[NTG-context] XeTeX in ConTeXt
Dear all, I have tried to upgrade ConTeXt using sudo ctxtools --updatecontext followed by sudo texmfstart texexec --make en and sudo texmfstart texexec --make --xetex en Following the upgrade a normal ConTeXt document runs perfectly but when I run XeConTeXt through TeXShop I get the readout below. When I go back to the TeXLive download of TeX everything works. Any advice would be welcome. Thanks, Charlie TeXExec | processing document 'SocialSpace.tex' TeXExec | no ctx file found TeXExec | tex processing method: context TeXExec | TeX run 1 TeXExec | writing option file SocialSpace.top TeXExec | using randomseed 80 TeXExec | tex engine: xetex TeXExec | tex format: cont-en This is XeTeXk, Version 3.141592-2.2-0.996 (Web2C 7.5.6) %-line parsing enabled. entering extended mode (./SocialSpace.tex ConTeXt ver: 2008.05.21 15:21 MKII fmt: 2008.5.23 int: english/ english language: language en is active system : cont-new loaded (/usr/local/texlive/2007/../texmf-local/tex/context/base/cont-new.tex systems : beware: some patches loaded from cont-new.tex (/usr/local/texlive/2007/../texmf-local/tex/context/base/cont-new.mkii) (/usr/local/texlive/2007/../texmf-local/tex/context/base/cont-mtx.tex)) system : cont-old loaded (/usr/local/texlive/2007/../texmf-local/tex/context/base/cont-old.tex loading : Context Old Macros ) system : cont-fil loaded (/usr/local/texlive/2007/../texmf-local/tex/context/base/cont-fil.tex loading : Context File Synonyms ) system : cont-sys.rme loaded (/usr/local/texlive/2007/../texmf-local/tex/context/user/cont-sys.rme (/usr/local/texlive/2007/../texmf-local/tex/context/base/type-tmf.tex) (/usr/local/texlive/2007/../texmf-local/tex/context/base/type-siz.tex) (/usr/local/texlive/2007/../texmf-local/tex/context/base/type-otf.tex) (/usr/local/texlive/2007/../texmf-local/tex/context/base/type- xtx.tex))kpathsea: Running mktextfm lmromanslant10-regular mktextfm: Running mf-nowin -progname=mf \mode:=ljfour; mag:=1; nonstopmode; input lmromanslant10-regular This is METAFONT, Version 2.71828 (Web2C 7.5.6) kpathsea: Running mktexmf lmromanslant10-regular ! I can't find file `lmromanslant10-regular'. * ...; nonstopmode; input lmromanslant10-regular Please type another input file name ! Emergency stop. * ...; nonstopmode; input lmromanslant10-regular Transcript written on mfput.log. grep: lmromanslant10-regular.log: No such file or directory mktextfm: `mf-nowin -progname=mf \mode:=ljfour; mag:=1; nonstopmode; input lmromanslant10-regular' failed to make lmromanslant10-regular.tfm. kpathsea: Appending font creation commands to missfont.log. bodyfont: 12pt rm is loaded ! Font \*7ptrmslrm*:=lmromanslant10-regular at 7.0pt not loadable: Metric (TFM) file or installed font not found. to be read again \relax \xxdododefinefont ...tspec {#4}\newfontidentifier \let \localrelativefontsiz... \dodosettextfamilyA ...amily \fontsize \endcsname \else \ifcsname \fontbody ... \dosettextfamily ...ttextfamily \scriptscriptfont \let \fontbody \scriptface... inserted text ...y \c!bf \dosettextfamily \c!sl \dosettextfamily \c! it \do... \synchronizetext ...athfonts \the \textstrategies \fi ... l.1 \definetypeface[Hoefler][rm][Xserif][Hoefler Text] ? x No pages of output. Transcript written on SocialSpace.log. TeXUtil | parsing file SocialSpace.tui TeXUtil | shortcuts : 169 TeXUtil | expansions: 308 TeXUtil | reductions: 0 TeXUtil | divisions : 0 TeXUtil | loaded files: 1 TeXUtil | temporary files: 0 TeXUtil | commands: 25 TeXUtil | programs: 0 TeXUtil | tuo file saved TeXExec | runtime: 100.320881 ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] XeTeX in ConTeXt
