Re: [NTG-context] \use(sub)path
Guten Morgen Wolfgang, Am 03.11.2008 um 21:16 schrieb Wolfgang Schuster: Am 03.11.2008 um 14:30 schrieb Alan STONE: On Fri, Oct 31, 2008 at 3:28 PM, Alan STONE [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From what I've found... - ConTeXt searches files up in the directory tree - directories can be set with \usepath and/or \usesubpath I haven't found how both of the latter commands works though. Any hints would be most welcome. Thanks, Alan Hi, Speaking of paths... (1) What's ConTeXt's default path search depth ? Can it be modified and if so how ? (2) Still clueless about how to use usepath and usesubpath. Where are these documented ? Use the mail archive, this was answered a few times in the past. Wirklich? Daran bin ich auch gescheitert... Es gibt nur Verweise, aber keine wirkliche Erklärung/Beispiele. Deswegen habe ich mich ja neulich auch mit Frage zu \usesubpath an Dich gewandt. Steffen ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Problem with MkIV on texlive2008
2008/11/4 Marcin Borkowski [EMAIL PROTECTED] Dnia Tue, Nov 04, 2008 at 01:00:51AM +0100, luigi scarso napisa#322;(a): And one more question: texexec whatever.tex try $ pdffonts whatever.pdf So I'm doing: $ cat test-07.tex \starttext Hello world! \stoptext $ texexec test-07 (...) TeXExec | runtime: 3.723635 $ pdffonts test-07.pdf name type emb sub uni object ID - --- --- --- - KBKNLC+LMRoman12-Regular Type 1yes yes yes 4 0 $ context test-07 (...) MtxRun | total runtime: 11.478 $ pdffonts test-07.pdf name type emb sub uni object ID - --- --- --- - AIGPIG+LMRoman12-Regular CID Type 0C yes yes yes 4 0 Any ideas what to do so that it could look better in xpdf? On my logs, I see that mkii uses type1 while mkiv uses otf. Maybe this is the difference. -- luigi ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
[NTG-context] backgrounds: help needed
Hello,
I need some text with background, that can break across lines. But the
background must not touch the background of the next line!
\setupcolors[state=start]
\starttext
inframed does not allow linebreaks:
\def\Bla{\inframed[background=color, backgroundcolor=gray, frame=off,
offset=overlay, backgroundoffset=2pt, location=keep]{%
FF FF XX XX XX XX XX XX SS CS CS}}
\dorecurse{20}{bla \Bla\ bla}
And textbackground does not allow to seperate the backgrounds of 2 lines:
\definetextbackground[TG][backgroundcolor=gray, frame=off,
offset=overlay, backgroundoffset=2pt]
\def\Bla{\starttextbackground[TG]FF FF XX XX XX XX XX XX SS CS CS%
\stoptextbackground}
\dorecurse{20}{bla \Bla\ bla}
\stoptext
Could anybody help please?
TIA for any hints!
Cheer, Peter
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Re: [NTG-context] \use(sub)path
Wolfgang Schuster wrote: Am 03.11.2008 um 14:30 schrieb Alan STONE: On Fri, Oct 31, 2008 at 3:28 PM, Alan STONE [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From what I've found... - ConTeXt searches files up in the directory tree - directories can be set with \usepath and/or \usesubpath just \usepath[a,a/b,a/../x] and \usesubpath[graphics] etc subpaths are combined with paths on top of that context searched in . .. ../.. Hans - Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | fax: 038 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com | www.pragma-pod.nl - ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Minimals - problems with format: metafun.mp
Johannes Graumann wrote: No changes in error message. I attach the code that doesn't work like so: context --ctx=t-openoffice Attempt.odt runs ok here luigi scarso wrote: On Sun, Nov 2, 2008 at 7:53 PM, Johannes Graumann [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: Hello, In a bit to finally get Wolfgang's present to me (see XML thread somewhere) finally compiled, I update my minimals via the first-install.sh script and run luatools --generat context --make afterwards. Now I get the error below. Where might I err? Can you try these steps ? 1) cd /opt/ConTeXtMinimals 2) ./first-install.sh 3) cd tex 4) . setuptex 5) context --generate 6) context --make Here minimals is ok minimals Linux luigicasa-laptop 2.6.24-21-generic #1 SMP Tue Oct 21 23:43:45 UTC 2008 i686 GNU/Linux This is LuaTeX, Version snapshot-0.30.2-2008102016, build unknown ConTeXt MtxRun | current version: 2008.10.31 13:58 ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___ -- - Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | fax: 038 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com | www.pragma-pod.nl - ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
[NTG-context] MkII vs. MkIV
