Re: [NTG-context] frontmatter

2006-06-22 Thread wwl
  - a space-char between 'doublesided' and ']' removes the last
 blank 
  page (strange).
 
 This is normal: 'doublesided' is not equal to 'doublesided '.
 And 'doublesided' requires certainly an even number of pages.

Ohh! But a leading space has no effekt.
What is the exact syntax for parameters?

Wolfgang
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Re: [NTG-context] Long listing of typescript files

2006-06-22 Thread Richard Gabriel




Yes, it it normal. I recommend you to use \preloadtypescriptsat start of every TeX file - this significantly speeds up the typescript loading.-RichardFrom: John R. Culleton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]To: ntg-context@ntg.nlSent: Thu, 22 Jun 2006 00:31:49 +0200Subject: [NTG-context] Long listing of typescript filesFor every run of texexec no matter how trivial I get a list of it
seems all the available typescript files and map files. Is this
normal? E.g.:

(/usr/share/texmf/tex/context/base/type-syn.tex)
(/usr/share/texmf/tex/context/base/type-enc.tex)
(/usr/share/texmf/tex/context/base/type-dis.tex)
(/usr/share/texmf/tex/context/base/type-siz.tex)
(/usr/share/texmf/tex/context/base/type-map.tex)
(/usr/share/texmf/tex/context/base/type-spe.tex)
(/usr/share/texmf/tex/context/base/type-exa.tex)
(/usr/share/texmf/tex/context/base/type-akb.tex)
(/usr/share/texmf/tex/context/base/type-syn.tex)
(/usr/share/texmf/tex/context/base/type-enc.tex)
(/usr/share/texmf/tex/context/base/type-dis.tex)
(/usr/share/texmf/tex/context/base/type-siz.tex)
(/usr/share/texmf/tex/context/base/type-map.tex)
(/usr/share/texmf/tex/context/base/type-spe.tex)
(/usr/share/texmf/tex/context/base/type-exa.tex)
(/usr/share/texmf/tex/context/base/type-akb.tex)
(/usr/share/texmf/tex/context/base/type-syn.tex)
(/usr/share/texmf/tex/context/base/type-enc.tex)
(/usr/share/texmf/tex/context/base/type-dis.tex)
(/usr/share/texmf/tex/context/base/type-siz.tex)
(/usr/share/texmf/tex/context/base/type-map.tex)
(/usr/share/texmf/tex/context/base/type-spe.tex)
(/usr/share/texmf/tex/context/base/type-exa.tex)
(/usr/share/texmf/tex/context/base/type-akb.tex)
(/usr/share/texmf/tex/context/base/type-syn.tex)
(/usr/share/texmf/tex/context/base/type-enc.tex)
(/usr/share/texmf/tex/context/base/type-dis.tex)
(/usr/share/texmf/tex/context/base/type-siz.tex)
(/usr/share/texmf/tex/context/base/type-map.tex)
(/usr/share/texmf/tex/context/base/type-spe.tex)
(/usr/share/texmf/tex/context/base/type-exa.tex)
(/usr/share/texmf/tex/context/base/type-akb.tex)
(/usr/share/texmf/tex/context/base/type-syn.tex)
(/usr/share/texmf/tex/context/base/type-enc.tex)
(/usr/share/texmf/tex/context/base/type-dis.tex)
(/usr/share/texmf/tex/context/base/type-siz.tex)
(/usr/share/texmf/tex/context/base/type-map.tex)
(/usr/share/texmf/tex/context/base/type-spe.tex)
(/usr/share/texmf/tex/context/base/type-exa.tex)
(/usr/share/texmf/tex/context/base/type-akb.tex)
(/usr/share/texmf/tex/context/base/type-pre.tex)
bodyfont: unknown variant Charter
) (/usr/share/texmf/tex/plain/pdfcolor/pdfcolor.tex) (./jun06.tuo) 
(./jun06.tuo
) (./jun06.tuo) (./jun06.tuo) (./jun06.tuo) (./jun06.tuo) (./jun06.tuo)
(./jun06.tuo) (./jun06.tuo) (./jun06.tuo) (./jun06.tuo) (./jun06.tuo)
(./jun06.tuo)
fonts   : using map file: texnansi-public-lm.map
fonts   : using map file: original-public-vnr.map
fonts   : using map file: original-public-csr.map
fonts   : using map file: original-public-plr.map
fonts   : using map file: original-public-lm.map
fonts   : using map file: original-ams-euler.map
fonts   : using map file: original-ams-cmr.map
fonts   : using map file: texnansi-base.map
fonts   : using map file: t5-base.map
fonts   : using map file: qx-base.map
fonts   : using map file: 8r-base.map
fonts   : using map file: ec-base.map
fonts   : using map file: ec-public-lm.map
fonts   : using map file: original-base.map
systems : begin file jun06 at line 4
(../head.tex ./oriole.jpg
figures : dimensions of ./oriole.jpg loaded from figurefile itself
(./jun06.tuo)) (../deadline.tex) (../content.tex (./jun06.tuo)) [1.1
{/usr/share
/texmf/fonts/map/dvips/context/original-empty.map}
{/usr/share/texmf/fonts/map/d
vips/context/texnansi-public-lm.map}
{/usr/share/texmf/fonts/map/dvips/context/o
riginal-public-vnr.map}
{/usr/share/texmf/fonts/map/dvips/context/original-publi
c-csr.map}{/usr/share/texmf/fonts/map/dvips/context/original-public-plr.map}
{/u
sr/share/texmf/fonts/map/dvips/context/original-public-lm.map}
{/usr/share/texmf
/fonts/map/dvips/context/original-ams-euler.map}
{/usr/share/texmf/fonts/map/dvi
ps/context/original-ams-cmr.map}
{/usr/share/texmf/fonts/map/dvips/context/texna
nsi-base.map}{/usr/share/texmf/fonts/map/dvips/context/t5-base.map}
{/usr/share/
texmf/fonts/map/dvips/context/qx-base.map}
{/usr/share/texmf/fonts/map/dvips/con
text/8r-base.map}{/usr/share/texmf/fonts/map/dvips/context/ec-base.map}
{/usr/sh
are/texmf/fonts/map/dvips/context/ec-public-lm.map}
{/usr/share/texmf/fonts/map/
dvips/context/original-base.map}] [2.2] (./calendar.tex
--