On Fri, May 23, 2008 at 12:55 PM, Charles Doherty wrote: Dear all, I have tried to upgrade ConTeXt using sudo ctxtools --updatecontext followed by sudo texmfstart texexec --make en and sudo texmfstart texexec --make --xetex en Following the upgrade a normal ConTeXt document runs perfectly but when I run XeConTeXt through TeXShop I get the readout below. When I go back to the TeXLive download of TeX everything works. Any advice would be welcome. In order to be able to use the latest ConTeXt, you need to: - install to the latest LM fonts - preferrably install the latest XeTeX For XeTeX, the easiest way is to upgrade it is to download it from here: http://minimals.contextgarden.net/current/bin/xetex/ and replace the old executable (maybe you need to set the executable flag after download) or simply issue something like: rsync -av rsync://contextgarden.net/minimals/current/bin/xetex/osx-yourarchitecture/bin/ /usr/texbin/ For Latin Modern fonts you can try (single line) rsync -av rsync://contextgarden.net/minimals/current/fonts/new/fonts/opentype/public/lm/ /path-to-tex-tree/fonts/opentype/public/lm/ and then run mktexlsr. Mojca ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] [XeTeX] longer ConTeXt+XeTeX compile time than before
On 2/1/07, Jeong Dalyoung wrote: Dear all, Recently I updated TeXlive and ConTeXt. After that the compiling time of a file under ConTeXt+XeTeX became longer than before. However, there is no change when I compiled the files using ConTeXt. I tested the same file using the previous ConTeXt version in the another Mac and found that there was no delay. The big difference between them as follows: 1. part of log file under new version . (/usr/local/gwTeX/texmf.pkgs/tex/context/base/cont-err.tex systems : no file 'cont-sys.tex', using 'cont-sys.rme' instead ) ) at here, it paused for long time stdin - speedtest.pdf [1] 8949 bytes written Output written on speedtest.pdf (1 page). Transcript written on speedtest.log. TeXUtil | parsing file speedtest.tui TeXUtil | shortcuts : 169 TeXUtil | expansions: 308 TeXUtil | reductions: 0 TeXUtil | divisions : 0 TeXUtil | loaded files: 1 TeXUtil | temporary files: 0 TeXUtil | commands: 25 TeXUtil | programs: 0 TeXUtil | tuo file saved TeXExec | runtime: 47.741367 In another Mac installed the previous version, speedtest.xdv - speedtest.pdf instead stdin - speedtest.pdfI don't know why two machines made pdf files in different ways, but I assume that stdin - speedtest.pdf is the cause of the delay. My powerbook is 1.33GHz PowerPC G4. If you have someone to blame, please blame me. I asked Hans if he could add an additional switch -output-driver=xdvipdfmx when running XeTeX. This means that the files are now converted to pdf with xdvipdfmx instead of xdv2pdf. Without that switch one cannot use otf fonts that reside in the texmf tree. That change has happened in the middle of January, so any older ConTeXt probably still runs with xdv2pdf. People on the XeTeX mailing list often ask how to run xelatex with -output-driver=xdvipdfmx switch from emacs etc. I hope that ConTeXt will soon use OpenType LM as the default font, so particularly for that reason, I doubt that switching back to xdv2pdf makes sense. How long is the time delay if you compare the two? If you want to change it on your own computer, find this line in tex.rb and remove the option which sets a different output driver: @@runoptions['xetex'] = [...,'-output-driver=xdvipdfmx ...'] Mojca ___ ntg-context mailing list ntg-context@ntg.nl http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
Re: [NTG-context] [XeTeX] longer ConTeXt+XeTeX compile time than before
On 1 Feb 2007, at 1:51 pm, Mojca Miklavec wrote: If you have someone to blame, please blame me. I asked Hans if he could add an additional switch -output-driver=xdvipdfmx when running XeTeX. This means that the files are now converted to pdf with xdvipdfmx instead of xdv2pdf. Without that switch one cannot use otf fonts that reside in the texmf tree. Right. But xdvipdfmx is also faster than xdv2pdf, in most cases. It may be that older ConTeXt scripts didn't run an xdv-to-pdf converter at all until the last of several passes; if you call xetex with the -no-pdf switch on all the preliminary runs, it will skip the conversion and therefore be faster. But I'm not sure exactly how Hans has been doing all this; ConTeXt is a mysterious black box, as far as I'm concerned! That change has happened in the middle of January, so any older ConTeXt probably still runs with xdv2pdf. People on the XeTeX mailing list often ask how to run xelatex with -output-driver=xdvipdfmx switch from emacs