Hi, Is it normal that output from MkII and MkIV are different in terms of page breaks? Greets -- Marcin Borkowski (http://mbork.pl) - Why vim users don't use the ESC key? - It's too far on the keyboard. It's faster to type ctrl-[. ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] MkII vs. MkIV
On Tue, 4 Nov 2008, Marcin Borkowski wrote: Hi, Is it normal that output from MkII and MkIV are different in terms of page breaks? Yes. In MKII the interline space is hard coded. MKIV gets the interline space from the font. So, you will get different page breaks. I experienced around 2-5 pages difference in a 100 page document. Aditya ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Minimals - problems with format: metafun.mp
On Tue, Nov 4, 2008 at 1:28 PM, Hans Hagen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Johannes Graumann wrote: No changes in error message. I attach the code that doesn't work like so: context --ctx=t-openoffice Attempt.odt runs ok here hmm not here minimals-beta Linux luigicasa-laptop 2.6.24-21-generic #1 SMP Tue Oct 21 23:43:45 UTC 2008 i686 GNU/Linux This is LuaTeX, Version snapshot-0.30.2-2008102016, build unknown ConTeXt MtxRun | current version: 2008.11.03 09:22 minimalsBIRTHDAY Linux luigicasa-laptop 2.6.24-21-generic #1 SMP Tue Oct 21 23:43:45 UTC 2008 i686 GNU/Linux This is LuaTeX, Version snapshot-0.30.2-2008102016, build unknown ConTeXt MtxRun | current version: 2008.10.31 13:58 -- luigi ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] MkII vs. MkIV
Am 04.11.2008 um 21:20 schrieb Aditya Mahajan: On Tue, 4 Nov 2008, Marcin Borkowski wrote: Hi, Is it normal that output from MkII and MkIV are different in terms of page breaks? Yes. In MKII the interline space is hard coded. MKIV gets the interline space from the font. So, you will get different page breaks. I experienced around 2-5 pages difference in a 100 page document. The interlinespace in MkII and MkIV is the same and both use a distance of 2.8ex between the lines. One difference between the two engines are the used fonts, pdfTeX use type 1 fonts and luaTeX MkIV opentype fonts. Wolfgang ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] MkII vs. MkIV
Dnia Tue, Nov 04, 2008 at 09:41:43PM +0100, Wolfgang Schuster napisa#322;(a): Am 04.11.2008 um 21:20 schrieb Aditya Mahajan: On Tue, 4 Nov 2008, Marcin Borkowski wrote: Hi, Is it normal that output from MkII and MkIV are different in terms of page breaks? Yes. In MKII the interline space is hard coded. MKIV gets the interline space from the font. So, you will get different page breaks. I experienced around 2-5 pages difference in a 100 page document. The interlinespace in MkII and MkIV is the same and both use a distance of 2.8ex between the lines. One difference between the two engines are the used fonts, pdfTeX use type 1 fonts and luaTeX MkIV opentype fonts. Thank you for your prompt answers. I am a bit surprised, though, that the otf and Type1 Latin Modern fonts are not compatible. Strange thing. Seems it will be a good idea to stick to MkIV... Wolfgang ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___ -- Marcin Borkowski (http://mbork.pl) Stłumiony głos w końcu wypowie słowo prawdy - otworzą się usta! Prawda - choćby zdeptana - zawsze pozostanie prawdą! Żadna przemoc, chamstwo, kłamstwo nie uczynią z niej ofiary! (Izaiash) ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
[NTG-context] How to avoid a page break?
Hi,
I have the following in my code:
\def\doPutTitle#1{%
\startalignment[middle]
\bfb
\page[bigpreference]
\blank[2*big]
#1%
\page[no]%
\blank[big]%
\page[no]%
\stopalignment
\page[no]%
}%
Why is it still possible that I have a page break after, say,
\doPutTitle{some title} (in MkII, in MkIV page breaks fall in different
places). Which percentage signs and \page[no]'s are unnecessary here?
Also, how to avoid a page break right before an itemization? Adding
[intro] seems not to work.
And one more thing about pagebreaks: how to avoid a pagebreak right
before a \startformula ... \stopformula? And what is the ConTeXt way of
setting stretchable vertical glue (e.g. for \blank's, below itemizations
etc.)?
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Re: [NTG-context] How to avoid a page break?
Am 04.11.2008 um 21:21 schrieb Marcin Borkowski:
Hi,
I have the following in my code:
\def\doPutTitle#1{%
\startalignment[middle]
\bfb
\page[bigpreference]
\blank[2*big]
#1%
\page[no]%
\blank[big]%
\page[no]%
\stopalignment
\page[no]%
}%
Why is it still possible that I have a page break after, say,
\doPutTitle{some title} (in MkII, in MkIV page breaks fall in
different
places). Which percentage signs and \page[no]'s are unnecessary here?