A few of these notations are specific to this application but ost
are just repetitive references. 
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Re: [NTG-context] frontmatter

2006-06-22 Thread wwl
 Hi Wolfgang,
 
 I tried your code. Indeed there is no blank page after the
 Schmutztitel.

But a blank page before!

 So you need to add to the \startstandardmakeup[page=yes]. -

No that doesn't help.
And it shouldn't be necessary. Right?

 Something 
 fuzzy is at hand with grid=yes.
 If you comment this line then the output is as expected.

I know. I wrote that. I found 3 positions which, commenting this 
lines, correct the problem.

But I don't understand WHY this helps and why the example doesn't 
works.

 
 
 Willi
 
 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Hallo!
 
  I am trying to use 'standardmakeup' to produce
 'Schmutztitel'-page
  with a following blank page. I think this is what 
  \start\stopstandardmakeup is for (in doublesided environments).
 
  But the example bellow has first a blank page and then 
  'Schmutztitel'.
 
  There is a fourth blank page too.
 
  -
  \setuppagenumbering [alternative=doublesided]
  \setuplayout[
  footer=.04\paperheight, %1
  grid=yes,   %2
  marking=on,
  location=middle,
  width=middle,
  height=middle]
  \starttext
  \startfrontmatter   %3
  \startstandardmakeup
  Schmutztitel
  \stopstandardmakeup
  \stopfrontmatter%3
  bla
  \stoptext
  -
 
  My experiments:
 
  - a space-char between 'doublesided' and ']' removes the last
 blank 
  page (strange).
 
  - uncommenting the lines in position 1,2,3 exclusivly results in
 the 
  correct behaviour.
 
  I would like to understand what the problem is and why, for
 example, 
  uncommenting frontmatter solves the problem.
 
  I thought frontmatter is the place to do title-things and so.
 
  Gr??e, Wolfgang

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Re: [NTG-context] Long listing of typescript files

2006-06-22 Thread Hans Hagen
John R. Culleton wrote:
 For every run of texexec no matter how trivial I get a list of it
 seems all the available typescript files and map files. Is this
   

 normal? E.g.:
 
 (/usr/share/texmf/tex/context/base/type-syn.tex)
 (/usr/share/texmf/tex/context/base/type-enc.tex)
 (/usr/share/texmf/tex/context/base/type-dis.tex)
 (/usr/share/texmf/tex/context/base/type-siz.tex)
 (/usr/share/texmf/tex/context/base/type-map.tex)
 (/usr/share/texmf/tex/context/base/type-spe.tex)
 (/usr/share/texmf/tex/context/base/type-exa.tex)
 (/usr/share/texmf/tex/context/base/type-akb.tex)
 (/usr/share/texmf/tex/context/base/type-syn.tex)
 (/usr/share/texmf/tex/context/base/type-enc.tex)
 (/usr/share/texmf/tex/context/base/type-dis.tex)
 (/usr/share/texmf/tex/context/base/type-siz.tex)
 (/usr/share/texmf/tex/context/base/type-map.tex)
 (/usr/share/texmf/tex/context/base/type-spe.tex)
 (/usr/share/texmf/tex/context/base/type-exa.tex)
 (/usr/share/texmf/tex/context/base/type-akb.tex)
 (/usr/share/texmf/tex/context/base/type-syn.tex)
 (/usr/share/texmf/tex/context/base/type-enc.tex)
 (/usr/share/texmf/tex/context/base/type-dis.tex)
 (/usr/share/texmf/tex/context/base/type-siz.tex)
 (/usr/share/texmf/tex/context/base/type-map.tex)
 (/usr/share/texmf/tex/context/base/type-spe.tex)
 (/usr/share/texmf/tex/context/base/type-exa.tex)
 (/usr/share/texmf/tex/context/base/type-akb.tex)
 (/usr/share/texmf/tex/context/base/type-syn.tex)
 (/usr/share/texmf/tex/context/base/type-enc.tex)
 (/usr/share/texmf/tex/context/base/type-dis.tex)
 (/usr/share/texmf/tex/context/base/type-siz.tex)
 (/usr/share/texmf/tex/context/base/type-map.tex)
 (/usr/share/texmf/tex/context/base/type-spe.tex)
 (/usr/share/texmf/tex/context/base/type-exa.tex)
 (/usr/share/texmf/tex/context/base/type-akb.tex)
 (/usr/share/texmf/tex/context/base/type-syn.tex)
 (/usr/share/texmf/tex/context/base/type-enc.tex)
 (/usr/share/texmf/tex/context/base/type-dis.tex)
 (/usr/share/texmf/tex/context/base/type-siz.tex)
 (/usr/share/texmf/tex/context/base/type-map.tex)
 (/usr/share/texmf/tex/context/base/type-spe.tex)
 (/usr/share/texmf/tex/context/base/type-exa.tex)
 (/usr/share/texmf/tex/context/base/type-akb.tex)
 (/usr/share/texmf/tex/context/base/type-pre.tex)
   
this is normal, since type-* files are not preloaded (unless you say:

