[NTG-context] French spacing with pdfTeX-1.40 and ConTeXt-beta
Hello, my attempt to get correct French spacing before punctuation does no more work with the latest ConTeXt-beta. Is there now a new method with pdfTeX-1.40 to get automatically the good spacing? Today I try it like this (without success): %%% module t-french.tex %%% \def\activateSomeCharacters{% \defineactivecharacter « {\leftguillemot\,}% does not work \defineactivecharacter » {\,\rightguillemot}% with utf-encoding % % \defineactivecharacter ; {\,\lettersemicolon}% does not work % \defineactivecharacter ? {\,\letterquestionmark}%does not work with \defineactivecharacter : {\,\lettercolon}% project/product \defineactivecharacter ! {\,\letterexclamationmark}}%structure \startlanguagespecifics[fr] \activateSomeCharacters \setupitemize[symbol=2] \lccode`\'=`\' \stoplanguagespecifics \mainlanguage[fr] \appendtoks\activateSomeCharacters\to\everystarttext Greetings, Peter -- http://pmrb.free.fr/contact/ ___ ntg-context mailing list ntg-context@ntg.nl http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
Re: [NTG-context] Font installation
On 06 Nov 2006 14:33:11 +0100, Antoine Junod wrote: Hello list, I'm trying to install new fonts in my texmf tree but at each try I stop at the same point, when compiling my test file: (./type-doulos.tex) ! Font \*doulos12ptrmtfrm*:=DoulosSil at 12.0pt not loadable: Metric (TFM) file not found. \starttypescript [serif] [doulos] [texnansi] \definefontsynonym[DoulosSIL][texnansi-DoulosSILR][encoding=texnansi] \stoptypescript \starttypescript [serif] [doulos] [name] \definefontsynonym[Serif] [DoulosSil] \stoptypescript Does it help if you change \definefontsynonym[Serif] [DoulosSil] into \definefontsynonym[Serif] [DoulosSIL] ? For DuolosSil there is currently no synonym defined in the what you posted above. Mojca ___ ntg-context mailing list ntg-context@ntg.nl http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
[NTG-context] Debian/texlive/context: Segfault in mpost
On Debian testing/unstable with texlive-metapost/testing uptodate 2005.dfsg.2-2 texlive-base/testing uptodate 2005.dfsg.2-3 texlive-common/testing uptodate 2005.dfsg.2-3 texlive-base-bin/testing uptodate 2005.dfsg.2-2 and the new context package from www.tug.org/texlive/Debian version 2006.08.08 the following text file processes without error but has no graphic \starttext \startuseMPgraphic{test} draw (0,0)..(1,0)..(1,1)..(1,0)..cycle scaled 5cm withcolor black ; \stopuseMPgraphic \useMPgraphic{test} \stoptext Further investigation revealed that [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ mpost -progname=metafun -mem=metafun mptest-mpgraph.mp This is MetaPost, Version 0.901 (Web2C 7.5.5) (mptest-mpgraph.mpSegmentation fault Mpost segfaulted, which I have never seen and have no idea how to pursue. More details: [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ mpost --version MetaPost 0.901 (Web2C 7.5.5) kpathsea version 3.5.5 Copyright 2005 ATT Bell Laboratories. Kpathsea is copyright 2005 Karl Berry and Olaf Weber. There is NO warranty. Redistribution of this software is covered by the terms of both the MetaPost copyright and the Lesser GNU General Public License. For more information about these matters, see the file named COPYING and the MetaPost source. Primary author of MetaPost: John Hobby. Kpathsea written by Karl Berry, Olaf Weber, and others. [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ locate metafun.mem /etc/texmf/web2c/metafun.mem /var/lib/texmf/web2c/metafun.mem -- Johan Sandblom N8, MRC, Karolinska sjh t +46851776108 17176 Stockholm m +46735521477 Sweden What is wanted is not the will to believe, but the will to find out, which is the exact opposite - Bertrand Russell ___ ntg-context mailing list ntg-context@ntg.nl http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
Re: [NTG-context] Debian/texlive/context: Segfault in mpost
On Mit, 08 Nov 2006, Johan Sandblom wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ locate metafun.mem /etc/texmf/web2c/metafun.mem /var/lib/texmf/web2c/metafun.mem The mem file in /etc/texmf/web2c seems VERY FISHY!!! Please remove it. Probably metapost loads a wrong metafun.mem file. Best wishes Norbert --- Dr. Norbert Preining [EMAIL PROTECTED]Università di Siena Debian Developer [EMAIL PROTECTED] Debian TeX Group gpg DSA: 0x09C5B094 fp: 14DF 2E6C 0307 BE6D AD76 A9C0 D2BF 4AA3 09C5 B094 --- AMERSHAM (n.) The sneeze which tickles but never comes. (Thought to derive from the Metropolitan Line tube station of the same name where the rails always rattle but the train never arrives.) --- Douglas Adams, The Meaning of Liff ___ ntg-context mailing list ntg-context@ntg.nl http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
