Re: [NTG-context] Installing ConTeXt Minimals on a Mac

2008-09-03 Thread Mojca Miklavec
On Tue, Sep 2, 2008 at 9:34 PM, Alan Bowen wrote:

 On Sep 2, 2008, at 14;54,40 , Mojca Miklavec wrote:

 setuptex should already be executable and no TeX file (the best way to
 do the change would be to use cp setuptex mysetuptex and then modify
 the latter), but if you want to make sure ... do
chmod a+x mysetuptex (or however your file is called)
 ls -l should show you the status of file (you should be able to see
 if the file is executable).

 Thanks. What confused me was that on my Mac the icon for the setuptex
 changed after I edited it.

 Anyway, the revised setuptex works perfectly with the
 ConTeXtMinimals.engine. Thank you again.

 But the question now is, which solution do you recommend? As a user,
 my preference is for the one that leaves setuptex alone and focuses on
 the engines that TeXShop uses, since it makes switching form MKII to
 MKIV very easy to do. (I would add that, as things stand now, I also
 have easy access to my Texlive 2007 setup.) However, I am much more
 interested in keeping my setup in line with development path that you,
 Hans, and the others set for the minimals, since, as I gather, they
 are the future of ConTeXt.

If *.engine works for you, feel free to use that one. You don't need
to bother about setuptex, really, unless you need to use TeX in bash.
And TeXWorks might be the new future of TeXShop anyway ...

Mojca
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Re: [NTG-context] Installing ConTeXt Minimals on a Mac

2008-09-02 Thread Mojca Miklavec
On Tue, Sep 2, 2008 at 12:50 AM, Alan Bowen wrote:

 With this change in all the engines---thanks to Aditya
 too---ConTeXt-pdftex.engine and ConTeXt-XeTeX.engine now work as they should
 (which is great!)
 But running ConTeXt-luatex.engine gets
 MtxRun | skipping configuration for
 /Applications/ConTeXtMinimals/tex/texmf-local/web2c from
 /Applications/ConTeXtMinimals/tex/texmf-cache/luatex-cache/context/3fc847143b06f084e10e73c8fbdf4ae2/trees/3beab8509a03fa29e95f93134a943a7f
 MtxRun | loading configuration for
 /Applications/ConTeXtMinimals/tex/texmf/web2c from
 /Applications/ConTeXtMinimals/tex/texmf-cache/luatex-cache/context/3fc847143b06f084e10e73c8fbdf4ae2/trees/d9ef00871d7b11751a275cffd8a85753
 MtxRun | error, no format found with name: cont-en
 MtxRun | total runtime: 0.010

Try if this helps:

export PATH=/Applications/ConTeXtMinimals/tex/texmf-osx-intel:$PATH
export TEXMFCACHE=/Applications/ConTeXtMinimals/tex/texmf-cache
context --make

I have no idea why the formats haven't been built previously though
(or maybe they were flying to some other location).

Mojca
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Re: [NTG-context] Installing ConTeXt Minimals on a Mac

2008-09-02 Thread Alan Bowen


On Sep 2, 2008, at 04;04,31 , Mojca Miklavec wrote:


On Tue, Sep 2, 2008 at 12:50 AM, Alan Bowen wrote:


With this change in all the engines---thanks to Aditya
too---ConTeXt-pdftex.engine and ConTeXt-XeTeX.engine now work as  
they should

(which is great!)
But running ConTeXt-luatex.engine gets
MtxRun | skipping configuration for
/Applications/ConTeXtMinimals/tex/texmf-local/web2c from
/Applications/ConTeXtMinimals/tex/texmf-cache/luatex-cache/context/ 
3fc847143b06f084e10e73c8fbdf4ae2/trees/ 
3beab8509a03fa29e95f93134a943a7f

MtxRun | loading configuration for
/Applications/ConTeXtMinimals/tex/texmf/web2c from
/Applications/ConTeXtMinimals/tex/texmf-cache/luatex-cache/context/ 
3fc847143b06f084e10e73c8fbdf4ae2/trees/ 
d9ef00871d7b11751a275cffd8a85753

MtxRun | error, no format found with name: cont-en
MtxRun | total runtime: 0.010


Try if this helps:

export PATH=/Applications/ConTeXtMinimals/tex/texmf-osx-intel:$PATH
export TEXMFCACHE=/Applications/ConTeXtMinimals/tex/texmf-cache
context --make

I have no idea why the formats haven't been built previously though
(or maybe they were flying to some other location).

Mojca


My ConTeXt-luatex.engine now has
!/bin/bash
export PATH=/Applications/ConTeXtMinimals/tex/texmf-osx-intel:$PATH
export TEXMFCACHE=/Applications/ConTeXtMinimals/tex/texmf-cache
context $1

and in Terminal I have run
context --make

When I try to typeset “Hello world!”, absolutely nothing happens—the  
TeXShop console window opens and stays blank.