\preloadtypescripts

which you can do in cont-sys.tex. If you have enough mem this will save 
you some runtime


 bodyfont: unknown variant Charter
   
this is not normal and point to an error in you rstyle
 ) (/usr/share/texmf/tex/plain/pdfcolor/pdfcolor.tex) (./jun06.tuo) 
 (./jun06.tuo
 ) (./jun06.tuo) (./jun06.tuo) (./jun06.tuo) (./jun06.tuo) (./jun06.tuo)
 (./jun06.tuo) (./jun06.tuo) (./jun06.tuo) (./jun06.tuo) (./jun06.tuo)
 (./jun06.tuo)
 fonts   : using map file: texnansi-public-lm.map
 fonts   : using map file: original-public-vnr.map
 fonts   : using map file: original-public-csr.map
 fonts   : using map file: original-public-plr.map
 fonts   : using map file: original-public-lm.map
 fonts   : using map file: original-ams-euler.map
 fonts   : using map file: original-ams-cmr.map
 fonts   : using map file: texnansi-base.map
 fonts   : using map file: t5-base.map
 fonts   : using map file: qx-base.map
 fonts   : using map file: 8r-base.map
 fonts   : using map file: ec-base.map
 fonts   : using map file: ec-public-lm.map
 fonts   : using map file: original-base.map
   
this is ok, context loads mapfiles at runtime (a few pdftex versions ago 
this was the only way to handle many fonts since loading the big map 
file pdftex.map was quite inefficient esp with thousands of entries), 
nowadays i prefer this method because (1) we need proper support for 
commercial (add-on) fonts and (2) it's cleaner and (3) what you load is 
what you get

 systems : begin file jun06 at line 4
   
Hans


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Re: [NTG-context] Aleph queries

2006-06-22 Thread Duncan Hothersall
Idris wrote:

 I doubt it, but something along these lines should do it:
 
 ==
 % tex=aleph output=dvipdfmx
 \pagedir TRT
 \bodydir TRT
 \pardir  TRT
 \textdir TRT
 \hoffset=0pt % bug
 
 \starttext
 
 \chapter{Cow}
 
 \section{Dutch Cow}
 
 \placefigure
 [middle]
 [fig:cow]
 {This is an example of a cow.}
 {\externalfigure[cow][width=1.5in]}
 
 \section{Another Dutch Cow}
 
 \placefigure
 [middle]
 [fig:cow]
 {This is an example of a cow.}
 {\externalfigure[cow][width=1.5in]}
 
 \stoptext
 
 ==
 
 Hmm, seems to work here; maybe Duncan did not use \bodydir TRT?

I agree the above works, but when I use Arabic fonts and content it
doesn't seem to.

I have new tex and pdf files at:

http://www.capdm.com/public/context/figtest.tex
and
http://www.capdm.com/public/context/figtest.pdf

 Hans: How do we configure the .=- separator?

This I have worked out!

\setupcaption[figure][separator=-]

Doh. Thanks,

Duncan
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[NTG-context] puzzling font replacement

2006-06-22 Thread albert
When I use recent ConTeXt (through Mac i-installer's ConTeXt updater), all
I get is documents typeset in a kind of poor quality Times, with all
ligatures gapped in the PDF file. Older documents, when re-run with the
recent version, all show  the same font replacement. Could somebody please
explain what's going on? Don't know much about all behind-the-scenes
procedures.
regards
Wojtek Lukaszewicz

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Re: [NTG-context] Split Table Desperation - again!

2006-06-22 Thread Hans Hagen
Johannes Graumann wrote:
 Hello,

 While the recent modifications to the split table mechanisms provided by
 Hans help me out with my most annoying monster table using the XML mapping
 code below (see
 http://www.idyll.org:8081/JohSite/context/p46-50_split_working.pdf/view for
 the typeset table; clearly to much whitespace, but everything is typeset
 and page boundaries are honored) and several other -smaller- tables in the
 same tome (see
 http://www.idyll.org:8081/JohSite/context/p45_unsplit_working.pdf/view for
 a typeset example), one medium-sized table that clearly should not be split
 gets split none the less (see
 http://www.idyll.org:8081/JohSite/context/p162-163_unnecessary_split.pdf/view)
  ...
 and I have no idea why.

   
 some of your rows are quite high and since you want to repeat headers 
... this is how it works

(1) keep at least one row with a repeated header
(2) the same with a repeated footer
(3) when a combination of header/row/footer becomes too high for a page, 
ignore that fact and flush it (else we get a loop)

so, what you see is pretty natural

in your case, i'd try to make the last column wider so that less space 
gets lost and

(i can think of a way to let the text continue on too empty pages; needs 
some braincycles)

Hans
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Re: [NTG-context] puzzling font replacement

2006-06-22 Thread Thomas A. Schmitz
Could be this problem:
http://archive.contextgarden.net/message/ 
20060613.153738.aa23ed63.en.html

But who can tell? Your description of the problem is so vague as to  
be useless. So here's another important link: http://catb.org/~esr/ 
faqs/smart-questions.html

HTH

Thomas

On Jun 22, 2006, at 10:22 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 When I use recent ConTeXt (through Mac i-installer's ConTeXt  
 updater), all
 I get is documents typeset in a kind of poor quality Times, with all
 ligatures gapped in the PDF file. Older documents, when re-run with  
 the
 recent version, all show  the same font replacement. Could somebody  
 please
 explain what's going on? Don't know much about all behind-the-scenes
 procedures.
 regards
 Wojtek Lukaszewicz

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Re: [NTG-context] frontmatter

2006-06-22 Thread Vit Zyka
Willi Egger wrote:
 Hi Wolfgang,
 
 I tried your code. Indeed there is no blank page after the Schmutztitel.
 So you need to add to the \startstandardmakeup[page=yes]. - Something 

Moreover:

page=yes|right|... makes the same page break setting to both place: 
start...matter and stop...matter. I ussually need a different setting. 
For now I am solving it by

\setupsectionblock
   [frontpart]
   [page=right,
after={\setvalue{\??sb\@@sectionblock\c!page}{}}]

but it is not elegant. Can be introduced pagestart|pagestop?