etc. I hope that ConTeXt will soon use OpenType LM as the default font, so particularly for that reason, I doubt that switching back to xdv2pdf makes sense. How long is the time delay if you compare the two? Something else to consider: if you repeat the test, are the results still the same? There can be a considerable extra delay on the first run after you change anything about your font configuration, because Apple Type Services has to rebuild a lot of cached information. But if you re-run the job, it may be a lot faster. JK ___ ntg-context mailing list ntg-context@ntg.nl http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
Re: [NTG-context] [XeTeX] longer ConTeXt+XeTeX compile time than before
Jonathan Kew wrote: It may be that older ConTeXt scripts didn't run an xdv-to-pdf converter at all until the last of several passes; if you call xetex with the -no-pdf switch on all the preliminary runs, it will skip the conversion and therefore be faster. But I'm not sure exactly how Hans has been doing all this; ConTeXt is a mysterious black box, as far as I'm concerned! i don't think that the backend issue will slwo down things much, but it may be that there is some slow path searching involved which can be traces by setting the right kpse switches (that i always forget and cannot quote now) Hans - Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | fax: 038 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com | www.pragma-pod.nl - ___ ntg-context mailing list ntg-context@ntg.nl http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
Re: [NTG-context] [XeTeX] XeTeX, ConTeXt, and utf-8 hyphenation patterns. / GREEK
Peter Heslin wrote: Hans Hagen [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: ctxtools --pat [en nl agr ...] ctxtools --pat --utf[en nl agr ...] the greek conversions were done with the help of a greek language users on the context list, so in case of troubles, so i cc there; bugs need to be fixed indeed Thanks for the tips. I have taken a closer look at the Greek patterns, and it seems as though they have not only small problems, but also major problems. (They will fail to find most hyphenation points before accented vowels.) I will try to come up with a patch, but I don't know any Ruby, so it will be an interesting challenge -- the changes required go beyond tweaking the existing code. The characters in the file lang-agr.pat are precomposed, Unicode normalization form D. But I'd like to support both normalization forms C and D, if possible, in the same pattern file. Is that goal compatible with Context? this is more related to (xe)tex than to context; i leave that to the greek experts on the context list Hans -- - Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | fax: 038 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com | www.pragma-pod.nl - ___ ntg-context mailing list ntg-context@ntg.nl http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
Re: [NTG-context] [XeTeX] XeTeX, ConTeXt, and utf-8 hyphenation patterns.
On 13 Jun 2006, at 8:25 am, Hans Hagen wrote: On a more general level, if both ConTeXt and XeTeX are engaged in converting legacy TeX hyphenation patterns to utf-8, should they be coordinated in order to avoid duplication of effort? anyone can use the patterns; of course bugs need to be sorted out, but given my experiences with pattern maintainance i will not drop them from context; too much has gone wrong in the past; but you can consider them to be generic so indeed we can avoid duplication of work. Indeed I have no desire to duplicate work. :) My main concern at this point relates to packaging and co-ordination between the different macro packages that load patterns; we can't expect latex users to be dependent on having context installed, or vice versa. Patterns belong in a base tex installation, where they can be available to any higher-level macro package. This needs to be sorted out among a wider group than this mailing list JK ___ ntg-context mailing list ntg-context@ntg.nl http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
Re: [NTG-context] [XeTeX] XeTeX, ConTeXt, and utf-8 hyphenation patterns.