Have I misunderstood you?

Alan

PS  export PATH=/Applications/ConTeXtMinimals/tex/texmf-osx-intel/bin: 
$PATH

makes no difference.
The other engines work well. A.





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[NTG-context] Installing ConTeXt Minimals on a Mac ... and using bibtex

2008-09-02 Thread Michael Green
I have the minimals installed in ~/Applications/context/

Context works great. However, I'm having trouble with bibtex.

[1] I export the following variables before using context.

. ~/Applications/context/tex/setuptex ~/Applications/context/tex
export TEXMFHOME='$HOME/Library/texmf'
export TEXMF='{$TEXMFHOME,!!$TEXMFPROJECT,!!$TEXMFFONTS,!! 
$TEXMFLOCAL,!!$TEXMFCONTEXT,!!$TEXMFEXTRA,!!$TEXMFMAIN}';

(I added export PATH=/Applications/ConTeXtMinimals/tex/texmf-osx-intel/ 
bin:$PATH but that didn't seem to make a difference in a couple of  
quick trials)

[2] The problem is that the minimal's bibtex can't find the bib file  
that I have stored in ~/Library/texmf/bibtex/bib/

It reports: I couldn't open database file bib-name.bib and I found  
no database files---while reading file file-name.aux

[3] which bibtex yields the path to the bibtex installed with the  
minimals:

/path-to-my-user-account/Applications/context/tex/texmf-osx-intel/bin/ 
bibtex

[4] When I open a new shell session, which bibtex points to /usr/ 
texbin/bibtex. In this new shell, bibtex finds the bib file.

It's a small thing, but if there's some other setting to make bibtex  
work in the same shell session that context does, that would be nice.

Thanks!

Michael
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Re: [NTG-context] Installing ConTeXt Minimals on a Mac ... and using bibtex

2008-09-02 Thread Aditya Mahajan
On Tue, 2 Sep 2008, Michael Green wrote:

 I have the minimals installed in ~/Applications/context/

 Context works great. However, I'm having trouble with bibtex.

 [1] I export the following variables before using context.

 . ~/Applications/context/tex/setuptex ~/Applications/context/tex
 export TEXMFHOME='$HOME/Library/texmf'
 export TEXMF='{$TEXMFHOME,!!$TEXMFPROJECT,!!$TEXMFFONTS,!!
 $TEXMFLOCAL,!!$TEXMFCONTEXT,!!$TEXMFEXTRA,!!$TEXMFMAIN}';

 (I added export PATH=/Applications/ConTeXtMinimals/tex/texmf-osx-intel/
 bin:$PATH but that didn't seem to make a difference in a couple of
 quick trials)

 [2] The problem is that the minimal's bibtex can't find the bib file
 that I have stored in ~/Library/texmf/bibtex/bib/

 It reports: I couldn't open database file bib-name.bib and I found
 no database files---while reading file file-name.aux

You need to add ~/Library/texmf/bibtex/bib to the variable BIBINPUTS, 
either in texmf.cnf or in your .bashrc/calling script.

 [3] which bibtex yields the path to the bibtex installed with the
 minimals:

 /path-to-my-user-account/Applications/context/tex/texmf-osx-intel/bin/
 bibtex

 [4] When I open a new shell session, which bibtex points to /usr/
 texbin/bibtex. In this new shell, bibtex finds the bib file.

 It's a small thing, but if there's some other setting to make bibtex
 work in the same shell session that context does, that would be nice.

You have two different installations of tex on your computer. By default 
the old distribution is used. When you run setuptex (with appropriate 
arguments) the new distribution is used first.

Aditya
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Re: [NTG-context] Installing ConTeXt Minimals on a Mac

2008-09-02 Thread Alan Bowen


On Sep 1, 2008, at 17;38,50 , Mojca Miklavec wrote:

On Mon, Sep 1, 2008 at 10:43 PM, Alan Bowen [EMAIL PROTECTED]  
wrote:


On Sep 1, 2008, at 13;43,19 , Mojca Miklavec wrote:


On Sep 1, 2008, at 12;24,41 , Mojca Miklavec wrote:

For setting HOMETEXMF you can help yourself, though it would be  
nice

if we provided a solution that worked out of the box. But I would
like
to get a confirmation from Hans that it's OK to do that.