Vit

 fuzzy is at hand with grid=yes.
 If you comment this line then the output is as expected.
 
 
 Willi
 
 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hallo!

 I am trying to use 'standardmakeup' to produce 'Schmutztitel'-page
 with a following blank page. I think this is what 
 \start\stopstandardmakeup is for (in doublesided environments).

 But the example bellow has first a blank page and then 
 'Schmutztitel'.

 There is a fourth blank page too.

 -
 \setuppagenumbering  [alternative=doublesided]
 \setuplayout [
 footer=.04\paperheight, %1
 grid=yes,   %2
 marking=on,
 location=middle,
 width=middle,
 height=middle]
 \starttext
 \startfrontmatter   %3
 \startstandardmakeup
 Schmutztitel
 \stopstandardmakeup
 \stopfrontmatter%3
 bla
 \stoptext
 -

 My experiments:

 - a space-char between 'doublesided' and ']' removes the last blank 
 page (strange).

 - uncommenting the lines in position 1,2,3 exclusivly results in the 
 correct behaviour.

 I would like to understand what the problem is and why, for example, 
 uncommenting frontmatter solves the problem.

 I thought frontmatter is the place to do title-things and so.

 Grüße, Wolfgang
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[NTG-context] How to increase left and right padding of cells in a natural table?

2006-06-22 Thread Nicolas Grilly



Hello,

I'm using natural tables 
(\bTABLE ... \eTABLE) andI want to increase the space between the 
cells borders and the text inside the cells (CSS calls that left-padding and 
right-padding).

I didn't use parameter 
"offset" because I want to increase only left and right padding. I don't want to 
increase top and bottom padding.

How can I do 
that?

Thanks for your 
ideas,

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Re: [NTG-context] How to increase left and right padding of cells in a natural table?

2006-06-22 Thread Vit Zyka


Nicolas Grilly wrote:
 Hello,
  
 I'm using natural tables (\bTABLE ... \eTABLE) and/ /I want to increase 
 the space between the cells borders and the text inside the cells (CSS 
 calls that left-padding and right-padding).
  
 I didn't use parameter offset because I want to increase only left and 
 right padding. I don't want to increase top and bottom padding.

Let try
offset=2pt,% hor+vert each cell
distance=\zeropoint,   % individual column
columndistance=\zeropoint, % each column (whole table)
leftmargindistance=\zeropoint, % whole table
rightmargindistance=\zeropoint,% whole table

Vit

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Re: [NTG-context] bib module beta test

2006-06-22 Thread Ulf Martin
Hi,

I'd like to try the new bib module, but --
how to install ConTeXt modules?

Taco Hoekwater schrieb:
 Some of you may have missed this, but I have posted a beta of the 
 bibliographic module on http://modules.contextgarden.net/bib

 From the zip file I guess that I have to distribute the files into 
appropriate directories of my TeX distro. Is there a script for this? 
Maybe some fancy texexec something?

There does not seem to be an explanation of this in
http://modules.contextgarden.net/
or anywhere else in contextgarden.

Up to now I only used i-install'd stuff.

Is there an eqivalent to LaTeX packages?

Thanks  Cheers
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Re: [NTG-context] How to increase left and right padding of cells in a natural table?

2006-06-22 Thread Nicolas Grilly


Vit,

I just tried your solution, but it doesn't work: it adds space to the four
side of table cells. But I want to add space ONLY TO LEFT AND RIGHT, not to
top and bottom, like in the following illustration:

-
|My text|
-

 --offset--   --offset--


 Nicolas Grilly wrote:
  Hello,
   
  I'm using natural tables (\bTABLE ... \eTABLE) and/ /I want to 
  increase the space between the cells borders and the text 
 inside the 
  cells (CSS calls that left-padding and right-padding).
   
  I didn't use parameter offset because I want to increase 
 only left 
  and right padding. I don't want to increase top and bottom padding.
 
 Let try
 offset=2pt,% hor+vert each cell
 distance=\zeropoint,   % individual column
 columndistance=\zeropoint, % each column (whole table)
 leftmargindistance=\zeropoint, % whole table
 rightmargindistance=\zeropoint,% whole table
 
 Vit


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Re: [NTG-context] frontmatter

2006-06-22 Thread Hans Hagen
Vit Zyka wrote:
 Willi Egger wrote:
   
 Hi Wolfgang,

 I tried your code. Indeed there is no blank page after the Schmutztitel.
 So you need to add to the \startstandardmakeup[page=yes]. - Something 
 

 Moreover:

 page=yes|right|... makes the same page break setting to both place: 
 start...matter and stop...matter. I ussually need a different setting. 
 For now I am solving it by

 \setupsectionblock
[frontpart]
[page=right,
 after={\setvalue{\??sb\@@sectionblock\c!page}{}}]
   
the problem has to do with an overflow of makeup in grid mode (due to already 
present mark reset nodes); i uploaded a beta that (hopefully) corrects the 
problem (thanks to taco for analyzing that it was textheight related) 

Hans 

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Re: [NTG-context] How to increase left and right padding of cells in a natural table?

