Re: [NTG-context] Seeking a Deeper ConTeXt: Questions for Initializing

On Tue, May 26, 2009 at 7:07 PM, Bruce D'Arcus wrote: > John Haltiwanger gmail.com> writes: > > [...] > > > Markdown with RDFa on the side will suit quite nicely, thanks to pandoc. > > Actually, you can embed the RDFa within the markdown files if you like. > > > > # Introduction > > Test. > > >

Re: [NTG-context] Seeking a Deeper ConTeXt: Questions for Initializing

John Haltiwanger gmail.com> writes: [...] > Markdown with RDFa on the side will suit quite nicely, thanks to pandoc. Actually, you can embed the RDFa within the markdown files if you like. # Introduction Test. Pandoc will just pass it on to the output XHTML (though throw it out for the

Re: [NTG-context] Seeking a Deeper ConTeXt: Questions for Initializing

Am 25.05.2009 um 22:25 schrieb Mohamed Bana: i tend to write in Markdown, as the syntax is very light weight, then compile with pandoc (http://johnmacfarlane.net/pandoc/). $ pandoc --toc --smart --number-sections --standalone -H header.tex - w context file.pdc -o file.tex $ texexec file.te

Re: [NTG-context] Seeking a Deeper ConTeXt: Questions for Initializing

On Tue, May 26, 2009 at 11:26 PM, John Haltiwanger < john.haltiwan...@gmail.com> wrote: > > >> >> In any case, I'd worry less about the technology, and more about what you >> need >> from it. That will make it easier to figure out which approach is best. >> >> Bruce >> >> >> > Markdown with RDFa o

Re: [NTG-context] Seeking a Deeper ConTeXt: Questions for Initializing

> > > In any case, I'd worry less about the technology, and more about what you > need > from it. That will make it easier to figure out which approach is best. > > Bruce > > > Markdown with RDFa on the side will suit quite nicely, thanks to pandoc. The desire for semantical documents sounds like i

Re: [NTG-context] Seeking a Deeper ConTeXt: Questions for Initializing

> well , if you give us some hints maybe > someone will present an article at next context meeting ... If you're interested in Tagged PDF, you should really look into what the River Valley guys are doing on the mailing-list I mentioned, and contact Ross Moore, Han The Thanh, etc. http:/

Re: [NTG-context] Seeking a Deeper ConTeXt: Questions for Initializing

luigi scarso wrote: well , if you give us some hints maybe someone will present an article at next context meeting ... (1) wait for the rewritten backend (next year) (2) wait till structure in mkiv is stable but indeed we can discuss these things at the upcoming context meeting Hans --

Re: [NTG-context] Seeking a Deeper ConTeXt: Questions for Initializing

On Mon, May 25, 2009 at 8:55 PM, Hans Hagen wrote: > John Haltiwanger wrote: > >> On Mon, May 25, 2009 at 2:00 PM, Arthur Reutenauer < >> arthur.reutena...@normalesup.org> wrote: >> >>Since Arthur implies that an XML output might one day be feasible, >>> Note that the f

Re: [NTG-context] Seeking a Deeper ConTeXt: Questions for Initializing

Wow, that is handy! Thanks for the tip Modamed. On Mon, May 25, 2009 at 4:25 PM, Mohamed Bana wrote: > i tend to write in Markdown, as the syntax is very light weight, then > compile with pandoc (http://johnmacfarlane.net/pandoc/). > > $ pandoc --toc --smart --number-sections --standalone -H head

Re: [NTG-context] Seeking a Deeper ConTeXt: Questions for Initializing

i tend to write in Markdown, as the syntax is very light weight, then compile with pandoc (http://johnmacfarlane.net/pandoc/). $ pandoc --toc --smart --number-sections --standalone -H header.tex -w context file.pdc -o file.tex $ texexec file.tex i think Aditya has some documents floating arou

Re: [NTG-context] Seeking a Deeper ConTeXt: Questions for Initializing

John Haltiwanger wrote: On Mon, May 25, 2009 at 2:00 PM, Arthur Reutenauer < arthur.reutena...@normalesup.org> wrote: Since Arthur implies that an XML output might one day be feasible, Note that the final estimate for the stable release of LuaTeX is 2012, but the backend featu

Re: [NTG-context] Seeking a Deeper ConTeXt: Questions for Initializing

Thank you Aditya. All that makes sense to me. It is quite clear from everyone's responses that the person on c.t.t who claimed ConTeXt is "only" for one-offs was not correct. On Mon, May 25, 2009 at 2:26 PM, Aditya Mahajan wrote: > On Mon, 25 May 2009, John Haltiwanger wrote: > > unlike documen

Re: [NTG-context] Seeking a Deeper ConTeXt: Questions for Initializing

On Mon, 25 May 2009, John Haltiwanger wrote: unlike document classes), there are no pre-rolled environments available. I am thinking here of standardized thesis environments for universities, or a There are no standardized thesis styles for universities mainly because there are no consistent

Re: [NTG-context] Seeking a Deeper ConTeXt: Questions for Initializing

Yes, that is the comment. Thank you for the heads up :) On Mon, May 25, 2009 at 2:21 PM, Arthur Reutenauer < arthur.reutena...@normalesup.org> wrote: > > Nice, glad to hear it. Also of interest are new semantic tagging > facilities > > for PDF in the newest proposal for ISO 32000, mentioned by an