I have modified the texmf.cnf in
./Applications/ConTeXtMinimals/tex/texmf/web2c with the lines
export HOMETEXMF=~/Library/texmf
export
TEXMF='{$TEXMFHOME,$TEXMFLOCAL,!!$TEXMFOS,!!$TEXMFCONTEXT,!!
$TEXMFEXTRA,!!$TEXMFMAIN}'
but ConTeXt still does not find my personal texmf folder


I probably told you wrong, but:
1.) you have HOMETEXMF first and then TEXMFHOME: these need to be
equal
2.) unless you are following (3), don't modify the file in texmf/,
but create
/Applications/ConTeXtMinimals/tex/texmf-local/web2c/texmf.cnf
instead, else the file will be overwritten at first update
3.) even then I'm not completely sure, but I guess that  
environmental

variables override settings in texmf.cnf, so you either need to
a) modify setuptex (rename it and run the renamed file instead of
setuptex)
b) only export PATH and not run setuptex at all; in that case values
from texmf.cnf will be used
- maybe you need to run mktexlsr or luatools --generate




OK. One quick reply just to see if I am on track.

I have created /Applications/ConTeXtMinimals/tex/texmf-local/web2c/
texmf.cnf
where texmf.cnf now has
export HOMETEXMF=~/Library/texmf
export TEXMF='{$HOMETEXMF,$TEXMFLOCAL,!!$TEXMFOS,!!$TEXMFCONTEXT,!!


(hopefully the line continues ...)

The lines you have written here belong to setuptex, not to
texmf.cnf. The syntax for setuptex is slightly different.

HOMETEXMF = ~/Library/texmf
# single line
TEXMF = {$HOMETEXMF,!!$TEXMFPROJECT,!!$TEXMFFONTS,!!$TEXMFLOCAL,!! 
$TEXMFCONTEXT,!!$TEXMFEXTRA,!!$TEXMFMAIN}


But try putting™
  export HOMETEXMF=~/Library/texmf
# single line
  export TEXMF='{$HOMETEXMF,$TEXMFLOCAL,!!$TEXMFOS,!!$TEXMFCONTEXT,!! 
$TEXMFEXTRA,!!$TEXMFMAIN}'


into setuptex (replace the old variables). The problem is that if you
adapt texmf.cnf only, you still override those settings with setuptex.


I hope I have understood this properly.  I now have
HOMETEXMF = ~/Library/texmf
TEXMF = {$HOMETEXMF,!!$TEXMFPROJECT,!!$TEXMFFONTS,!!$TEXMFLOCAL,!!
in my /ConteXtMinimals/tex/texmf-local/texmf.cnf.

I have also inserted the lines
export HOMETEXMF=~/Library/texmf
and
export TEXMF='{$HOMETEXMF,$TEXMFLOCAL,!!$TEXMFOS,!!$TEXMFCONTEXT,!! 
$TEXMFEXTRA,!!$TEXMFMAIN}'


into a file formed by copying the content of setuptex.

But before I can test this, assuming that so far is so good, I need to  
turn my setuptex (which is natively a .tex file) into unix executable.  
How do I do this?


Alan


There is one thing that you could try (I never use TeXShop, but
there's a change that it works):


~/Library/TeXShop/Engines/ConTeXt-pdfTeX.engine

#!/bin/bash
export PATH=/Applications/ConTeXtMinimals/tex/texmf-osx-intel:$PATH
texexec $1

~/Library/TeXShop/Engines/ConTeXt-luaTeX.engine

#!/bin/bash
export PATH=/Applications/ConTeXtMinimals/tex/texmf-osx-intel:$PATH
export TEXMFCACHE=/Applications/ConTeXtMinimals/tex/texmf-cache
context $1

~/Library/TeXShop/Engines/ConTeXt-XeTeX.engine

#!/bin/bash
export PATH=/Applications/ConTeXtMinimals/tex/texmf-osx-intel:$PATH
texexec --xtx $1

(sorry for two different proposals - I should probably only send you a
single one)

Mojca
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Re: [NTG-context] Installing ConTeXt Minimals on a Mac

2008-09-02 Thread Mojca Miklavec
On Tue, Sep 2, 2008 at 8:42 PM, Alan Bowen wrote:

 I have also inserted the lines
 export HOMETEXMF=~/Library/texmf
 and
 export
 TEXMF='{$HOMETEXMF,$TEXMFLOCAL,!!$TEXMFOS,!!$TEXMFCONTEXT,!!$TEXMFEXTRA,!!$TEXMFMAIN}'
 into a file formed by copying the content of setuptex.
 But before I can test this, assuming that so far is so good, I need to turn
 my setuptex (which is natively a .tex file) into unix executable. How do I
 do this?

A TeX file???

setuptex should already be executable and no TeX file (the best way to
do the change would be to use cp setuptex mysetuptex and then modify
the latter), but if you want to make sure ... do
chmod a+x mysetuptex (or however your file is called)
ls -l should show you the status of file (you should be able to see
if the file is executable).

Mojca
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Re: [NTG-context] Installing ConTeXt Minimals on a Mac ... and using bibtex

2008-09-02 Thread Michael Green
On Tue, 2 Sep 2008, Aditya Mahajan wrote:

 On Tue, 2 Sep 2008, Michael Green wrote:

 I have the minimals installed in ~/Applications/context/

 Context works great. However, I'm having trouble with bibtex.