\def\doPutTitle#1%
{\page[bigpreference]
\vbox\bgroup
\raggedcenter
#1%
\egroup
\nobreak\blank[big]}
Also, how to avoid a page break right before an itemization? Adding
[intro] seems not to work.
Example!
And one more thing about pagebreaks: how to avoid a pagebreak right
before a \startformula ... \stopformula? And what is the ConTeXt
way of
setting stretchable vertical glue (e.g. for \blank's, below
itemizations
etc.)?
\blank[ small | medium | big | ... ]
Wolfgang
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[NTG-context] Different footers for different parts of a project
Hi, yet another question from me;). I have a project divided into products divided into components. When I typeset a component, I want to get it's title (I keep it in a variable) in the footer. If I typeset the wqhole project, I want to have the pagenumber there instead. How do I do it? (I mean what to put in the environment/product/component code?) Greets -- Marcin Borkowski (http://mbork.pl) - Gandalf! A ja myślałem, że nie żyjesz. Co prawda o sobie też byłem tego zdania. Sam Gamgee ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Different footers for different parts of a project
Dnia Tue, Nov 04, 2008 at 10:37:26PM +0100, Wolfgang Schuster napisa#322;(a): Am 04.11.2008 um 22:01 schrieb Marcin Borkowski: Hi, yet another question from me;). I have a project divided into products divided into components. When I typeset a component, I want to get it's title (I keep it in a variable) in the footer. If I typeset the wqhole project, I want to have the pagenumber there instead. How do I do it? (I mean what to put in the environment/product/component code?) \startmode[*product] ... \stopmode \startnotmode[*product] ... \stopnotmode \startmode[*component] ... \stopmode Wow, thanks!!! Regards Wolfgang -- Marcin Borkowski (http://mbork.pl) ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] How to avoid a page break?
Dnia Tue, Nov 04, 2008 at 10:17:51PM +0100, Wolfgang Schuster napisa#322;(a):
Am 04.11.2008 um 21:21 schrieb Marcin Borkowski:
Hi,
I have the following in my code:
\def\doPutTitle#1{%
\startalignment[middle]
\bfb
\page[bigpreference]
\blank[2*big]
#1%
\page[no]%
\blank[big]%
\page[no]%
\stopalignment
\page[no]%
}%
Why is it still possible that I have a page break after, say,
\doPutTitle{some title} (in MkII, in MkIV page breaks fall in
different
places). Which percentage signs and \page[no]'s are unnecessary here?
\def\doPutTitle#1%
{\page[bigpreference]
\vbox\bgroup
\raggedcenter
#1%
\egroup
\nobreak\blank[big]}
OK, though this looks rather low-level. I was thinking about something
more user-friendly;).
This raises a philosophical question: is it the ConTeXt way to use
low-level constructs in environments and high-level in documents? Or is
it better to avoid low level whenever possible? Also, your code mixes
low-level commands (\vbox, which is a TeX prmitive, \raggedcenter, which
is a ConTeXt low-level command, I guess) and high-level ones (\blank).
I understand that this ensures a uniform vertical spacing (\blank[big]
is obviously better than \vskip 10pt;)), but I thought that it is
against ConTeXt philosophy to use low-level stuff unless something
really non-standard is needed.
Also, how to avoid a page break right before an itemization? Adding
[intro] seems not to work.
Example!
Sorry, I haven't provided one. Here you are.
\starttext
\dorecurse{12}{%
This is some intro (\recurselevel).
\startitemize[n,packed,joinedup,columns,two,intro]
\dorecurse{8}{\item This is an item.}
\stopitemize
}%
\stoptext
(strange things happen both in MkII and MkIV in the online ConTeXt!)
And one more thing about pagebreaks: how to avoid a pagebreak right
before a \startformula ... \stopformula? And what is the ConTeXt
way of
setting stretchable vertical glue (e.g. for \blank's, below
itemizations
etc.)?
\blank[ small | medium | big | ... ]
But how do I control the stretchability?
