Re: [NTG-context] Footnotes Without Text Marks?
At 22:30 13/01/2004, you wrote:
test \footnote[-]{{${}^1$}whatever}
\footnote[-]{\high{1}whatever}
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Re: [NTG-context] Footnotes Without Text Marks?
I had asked:
Is there a command or work-around in ConTeXt that's comparable to
Plain TeX's \vfootnote, to generate a footnote without a reference
mark in the text? >>
and Hans kindly responded with:
\starttext
test \footnote[-]{whatever}
\stoptext
Thank you very much, Hans! It worked perfectly. I also discovered
that the Plain TeX sequence:
test \footnote[-]{{${}^1$}whatever}
can be used with the bracketed hyphen to number the note itself while
leaving the text unsullied (which I mention in case it's not obvious
to some current or future reader of this thread); the superscript
math snippet can also be put elsewhere in the footnote than the
beginning, if one is so inclined.
Thanks again.
John
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Re: [NTG-context] Footnotes Without Text Marks?
At 18:18 10/01/2004, you wrote:
Dear Listmembers,
Is there a command or work-around in ConTeXt that's comparable to Plain
TeX's \vfootnote, to generate a footnote without a reference mark in the
text? I found options for marks with numbers, Roman numerals, and letters
(cont-enp.pdf, p. 83/99) but nothing for an invisible mark.
\starttext
test \footnote[-]{whatever}
\stoptext
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Re: [NTG-context] Footnotes Without Text Marks?
Dear Peter, Thank you very much for your clear and simple response. You wrote: to get correct hyphenation, the accented characters have to be in the font, as they are in Latin Modern or EC. In CM the é is a composition of an e and the accent. Now I understand. That makes a great deal of sense. I followed the installation instructions at: http://www.uoregon.edu/~koch/texshop/texshop.html for i-Installer and that included downloading (and I assume i-Installer installing) the CM-Super fonts. Since the readme says: http://www.ctan.org/tex-archive/fonts/ps-type1/cm-super/README "All European and Cyrillic writings are covered," would that mean that using CM-Super rather than CM would solve the problem? How do I get ConTeXt to switch to Super? Or am I missing something painfully obvious (as with composite vs. unitary symbols)? The readme also says, "The goal was to provide full support for a wide number of fonts used in LaTeX," which makes me suspect that I'll either have to move files around or somehow convert them for use by ConTeXt, but if someone could explain exactly how (and your saying that EC seems to be difficult to support with ConTeXt makes me think this process might not be trivial) I'd appreciate it, although if necessary I can just try to figure it out from the CM-Super FAQ and readme and Installation documents. I expect it would improve my character to do so, but I'm not sure I want it improved quite that much. It's not in the manual, but it seems that \useregime does nothing, it only pre-loads a "regime" to make it available for an \enableregime command. Since there is already a "\useregime[def,uni,ibm,win,il1,mac]" in regi-ini.tex, you'll need an extra \useregime only for other regimes. Thank you for explaining this as well, and for saving me a fruitless search in the manual. Best, John -- *** John McChesney-Young ** [EMAIL PROTECTED] ** Berkeley, California, U.S.A. *** ___ ntg-context mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
Re: [NTG-context] Footnotes Without Text Marks?
On Sat, 10 Jan 2004, John McChesney-Young wrote: > right direction. Here's the Overfull \hbox > message from the console, on the off-chance it's > relevant for the hyphenation problem: Hello John, if I understand it right, the hyphenation problem is related to the font: to get correct hyphenation, the accented characters have to be in the font, as they are in Latin Modern or EC. In CM the é is a composition of an e and the accent. * Latin Modern: works out of the box with the latest ConTeXt, but is still in development, the kerning for example has to be improved (see http://pc52.ifw.ing.tu-bs.de/~harders/latex/lmodern.html). It's a PS Type 1 font. * EC: seems to be difficult to support with ConTeXt, but I'll try it. It's a MetaFont font (bitmap). > Thank you very much for the solution to the > diacritical problem! Now I'm going to have to > look in the manual for the difference between > \useregime and \enableregime... It's not in the manual, but it seems that \useregime does nothing, it only pre-loads a "regime" to make it available for an \enableregime command. Since there is already a "\useregime[def,uni,ibm,win,il1,mac]" in regi-ini.tex, you'll need an extra \useregime only for other regimes. Cheers, Peter -- http://pmrb.free.fr/contact/ Film Search site: http://f-s.sf.net/ ___ ntg-context mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
Re: [NTG-context] Footnotes Without Text Marks?
