfe bei der Konvertierung ist kein Problem. >Was ich wahrscheinlich nicht kann, ist Ihnen helfen an eine Digitale >Druckerei. Doch nehme ich an, dass sich schon Leute auf dierser Liste >befinden, die uns dabei unterstützen können. > >Selber bin ich Freiberufler. Ich arbeite ausschliesslich mit Context. Meine >Erfahrung habe ich in den letzten vier Jahren aufgebaut, bin beteiligt and >der Herausgabe von Büchern. Gibt es etwa Bücher zum Thema ConTeXt? (Did you ment editing books *on* ConTeXt?) Steffen ___ ntg-context mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
[NTG-context] Which Beta Version ?
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[NTG-context] Presentationstep in pre-fuzzy
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[NTG-context] Re: [pdftex] Including \textcolor in metapost in pdf
At 18:40 26/09/2003 +0200, Jean-Christophe Dubacq wrote:
I would like to include colored text in metapost, but dvitomp does not
manage color.
I saw solutions using ConTexT --- but I do not know ConTexT (not this
year, maybe next year). I use only the mptopdf macros from ConTexT
(loaded automatically by the pdfdriver).
Do people out ther know how to do that ?
(btw, my metapost is something like
label(btex The answer is \textcolor{\teacheronly}{42} etex,(0,0));
However, the color specification is in the dvi used as an intermediate
format by mpost, just the dvi -> MP extraction does not work good.
Remark: there seems to exist a patch on a spanish speaking page, but
this is a patch in C, not web.
The following code can give you a clue on how to do this; keep in mind that
specials (used to switch color) get lost in mp!
\starttext
\setupcolors[state=start]
\startMPpage
draw image
( draw btex The answer is etex ;
draw btex { }42 etex shifted (xpart lrcorner currentpicture,0)
withcolor red ; ) ;
\stopMPpage
\stoptext
or if you need more of that:
\starttext
\setupcolors[state=start]
\startMPpage
def append expr txt =
draw btex \strut{ }\strut etex shifted (xpart lrcorner currentpicture,0) ;
draw txt shifted (xpart lrcorner currentpicture,0)
enddef ;
draw image
( draw btex The answer is etex ;
append btex 42 etex withcolor red ; ) ;
\stopMPpage
\stoptext
(the mp code should work with any-mp/tex)
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Re: [NTG-context] Pagebreaks
On Friday, September 26, 2003, at 06:15 PM, Hans Hagen wrote:
\def\defaultwidowpenalty{0}
\def\defaultclubpenalty{0}
Thanks! This command alleviated the problem without eliminating all the
"shorter" pages. \setuplayout[grid=yes] actually made it a lot worse;
almost every page was several lines short. I suspect it might have
something to with itemizations (of which there are quite a few); this
seems to confuse (Con)TeX(t).
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Re: [NTG-context] math in context
At 06:51 26/09/2003 +0100, you wrote:
I woul like to know where I may find a complete list of symbols like
$\Bbb{R}$
to use in context while I am typing maths.
The main hurdle that I have today in change my personal typset work from
latex to context is a lack of a reference manual in this area.
Do you know where I may find one?
Most of the symbols of ams math are available, furthermore, GB (why is he
so silent) has ported the nath system
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Re: [NTG-context] \setupblock[name][file=name]
At 17:42 26/09/2003 +0200, you wrote: Hi Hans, thanks first, blocks are defined. If I use your example in the following way: 1. texexec test.tex --> test test no homework! 2. texexec student.tex and than texexec test.tex --> test homework test Is this the right way to use external blocks?? indeed, the student blocks are saved in student.tub along with some sectioning info, so you indeed need the student run first Hans - Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE | [EMAIL PROTECTED] Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: +31 (0)38 477 53 69 | fax: +31 (0)38 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com - information: http://www.pragma-ade.com/roadmap.pdf documentation: http://www.pragma-ade.com/showcase.pdf - ___ ntg-context mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
Re: [NTG-context] Re: substitute for hangafter
At 15:10 26/09/2003 +0200, you wrote:
John Culleton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> I have a classic \hangafter situation in a bibliography. However this TeX
> primitive seems to be crippled in Context. What should I use instead?
what is wrong with:
\starttext
\hangafter=-2\hangindent=5em \noindent\input tufte
\stoptext
i can add to this:
{\hangafter=-2\hangindent=5em \noindent\input tufte\relax}
will not work, but
{\hangafter=-2\hangindent=5em \noindent\input tufte\relax\par}
will
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Re: [NTG-context] Please: \adaptlayout[*here*][height=...] needed!
At 13:19 26/09/2003 +0200, you wrote:
Hi,
I really need a way to enlarge some certain pages.
Because the pagenumbering is not fixed yet
I cannot use \adaptlayout[71,82][...] in the preamble.
What's the command to place \adaptlayout (or something similar)
right at that position in the text
where the page needs to be larger?