Wolfgang
Greets
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Re: [NTG-context] MkII vs. MkIV
Thank you for your prompt answers. I am a bit surprised, though, that the otf and Type1 Latin Modern fonts are not compatible. Strange thing. You should come to BachoTeX. In 2007 Jerzy Ludwichowski and Bogusław Jackowski started their talk about TeX Gyre by screaming Full compatibility means no progress! at the audience :-) Arthur ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Different footers for different parts of a project
Dnia Tue, Nov 04, 2008 at 10:37:26PM +0100, Wolfgang Schuster napisa#322;(a): Am 04.11.2008 um 22:01 schrieb Marcin Borkowski: Hi, yet another question from me;). I have a project divided into products divided into components. When I typeset a component, I want to get it's title (I keep it in a variable) in the footer. If I typeset the wqhole project, I want to have the pagenumber there instead. How do I do it? (I mean what to put in the environment/product/component code?) \startmode[*product] ... \stopmode And: is there a corresponding \startmode[*project] ... \stopmode construct? Greets -- Marcin Borkowski (http://mbork.pl) Jest tak. Friedman ma weksel Schapira z żyrem Glasa i windykator jest Balenstein. On daje dwadzieścia pięć procent franko loko, towar jest u Lutmana, tylko ten towar jest zajęty przez Honigmana z powodu weksel Roitberga. Za ten weksel Roitberga można dostać gwarancję od jego teścia Rozenzweiga, tylko on jest przepisany na Rozenzweigową, a Rozenzweigowa jest chora. (Kabaret Dudek) ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] MkII vs. MkIV
Dnia Tue, Nov 04, 2008 at 10:06:13PM +0100, Arthur Reutenauer napisa#322;(a): Thank you for your prompt answers. I am a bit surprised, though, that the otf and Type1 Latin Modern fonts are not compatible. Strange thing. You should come to BachoTeX. In 2007 Jerzy Ludwichowski and Bogusław Jackowski started their talk about TeX Gyre by screaming Full compatibility means no progress! at the audience :-) I know that, I read some of the GUST people papers;). I thought, however, that it wouldn't influence my documents *so much*;). Coming to Bachotek in 2008 is impossible for me (as I already wrote, I guess): me and my wife will celebrate our 5th wedding anniversary:). Maybe in 2009... Arthur Greets -- Marcin Borkowski (http://mbork.pl) 888 * ostre słowa * ostra muzyka * ostra płyta ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] MkII vs. MkIV
Am 04.11.2008 um 22:51 schrieb Marcin Borkowski: Dnia Tue, Nov 04, 2008 at 10:06:13PM +0100, Arthur Reutenauer napisa#322;(a): Thank you for your prompt answers. I am a bit surprised, though, that the otf and Type1 Latin Modern fonts are not compatible. Strange thing. You should come to BachoTeX. In 2007 Jerzy Ludwichowski and Bogusław Jackowski started their talk about TeX Gyre by screaming Full compatibility means no progress! at the audience :-) I know that, I read some of the GUST people papers;). I thought, however, that it wouldn't influence my documents *so much*;). LuaTeX did not always behave like pdfTeX and if you want the same result in your document as in the past, don't switch. The different code for MkII and MkIV are another reason for different output in a few cases. Wolfgang ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Different footers for different parts of a project
Am 04.11.2008 um 22:44 schrieb Marcin Borkowski: Dnia Tue, Nov 04, 2008 at 10:37:26PM +0100, Wolfgang Schuster napisa#322;(a): Am 04.11.2008 um 22:01 schrieb Marcin Borkowski: Hi, yet another question from me;). I have a project divided into products divided into components. When I typeset a component, I want to get it's title (I keep it in a variable) in the footer. If I typeset the wqhole project, I want to have the pagenumber there instead. How do I do it? (I mean what to put in the environment/product/component code?) \startmode[*product] ... \stopmode And: is there a corresponding \startmode[*project] ... \stopmode construct? Yes. Wolfgang ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] MkII vs. MkIV
Dnia Tue, Nov 04, 2008 at 11:02:13PM +0100, Wolfgang Schuster napisa#322;(a): Am 04.11.2008 um 22:51 schrieb Marcin Borkowski: Dnia Tue, Nov 04, 2008 at 10:06:13PM +0100, Arthur Reutenauer napisa#322;(a): Thank you for your prompt answers. I am a bit surprised, though, that the otf and Type1 Latin Modern fonts are not compatible. Strange thing. You should come to BachoTeX. In 2007 Jerzy Ludwichowski and Bogusław Jackowski started their talk about TeX Gyre by screaming Full compatibility means no progress! at the audience :-) I know that, I read some of the GUST people papers;). I thought, however, that it wouldn't influence my documents *so much*;). LuaTeX did not always behave like pdfTeX and if you want the same result in your document as in the past, don't switch. The different code for MkII and MkIV are another reason for different output in a few cases. Well, since I'm really a beginner, I don't have much ConTeXt documents. So I guess the sooner I switch, the better - especially that MkIV is better for my itemizations;). Wolfgang Greets -- Marcin Borkowski (http://mbork.pl) 888 * Nie lękaj się * Ja zawsze będę z Tobą! ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] How to avoid a page break?
Am 04.11.2008 um 22:39 schrieb Marcin Borkowski:
Dnia Tue, Nov 04, 2008 at 10:17:51PM +0100, Wolfgang Schuster
napisa#322;(a):
Am 04.11.2008 um 21:21 schrieb Marcin Borkowski:
Hi,
I have the following in my code:
\def\doPutTitle#1{%
\startalignment[middle]
\bfb
\page[bigpreference]
\blank[2*big]
#1%
\page[no]%
\blank[big]%
\page[no]%
\stopalignment
\page[no]%
}%
Why is it still possible that I have a page break after, say,
\doPutTitle{some title} (in MkII, in MkIV page breaks fall in
different
places). Which percentage signs and \page[no]'s are unnecessary
here?