2006-06-22 Thread Hans Hagen
Nicolas Grilly wrote:
 Vit,

 I just tried your solution, but it doesn't work: it adds space to the four
 side of table cells. But I want to add space ONLY TO LEFT AND RIGHT, not to
 top and bottom, like in the following illustration:

 -
 |My text|
 -
   
inside the cell 

\leftskip1em \rightskip\leftskip 

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Re: [NTG-context] bib module beta test

2006-06-22 Thread Taco Hoekwater


Ulf Martin wrote:
 Hi,
 
 I'd like to try the new bib module, but --
 how to install ConTeXt modules?

It is really simple, you only have to unzip the file in one
of the texmf trees and run mktexlsr afterwards.

However: which tree you need to use depends on your TeX
distribution so I cannot help you with that (I work on Linux)

Cheers, taco
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[NTG-context] reference formatting

2006-06-22 Thread Hans van der Meer
With \definereferenceformat[pin][left=(,right=)] it is possible to typeset references with	\pin[ref] and get "(ref)"I have two questions in this respect:1. is it possible to change the general setup in the same way,	e.g. let \in[ref] do the same as \pin[ref] here.	The left and right are not in setupreferencing.2. some strange interchange takes place when using \pin{A}{B}[ref].	Instead of the expected "A (ref) B" one gets "A (refB);	it therefore seems the right parenthesis from the setup comes too late in play.Hans van der Meer ___
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Re: [NTG-context] How to increase left and right padding of cells in a natural table?

2006-06-22 Thread Nicolas Grilly


Hans,

Thanks for your help, but I don't know where to put your code.

I tried the following code (and other similar solutions) but it doesn't
work:

\bTABLE
\bTR
\bTH My Title \eTH
\bTH Your title \eTH
\eTR
\bTR
\bTD First try \eTD
\bTD Second try \eTD
\eTR
\bTR
\bTD First movie \eTD
\bTD \leftskip1cm \leftskip\rightskip Second movie \eTD
\eTR
\eTABLE


Moreover, I want to set this not for one table cell but for EVERY table
cells.

Do you have any advice?

Nicolas


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 padding of cells in a natural table?
 
 
 
 Nicolas Grilly wrote:
  Vit,
 
  I just tried your solution, but it doesn't work: it adds 
 space to the 
  four side of table cells. But I want to add space ONLY TO LEFT AND 
  RIGHT, not to top and bottom, like in the following illustration:
 
  -
  |My text|
  -

 inside the cell 
 
 \leftskip1em \rightskip\leftskip 
 
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Re: [NTG-context] bib module beta test

2006-06-22 Thread Aditya Mahajan
On Thu, 22 Jun 2006, Taco Hoekwater wrote:

 Hi,

 Some of you may have missed this, but I have posted a beta of the
 bibliographic module on http://modules.contextgarden.net/bib

 I would appreciate it if people that have documents with large
 bibliographies would download it and run their files. Some mayor
 stuff has changed, and I really need confirmation that I have not
 broken backward compatibility.

Something is wrong with alternative=num|num-fr. Consider

%--test.tex-
\usemodule[bib]

\setuppublications[alternative=num]
% num-fr also does not work

\starttext
  The manual of bib||module is \cite[me].
\placepublications
\stoptext

%---

%---test.bbl--
\startpublication[k=me,
t=manual,
a=Hoekwater,
y=2006,
s=TH2006,
n=1,
u=http://contextgarden.net/Bibliography]
\author[]{Taco}[T.]{}{Hoekwater}
\title{\CONTEXT\ Publication Module, The user documententation}
\pubyear{2006}
\note{In case you didn't know: it's the document you are reading now}
\pages{14}
\stoppublication

%


The output looks like


The manual of bib--module is [1].

[] Taco Hoekwater ConTEXt Publication Module, The user 
documententation. 14p.
In case you didn’t know: it’s the document you are reading now.


Notice the empty brackets in the list of publications.

Aditya

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Re: [NTG-context] Aleph queries

2006-06-22 Thread Hans Hagen
Duncan Hothersall wrote:

 I agree the above works, but when I use Arabic fonts and content it
 doesn't seem to.

 I have new tex and pdf files at:

 http://www.capdm.com/public/context/figtest.tex
 and
 http://www.capdm.com/public/context/figtest.pdf
   
hm, some weird interaction between opt's and directions and context reversing 
numbers ... i must look into it

what we need is a test doc with all relevant typo concepts that needs special 
treatment (either or not reversion) so that we can deal with all of them 

Hans 

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Re: [NTG-context] ConTeXt 2006.06.09 released

2006-06-22 Thread Idris Samawi Hamid
Hi Taco, Hans,

On Tue, 13 Jun 2006 07:20:26 -0600, Taco Hoekwater [EMAIL PROTECTED]  
wrote:

 Hello all,

 I am pleased to announce that the new ConTeXt release from Hans Hagen
 can be downloaded as of now from the Pragma ADE website or one of its
 mirrors.

I'm subscribed to the Pragma RSS but did not get this announcement. Are  
these things in sync?

Best
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[NTG-context] Typescripts tutorials?

2006-06-22 Thread Jason Knight
Hello --

I'm getting ready to get some new fonts working and I'm trying to figure
out typescripts. Specifically, I'm confused about the syntax of the

\starttypescript [][][]

statements. Is there an explanation of these files in non-code (ie,
English)?