Adam kindly suggested:
As you're on a mac, you're probably cut/pasting from your mail client
into your editor of choice (TeXShop? iTeXMac?).
Yes I did, into TeXShop.
Most likely that client
is saving your source file in Mac encoding. Therefore, you should be using:
\useregime[mac]
Instead of win or il1.
Hope that solves the A-macron problem, at least.
I was experimenting with the example posted by
Peter Münster, with a few more accented
évolutions to put them well into another line:
\fr
\useencoding[ec]
\enableregime[il1]
\starttext
évolution évolution évolution évolution évolution évolution évolution
évolution évolution évolution évolution évolution évolution évolution
evolution evolution evolution evolution evolution evolution evolution
evolution evolution
\stoptext
When I replaced the \enableregime[il1] with
\useregime[Mac] and saved the document in TeXShop
with MacOSRoman encoding the problem is ... um
... solved by the output completely ignoring the
first letter and turning the first word into
"volution"!
However, when I change the command sequence to
\enableregime[Mac] instead of \useregime the
e-aigue *does* work, so thank you very much! It
still doesn't hyphenate, but it's a step in the
right direction. Here's the Overfull \hbox
message from the console, on the off-chance it's
relevant for the hyphenation problem:
Overfull \hbox (17.09685pt too wide) in paragraph at lines 5--7
[]/cmr12/^^Sevolution ^^Sevolution ^^Sevolution ^^Sevolution ^^Sevolution ^^Sev
olution ^^Sevolution ^^Sevolution ^^Sevolution
[1.1{/usr/local/teTeX/share/texmf.local/fonts/map/pdftex/updmap/pdftex.map}]
systems: end file frenchtest at line 10
(end quote)
Thank you very much for the solution to the
diacritical problem! Now I'm going to have to
look in the manual for the difference between
\useregime and \enableregime...
John
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Re: [NTG-context] Footnotes Without Text Marks?
John McChesney-Young said this at Sat, 10 Jan 2004 09:18:07 -0800: >I've also been following the French hyphenation thread with some >interest; my outputs of all the samples posted so far (with TeXShop >1.34) have unfortunately displayed for >the original , and the word at the line end doesn't >hyphenate (the console reports an overfull \hbox, as I would expect). > >I'm very new to *TeX, have always worked with Macs (since OS 7.1), >and have essentially no Unix experience, so answers that assume >wholesale ignorance will be best appreciated and understood. :-) Hi, John. As you're on a mac, you're probably cut/pasting from your mail client into your editor of choice (TeXShop? iTeXMac?). Most likely that client is saving your source file in Mac encoding. Therefore, you should be using: \useregime[mac] Instead of win or il1. Hope that solves the A-macron problem, at least. adam -- =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Adam T. Lindsay [EMAIL PROTECTED] Computing Dept, Lancaster University +44(0)1524/594.537 Lancaster, LA1 4YR, UK Fax:+44(0)1524/593.608 -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- ___ ntg-context mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
[NTG-context] Footnotes Without Text Marks?
Dear Listmembers,
Is there a command or work-around in ConTeXt that's comparable to
Plain TeX's \vfootnote, to generate a footnote without a reference
mark in the text? I found options for marks with numbers, Roman
numerals, and letters (cont-enp.pdf, p. 83/99) but nothing for an
invisible mark.
I apologize for what might be a very obvious question, but I don't
find an answer in the manual nor via a Google advanced search of the
Pragma-ADE domain. I checked the archives and found a discussion from
last February in which Idris Hamid asked about changing symbol
options, to which Hans Hagen helpfully responded with a sample set-up:
\setupfootnotes
[conversion=HowAboutIt]
\defineconversion
[HowAboutIt]
[One,Two,Three]
I tried substituting both \null and {} for the "One,Two,Three" but
neither worked.
There was also some discussion of a proposed command
\setupfootnotemarker early and late last year, but I wasn't clear on
whether or how it had been implemented.
I've also been following the French hyphenation thread with some
interest; my outputs of all the samples posted so far (with TeXShop
1.34) have unfortunately displayed for
the original , and the word at the line end doesn't
hyphenate (the console reports an overfull \hbox, as I would expect).
I'm very new to *TeX, have always worked with Macs (since OS 7.1),
and have essentially no Unix experience, so answers that assume
wholesale ignorance will be best appreciated and understood. :-)
Thanks very much!
John
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