\def\doPutTitle#1%
{\page[bigpreference]
\vbox\bgroup
\raggedcenter
#1%
\egroup
\nobreak\blank[big]}
OK, though this looks rather low-level. I was thinking about
something
more user-friendly;).
This raises a philosophical question: is it the ConTeXt way to use
low-level constructs in environments and high-level in documents?
Or is
it better to avoid low level whenever possible? Also, your code mixes
low-level commands (\vbox, which is a TeX prmitive, \raggedcenter,
which
is a ConTeXt low-level command, I guess) and high-level ones (\blank).
I understand that this ensures a uniform vertical spacing (\blank[big]
is obviously better than \vskip 10pt;)), but I thought that it is
against ConTeXt philosophy to use low-level stuff unless something
really non-standard is needed.
Here is a better method, there is nothing wrong with low level but
you should know what you do.
\defineblankmethod [nobreak] {\nobreak}
\def\doPutTitle#1%
{\framed[frame=offwidth=\textwidth,align=middle]{#1}%
\blank[nobreak,line]}
Wolfgang
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Re: [NTG-context] \use(sub)path
Pressing Reply sometimes goes faster than checking the receivers adress ;o) Obviously, this should have been adressed to Wolfgang personally, apologies for spoiling the list with non-international postings! Nevertheless, Wolfgang received my appeal and tries to write a summary on this \use(sub)path issue (plus example) for the wiki. Stay tuned! Steffen Am 04.11.2008 um 09:22 schrieb Steffen Wolfrum: Guten Morgen Wolfgang, Am 03.11.2008 um 21:16 schrieb Wolfgang Schuster: Am 03.11.2008 um 14:30 schrieb Alan STONE: On Fri, Oct 31, 2008 at 3:28 PM, Alan STONE [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From what I've found... - ConTeXt searches files up in the directory tree - directories can be set with \usepath and/or \usesubpath I haven't found how both of the latter commands works though. Any hints would be most welcome. Thanks, Alan Hi, Speaking of paths... (1) What's ConTeXt's default path search depth ? Can it be modified and if so how ? (2) Still clueless about how to use usepath and usesubpath. Where are these documented ? Use the mail archive, this was answered a few times in the past. Wirklich? Daran bin ich auch gescheitert... Es gibt nur Verweise, aber keine wirkliche Erklärung/Beispiele. Deswegen habe ich mich ja neulich auch mit Frage zu \usesubpath an Dich gewandt. Steffen ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___ ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] How to avoid a page break?
Dnia Tue, Nov 04, 2008 at 11:25:17PM +0100, Wolfgang Schuster napisa#322;(a):
Am 04.11.2008 um 22:39 schrieb Marcin Borkowski:
Dnia Tue, Nov 04, 2008 at 10:17:51PM +0100, Wolfgang Schuster
napisa#322;(a):
Am 04.11.2008 um 21:21 schrieb Marcin Borkowski:
Hi,
I have the following in my code:
\def\doPutTitle#1{%
\startalignment[middle]
\bfb
\page[bigpreference]
\blank[2*big]
#1%
\page[no]%
\blank[big]%
\page[no]%
\stopalignment
\page[no]%
}%
Why is it still possible that I have a page break after, say,
\doPutTitle{some title} (in MkII, in MkIV page breaks fall in
different
places). Which percentage signs and \page[no]'s are unnecessary
here?
\def\doPutTitle#1%
{\page[bigpreference]
\vbox\bgroup
\raggedcenter
#1%
\egroup
\nobreak\blank[big]}
OK, though this looks rather low-level. I was thinking about
something
more user-friendly;).
This raises a philosophical question: is it the ConTeXt way to use
low-level constructs in environments and high-level in documents?
Or is
it better to avoid low level whenever possible? Also, your code mixes
low-level commands (\vbox, which is a TeX prmitive, \raggedcenter,
which
is a ConTeXt low-level command, I guess) and high-level ones (\blank).
I understand that this ensures a uniform vertical spacing (\blank[big]
is obviously better than \vskip 10pt;)), but I thought that it is
against ConTeXt philosophy to use low-level stuff unless something
really non-standard is needed.
Here is a better method, there is nothing wrong with low level but
you should know what you do.
Yes, that's obvious. But high-level is better in one thing: when I want
to teach ConTeXt to non-TeX-maniacs;), it's the only possibility.