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Re: [NTG-context] Long listing of typescript files

2006-06-22 Thread John R. Culleton
On Thursday 22 June 2006 03:30 am, Hans Hagen wrote:
 John R. Culleton wrote:
  For every run of texexec no matter how trivial I get a list of it
  seems all the available typescript files and map files. Is this
 
 
  normal? E.g.:
  
  (/usr/share/texmf/tex/context/base/type-syn.tex)
  (/usr/share/texmf/tex/context/base/type-enc.tex)
  (/usr/share/texmf/tex/context/base/type-dis.tex)
  (/usr/share/texmf/tex/context/base/type-siz.tex)
  (/usr/share/texmf/tex/context/base/type-map.tex)
  (/usr/share/texmf/tex/context/base/type-spe.tex)
  (/usr/share/texmf/tex/context/base/type-exa.tex)
  (/usr/share/texmf/tex/context/base/type-akb.tex)
  (/usr/share/texmf/tex/context/base/type-syn.tex)
  (/usr/share/texmf/tex/context/base/type-enc.tex)
  (/usr/share/texmf/tex/context/base/type-dis.tex)
  (/usr/share/texmf/tex/context/base/type-siz.tex)
  (/usr/share/texmf/tex/context/base/type-map.tex)
  (/usr/share/texmf/tex/context/base/type-spe.tex)
  (/usr/share/texmf/tex/context/base/type-exa.tex)
  (/usr/share/texmf/tex/context/base/type-akb.tex)
  (/usr/share/texmf/tex/context/base/type-syn.tex)
  (/usr/share/texmf/tex/context/base/type-enc.tex)
  (/usr/share/texmf/tex/context/base/type-dis.tex)
  (/usr/share/texmf/tex/context/base/type-siz.tex)
  (/usr/share/texmf/tex/context/base/type-map.tex)
  (/usr/share/texmf/tex/context/base/type-spe.tex)
  (/usr/share/texmf/tex/context/base/type-exa.tex)
  (/usr/share/texmf/tex/context/base/type-akb.tex)
  (/usr/share/texmf/tex/context/base/type-syn.tex)
  (/usr/share/texmf/tex/context/base/type-enc.tex)
  (/usr/share/texmf/tex/context/base/type-dis.tex)
  (/usr/share/texmf/tex/context/base/type-siz.tex)
  (/usr/share/texmf/tex/context/base/type-map.tex)
  (/usr/share/texmf/tex/context/base/type-spe.tex)
  (/usr/share/texmf/tex/context/base/type-exa.tex)
  (/usr/share/texmf/tex/context/base/type-akb.tex)
  (/usr/share/texmf/tex/context/base/type-syn.tex)
  (/usr/share/texmf/tex/context/base/type-enc.tex)
  (/usr/share/texmf/tex/context/base/type-dis.tex)
  (/usr/share/texmf/tex/context/base/type-siz.tex)
  (/usr/share/texmf/tex/context/base/type-map.tex)
  (/usr/share/texmf/tex/context/base/type-spe.tex)
  (/usr/share/texmf/tex/context/base/type-exa.tex)
  (/usr/share/texmf/tex/context/base/type-akb.tex)
  (/usr/share/texmf/tex/context/base/type-pre.tex)

 this is normal, since type-* files are not preloaded (unless you say:

 \preloadtypescripts

OK but this raises another question. Why does it preload the same
scripts over and over again? A close examination of the above
list shows considerable repetition.  There are 8 files reloaded
five times each (I think.)

I will go for \preloadtypescripts as you suggest.
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[NTG-context] newline with \setupTABLE[bottom=...]

2006-06-22 Thread Peter Münster
Hello,
in accordance to http://context.literatesolutions.com/collector/52
I got used to write things like:

\starttext
\setupTABLE[c][1][style=before,bottom=after]
\bTABLE
\bTR\bTD X\eTD\bTD bla\eTD\eTR
\bTR\bTD X\eTD\bTD bla\eTD\eTR
\eTABLE
\stoptext

This worked fine, but with the latest ConTeXt, the bottom=... introduces a
newline. Do you have a solution for this issue?

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Re: [NTG-context] How to increase left and right padding of cells in a natural table?

2006-06-22 Thread Vit Zyka
Hans Hagen wrote:
 Nicolas Grilly wrote:
 Vit,

 I just tried your solution, but it doesn't work: it adds space to the four
 side of table cells. But I want to add space ONLY TO LEFT AND RIGHT, not to
 top and bottom, like in the following illustration:

 -
 |My text|
 -
   
 inside the cell 
 
 \leftskip1em \rightskip\leftskip 

Not to four sides but between columns. Rows distance is not affected. 
But you are right it does not increase distance between text and cell 
frame. Since natural tables uses \framed construct in each cell and 
\framed has no 'before'/'after'/'hoffset'/'leftoffset'/'rightoffset' it 
can not be simply set for whole natural table.