Re: [NTG-context] Seeking a Deeper ConTeXt: Questions for Initializing

> Nice, glad to hear it. Also of interest are new semantic tagging facilities > for PDF in the newest proposal for ISO 32000, mentioned by an Adobe engineer > in the comments of this blog entry > http://digitalcuration.blogspot.com/2009/04/semantically-richer-pdf.html If you mean Leonard Rosenth

Re: [NTG-context] Seeking a Deeper ConTeXt: Questions for Initializing

On Mon, May 25, 2009 at 2:00 PM, Arthur Reutenauer < arthur.reutena...@normalesup.org> wrote: > >Since Arthur implies that an XML output might one day be > > feasible, > > Note that the final estimate for the stable release of LuaTeX is 2012, > but the backend features may be ava

Re: [NTG-context] Seeking a Deeper ConTeXt: Questions for Initializing

>Since Arthur implies that an XML output might one day be > feasible, Note that the final estimate for the stable release of LuaTeX is 2012, but the backend features may be available sooner. Many people are looking forward to using LuaTeX for producing XML-based and other format

Re: [NTG-context] Seeking a Deeper ConTeXt: Questions for Initializing

Thank you Arthur, Mohamed, and Hans for pointing me towards the available modules. As far as working towards semantical documents in TeX, I'll just have to settle for writing external RDF descriptors for the documents. I'll take a look at using XML as the source and feeding it into ConTeXt, but si

Re: [NTG-context] Seeking a Deeper ConTeXt: Questions for Initializing

John Haltiwanger wrote: On Mon, May 25, 2009 at 12:50 PM, Wolfgang Schuster < schuster.wolfg...@googlemail.com> wrote: Am 25.05.2009 um 18:30 schrieb John Haltiwanger: I am not averse to rolling my own, I am just confused why, if environments are so powerful and flexible (flexible meaning on

Re: [NTG-context] Seeking a Deeper ConTeXt: Questions for Initializing

> These paragraphs seems to contradict. ConTeXt is useful if you use an > environment more than once, but there are no ready-to-use ConTeXt > environments. You're probably confused by the term "environment". It means something very specific in ConTeXt, see for example section 2.3 of http://www.

Re: [NTG-context] Seeking a Deeper ConTeXt: Questions for Initializing

my personal favourite http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.comp.tex.context/44368/focus=46254, beware you might have trouble getting that to compile with a new version of LuaTeX. John Haltiwanger wrote: On Mon, May 25, 2009 at 12:50 PM, Wolfgang Schuster >

Re: [NTG-context] Seeking a Deeper ConTeXt: Questions for Initializing

On Mon, May 25, 2009 at 12:50 PM, Wolfgang Schuster < schuster.wolfg...@googlemail.com> wrote: > > Am 25.05.2009 um 18:30 schrieb John Haltiwanger: > > I am not averse to rolling my own, I am just confused why, if environments >> are so powerful and flexible (flexible meaning one can easily chang

Re: [NTG-context] Seeking a Deeper ConTeXt: Questions for Initializing

John Haltiwanger wrote: Okay, but that does imply that an organization can set up an environment and expect its members to use it. indeed, of seek help in doing so (not much different from setting up a housestyle for word ro whatever) I'm not sure what you mean by a representation of a nod

Re: [NTG-context] Seeking a Deeper ConTeXt: Questions for Initializing

> > I am not averse to rolling my own, I am just confused why, if environments >> are so powerful and flexible (flexible meaning one can easily change >> things, >> unlike document classes), there are no pre-rolled environments available. >> I >> am thinking here of standardized thesis environment

Re: [NTG-context] Seeking a Deeper ConTeXt: Questions for Initializing

Am 25.05.2009 um 18:30 schrieb John Haltiwanger: I am not averse to rolling my own, I am just confused why, if environments are so powerful and flexible (flexible meaning one can easily change things, unlike document classes), there are no pre-rolled environments available. I am thinking h

Re: [NTG-context] Seeking a Deeper ConTeXt: Questions for Initializing

John Haltiwanger wrote: On Sun, May 24, 2009 at 2:35 PM, Henning Hraban Ramm wrote: Am 2009-05-24 um 19:17 schrieb John Haltiwanger: 1) Can environment files be used across documents, or is it generally understood that every ConTeXt document requires its own environment formatting? (The latt

Re: [NTG-context] Seeking a Deeper ConTeXt: Questions for Initializing

On Sun, May 24, 2009 at 2:35 PM, Henning Hraban Ramm wrote: > Am 2009-05-24 um 19:17 schrieb John Haltiwanger: > > 1) Can environment files be used across documents, or is it generally >> understood that every ConTeXt document requires its own environment >> formatting? (The latter is the view of

Re: [NTG-context] Seeking a Deeper ConTeXt: Questions for Initializing

Am 2009-05-24 um 19:17 schrieb John Haltiwanger: 1) Can environment files be used across documents, or is it generally understood that every ConTeXt document requires its own environment formatting? (The latter is the view of someone on c.t.t, who said his perception of ConTeXt was that it

[NTG-context] Seeking a Deeper ConTeXt: Questions for Initializing

Hello, My name is John and I'm a nearly brand new TeX convert. All it took was one letter I wanted to look nice and now I know I will never craft an important document in another format again. Now, an obvious entry point is LaTeX, and indeed my first TeX document used this macro package. However,