\defineblankmethod [nobreak] {\nobreak}
\def\doPutTitle#1%
{\framed[frame=offwidth=\textwidth,align=middle]{#1}%
\blank[nobreak,line]}
OK, that's very nice, apart from the thing that the only two ways of
learning it are: (1) studying sources or (2) asking here. Also, the
trick with \framed[frame=off,...] is neat, but I still don't get it: why
my \startalignment[middle] didn't work? And how does exactly
\blank[something] work?
Don't think I need these answers *now*. But it would be nice to
understand ConTeXt a bit some day...
You know, with plain TeX it's relatively easy to understand
*everything* - it's so small and, well, primitive;). With LaTeX things
get messy, but still I can read the sources - they are very plainy, I
mean LaTeX does not have so much UI for developers/package/class
writers, so it's not *that* difficult to understand parts of source
code. But ConTeXt baffles me a lot. I guess that reading sources is
the only remedy - but I don't have enough time now... But some day, I
*will* understand this;).
Wolfgang
PS. Wolfgang, can I still subscribe to your fan club? Do I get a free
t-shirt;)?
Greets
--
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two groups and those who can't.
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Re: [NTG-context] Different footers for different parts of a project
Dnia Tue, Nov 04, 2008 at 10:58:32PM +0100, Wolfgang Schuster napisa#322;(a): Am 04.11.2008 um 22:44 schrieb Marcin Borkowski: Dnia Tue, Nov 04, 2008 at 10:37:26PM +0100, Wolfgang Schuster napisa#322;(a): Am 04.11.2008 um 22:01 schrieb Marcin Borkowski: Hi, yet another question from me;). I have a project divided into products divided into components. When I typeset a component, I want to get it's title (I keep it in a variable) in the footer. If I typeset the wqhole project, I want to have the pagenumber there instead. How do I do it? (I mean what to put in the environment/product/component code?) \startmode[*product] ... \stopmode And: is there a corresponding \startmode[*project] ... \stopmode construct? Yes. Yes, that's right. However, it won't work wrt. arranging. If I put \setuppapersize[A5][A4] \setuparranging[2UP,rotated] within \startmode[*project] ... \stopmode I have still to repeat \setuparranging[normal] within \startmode[*product] ... \stopmode etc. Is it a bug or a feature? (Seems a bug for me;).) Wolfgang Greets -- Marcin Borkowski (http://mbork.pl) - Why are vim users so terribly egocentric? - Because they begin every sentence with `I'. ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] How to avoid a page break?
Am 04.11.2008 um 23:42 schrieb Marcin Borkowski:
Dnia Tue, Nov 04, 2008 at 11:25:17PM +0100, Wolfgang Schuster
napisa#322;(a):
Am 04.11.2008 um 22:39 schrieb Marcin Borkowski:
Dnia Tue, Nov 04, 2008 at 10:17:51PM +0100, Wolfgang Schuster
napisa#322;(a):
Am 04.11.2008 um 21:21 schrieb Marcin Borkowski:
Hi,
I have the following in my code:
\def\doPutTitle#1{%
\startalignment[middle]
\bfb
\page[bigpreference]
\blank[2*big]
#1%
\page[no]%
\blank[big]%
\page[no]%
\stopalignment
\page[no]%
}%
Why is it still possible that I have a page break after, say,
\doPutTitle{some title} (in MkII, in MkIV page breaks fall in
different
places). Which percentage signs and \page[no]'s are unnecessary
here?
\def\doPutTitle#1%
{\page[bigpreference]
\vbox\bgroup
\raggedcenter
#1%
\egroup
\nobreak\blank[big]}
OK, though this looks rather low-level. I was thinking about
something
more user-friendly;).
This raises a philosophical question: is it the ConTeXt way to use
low-level constructs in environments and high-level in documents?
Or is
it better to avoid low level whenever possible? Also, your code
mixes
low-level commands (\vbox, which is a TeX prmitive, \raggedcenter,
which
is a ConTeXt low-level command, I guess) and high-level ones
(\blank).
I understand that this ensures a uniform vertical spacing
(\blank[big]
is obviously better than \vskip 10pt;)), but I thought that it is
against ConTeXt philosophy to use low-level stuff unless something
really non-standard is needed.
Here is a better method, there is nothing wrong with low level but
you should know what you do.
Yes, that's obvious. But high-level is better in one thing: when I
want
to teach ConTeXt to non-TeX-maniacs;), it's the only possibility.
\defineblankmethod [nobreak] {\nobreak}
\def\doPutTitle#1%
{\framed[frame=offwidth=\textwidth,align=middle]{#1}%
\blank[nobreak,line]}
OK, that's very nice, apart from the thing that the only two ways of
learning it are: (1) studying sources or (2) asking here. Also, the
trick with \framed[frame=off,...] is neat, but I still don't get it:
why
my \startalignment[middle] didn't work? And how does exactly
\blank[something] work?