Solution?

a) quick:
  \bTD \hskip1cm Second movie \hskip2cm\null\eTD
or with macro:
\newdimen\lOffset \lOffset=1cm
\newdimen\rOffset \rOffset=2cm
\def\myNatTabCell#1{\bTD\hskip\lOffset#1\hskip\rOffset\null\eTD}
...
\myNatTabCell{Second movie}
...

b) systematic
create alternative \extframed with 'before', 'after', 'hoffset', 
'leftoffset', 'rightoffset', 'voffset', 'topoffset', 'bottomoffset'
and add switches:
   \bTABLE[alternative=extframed,leftoffset=1cm,rightoffset=2cm]

Vit

Minimal example:
---
\starttext
\bTABLE[frame=on]
\bTR
 \bTH My Title \eTH
 \bTH Your title \eTH
\eTR
\bTR
 \bTD First try \eTD
 \bTD Second try \eTD
\eTR
\bTR
 \bTD First movie \eTD
 \bTD \hskip1cm Second movie \hskip2cm\null\eTD
\eTR
\eTABLE
\stoptext

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Re: [NTG-context] frontmatter

2006-06-22 Thread Vit Zyka
Hans Hagen wrote:
 Vit Zyka wrote:
 Willi Egger wrote:
   
 Hi Wolfgang,

 I tried your code. Indeed there is no blank page after the Schmutztitel.
 So you need to add to the \startstandardmakeup[page=yes]. - Something 
 
 Moreover:

 page=yes|right|... makes the same page break setting to both place: 
 start...matter and stop...matter. I ussually need a different setting. 
 For now I am solving it by

 \setupsectionblock
[frontpart]
[page=right,
 after={\setvalue{\??sb\@@sectionblock\c!page}{}}]
   
 the problem has to do with an overflow of makeup in grid mode (due to already 
 present mark reset nodes); i uploaded a beta that (hopefully) corrects the 
 problem (thanks to taco for analyzing that it was textheight related) 
 
 Hans 

Good news the bug was fixed.

What I proposed was not related to mentioned error. It just recalled me 
this problem of coupled 'page' option and the need to be split.

Vit
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Re: [NTG-context] reference formatting

2006-06-22 Thread Aditya Mahajan


On Thu, 22 Jun 2006, Hans van der Meer wrote:

 With \definereferenceformat[pin][left=(,right=)] it is possible to typeset 
 references with
   \pin[ref] and get (ref)

 I have two questions in this respect:

 1. is it possible to change the general setup in the same way,
   e.g. let \in[ref] do the same as \pin[ref] here.
   The left and right are not in setupreferencing.


Don't know about this.

 2. some strange interchange takes place when using \pin{A}{B}[ref].
   Instead of the expected A (ref) B one gets A (refB);
   it therefore seems the right parenthesis from the setup comes too 
 late in play.

As I understand referencing, this is the expected behaviour. I think 
that \in{..}{..}[...] was for things like

As seen in \in{Figure}{a}[fig]...

that is when you want to refer to a subfigure (or a subformula). That is 
why there is no space between the number and the content in the second 
{..}

This is what core-ref.tex says

%D \placefigure
%D   [here][three calls]
%D   {Three alternatives reference calls.}
%D   {\startcombination[1*3]
%D  {\framed{\type{ \in }}} {a}
%D  {\framed{\type{ \at }}} {b}
%D  {\framed{\type{\goto}}} {c}
%D\stopcombination}
%D
%D \startbuffer
%D \in figure[fig:three calls]
%D \in{figure}[fig:three calls]
%D \in figure a[fig:three calls]
%D \in{figure}{a}[fig:three calls]
%D figure~\in[fig:three calls]
%D \stopbuffer
%D
%D \typebuffer
%D
%D This turns up as:
%D
%D \startlines
%D \getbuffer
%D \stoplines

I was not aware of that the braces around figure can be omitted!


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Re: [NTG-context] How to increase left and right padding of cells in a natural table?

2006-06-22 Thread Nicolas Grilly


Vit,

Thanks for your quick answer. I tried your quick solution (\bTD \hskip1cm
Second movie \hskip2cm\null\eTD) but it doesn't work when cell contains a
multiline text: the left space is only present on the first line and the
right space is only present on the last line.

Andmy natural table have some cells containing two or three lines of text.
Do you have any idea?

Thanks,

Nicolas


PS: If someone is able to develop an extension to natural tables in order to
have parameters like leftoffset, rightoffset, topoffset and bottomoffset in
bTABLE and setupTABLE, my company is interested to pay some hours/days of
development and release the result to ConTeXt project.


Vit wrote:
  Vit,
 
  I just tried your solution, but it doesn't work: it adds 
 space to the 
  four side of table cells. But I want to add space ONLY TO LEFT AND 
  RIGHT, not to top and bottom, like in the following illustration:
 
  -
  |My text|
  -

  inside the cell
  
  \leftskip1em \rightskip\leftskip
 
 Not to four sides but between columns. Rows distance is not affected. 
 But you are right it does not increase distance between text 
 and cell frame. Since natural tables uses \framed construct 
 in each cell and \framed has no 
 'before'/'after'/'hoffset'/'leftoffset'/'rightoffset' it can 
 not be simply set for whole natural table.
 
 Solution?
 
 a) quick:
   \bTD \hskip1cm Second movie \hskip2cm\null\eTD
 or with macro:
 \newdimen\lOffset \lOffset=1cm
 \newdimen\rOffset \rOffset=2cm
 \def\myNatTabCell#1{\bTD\hskip\lOffset#1\hskip\rOffset\null\eTD}
 ...
 \myNatTabCell{Second movie}
 ...
 
 b) systematic
 create alternative \extframed with 'before', 'after', 
 'hoffset', 'leftoffset', 'rightoffset', 'voffset', 
 'topoffset', 'bottomoffset'
 and add switches:
\bTABLE[alternative=extframed,leftoffset=1cm,rightoffset=2cm]
 
 Vit
 
 Minimal example:
 ---
 \starttext
 \bTABLE[frame=on]
 \bTR
  \bTH My Title \eTH
  \bTH Your title \eTH
 \eTR
 \bTR
  \bTD First try \eTD
  \bTD Second try \eTD
 \eTR
 \bTR
  \bTD First movie \eTD
  \bTD \hskip1cm Second movie \hskip2cm\null\eTD \eTR 
 \eTABLE \stoptext


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Re: [NTG-context] frontmatter

2006-06-22 Thread wwl
 the problem has to do with an overflow of makeup in grid mode (due
 to already present mark reset nodes); i uploaded a beta that
 (hopefully) corrects the problem (thanks to taco for analyzing that
 it was textheight related) 
 
 Hans 

Thank you, Hans and Taco!

