Re: [NTG-context] Hyphenation patterns

2021-04-09 Thread Arthur Rosendahl
Denis’ latest question reminded me of an earlier query he had about hyphenation, asking why “applicable” and “obligated” were hyphenated by ConTeXt as ap-plic-a-ble and ob-lig-at-ed, and not ap-pli-ca-ble and ob-li-ga-te(d) like in Merriam-Webster (the discussion started at

Re: [NTG-context] Hyphenation patterns

2020-10-09 Thread Denis Maier
Am 09.10.2020 um 14:48 schrieb Hans Hagen: On 10/9/2020 9:01 AM, Denis Maier wrote: [...] I see. I've noticed lang-us.lua has a list of exceptions in it:   ["exceptions"]={    ["characters"]="abcdefghijlmnoprstuyz",    ["data"]="as-so-ciate as-so-ciates dec-li-na-tion oblig-a-tory

Re: [NTG-context] Hyphenation patterns

2020-10-09 Thread Hans Hagen
On 10/9/2020 9:01 AM, Denis Maier wrote: Am 09.10.2020 um 08:57 schrieb Taco Hoekwater: On 9 Oct 2020, at 08:52, Denis Maier wrote: Am 08.10.2020 um 19:05 schrieb Henning Hraban Ramm: \starttext {EN: \en\hyphenatedcoloredword{applicable}} {DE: \de\hyphenatedcoloredword{applicable}}

Re: [NTG-context] Hyphenation patterns

2020-10-09 Thread Denis Maier
Am 08.10.2020 um 19:05 schrieb Henning Hraban Ramm: \starttext {EN: \en\hyphenatedcoloredword{applicable}} {DE: \de\hyphenatedcoloredword{applicable}} \stoptext Wow, that's super helpful. The English pattern seems to be "ap-plic-a-ble" According to Meriam-Webster it should just be

Re: [NTG-context] Hyphenation patterns

2020-10-09 Thread Hans Hagen
On 10/9/2020 10:15 AM, Henning Hraban Ramm wrote: Am 09.10.2020 um 08:52 schrieb Denis Maier : Am 08.10.2020 um 19:05 schrieb Henning Hraban Ramm: \starttext {EN: \en\hyphenatedcoloredword{applicable}} {DE: \de\hyphenatedcoloredword{applicable}} \stoptext Wow, that's super helpful.

Re: [NTG-context] Hyphenation patterns

2020-10-09 Thread Hans Hagen
On 10/8/2020 7:05 PM, Henning Hraban Ramm wrote: Am 08.10.2020 um 17:41 schrieb Denis Maier : where can I find the hyphenation patterns used by ConTeXt? I have two wrongly hyphenated words, and I want to check whether this is due to incorrect patterns. (I tried the source browser... not

Re: [NTG-context] Hyphenation patterns

2020-10-09 Thread Henning Hraban Ramm
> Am 09.10.2020 um 08:52 schrieb Denis Maier : > > Am 08.10.2020 um 19:05 schrieb Henning Hraban Ramm: >> \starttext >> >> {EN: \en\hyphenatedcoloredword{applicable}} >> >> {DE: \de\hyphenatedcoloredword{applicable}} >> >> \stoptext >> > Wow, that's super helpful. BTW \hyphenatedword works

Re: [NTG-context] Hyphenation patterns

2020-10-09 Thread Denis Maier
Am 09.10.2020 um 08:57 schrieb Taco Hoekwater: On 9 Oct 2020, at 08:52, Denis Maier wrote: Am 08.10.2020 um 19:05 schrieb Henning Hraban Ramm: \starttext {EN: \en\hyphenatedcoloredword{applicable}} {DE: \de\hyphenatedcoloredword{applicable}} \stoptext Wow, that's super helpful. The

Re: [NTG-context] Hyphenation patterns

2020-10-09 Thread Taco Hoekwater
> On 9 Oct 2020, at 08:52, Denis Maier wrote: > > Am 08.10.2020 um 19:05 schrieb Henning Hraban Ramm: >> \starttext >> >> {EN: \en\hyphenatedcoloredword{applicable}} >> >> {DE: \de\hyphenatedcoloredword{applicable}} >> >> \stoptext >> > Wow, that's super helpful. The English pattern seems