 [1] I export the following variables before using context.

 . ~/Applications/context/tex/setuptex ~/Applications/context/tex
 export TEXMFHOME='$HOME/Library/texmf'
 export TEXMF='{$TEXMFHOME,!!$TEXMFPROJECT,!!$TEXMFFONTS,!!
 $TEXMFLOCAL,!!$TEXMFCONTEXT,!!$TEXMFEXTRA,!!$TEXMFMAIN}';

 (I added export PATH=/Applications/ConTeXtMinimals/tex/texmf-osx- 
 intel/
 bin:$PATH but that didn't seem to make a difference in a couple of
 quick trials)

 [2] The problem is that the minimal's bibtex can't find the bib file
 that I have stored in ~/Library/texmf/bibtex/bib/

 It reports: I couldn't open database file bib-name.bib and I found
 no database files---while reading file file-name.aux

 You need to add ~/Library/texmf/bibtex/bib to the variable BIBINPUTS,
 either in texmf.cnf or in your .bashrc/calling script.

Perfect. Thank you!

Michael
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Re: [NTG-context] Installing ConTeXt Minimals on a Mac

2008-09-02 Thread Alan Bowen

On Sep 2, 2008, at 14;54,40 , Mojca Miklavec wrote:

 On Tue, Sep 2, 2008 at 8:42 PM, Alan Bowen wrote:

 I have also inserted the lines
 export HOMETEXMF=~/Library/texmf
 and
 export
 TEXMF='{$HOMETEXMF,$TEXMFLOCAL,!!$TEXMFOS,!!$TEXMFCONTEXT,!! 
 $TEXMFEXTRA,!!$TEXMFMAIN}'
 into a file formed by copying the content of setuptex.
 But before I can test this, assuming that so far is so good, I need  
 to turn
 my setuptex (which is natively a .tex file) into unix executable.  
 How do I
 do this?

 A TeX file???

I did confess ignorance at the outset, didn’t I? 8-)

 setuptex should already be executable and no TeX file (the best way to
 do the change would be to use cp setuptex mysetuptex and then modify
 the latter), but if you want to make sure ... do
chmod a+x mysetuptex (or however your file is called)
 ls -l should show you the status of file (you should be able to see
 if the file is executable).

Thanks. What confused me was that on my Mac the icon for the setuptex  
changed after I edited it.

Anyway, the revised setuptex works perfectly with the  
ConTeXtMinimals.engine. Thank you again.

But the question now is, which solution do you recommend? As a user,  
my preference is for the one that leaves setuptex alone and focuses on  
the engines that TeXShop uses, since it makes switching form MKII to  
MKIV very easy to do. (I would add that, as things stand now, I also  
have easy access to my Texlive 2007 setup.) However, I am much more  
interested in keeping my setup in line with development path that you,  
Hans, and the others set for the minimals, since, as I gather, they  
are the future of ConTeXt.

Very best, Alan
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Re: [NTG-context] Installing ConTeXt Minimals on a Mac

2008-09-01 Thread Mojca Miklavec
Hello Alan,

I'm sorry for not replying earlier.

On Sat, Aug 30, 2008 at 12:16 PM, Alan Bowen wrote:
 What follows are some queries that I will be happy to write up for the wiki.
 The aim (hope?) is to develop a set of instructions for installing the
 minimals on a Mac that a Mac user without any real knowledge of unix (such
 as myself) can follow easily. (There are a number of people scattered around
 the world who help me in producing various publications; and since they too
 are not unix savvy, I need such instructions if we are to keep our
 installations functioning and up to date.)
 Once the ConTeXt minimals are installed in the Applications folder and the
 user can run
 \starttext
 Hello world!
 \stoptext
 which is where the wiki (Installationsection 1.2) currently leaves off,
 there still remain a few tasks.
 Specifically,
 (a) getting this ConTeXt installation to recognize a personal texmf
 directory

I usually put my files to texmf-local. Well, no, I actually copy
setuptex into mytex and make local modifications there, so that I
can include my own texmf trees (ugly solution). We just got a
complaint about non-existant TEXMFHOME during the conference. We took
setuptex from Hans' distribution and did not touch TEXMFHOME at all.
The problem is that Hans wanted to prevent old local files to
interefere with standalone tree, completely isolated from the outer
world.