Peter Heslin wrote: A little while ago, I said that I hoped to convert Dimitrios Filippou's ancient Greek hyphenation patterns (the elhyphen package) to utf-8, in order to use them with xetex. Before thinking about starting this work, I decided to look to see if anyone else had done it, and I came across something interesting in ConTeXt, which is not a package I normally use. There appears to be a whole subdirectory in the ConTeXt distribution that is full of utf-8 hyphenation patterns, including Filippou's ancient Greek ones, but also including German, French, etc. They are in the file: http://www.pragma-ade.com/context/current/cont-tmf.zip, in the tex/context/patterns directory. Can anyone who knows about ConTeXt explain about where these patterns come from and how it is that context manages to use these patterns? (I thought that non-xetex TeX could only use single-byte encoded patterns.) some time ago i decided to ship patterns with context because (1) there is no sound infrastructure in the tex world for managin gpatterns (2) i need encoding neutral patterns [most patterns are ec only] (3) i want control over what gets loaded in context (4) i wanted to get rid of every year's disappearing, renamed, changed patterns (5) apart from the fact that i wanted patterns that were not in a sense hard wired latex patterns If there is a script that was used to convert these from the source to utf-8, is it available? A quick glance at the ancient greek patterns (in the file lang-agr.pat) shows that there is a bug in the conversion that I'd like to report and fix. ctxtools --pat [en nl agr ...] ctxtools --pat --utf[en nl agr ...] the greek conversions were done with the help of a greek language users on the context list, so in case of troubles, so i cc there; bugs need to be fixed indeed in ctxtools.rb you can grep for 'agr' and see what conversions takes place for greek more info can be found in: http://www.pragma-ade.com/general/manuals/mpattern.pdf (also published in tugboat) there is a file lang-all.xml in the context distribution On a more general level, if both ConTeXt and XeTeX are engaged in converting legacy TeX hyphenation patterns to utf-8, should they be coordinated in order to avoid duplication of effort? anyone can use the patterns; of course bugs need to be sorted out, but given my experiences with pattern maintainance i will not drop them from context; too much has gone wrong in the past; but you can consider them to be generic so indeed we can avoid duplication of work. Hans - Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | fax: 038 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com | www.pragma-pod.nl - ___ ntg-context mailing list ntg-context@ntg.nl http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
Re: [NTG-context] [XeTeX] XeTeX, ConTeXt, and utf-8 hyphenation patterns.
Jonathan Kew wrote: On 13 Jun 2006, at 8:25 am, Hans Hagen wrote: On a more general level, if both ConTeXt and XeTeX are engaged in converting legacy TeX hyphenation patterns to utf-8, should they be coordinated in order to avoid duplication of effort? anyone can use the patterns; of course bugs need to be sorted out, but given my experiences with pattern maintainance i will not drop them from context; too much has gone wrong in the past; but you can consider them to be generic so indeed we can avoid duplication of work. Indeed I have no desire to duplicate work. :) My main concern at this point relates to packaging and co-ordination between the different macro packages that load patterns; we can't expect latex users to be dependent on having context installed, or vice versa. Patterns belong in a base tex installation, where they can be available to any higher-level macro package. well, the problem is that until now, most pattern files were basically latex oriented files; the same is kind of true with fonts: changes in related files and names take place, and are synced with latex and then bites contex users; i've kind of given up on that This needs to be sorted out among a wider group than this mailing list well, installing the lang-* pat files only is an option, as is adding tex/context/patterns to the xetex input path in the xetex input path variable (although i believe that the tree is searched anyway); also, given what people have to install nowadays, installing the context ipackage is not that big a burden (xetex binaries and associated libs are pretty big themselves anyway) Hans -- - Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | fax: 038 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com | www.pragma-pod.nl - ___ ntg-context mailing list ntg-context@ntg.nl http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