Re: [NTG-context] Debian/texlive/context: Segfault in mpost
I did. No change. Regards, Johan 2006/11/8, Norbert Preining [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Mit, 08 Nov 2006, Johan Sandblom wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ locate metafun.mem /etc/texmf/web2c/metafun.mem /var/lib/texmf/web2c/metafun.mem The mem file in /etc/texmf/web2c seems VERY FISHY!!! Please remove it. Probably metapost loads a wrong metafun.mem file. Best wishes Norbert --- Dr. Norbert Preining [EMAIL PROTECTED]Università di Siena Debian Developer [EMAIL PROTECTED] Debian TeX Group gpg DSA: 0x09C5B094 fp: 14DF 2E6C 0307 BE6D AD76 A9C0 D2BF 4AA3 09C5 B094 --- AMERSHAM (n.) The sneeze which tickles but never comes. (Thought to derive from the Metropolitan Line tube station of the same name where the rails always rattle but the train never arrives.) --- Douglas Adams, The Meaning of Liff -- Johan Sandblom N8, MRC, Karolinska sjh t +46851776108 17176 Stockholm m +46735521477 Sweden What is wanted is not the will to believe, but the will to find out, which is the exact opposite - Bertrand Russell ___ ntg-context mailing list ntg-context@ntg.nl http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
Re: [NTG-context] Debian/texlive/context: Segfault in mpost
On Mit, 08 Nov 2006, Johan Sandblom wrote: texlive-metapost/testing uptodate 2005.dfsg.2-2 texlive-base/testing uptodate 2005.dfsg.2-3 texlive-common/testing uptodate 2005.dfsg.2-3 texlive-base-bin/testing uptodate 2005.dfsg.2-2 and the new context package from www.tug.org/texlive/Debian version 2006.08.08 the following text file processes without error but has no graphic Strange enough, on my computer I don't see this problem. The file contains the graphics. [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ mpost -progname=metafun -mem=metafun mptest-mpgraph.mp This is MetaPost, Version 0.901 (Web2C 7.5.5) (mptest-mpgraph.mpSegmentation fault [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ locate metafun.mem /etc/texmf/web2c/metafun.mem /var/lib/texmf/web2c/metafun.mem Maybe some other files in /etc/texmf/web2c are interfering. metapost pool files would be an idea. Can you send me the list of files in /etc/texmf/web2c? I have thee ONLY mktex.cnf!!! Best wishes Norbert --- Dr. Norbert Preining [EMAIL PROTECTED]Università di Siena Debian Developer [EMAIL PROTECTED] Debian TeX Group gpg DSA: 0x09C5B094 fp: 14DF 2E6C 0307 BE6D AD76 A9C0 D2BF 4AA3 09C5 B094 --- DUNGENESS (n.) The uneasy feeling that the plastic handles of the overloaded supermarket carrier bag you are carrying are getting steadily longer. --- Douglas Adams, The Meaning of Liff ___ ntg-context mailing list ntg-context@ntg.nl http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
Re: [NTG-context] Debian/texlive/context: Segfault in mpost
Hi, 2006/11/8, Tobias Burnus [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hi, Norbert Preining wrote: On Mit, 08 Nov 2006, Johan Sandblom wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ locate metafun.mem /etc/texmf/web2c/metafun.mem /var/lib/texmf/web2c/metafun.mem The mem file in /etc/texmf/web2c seems VERY FISHY!!! Please remove it. Probably metapost loads a wrong metafun.mem file. Not necessarily. One might actually be a symbolic link to the other. Try the following to check this ls -l /etc/texmf/web2c/metafun.mem /var/lib/texmf/web2c/metafun.mem and just to make sure also: ls -ld /etc/texmf/web2c /var/lib/texmf/web2c They were not links. No idea where they came from. Removing them did not solve anything. The file used by TeX can actually found using: kpsewhich metafun.mem and gives here: /var/lib/texmf/web2c/metafun.mem [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ kpsewhich metafun.mem /var/lib/texmf/web2c/metafun.mem Regards, Johan Tobias -- Johan Sandblom N8, MRC, Karolinska sjh t +46851776108 17176 Stockholm m +46735521477 Sweden What is wanted is not the will to believe, but the will to find out, which is the exact opposite - Bertrand Russell ___ ntg-context mailing list ntg-context@ntg.nl http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
Re: [NTG-context] Debian/texlive/context: Segfault in mpost