We can either:
- fix setuptex, but I would like to have Hans' permission to do it
- create another setupfriendlytex :) and modify whatever we want there

The fix is super-easy: change
export HOMETEXMF=/nonexist
into
export HOMETEXMF=~/.texmf
(with or without the dot - up to you; MacTeX uses ~/Library/texmf or
something similar, I think, but should check)

And then add TEXMFHOME to the list:

export 
TEXMF='{$TEXMFHOME,$TEXMFLOCAL,!!$TEXMFOS,!!$TEXMFCONTEXT,!!$TEXMFEXTRA,!!$TEXMFMAIN}'

But I need someone to tell me to do that

 (b) running the various binaries (e.g., texmfstart, ctxtools) in
 /Applications/ConTeXtMinimals from Terminal

You can create ~/.bash_profile and put one of those lines into it (I
suggest (a), but (b) would suffice):
a) . /Applications/ConTeXtMinimals/tex/setuptex
b) export PATH=/Applications/ConTeXtMinimals/tex/texmf-osx-intel/bin:$PATH

Then, once you start a new shell, you'll see the programs in your
shell. /Applications/ConTeXtMinimals/tex assumes that you have
installed your files to that folder. Change accordingly. The minimals
are not a GUI program, so I would rather put it to some other folder,
but that's up to users. (I have the files simply in my home dir.)

The main problem is that GUI programs won't see that ~/.bash_profile,
so you need to follow the slighly off rules for TeXShop where there
are indeed quite some mistakes.

Can you please send the output of
find /Applications/ConTeXtMinimals | head -n 20
I suspect that you were setting the wrong folder during download of minimals.

 (c) establishing synchronization between  PDF output and its ConTeXt source.
 Currently, it does not seem to work (with TeXShop at least)
 Note, in the latest TeXShop there is
 Added support for SyncTeX. SyncTeX is new synchronization technology by
 Jerome Laurens which is included in TeX Live 2008 (but not earlier TeX
 distributions). The technology is built directly into pdfTeX and XeTeX. In
 modern TeX distributions, most typesetting actually calls pdfetex (even if
 using latex to output a dvi file), and thus the technology is available for
 such typesetting. To use the technology, add the flag --synctex=1
 Any advice on how to do (a), (b), and (c) will be much appreciated.

You can try
texexec --passon=-synctex=1 filename
but I didn't manage to make it work - it always pointed back to
\stoptext or \page, just as it pointed to the end of minipage in
LaTeX. Apart from the fact that I wasn't sure which tool to use to
make rsync work (when I was testing, TeXShop didn't support synctex
yet, TeXWorks behaved weird, and one would need to write support for
TextMate first, but when Patrick tried it, he have up after
discovering that it didn't work anyway).

While answering you I just got a reply from Jérôme:

 The problem comes from the synctex parser.
 I made different experiments and forgot to test the latest one with context.
 I will upload the new versions soon but I am afraid the various viewers must 
 be updated.
 You will have to wait a little longer...

So sadly I need to repeat the last sentence from him ...

Mojca
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Re: [NTG-context] Installing ConTeXt Minimals on a Mac

2008-09-01 Thread Alan Bowen

Hi, Mocja---

Many thanks for your reply: it is very encouraging. First things  
first, then: let’s make sure I have things in the right place.


The output of
find /Applications/ConTeXtMinimals | head -n 20
is
/Applications/ConTeXtMinimals
/Applications/ConTeXtMinimals/.DS_Store
/Applications/ConTeXtMinimals/bin
/Applications/ConTeXtMinimals/bin/mtx-update-old.lua
/Applications/ConTeXtMinimals/bin/mtx-update.lua
/Applications/ConTeXtMinimals/bin/mtxrun
/Applications/ConTeXtMinimals/bin/texlua
/Applications/ConTeXtMinimals/first-setup.sh
/Applications/ConTeXtMinimals/status-of-update.lua
/Applications/ConTeXtMinimals/tex
/Applications/ConTeXtMinimals/tex/.DS_Store
/Applications/ConTeXtMinimals/tex/setuptex
/Applications/ConTeXtMinimals/tex/setuptex.bat
/Applications/ConTeXtMinimals/tex/setuptex.tmf
/Applications/ConTeXtMinimals/tex/texmf
/Applications/ConTeXtMinimals/tex/texmf/.DS_Store
/Applications/ConTeXtMinimals/tex/texmf/doc
/Applications/ConTeXtMinimals/tex/texmf/doc/.DS_Store
/Applications/ConTeXtMinimals/tex/texmf/doc/fonts
/Applications/ConTeXtMinimals/tex/texmf/doc/fonts/.DS_Store

I will wait for word from you about the changes you suggest to fix (a)  
and for Jérôme to fix the sync parser (c).


I tried both
 . /Applications/ConTeXtMinimals/tex/setuptex
and
export PATH=/Applications/ConTeXtMinimals/tex/texmf-osx-intel/bin:$PATH
in ~/.bash_profile file (that is, in Users/alancbowen)
but when I typed
texmfstart ctxtools --contextversion
it listed only those in my texlive2007 distribution---no mention of  
the ConTeXtMinimals.