Re: [NTG-context] XeTeX w. ConTeXt question
sfpno wrote: Greetings, After a number of attempts (somewhat indistinguishable in my memory at this point) I've been able to run ConTeXt with XeTeX support (if that's the right nomenclature;). It works! But I do receive this error message: -- (/usr/local/TeTeX/share/texmf.tetex/tex/context/base/spec-tpd.tex systems : you should use pdfTeX binaries \wait= ) -- Looking in spec-tpd.tex, this error message comes from pdftexversion being undefined. Could someone clarify this for me? with xetex you should use texexec --xtx yourfile so that the xetex driver file is used; now you use the pdftex one Hans - Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | fax: 038 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com | www.pragma-pod.nl - ___ ntg-context mailing list ntg-context@ntg.nl http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
Re: [NTG-context] XeTeX w. ConTeXt question
Adam Lindsay wrote: Hmm. How are you invoking texexec? It should be texexec --xtx filename. You shouldn't use the --pdf command line switch, as that would probably confuse things (and cause the pdftex specials to be loaded). an ugly hack would be in the tpd driver to test for some primitive and load the xtx driver instead but i'm not sure if we should go that way Hans - Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | fax: 038 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com | www.pragma-pod.nl - ___ ntg-context mailing list ntg-context@ntg.nl http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
Re: [NTG-context] XeTeX w. ConTeXt question
Thanks for the response. I'm using: texexec : TeXExec 5.2.4 - ConTeXt / PRAGMA ADE 1997-2005 texutil : TeXUtil 9.0.0 - ConTeXt / PRAGMA ADE 1992-2004 tex : pdfeTeX, 3.141592-1.20a-2.2 (Web2C 7.5.3) context : ver: 2005.01.31 cont-en : ver: 2005.01.31 fmt: 2005.3.4 mes: english cont-nl : ver: 2005.01.31 fmt: 2005.3.4 mes: dutch and am also invoking texexec as you say: texexec --xtx File.tex I'm using Gerben's i-Installer to install teTeX. HmmI have some vague memory of a default setting [checking]. Yes, in cont-sys.tex, the \setupoutput is set to [pdftex]. When I comment it out, everything works fine. :) Regards, David On Mar 16, 2005, at 4:55 PM, Adam Lindsay wrote: sfpno said this at Wed, 16 Mar 2005 16:33:38 -0800: (/usr/local/TeTeX/share/texmf.tetex/tex/context/base/spec-tpd.tex systems : you should use pdfTeX binaries \wait= ) That error should be long gone by now. Which version of ConTeXt are you using? Looking in spec-tpd.tex, this error message comes from pdftexversion being undefined. Could someone clarify this for me? Hmm. How are you invoking texexec? It should be texexec --xtx filename. You shouldn't use the --pdf command line switch, as that would probably confuse things (and cause the pdftex specials to be loaded). best, adam -- =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Adam T. Lindsay, Computing Dept. [EMAIL PROTECTED] Lancaster University, InfoLab21+44(0)1524/510.514 Lancaster, LA1 4WA, UK Fax:+44(0)1524/510.492 -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- ___ ntg-context mailing list ntg-context@ntg.nl http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
[NTG-context] XeTeX w. ConTeXt question
Greetings, After a number of attempts (somewhat indistinguishable in my memory at this point) I've been able to run ConTeXt with XeTeX support (if that's the right nomenclature;). It works! But I do receive this error message: -- (/usr/local/TeTeX/share/texmf.tetex/tex/context/base/spec-tpd.tex systems : you should use pdfTeX binaries \wait= ) -- Looking in spec-tpd.tex, this error message comes from pdftexversion being undefined. Could someone clarify this for me? Kind regards ___ ntg-context mailing list ntg-context@ntg.nl http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context