Hi, Norbert Preining wrote: On Mit, 08 Nov 2006, Johan Sandblom wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ locate metafun.mem /etc/texmf/web2c/metafun.mem /var/lib/texmf/web2c/metafun.mem The mem file in /etc/texmf/web2c seems VERY FISHY!!! Please remove it. Probably metapost loads a wrong metafun.mem file. Not necessarily. One might actually be a symbolic link to the other. Try the following to check this ls -l /etc/texmf/web2c/metafun.mem /var/lib/texmf/web2c/metafun.mem and just to make sure also: ls -ld /etc/texmf/web2c /var/lib/texmf/web2c The file used by TeX can actually found using: kpsewhich metafun.mem and gives here: /var/lib/texmf/web2c/metafun.mem Tobias ___ ntg-context mailing list ntg-context@ntg.nl http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
Re: [NTG-context] Debian/texlive/context: Segfault in mpost
Hi, 2006/11/8, Norbert Preining [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Mit, 08 Nov 2006, Johan Sandblom wrote: texlive-metapost/testing uptodate 2005.dfsg.2-2 texlive-base/testing uptodate 2005.dfsg.2-3 texlive-common/testing uptodate 2005.dfsg.2-3 texlive-base-bin/testing uptodate 2005.dfsg.2-2 and the new context package from www.tug.org/texlive/Debian version 2006.08.08 the following text file processes without error but has no graphic Strange enough, on my computer I don't see this problem. The file contains the graphics. [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ mpost -progname=metafun -mem=metafun mptest-mpgraph.mp This is MetaPost, Version 0.901 (Web2C 7.5.5) (mptest-mpgraph.mpSegmentation fault [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ locate metafun.mem /etc/texmf/web2c/metafun.mem /var/lib/texmf/web2c/metafun.mem Maybe some other files in /etc/texmf/web2c are interfering. metapost pool files would be an idea. Can you send me the list of files in /etc/texmf/web2c? I have thee ONLY mktex.cnf!!! There were several other files, among them a highly suspicious plain.mem. However, removing all of them, and reinstalling the context debian package (and thereby rebuilding the formats) did not solve the problem. No new files ended up in /etc/texmf/web2c. Best wishes Norbert --- Dr. Norbert Preining [EMAIL PROTECTED]Università di Siena Debian Developer [EMAIL PROTECTED] Debian TeX Group gpg DSA: 0x09C5B094 fp: 14DF 2E6C 0307 BE6D AD76 A9C0 D2BF 4AA3 09C5 B094 --- DUNGENESS (n.) The uneasy feeling that the plastic handles of the overloaded supermarket carrier bag you are carrying are getting steadily longer. --- Douglas Adams, The Meaning of Liff -- Johan Sandblom N8, MRC, Karolinska sjh t +46851776108 17176 Stockholm m +46735521477 Sweden What is wanted is not the will to believe, but the will to find out, which is the exact opposite - Bertrand Russell ___ ntg-context mailing list ntg-context@ntg.nl http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
Re: [NTG-context] Debian/texlive/context: Segfault in mpost
2006/11/8, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Wed, Nov 08, 2006 at 07:01:00PM +0100, Johan Sandblom wrote: I did. No change. I suspect this is 'the' mismatched array bug in web2c. If you have both main_memory.mpost and|or main_memory.metafun in your texmf.cnf, and they are not the same value(s), then you can get segfaults (as well as various other bugs). No, that does not appear to be it: [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/etc/texmf# grep main_memory `kpsewhich texmf.cnf` % main_memory.hugetex = 2000 % main_memory is relevant only to initex, extra_mem_* only to non-ini. % Thus, have to redump the .fmt file after changing main_memory; to add main_memory = 100 % words of inimemory available; also applies to inimfmp main_memory.context = 150 main_memory.mpost = 150 main_memory.lambda = 220 It is hard to be more verbose right now because my connection is awful, but there should be some more info on this in the mailinglist archive. Greetings, Taco -- Johan Sandblom N8, MRC, Karolinska sjh t +46851776108 17176 Stockholm m +46735521477 Sweden What is wanted is not the will to believe, but the will to find out, which is the exact opposite - Bertrand Russell ___ ntg-context mailing list ntg-context@ntg.nl http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
Re: [NTG-context] Debian/texlive/context: Segfault in mpost