[NTG-context] Hyphenation patterns

2020-10-08 Thread Denis Maier
Hi, where can I find the hyphenation patterns used by ConTeXt? I have two wrongly hyphenated words, and I want to check whether this is due to incorrect patterns. (I tried the source browser... not much luck so far.) The words are: 1. applicable => hyphenated as applic-able 2. obligated =>

Re: [NTG-context] Hyphenation patterns

2020-10-08 Thread Henning Hraban Ramm
> Am 08.10.2020 um 17:41 schrieb Denis Maier : > > where can I find the hyphenation patterns used by ConTeXt? I have two wrongly > hyphenated words, and I want to check whether this is due to incorrect > patterns. (I tried the source browser... not much luck so far.) The words are: > 1.

Re: [NTG-context] Hyphenation patterns

2020-10-08 Thread Tomas Hala
Hi, you can find patterns on this directory: texlive/2020/texmf-dist/tex/context/patterns/mkiv/ Best wishes, Tomáš Thu, Oct 08, 2020 ve 05:41:09PM +0200 Denis Maier napsal(a): # Hi, # # where can I find the hyphenation patterns used by ConTeXt? I have # two wrongly hyphenated words, and I

[NTG-context] Hyphenation patterns and adjusted kerning: ConTeXt vs. LuaTeX

2011-02-25 Thread Heilmann, Till A.
Maybe the ConTeXt community can be of assistance to the LuaTeX bunch ... As a new LuaTeX user, I came across the following problem: Using Lua(La)TeX, customized kerning of letter pairs (via the FeatureFile capability of fontspec) is ignored when it coincides with a possible hyphenation of a

Re: [NTG-context] Hyphenation patterns and adjusted kerning: ConTeXt vs. LuaTeX

2011-02-25 Thread Hans Hagen
On 25-2-2011 1:18, Heilmann, Till A. wrote: Maybe the ConTeXt community can be of assistance to the LuaTeX bunch ... As a new LuaTeX user, I came across the following problem: Using Lua(La)TeX, customized kerning of letter pairs (via the FeatureFile capability of fontspec) is ignored when it

Re: [NTG-context] Hyphenation patterns and adjusted kerning: ConTeXt vs. LuaTeX

2011-02-25 Thread Ulrike Fischer
Am Fri, 25 Feb 2011 14:35:10 +0100 schrieb Hans Hagen: As a new LuaTeX user, I came across the following problem: Using Lua(La)TeX, customized kerning of letter pairs (via the FeatureFile capability of fontspec) is ignored when it coincides with a possible hyphenation of a word (e.g. between

[NTG-context] Hyphenation patterns and adjusted kerning: ConTeXt vs. LuaTeX

2011-02-25 Thread Heilmann, Till A.
Am Fri, 25 Feb 2011 14:41:10 +0100 schrieb Ulrike Fischer: In base mode kerning and and hyphenation happen in the traditional tex way, so there is not much extra trickery taking place. Well, as you mention base mode: This reminded me that I had to force base mode to get my reencoding to

Re: [NTG-context] Hyphenation patterns and adjusted kerning: ConTeXt vs. LuaTeX

2011-02-25 Thread Ulrike Fischer
Am Fri, 25 Feb 2011 16:37:26 +0100 schrieb Heilmann, Till A.: Am Fri, 25 Feb 2011 14:41:10 +0100 schrieb Ulrike Fischer: In base mode kerning and and hyphenation happen in the traditional tex way, so there is not much extra trickery taking place. Well, as you mention base mode: This

Re: [NTG-context] Hyphenation patterns and adjusted kerning: ConTeXt vs. LuaTeX

2011-02-25 Thread Ulrike Fischer
Am Fri, 25 Feb 2011 16:45:31 +0100 schrieb Ulrike Fischer: Ah, yes, the transcript of my first example clearly shows fontspec operating in node mode. Yes, but I could also reproduce the problem without fontspec (only with luaotfload). Please excuse my naive asking: Is there any way to