Cheers, Alan

On Sep 1, 2008, at 03;16,18 , Mojca Miklavec wrote:


Hello Alan,

I'm sorry for not replying earlier.

On Sat, Aug 30, 2008 at 12:16 PM, Alan Bowen wrote:
What follows are some queries that I will be happy to write up for  
the wiki.
The aim (hope?) is to develop a set of instructions for installing  
the
minimals on a Mac that a Mac user without any real knowledge of  
unix (such
as myself) can follow easily. (There are a number of people  
scattered around
the world who help me in producing various publications; and since  
they too

are not unix savvy, I need such instructions if we are to keep our
installations functioning and up to date.)
Once the ConTeXt minimals are installed in the Applications folder  
and the

user can run
\starttext
Hello world!
\stoptext
which is where the wiki (Installationsection 1.2) currently leaves  
off,

there still remain a few tasks.
Specifically,
(a) getting this ConTeXt installation to recognize a personal texmf
directory


I usually put my files to texmf-local. Well, no, I actually copy
setuptex into mytex and make local modifications there, so that I
can include my own texmf trees (ugly solution). We just got a
complaint about non-existant TEXMFHOME during the conference. We took
setuptex from Hans' distribution and did not touch TEXMFHOME at all.
The problem is that Hans wanted to prevent old local files to
interefere with standalone tree, completely isolated from the outer
world.

We can either:
- fix setuptex, but I would like to have Hans' permission to do it
- create another setupfriendlytex :) and modify whatever we want  
there


The fix is super-easy: change
   export HOMETEXMF=/nonexist
into
   export HOMETEXMF=~/.texmf
(with or without the dot - up to you; MacTeX uses ~/Library/texmf or
something similar, I think, but should check)

And then add TEXMFHOME to the list:

export TEXMF='{$TEXMFHOME,$TEXMFLOCAL,!!$TEXMFOS,!!$TEXMFCONTEXT,!! 
$TEXMFEXTRA,!!$TEXMFMAIN}'


But I need someone to tell me to do that


(b) running the various binaries (e.g., texmfstart, ctxtools) in
/Applications/ConTeXtMinimals from Terminal


You can create ~/.bash_profile and put one of those lines into it (I
suggest (a), but (b) would suffice):
a) . /Applications/ConTeXtMinimals/tex/setuptex
b) export PATH=/Applications/ConTeXtMinimals/tex/texmf-osx-intel/bin: 
$PATH


Then, once you start a new shell, you'll see the programs in your
shell. /Applications/ConTeXtMinimals/tex assumes that you have
installed your files to that folder. Change accordingly. The minimals
are not a GUI program, so I would rather put it to some other folder,
but that's up to users. (I have the files simply in my home dir.)

The main problem is that GUI programs won't see that ~/.bash_profile,
so you need to follow the slighly off rules for TeXShop where there
are indeed quite some mistakes.

Can you please send the output of
   find /Applications/ConTeXtMinimals | head -n 20
I suspect that you were setting the wrong folder during download of  
minimals.


(c) establishing synchronization between  PDF output and its  
ConTeXt source.

Currently, it does not seem to work (with TeXShop at least)
Note, in the latest TeXShop there is
Added support for SyncTeX. SyncTeX is new synchronization  
technology by
Jerome Laurens which is included in TeX Live 2008 (but not earlier  
TeX
distributions). The technology is built directly into pdfTeX and  
XeTeX. In
modern 

Re: [NTG-context] Installing ConTeXt Minimals on a Mac

2008-09-01 Thread Alan Bowen

Thanks, Michael! I will let you know how all this turns out.

Cheers, Alan

On Aug 31, 2008, at 20;05,05 , Michael Green wrote:


Alan Bowen wrote:

Thanks, Michael; this is very helpful. I will prepare a .bash_profile
file and try it out. Where did you put your .bash_profile file?

Alan


.bash_profile should be saved as a text file at the top level of  
your user account. That is, it should go right alongside the  
directories that are standardly installed, like Documents, Library,  
Movies, Music, Pictures, Public, and Sites.


Note 1: the dot in front means it won't be visible in the Finder,  
absent further fiddling and trickery.


Note 2: if you're using TeXShop, I think that these sorts of  
instructions go in engine files. If you look at the mac newbie  
installation instructions, you'll see that the bit about  
source ... is put into an engine file. I suspect, though I don't  
know, that the TEXMFHOME and TEXMF lines would be incorporated in a  
similar way.


This may be an easier route to trying this sort of thing out than  
using .bash_profile. It may be *much* easier if you're supporting  
other people. Again, I don't know.


By the way, Oliver B's problem appears to be resolved. Changes in  
the personal texmf tree are picked up now, without further  
intervention by the user.


Good luck!