Something like \enlargethispage{15pt}.
then leave out the number;
\starttext
\showframe test \page test \adaptlayout[height=+1cm] \page
\stoptext
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Re: [NTG-context] Support bei Einstieg in ConText
Hallo Jörg Gerne würde ich mehr über dieses Vorhaben wissen. Unterstützung bieten, Mmithilfe bei der Konvertierung ist kein Problem. Was ich wahrscheinlich nicht kann, ist Ihnen helfen an eine Digitale Druckerei. Doch nehme ich an, dass sich schon Leute auf dierser Liste befinden, die uns dabei unterstützen können. Selber bin ich Freiberufler. Ich arbeite ausschliesslich mit Context. Meine Erfahrung habe ich in den letzten vier Jahren aufgebaut, bin beteiligt and der Herausgabe von Büchern. Bitte rufen Sie mich doch an. +31 485 5733896 Willi Egger Maassstraat 2 5836 BB Sambeek Niederlande www.boede.nl Freundlicher Grüsse Willi Egger - Original Message - From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, September 26, 2003 10:47 AM Subject: [NTG-context] Support bei Einstieg in ConText > Nach langem Winword-Leiden habe ich mich nun entschlossen > für längere Texte auf ConTeXt umzusteigen. > Aus Zeitgründen überlege ich, mir für den Umstieg Unterstützung zu leisten. > Bevor ich bei uns an der FH Studenten dafür anspreche, versuche ich es hier über das Forum. > > Wer ist interessiert, gegen finanzielle Unterstützung bei folgenden Aufgaben zu leisten? > > - Unterstützung bei der Einrichtung einer TeX/ConTeXt-Umgebung > - Beraten beim Layout für ein längeres Dokument > - Bestehende Winword-Texte Schulungsunterlagen konvertieren und formatieren > - Evtl. beraten bei Auswahl einer Digitaldruckerei > > Gruß > Jörg > > > ___ > ntg-context mailing list > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context > ___ ntg-context mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
Re: [NTG-context] Re: Support bei Einstieg in ConText
Am Freitag, 26.09.03, um 11:33 Uhr (Europe/Zurich) schrieb [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Since I don\'t have enough time do learn Context properly at this moment - but need some documents printed for students I ask you for some payed support: I don't have enough time to give payed support. - Install a Context Environment - tips for layouting my documents - converting some of my existing winword-documents to context (I think there will be a lot of handwork for you) - tips and suggestions: \"digital-printer-company\" (Digitaldruck-Firma) and how to work together with them. I am german and have to use \"deutsche Umlaute\" - therefore I think it will be the best to get support from a german speaking person. Have a look into my german beginner's tutorial at http://www.fiee.net/texnique/, that is, http://www.ramm.ch/fiee/texnique/?menu=0-1&lang=de Regarding layout: Buy a good book, e.g.: minimal: Gorbach, Textgestaltung am PC und Mac. Ravensburg 1995 (out of print, but used available at amazon) optimal: Willberg/Forssmann, Lesetypographie. Mainz 1996 If you know what you want, ask again. Regarding digital printshop: It depends on your wishes and a bit on your location. Grüßlis vom Hraban! -- http://www.fiee.net/texnique/ ___ ntg-context mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
Re: [NTG-context] Pagebreaks
At 10:42 26/09/2003 +0200, you wrote:
Dear colisters,
is there a way to tel Context to be dumb about pagebreaks? I mean to say
"fill every page with the exact same number of lines, no matter what,
regardless of clubs, widows, women and children"? Here's my setup:
\setuplayout[lines=17,footer=0.7cm]
\starttext
\clubpenalty=0
\widowpenalty=0
Nevertheless, some pages are 1 or even three lines shorter than the rest
(there are no tables, floats, pictures etc.). Can this be prevented?
\def\defaultwidowpenalty{0}
\def\defaultclubpenalty{0}
or maybe:
setuplayout[grid=yes]
or in the beta i just posted:
\startsetups [NeverMind]
\setups[*reset]
\widowpenalty\zerocount
\clubpenalty \zerocount
\stopsetups
\setuplayout[setups=NeverMind]
or ...
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[NTG-context] Pagebreaks
Dear colisters, is there a way to tel Context to be dumb about pagebreaks? I mean to say "fill every page with the exact same number of lines, no matter what, regardless of clubs, widows, women and children"? Here's my setup: \setuplayout[lines=17,footer=0.7cm] \starttext \clubpenalty=0 \widowpenalty=0 Nevertheless, some pages are 1 or even three lines shorter than the rest (there are no tables, floats, pictures etc.). Can this be prevented? Thanks Thomas ___ ntg-context mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
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Re: [NTG-context] \setupblock[name][file=name]
Hi Hans, thanks first, blocks are defined. If I use your example in the following way: 1. texexec test.tex --> test test no homework! 2. texexec student.tex and than texexec test.tex --> test homework test Is this the right way to use external blocks?? Bernd > \defineblock[homework] > > == test.tex === > > \defineblock[homework] > \setupblock[homework][file=student] > > \starttext > > test > > \useblocks[homework] > > test > > \stoptext > > == student.tex = > > \defineblock[homework] > > \starttext > > \beginhomework > homework > \endhomework > > \stoptext > > === > > normally, you will put the definitions in a shared environment > > Hans ___ ntg-context mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
[NTG-context] Re: substitute for hangafter
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[NTG-context] substitute for hangafter
I have a classic \hangafter situation in a bibliography. However this TeX primitive seems to be crippled in Context. What should I use instead? -- John Culleton Able Typesetters and Indexers http://wexfordpress.com ___ ntg-context mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
[NTG-context] Please: \adaptlayout[*here*][height=...] needed!