Don't think I need these answers *now*. But it would be nice to
understand ConTeXt a bit some day...
You know, with plain TeX it's relatively easy to understand
*everything* - it's so small and, well, primitive;). With LaTeX
things
get messy, but still I can read the sources - they are very
plainy, I
mean LaTeX does not have so much UI for developers/package/class
writers, so it's not *that* difficult to understand parts of source
code. But ConTeXt baffles me a lot. I guess that reading sources is
the only remedy - but I don't have enough time now... But some day, I
*will* understand this;).
Wolfgang
PS. Wolfgang, can I still subscribe to your fan club? Do I get a free
t-shirt;)?
Ask Mojca, she has the shirts.
Wolfgang
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Re: [NTG-context] Different footers for different parts of a project
Am 04.11.2008 um 23:47 schrieb Marcin Borkowski: Dnia Tue, Nov 04, 2008 at 10:58:32PM +0100, Wolfgang Schuster napisa#322;(a): Am 04.11.2008 um 22:44 schrieb Marcin Borkowski: Dnia Tue, Nov 04, 2008 at 10:37:26PM +0100, Wolfgang Schuster napisa#322;(a): Am 04.11.2008 um 22:01 schrieb Marcin Borkowski: Hi, yet another question from me;). I have a project divided into products divided into components. When I typeset a component, I want to get it's title (I keep it in a variable) in the footer. If I typeset the wqhole project, I want to have the pagenumber there instead. How do I do it? (I mean what to put in the environment/product/component code?) \startmode[*product] ... \stopmode And: is there a corresponding \startmode[*project] ... \stopmode construct? Yes. Yes, that's right. However, it won't work wrt. arranging. If I put \setuppapersize[A5][A4] \setuparranging[2UP,rotated] within \startmode[*project] ... \stopmode I have still to repeat \setuparranging[normal] within \startmode[*product] ... \stopmode etc. Is it a bug or a feature? (Seems a bug for me;).) I guess you missed something in your files, it works for me. Wolfgang ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Different footers for different parts of a project
Dnia Wed, Nov 05, 2008 at 12:00:30AM +0100, Wolfgang Schuster napisa#322;(a): Am 04.11.2008 um 23:47 schrieb Marcin Borkowski: Dnia Tue, Nov 04, 2008 at 10:58:32PM +0100, Wolfgang Schuster napisa#322;(a): Am 04.11.2008 um 22:44 schrieb Marcin Borkowski: Dnia Tue, Nov 04, 2008 at 10:37:26PM +0100, Wolfgang Schuster napisa#322;(a): Am 04.11.2008 um 22:01 schrieb Marcin Borkowski: Hi, yet another question from me;). I have a project divided into products divided into components. When I typeset a component, I want to get it's title (I keep it in a variable) in the footer. If I typeset the wqhole project, I want to have the pagenumber there instead. How do I do it? (I mean what to put in the environment/product/component code?) \startmode[*product] ... \stopmode And: is there a corresponding \startmode[*project] ... \stopmode construct? Yes. Yes, that's right. However, it won't work wrt. arranging. If I put \setuppapersize[A5][A4] \setuparranging[2UP,rotated] within \startmode[*project] ... \stopmode I have still to repeat \setuparranging[normal] within \startmode[*product] ... \stopmode etc. Is it a bug or a feature? (Seems a bug for me;).) I guess you missed something in your files, it works for me. So here are my files: env.tex: == \environment env \startmode[*project] \setupheadertexts[Project] \setuppapersize[A5][A4] \setuparranging[2UP,rotated] \stopmode \startmode[*product] \setupheadertexts[Product] \stopmode \startmode[*component] \setupheadertexts[Component] \stopmode == project.tex: == \startproject project \environment env \product product \stopproject == product.tex: == \startproduct product \project project \component component \stopproduct == component.tex: == \startcomponent component \project project Hello component! \blank \input tufte \blank \input knuth \stopcomponent == So that only the whole project should be typest 2-up - but everything gets arranged that way... Wolfgang Greets -- Marcin Borkowski (http://mbork.pl) Ty okryłeś śmierć wstydem! Wtrąciłeś piekło w żałobę! Uderzyłeś niegodziwość, Niesprawiedliwość pozbawiłeś potomstwa! ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] MkII vs. MkIV
On Tue, 4 Nov 2008, Wolfgang Schuster wrote: Am 04.11.2008 um 21:20 schrieb Aditya Mahajan: On Tue, 4 Nov 2008, Marcin Borkowski wrote: Hi, Is it normal that output from MkII and MkIV are different in terms of page breaks? Yes. In MKII the interline space is hard coded. MKIV gets the interline space from the font. So, you will get different page breaks. I experienced around 2-5 pages difference in a 100 page document. The interlinespace in MkII and MkIV is the same and both use a distance of 2.8ex between the lines. Yes, but ex means different dimensions in pdftex and luatex. For example \starttext 1ex = \the\dimexpr1ex\relax \crlf 2.8ex = \the\dimexpr2.8ex\relax \stoptext gives in MKII 1ex = 5.16667pt 2.8ex = 14.46669pt and in MKIV gives 1ex = 5.172pt 2.8ex = 14.4816pt The reason is that what ex means is hardcoded in MKII but MKIV gets this info from the font. For example, if I use palatino at 12pt, the result in MKII does not change, but MKIV gives 1ex = 5.388pt 2.8ex = 15.08641pt So, depending on the font, MKII and MKIV can have considerably different lines per page. Aditya ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Different footers for different parts of a project