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Re: [NTG-context] Installing ConTeXt Minimals on a Mac

2008-09-01 Thread Mojca Miklavec
On Mon, Sep 1, 2008 at 6:03 PM, Alan Bowen wrote:
 Hi, Mocja---
 Many thanks for your reply: it is very encouraging. First things first,
 then: let's make sure I have things in the right place.

 The output of
 find /Applications/ConTeXtMinimals | head -n 20
 is
 /Applications/ConTeXtMinimals
 /Applications/ConTeXtMinimals/.DS_Store
 /Applications/ConTeXtMinimals/bin
 /Applications/ConTeXtMinimals/bin/mtx-update-old.lua
 /Applications/ConTeXtMinimals/bin/mtx-update.lua
 /Applications/ConTeXtMinimals/bin/mtxrun
 /Applications/ConTeXtMinimals/bin/texlua
 /Applications/ConTeXtMinimals/first-setup.sh
 /Applications/ConTeXtMinimals/status-of-update.lua
 /Applications/ConTeXtMinimals/tex
 /Applications/ConTeXtMinimals/tex/.DS_Store
 /Applications/ConTeXtMinimals/tex/setuptex
 /Applications/ConTeXtMinimals/tex/setuptex.bat
 /Applications/ConTeXtMinimals/tex/setuptex.tmf
 /Applications/ConTeXtMinimals/tex/texmf
 /Applications/ConTeXtMinimals/tex/texmf/.DS_Store
 /Applications/ConTeXtMinimals/tex/texmf/doc
 /Applications/ConTeXtMinimals/tex/texmf/doc/.DS_Store
 /Applications/ConTeXtMinimals/tex/texmf/doc/fonts
 /Applications/ConTeXtMinimals/tex/texmf/doc/fonts/.DS_Store
 I will wait for word from you about the changes you suggest to fix (a) and
 for Jérôme to fix the sync parser (c).
 I tried both
  . /Applications/ConTeXtMinimals/tex/setuptex

Sorry ... Arthur told me that he fixed some issue, but it still
doesn't work (and probably has no chance to work), so you still need
both parts
. /Applications/ConTeXtMinimals/tex/setuptex
/Applications/ConTeXtMinimals/tex

 and
 export PATH=/Applications/ConTeXtMinimals/tex/texmf-osx-intel/bin:$PATH
 in ~/.bash_profile file (that is, in Users/alancbowen)
 but when I typed
 texmfstart ctxtools --contextversion
 it listed only those in my texlive2007 distribution---no mention of the
 ConTeXtMinimals.

I forgot to tell you that you need to either:
- run that command manually
- run bash
- open a new Terminal
after you do the changes

You don't need to run texmfstart, it's OK to call just ctxtools, but
--contextversion seems to be broken in the minimals (some broken
functionality in kpathsea-mimicking library).

You should be able to use
context --version
If context doesn't work, it means that you didn't set the PATH properly.

For setting HOMETEXMF you can help yourself, though it would be nice
if we provided a solution that worked out of the box. But I would like
to get a confirmation from Hans that it's OK to do that.

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Re: [NTG-context] Installing ConTeXt Minimals on a Mac

2008-09-01 Thread Mojca Miklavec
On Mon, Sep 1, 2008 at 7:27 PM, Alan Bowen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Mocja—
 This is great. I now have access to the binaries in ConTeXtMinimals/tex:
 context --version
 gives the right answer.
 Alan

 On Sep 1, 2008, at 12;24,41 , Mojca Miklavec wrote:

 For setting HOMETEXMF you can help yourself, though it would be nice
 if we provided a solution that worked out of the box. But I would like
 to get a confirmation from Hans that it's OK to do that.

 I have modified the texmf.cnf in
 ./Applications/ConTeXtMinimals/tex/texmf/web2c with the lines
 export HOMETEXMF=~/Library/texmf
 export
 TEXMF='{$TEXMFHOME,$TEXMFLOCAL,!!$TEXMFOS,!!$TEXMFCONTEXT,!!$TEXMFEXTRA,!!$TEXMFMAIN}'
 but ConTeXt still does not find my personal texmf folder

I probably told you wrong, but:
1.) you have HOMETEXMF first and then TEXMFHOME: these need to be equal
2.) unless you are following (3), don't modify the file in texmf/, but create
  /Applications/ConTeXtMinimals/tex/texmf-local/web2c/texmf.cnf
instead, else the file will be overwritten at first update
3.) even then I'm not completely sure, but I guess that environmental
variables override settings in texmf.cnf, so you either need to
  a) modify setuptex (rename it and run the renamed file instead of setuptex)
  b) only export PATH and not run setuptex at all; in that case values
from texmf.cnf will be used
- maybe you need to run mktexlsr or luatools --generate

 The opening lines of the console read:
 /Applications/ConTeXtMinimals/tex/setuptex: line 83: cd:
 /Applications/ConTeXtMinimals/context: No such file or directory

Where does this context come from? From .engine file for TeXShop?