It was the crucial clue, however, since I found /usr/share/texmf-texlive/web2c/texmf.cnf and removed it, which solved the problem! Thank you all, Johan Sandblom 2006/11/8, Johan Sandblom [EMAIL PROTECTED]: 2006/11/8, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Wed, Nov 08, 2006 at 07:01:00PM +0100, Johan Sandblom wrote: I did. No change. I suspect this is 'the' mismatched array bug in web2c. If you have both main_memory.mpost and|or main_memory.metafun in your texmf.cnf, and they are not the same value(s), then you can get segfaults (as well as various other bugs). No, that does not appear to be it: [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/etc/texmf# grep main_memory `kpsewhich texmf.cnf` % main_memory.hugetex = 2000 % main_memory is relevant only to initex, extra_mem_* only to non-ini. % Thus, have to redump the .fmt file after changing main_memory; to add main_memory = 100 % words of inimemory available; also applies to inimfmp main_memory.context = 150 main_memory.mpost = 150 main_memory.lambda = 220 It is hard to be more verbose right now because my connection is awful, but there should be some more info on this in the mailinglist archive. Greetings, Taco -- Johan Sandblom N8, MRC, Karolinska sjh t +46851776108 17176 Stockholm m +46735521477 Sweden What is wanted is not the will to believe, but the will to find out, which is the exact opposite - Bertrand Russell -- Johan Sandblom N8, MRC, Karolinska sjh t +46851776108 17176 Stockholm m +46735521477 Sweden What is wanted is not the will to believe, but the will to find out, which is the exact opposite - Bertrand Russell ___ ntg-context mailing list ntg-context@ntg.nl http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
Re: [NTG-context] Debian/texlive/context: Segfault in mpost
On Wed, Nov 08, 2006 at 08:05:48PM +0100, Johan Sandblom wrote: main_memory = 100 % words of inimemory available; also applies to inimfmp main_memory.context = 150 main_memory.mpost = 150 please try deleting this line and see what happens. If that is not, then probably your executable is the problem (i cannot reproduce the crash otherwise, on linux nor windows) Good luck, Taco ___ ntg-context mailing list ntg-context@ntg.nl http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
Re: [NTG-context] new to ConTeXt
Thomas A. Schmitz wrote: On Nov 7, 2006, at 9:20 PM, Pablo Rodríguez wrote: For those ones who were newbies not so long ago or that come from a humanities background, which are the best documents to start learning ConTeXt? Difficult to answer this question because it's a bit vague. What kind of documents do you want to produce with ConTeXt? Articles, presentations, textbooks, lists, interactive screen documents? Many thanks, Thomas, for your reply. Maybe the issue here is that I want to learn how to do things in ConTeXt that I was able to do with LaTeX. But this may be the wrong approach to ConTeXt (because this might not be a good way to learn ConTeXt using LaTeX as the background example). I want ConTeXt to produce mainly articles and textbooks (after learning that it will be easy to figure out presentations). I know some references, but I don't know which are the best ones. BTW, are “ConTeXt, an excursion” and “ConTeXt the manual” good introductions to start with ConTeXt or are they (too) outdated? But to give you a few pointers that may or may not be useful: Thanks, they are useful. - The first stop would be the wiki http://wiki.contextgarden.net . There is a section called Sample documents that may be a good starting point. - You could have a look at recent issues of the PracTeX journal; there is some stuff about ConTeXt in there, and it should be good for beginners. - Of course, the Pragma website, but I guess you know that already. - Finally, for ancient Greek, there is the ancientgreek module http:// modules.contextgarden.net/t-greek which I find superior to all Greek typesetting in LaTeX (because I wrote the module). With this particular topic, I'm not sure whether I fully understand what you mean. For me, input and output must be Unicode (it is the best way to avoid problems) and this can be done with XeTeX. I don't know how good the integration with ConTeXt is, but for me and before LuaTeX is released in an stable version, XeTeX is the only way of dealing with fonts in TeX. Is there something in your Greek module that cannot be done with XeTeX? Don't hesitate to ask here when you have specific questions, but maybe that can get you started. I am a humanities guy and do all my work in ConTeXt... Actually, I knew that you were the person I wanted to ask about this. Some time ago, I read somewhere (on the web) that you switched to ConTeXt, after having to edit a book with Word. And then I discovered that you teach Classics at Bonn. Then, if the question is not too personal (it hope not, but sorry if it is): how did you learn ConTeXt? Only tinkering with already existing modules? Did you read any manuals? (Again, if this is not too personal, I assume that our interests in ConTeXt are similar, although I'm not a classicist and I don't belong to the academia) Thanks for your help, Pablo ___ ntg-context mailing list ntg-context@ntg.nl http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
Re: [NTG-context] Debian/texlive/context: Segfault in mpost