Hi,
I really need a way to enlarge some certain pages.
Because the pagenumbering is not fixed yet
I cannot use \adaptlayout[71,82][...] in the preamble.
What's the command to place \adaptlayout (or something similar)
right at that position in the text
where the page needs to be larger?
Something like \enlargethispage{15pt}.
Again, thank you for your help,
Steffen
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[NTG-context] penalties
Hi,
There have been some requeste / demands / cries for more control over
penalties lately. Since i needed something myself, i've implemented a
mechanism for controling this. For the moment only at the outer level, but
i'll add more hooks later.
I have uploaded a beta that implements setups (well, this was already
there, occasionallly even broken, but let's consider it public now).
% output=pdftex interface=en
\startsetups [something]
\widowpenalty \maxdimen
\clubpenalty \maxdimen
\brokenpenalty\maxdimen
\parfillskip \rapfillskip
\stopsetups
\startsetups [something]
\setups[reset]
\setpenalties\widowpenalties2\maxdimen
\setpenalties\clubpenalties 2\maxdimen
\brokenpenalty \maxdimen
\stopsetups
\starttext
\setuplayout[lines=7,grid=yes,setups=something] \showgrid
\nohyphens \dorecurse{2}{\input ward \endgraf} \page
\stoptext
The source-lovers may taker a look in cors-spa.tex and search for
\startsetups; there they will see the two defaults, as well as that they
may notice that the setups may depend on the grid being active. I'm not yet
sure if i keep it that way.
Now, the next thing is to decide how to deal with all those penalties; i
can imagine that we collect interesting collections of penalties and so.
Hans
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[NTG-context] Re: Support bei Einstieg in ConText
I try it again in english: I stopped a long suffer with Winword - and want to write/print longer documents with Context now. Since I don\'t have enough time do learn Context properly at this moment - but need some documents printed for students I ask you for some payed support: - Install a Context Environment - tips for layouting my documents - converting some of my existing winword-documents to context (I think there will be a lot of handwork for you) - tips and suggestions: \"digital-printer-company\" (Digitaldruck-Firma) and how to work together with them. I am german and have to use \"deutsche Umlaute\" - therefore I think it will be the best to get support from a german speaking person. > [for those who are interested: The rest of the original posting was > about support request for layout, converting documents, etc.] > Patrick Please excuse me, Patrick. It\'s my first time in a mailing-list ... and I made another mistake: I\'ve send my question twice. So, please be patient with me. I promise less mistakes :-) best regards Jörg mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ ntg-context mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
Re: [NTG-context] \setupblock[name][file=name]
At 12:01 26/09/2003 +0200, you wrote: Hi, the example \setupblock[homework][file=student] that Hans describes in his docu does not work for me! Help needed! did you define the block? \defineblock[homework] == test.tex === \defineblock[homework] \setupblock[homework][file=student] \starttext test \useblocks[homework] test \stoptext == student.tex = \defineblock[homework] \starttext \beginhomework homework \endhomework \stoptext === normally, you will put the definitions in a shared environment Hans - Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE | [EMAIL PROTECTED] Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: +31 (0)38 477 53 69 | fax: +31 (0)38 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com - information: http://www.pragma-ade.com/roadmap.pdf documentation: http://www.pragma-ade.com/showcase.pdf - ___ ntg-context mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
[NTG-context] strange message
Hi, (e:\context/sources/ward.tex) (e:\context/sources/ward.tex) Underfull \hbox (badness 3138) in paragraph at lines 10--10 /cmr12/wat kor-te tekst (e:\context/sources/ward.tex) (e:\context/sources/ward.tex) > \The key mentioned above can't be used in a . } l.21 }}\showthe\toks0} has anyone ever seen that message (\The ... .) Hans - Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE | [EMAIL PROTECTED] Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: +31 (0)38 477 53 69 | fax: +31 (0)38 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com - information: http://www.pragma-ade.com/roadmap.pdf documentation: http://www.pragma-ade.com/showcase.pdf - ___ ntg-context mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
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[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hello Jörg, > Nach langem Winword-Leiden habe ich mich nun entschlossen > für längere Texte auf ConTeXt umzusteigen. (winword suffering -> switch to ConTeXt) this is very sensible. Welcome to ConTeXt. But you have to realize that this mailinglist is read by many people around this world and mainly in english. There is no german mailinglist especially for ConTeXt, but you could alos post your questions on tex-d-l mailinglist, which is about TeX in general. [for those who are interested: The rest of the original posting was about support request for layout, converting documents, etc.] Patrick -- You are your own rainbow! ___ ntg-context mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
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