On Wed, 5 Nov 2008, Marcin Borkowski wrote: So that only the whole project should be typest 2-up - but everything gets arranged that way... This (project/product/... structure) is one area where I haven't kept track with the changes done in MKIV. However, in MKII one was not supposed to compile a project. See http://archive.contextgarden.net/message/20060403.083040.fadab315.en.html and the follow-ups. Aditya ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Different footers for different parts of a project
Dnia Tue, Nov 04, 2008 at 10:30:35PM -0500, Aditya Mahajan napisa#322;(a): On Wed, 5 Nov 2008, Marcin Borkowski wrote: So that only the whole project should be typest 2-up - but everything gets arranged that way... This (project/product/... structure) is one area where I haven't kept track with the changes done in MKIV. However, in MKII one was not supposed to compile a project. See http://archive.contextgarden.net/message/20060403.083040.fadab315.en.html and the follow-ups. Hm. Good to know. I'll have to repack my files a bit - I thought compiling the project is ok... Aditya Greets -- Marcin Borkowski (http://mbork.pl) Ja nie chcę czytać tych głupich gazet I wymyślonych oglądać historii. (Chili My) ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Different footers for different parts of a project
Am 05.11.2008 um 01:00 schrieb Marcin Borkowski: Dnia Wed, Nov 05, 2008 at 12:00:30AM +0100, Wolfgang Schuster napisa#322;(a): Am 04.11.2008 um 23:47 schrieb Marcin Borkowski: Dnia Tue, Nov 04, 2008 at 10:58:32PM +0100, Wolfgang Schuster napisa#322;(a): Am 04.11.2008 um 22:44 schrieb Marcin Borkowski: Dnia Tue, Nov 04, 2008 at 10:37:26PM +0100, Wolfgang Schuster napisa#322;(a): Am 04.11.2008 um 22:01 schrieb Marcin Borkowski: Hi, yet another question from me;). I have a project divided into products divided into components. When I typeset a component, I want to get it's title (I keep it in a variable) in the footer. If I typeset the wqhole project, I want to have the pagenumber there instead. How do I do it? (I mean what to put in the environment/product/component code?) \startmode[*product] ... \stopmode And: is there a corresponding \startmode[*project] ... \stopmode construct? Yes. Yes, that's right. However, it won't work wrt. arranging. If I put \setuppapersize[A5][A4] \setuparranging[2UP,rotated] within \startmode[*project] ... \stopmode I have still to repeat \setuparranging[normal] within \startmode[*product] ... \stopmode etc. Is it a bug or a feature? (Seems a bug for me;).) I guess you missed something in your files, it works for me. So here are my files: env.tex: == \environment env \startmode[*project] \setupheadertexts[Project] \setuppapersize[A5][A4] \setuparranging[2UP,rotated] \stopmode \startmode[*product] \setupheadertexts[Product] \stopmode \startmode[*component] \setupheadertexts[Component] \stopmode == project.tex: == \startproject project \environment env \product product \stopproject == product.tex: == \startproduct product \project project \component component \stopproduct == component.tex: == \startcomponent component \project project Hello component! \blank \input tufte \blank \input knuth \stopcomponent == So that only the whole project should be typest 2-up - but everything gets arranged that way... The project file is loaded from the product and the component and both enable then the project mode. See also Adityas mail and use \startmode[*product] and \startnotmode[*product]. Wolfgang ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] How to avoid a page break?
Ask Mojca, she has the shirts. Wolfgang Well, on my calendar, 31 October is (also) San Volfgango (St. Wolfgang) -- luigi ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Different footers for different parts of a project
2008/11/5 Marcin Borkowski [EMAIL PROTECTED] I thought compiling the project is ok... Hmmm... That's what I also understood from the main manual, chapter 2, and it worked fine so far. However, from reading this thread, I guess it will lead problems later on. So back to the drawing board. -- Best, Alan * TeX engine = LuaTeX * ConTeXt minimals ver: 2008.10.31 13:58 MKIV fmt: 2008.10.31 int: english/english * Ubuntu 8.04 Hardy Heron ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