On Wed, Nov 08, 2006 at 07:01:00PM +0100, Johan Sandblom wrote: I did. No change. I suspect this is 'the' mismatched array bug in web2c. If you have both main_memory.mpost and|or main_memory.metafun in your texmf.cnf, and they are not the same value(s), then you can get segfaults (as well as various other bugs). It is hard to be more verbose right now because my connection is awful, but there should be some more info on this in the mailinglist archive. Greetings, Taco ___ ntg-context mailing list ntg-context@ntg.nl http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
Re: [NTG-context] new to ConTeXt
Aditya Mahajan wrote: On Tue, 7 Nov 2006, Pablo Rodríguez wrote: For those ones who were newbies not so long ago or that come from a humanities background, which are the best documents to start learning ConTeXt? There is also Berend de Boer's Latex in proper context that can help in the transition. http://articles.contextgarden.net/article/32 Thanks for the answer, Aditya. I have read it. It helps and it could be supplemented with http://wiki.contextgarden.net/From_LaTeX_to_ConTeXt (I guess there are some things not contained in the original article). Pablo ___ ntg-context mailing list ntg-context@ntg.nl http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
Re: [NTG-context] new to ConTeXt
nico wrote: On Tue, 7 Nov 2006, Pablo Rodríguez wrote: Thanks for your answer, Hans. Sorry for not answering before (these days I find myself installing a new computer and moving data into it). It seems that the task is more difficult than I thought (although x-contm.tex seems a very interesting example to begin with). Since this thread is also talking about some tools, I'll complete the list with dbcontext (http://dblatex.sf.net) on which I contribute, that translates DocBook to ConTeXt via XSL stylesheets. I guess that many aspects could be directly handled by context. Thanks for your answer. I know that XML can be converted to TeX/LaTeX/ConTeXt using XSL, but my XML is TEI (http://www.tei-c.org/) and not DocBook. If I would use XSL transformation, I guess it would be easier (at least for me) to adapt the already existing TEI-XML-LaTeX XSL files and adapt them to ConTeXt. I wonder (out of ignorance) whether this would be a better way than parsing the XML directly with ConTeXt. Thanks, Pablo ___ ntg-context mailing list ntg-context@ntg.nl http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
[NTG-context] the same old \column problem
Hans et al, did \column ever work or is it supposed to? I.e. I guess I should be able jump to the next column in \startcolumns ... \column % next column ... \stopcolumns Without the \column, it works only for longer paragraphs, but e.g. not with \startlines - I'm trying to typeset lyrics, and the column *always* breaks within a verse instead of between, even if all the verses have the same number of lines, so that it would be easily possible to balance cleanly. Greetlings from Lake Constance! Hraban --- http://www.fiee.net/texnique/ http://contextgarden.net http://www.cacert.org (I'm an assurer) ___ ntg-context mailing list ntg-context@ntg.nl http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
Re: [NTG-context] new to ConTeXt
On Nov 8, 2006, at 8:35 PM, Pablo Rodríguez wrote: Many thanks, Thomas, for your reply. Maybe the issue here is that I want to learn how to do things in ConTeXt that I was able to do with LaTeX. But this may be the wrong approach to ConTeXt (because this might not be a good way to learn ConTeXt using LaTeX as the background example). No, I think this approach is what many users do. As long as you don't insist that you want exactly the same syntax etc, as in LaTeX :-) I want ConTeXt to produce mainly articles and textbooks (after learning that it will be easy to figure out presentations). I know some references, but I don't know which are the best ones. BTW, are “ConTeXt, an excursion” and “ConTeXt the manual” good introductions to start with ConTeXt or are they (too) outdated? Most of the basic stuff is still correct, so they should be good starters. But to give you a few pointers that may or may not be useful: Thanks, they are useful. - The first stop would be the wiki http://wiki.contextgarden.net . There is a section called Sample documents that may be a good starting point. - You could have a look at recent issues of the PracTeX journal; there is some stuff about ConTeXt in there, and it should be good for beginners. - Of course, the Pragma website, but I guess you know that already. - Finally, for ancient Greek, there is the ancientgreek module http:// modules.contextgarden.net/t-greek which I find superior to all