It works now as expected.

Wolfgang
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Re: [NTG-context] frontmatter

2006-06-22 Thread wwl
  I tried your code. Indeed there is no blank page after the
 Schmutztitel.
  So you need to add to the \startstandardmakeup[page=yes]. -
 Something 
  
  Moreover:
 
  page=yes|right|... makes the same page break setting to both
 place: 
  start...matter and stop...matter. I ussually need a different
 setting. 
  For now I am solving it by
 
  \setupsectionblock
 [frontpart]
 [page=right,
  after={\setvalue{\??sb\@@sectionblock\c!page}{}}]

  the problem has to do with an overflow of makeup in grid mode (due
 to already present mark reset nodes); i uploaded a beta that
 (hopefully) corrects the problem (thanks to taco for analyzing that
 it was textheight related) 
  
  Hans 
 
 Good news the bug was fixed.
 
 What I proposed was not related to mentioned error. It just recalled
 me 
 this problem of coupled 'page' option and the need to be split.
 
 Vit

Can you make a little example where a split 'page' option is from 
use?

Wolfgang
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[NTG-context] Linux upgrade

2006-06-22 Thread John R. Culleton
I have been working with two versions of TeX, neither one of
which is new enough to accomodate all the latest Context bells and
whistles.  I tried downloading context.zip and installing it on my
standard /usr/share/texmf tree. No joy. I get messages telling me to use the
texmfstart command instead. This is as I recall a Windows thingie.
So next I tried linux binaries only. Still no joy.
 

Let me start all over. Assuming a working TeX installation
(either tetex or texlive 2005) what incantation must I perform to
upgrade to the latest stable Context and what specific zip file
should I use? 

It appears that Context is set up primarily for Windows but I use
Slackware Linux 10.2. 

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Re: [NTG-context] frontmatter

2006-06-22 Thread Vit Zyka
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I tried your code. Indeed there is no blank page after the
 Schmutztitel.
 So you need to add to the \startstandardmakeup[page=yes]. -
 Something 
 
 Moreover:

 page=yes|right|... makes the same page break setting to both
 place: 
 start...matter and stop...matter. I ussually need a different
 setting. 
 For now I am solving it by

 \setupsectionblock
[frontpart]
[page=right,
 after={\setvalue{\??sb\@@sectionblock\c!page}{}}]
   
 the problem has to do with an overflow of makeup in grid mode (due
 to already present mark reset nodes); i uploaded a beta that
 (hopefully) corrects the problem (thanks to taco for analyzing that
 it was textheight related) 
 Hans 
 Good news the bug was fixed.

 What I proposed was not related to mentioned error. It just recalled
 me 
 this problem of coupled 'page' option and the need to be split.

 Vit
 
 Can you make a little example where a split 'page' option is from 
 use?

When you want the frontmatter starts et right (odd) page and mainmatter 
at arbitrary one.

Setting:
   \setupsectionblock[frontpart][page=right]
put
   \page[right]
at
   \startfrontmatter
and also at
   \stopfrontmatter
and that is why following mainmatter may skip even page starting at 
right one. My solution is above but it is not user friendly.

Vit

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Re: [NTG-context] Linux upgrade

2006-06-22 Thread Aditya Mahajan
Hi John,
  Others will be able to tell you better on how to upgrade on Linux (I 
myself use windows) but

 standard /usr/share/texmf tree. No joy. I get messages telling me to use the
 texmfstart command instead. This is as I recall a Windows thingie.

you need texmfstart on linux also. Does everything work fine if you 
use texmfstart?

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Re: [NTG-context] Typescripts tutorials?

2006-06-22 Thread Idris Samawi Hamid
Hi Jason,

You can start here:

http://wiki.contextgarden.net/Fonts

Hans has a nice ConTeXt magazine on installing system: mag-0009.pdf (u can  
find it on the pragma site).

Best
Idris

On Thu, 22 Jun 2006 10:27:24 -0600, Jason Knight [EMAIL PROTECTED]  
wrote:

 I'm getting ready to get some new fonts working and I'm trying to figure
 out typescripts. Specifically, I'm confused about the syntax of the

 \starttypescript [][][]

 statements. Is there an explanation of these files in non-code (ie,
 English)?

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Re: [NTG-context] Typescripts tutorials?

2006-06-22 Thread Richard Gabriel




Hello Jason,I'd recommend you the Bill McClain's Context Beginner Help page:http://home.salamander.com/~wmcclain/context-help.htmlJust when I've found this, typescripts and other font-related things stopped to be a mystery for me... ;-)-RichardFrom: Jason Knight [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]To: ntg-context@ntg.nlSent: Thu, 22 Jun 2006 18:27:24 +0200Subject: [NTG-context] Typescripts tutorials?Hello --

I'm getting ready to get some new fonts working and I'm trying to figure
out typescripts. Specifically, I'm confused about the syntax of the

\starttypescript [][][]

statements. Is there an explanation of these files in non-code (ie,
English)?

jason
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