[NTG-context] Hyphenation patterns and adjusted kerning: ConTeXt vs. LuaTeX

2011-02-25 Thread Heilmann, Till A.
Am Fri, 25 Feb 2011 16:45:31 +0100 schrieb Ulrike Fischer: Please excuse my naive asking: Is there any way to continue using fontspec's setmainfont command (it is convenient for someone unexperienced like me) and at the same force luaotfload into using base mode? The following seems to

Re: [NTG-context] Hyphenation patterns and adjusted kerning: ConTeXt vs. LuaTeX

2011-02-25 Thread Khaled Hosny
On Fri, Feb 25, 2011 at 03:41:10PM +0100, Ulrike Fischer wrote: So I think it isn't true that the manual of luaotfload claims By default mode=base is used. It used to be like that but we changed it a while ago, looks like I didn't update the manual. Regards, Khaled -- Khaled Hosny

Re: [NTG-context] Hyphenation patterns and adjusted kerning:?ConTeXt vs. LuaTeX

2011-02-25 Thread Khaled Hosny
On Fri, Feb 25, 2011 at 04:45:31PM +0100, Ulrike Fischer wrote: Ah, yes, the transcript of my first example clearly shows fontspec operating in node mode. Please excuse my naive asking: Is there any way to continue using fontspec's setmainfont command (it is convenient for someone

Re: [NTG-context] hyphenation patterns

2010-05-24 Thread Hans Hagen
On 24-5-2010 2:16, Mojca Miklavec wrote: There's no need to apologize. First, there's an infinite number of foreign names, so that one simply cannot get all of them right. I guess that Lju-bl-ja-na is not properly hyphenated either (Lu-bia-na why not just use hyphenmin values of 3 to prevent

Re: [NTG-context] hyphenation patterns

2010-05-24 Thread luigi scarso
On Sun, May 23, 2010 at 11:38 PM, Mojca Miklavec mojca.miklavec.li...@gmail.com wrote: hyphenate properly in Italian. Italian is a what-you-see-is-what-you-pronounce language (in contrast to English) Apart some traps like glicine vs tagliare where syllable 'gli' is spelled in completely

Re: [NTG-context] hyphenation patterns

2010-05-24 Thread rogutes
Mojca Miklavec (2010-05-24 02:16): Dear Claudio, Thanks a lot for your prompt reply. On Mon, May 24, 2010 at 00:39, Claudio Beccari wrote: Dear Mojca, no proper Italian word ends in ch (this digraph in normal Italian words is pronunced as k, not as č or ć). Nevertheless there are a

[NTG-context] hyphenation patterns

2010-05-23 Thread Rogutės Sparnuotos
Is there anyone here who understands hyphenation patterns? Such a document: \setuplayout[textwidth=0.2cm] \starttext \language[la] Manovich. \stoptext hyphenates 'Manovich' into Ma-no-vi-ch, while it should be Ma-no-vich. The same applies for Italian and Lithuanian languages (in LaTeX as well).

Re: [NTG-context] hyphenation patterns

2010-05-23 Thread Mojca Miklavec
On Mon, May 24, 2010 at 01:22, Rogutės Sparnuotos wrote: \setuplayout[textwidth=0.2cm] \starttext \language[la] Manovich. \stoptext hyphenates 'Manovich' into Ma-no-vi-ch, while it should be Ma-no-vich. The same applies for Italian and Lithuanian languages (in LaTeX as well). Could there

Re: [NTG-context] hyphenation patterns

2010-05-23 Thread Mojca Miklavec
Dear Claudio, Thanks a lot for your prompt reply. On Mon, May 24, 2010 at 00:39, Claudio Beccari wrote: Dear Mojca, no proper Italian word ends in ch (this digraph in normal Italian words is pronunced as k, not as č or ć). Nevertheless there are a number of surnames dating back to the old