Greek typesetting in LaTeX (because I wrote the module). With this particular topic, I'm not sure whether I fully understand what you mean. For me, input and output must be Unicode (it is the best way to avoid problems) and this can be done with XeTeX. I don't know how good the integration with ConTeXt is, but for me and before LuaTeX is released in an stable version, XeTeX is the only way of dealing with fonts in TeX. Is there something in your Greek module that cannot be done with XeTeX? I must admit that I've been too lazy to really test XeTeX, so I may be wrong here. You can use Unicode input with the module; the only difference would be that you have to wrap all Greek passages in \localgreek{} commands or \start ... \stop pairs. I guess XeTeX provides proper hyphenation for Greek, but - the module has support for more fonts than XeTeX; - does XeTeX allow relative scaling of fonts? Anyway, only Hans and Taco know to what extent I will have to rewrite everything when luatex and support for OpenType fonts are there. Don't hesitate to ask here when you have specific questions, but maybe that can get you started. I am a humanities guy and do all my work in ConTeXt... Actually, I knew that you were the person I wanted to ask about this. Some time ago, I read somewhere (on the web) that you switched to ConTeXt, after having to edit a book with Word. And then I discovered that you teach Classics at Bonn. Then, if the question is not too personal (it hope not, but sorry if it is): how did you learn ConTeXt? Only tinkering with already existing modules? Did you read any manuals? (Again, if this is not too personal, I assume that our interests in ConTeXt are similar, although I'm not a classicist and I don't belong to the academia) Thanks for your help, Pablo Yes, I started with already existing modules, and it took me a while (and lots of help here on the list) to write my own code. I never actually read any manual cover to cover, but the big manual is almost always open on my computer for reference. I just finished typesetting a book with ConTeXt, complete with dozens of cross-references, indexes, bibliography. Nothing very complicated, but it's wonderful to see that things work. There are still two or three problems, but they are fairly harmless. I love donig my own presentation styles with ConTeXt and metafun. The more I use ConTeXt, the more amazed I am... Hope this can inspire you a bit Thomas ___ ntg-context mailing list ntg-context@ntg.nl http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
Re: [NTG-context] new to ConTeXt
On Wed, 08 Nov 2006 20:53:37 +0100, Pablo Rodríguez [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: nico wrote: On Tue, 7 Nov 2006, Pablo Rodríguez wrote: Thanks for your answer, Hans. Sorry for not answering before (these days I find myself installing a new computer and moving data into it). It seems that the task is more difficult than I thought (although x-contm.tex seems a very interesting example to begin with). Since this thread is also talking about some tools, I'll complete the list with dbcontext (http://dblatex.sf.net) on which I contribute, that translates DocBook to ConTeXt via XSL stylesheets. I guess that many aspects could be directly handled by context. Thanks for your answer. I know that XML can be converted to TeX/LaTeX/ConTeXt using XSL, but my XML is TEI (http://www.tei-c.org/) and not DocBook. If I would use XSL transformation, I guess it would be easier (at least for me) to adapt the already existing TEI-XML-LaTeX XSL files and adapt them to ConTeXt. I wonder (out of ignorance) whether this would be a better way than parsing the XML directly with ConTeXt. I have no experience with handling XML directly with context, but I guess it's the most elegant way of processing, since it relies upon only one tool (no XSLT processor, no stylesheet, no glue to pass the output to texexec), there is no intermediate step, and the code should be smaller. But for me the drawback is that you need a good perception about how context/tex works (things about grouping, how macros expand and other funny things) and debugging might be harder. At least XSL gives an output that you can tweak until something compiles and gives the expected output :-) The other thing is that there are some specific processings that I have no idea how it can be implemented with context. This said, I know there are many people who happily process their XML docs directly with context. Maybe they could also give their feedback. Regards, BG ___ ntg-context mailing list ntg-context@ntg.nl http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context