 The argument  is not a valid TEXROOT path.
 There is no file /texmf/tex/plain/base/plain.tex
 Setting /Applications/ConTeXtMinimals/tex as TEXROOT instead.
 TeXExec | processing document 'c_2007-10-04_Hannah.tex'
 TeXExec | no ctx file found
 TeXExec | tex processing method: context
 TeXExec | TeX run 1
 TeXExec | writing option file c_2007-10-04_Hannah.top
 TeXExec | using randomseed 764
 TeXExec | tex engine: pdftex
 TeXExec | tex format: cont-en
 This is pdfTeX, Version 3.1415926-1.40.9-rc1 (Web2C 7.5.7)
  \write18 enabled.
  (/Applications/ConTeXtMinimals/tex/texmf-context/web2c/natural.tcx)
 entering extended mode
 (./c_2007-10-04_Hannah.tex
 ConTeXt  ver: 2008.08.29 10:30 MKII  fmt: 2008.8.29  int: english/english

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Re: [NTG-context] Installing ConTeXt Minimals on a Mac

2008-09-01 Thread Alan Bowen

Mocja—

This is great. I now have access to the binaries in ConTeXtMinimals/tex:
context --version
gives the right answer.

Alan


On Sep 1, 2008, at 12;24,41 , Mojca Miklavec wrote:


For setting HOMETEXMF you can help yourself, though it would be nice
if we provided a solution that worked out of the box. But I would like
to get a confirmation from Hans that it's OK to do that.


I have modified the texmf.cnf in ./Applications/ConTeXtMinimals/tex/ 
texmf/web2c with the lines

export HOMETEXMF=~/Library/texmf
export TEXMF='{$TEXMFHOME,$TEXMFLOCAL,!!$TEXMFOS,!!$TEXMFCONTEXT,!! 
$TEXMFEXTRA,!!$TEXMFMAIN}'

but ConTeXt still does not find my personal texmf folder
The opening lines of the console read:
/Applications/ConTeXtMinimals/tex/setuptex: line 83: cd: /Applications/ 
ConTeXtMinimals/context: No such file or directory

The argument  is not a valid TEXROOT path.
There is no file /texmf/tex/plain/base/plain.tex
Setting /Applications/ConTeXtMinimals/tex as TEXROOT instead.
TeXExec | processing document 'c_2007-10-04_Hannah.tex'
TeXExec | no ctx file found
TeXExec | tex processing method: context
TeXExec | TeX run 1
TeXExec | writing option file c_2007-10-04_Hannah.top
TeXExec | using randomseed 764
TeXExec | tex engine: pdftex
TeXExec | tex format: cont-en
This is pdfTeX, Version 3.1415926-1.40.9-rc1 (Web2C 7.5.7)
 \write18 enabled.
 (/Applications/ConTeXtMinimals/tex/texmf-context/web2c/natural.tcx)
entering extended mode
(./c_2007-10-04_Hannah.tex

ConTeXt  ver: 2008.08.29 10:30 MKII  fmt: 2008.8.29  int: english/ 
english




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Re: [NTG-context] Installing ConTeXt Minimals on a Mac

2008-09-01 Thread Alan Bowen
On Sep 1, 2008, at 13;43,19 , Mojca Miklavec wrote:

 On Mon, Sep 1, 2008 at 7:27 PM, Alan Bowen [EMAIL PROTECTED]  
 wrote:
 Mocja—
 This is great. I now have access to the binaries in ConTeXtMinimals/ 
 tex:
 context --version
 gives the right answer.
 Alan

 On Sep 1, 2008, at 12;24,41 , Mojca Miklavec wrote:

 For setting HOMETEXMF you can help yourself, though it would be nice
 if we provided a solution that worked out of the box. But I would  
 like
 to get a confirmation from Hans that it's OK to do that.

 I have modified the texmf.cnf in
 ./Applications/ConTeXtMinimals/tex/texmf/web2c with the lines
 export HOMETEXMF=~/Library/texmf
 export
 TEXMF='{$TEXMFHOME,$TEXMFLOCAL,!!$TEXMFOS,!!$TEXMFCONTEXT,!! 
 $TEXMFEXTRA,!!$TEXMFMAIN}'
 but ConTeXt still does not find my personal texmf folder

 I probably told you wrong, but:
 1.) you have HOMETEXMF first and then TEXMFHOME: these need to be  
 equal
 2.) unless you are following (3), don't modify the file in texmf/,  
 but create
  /Applications/ConTeXtMinimals/tex/texmf-local/web2c/texmf.cnf
 instead, else the file will be overwritten at first update
 3.) even then I'm not completely sure, but I guess that environmental
 variables override settings in texmf.cnf, so you either need to
  a) modify setuptex (rename it and run the renamed file instead of  
 setuptex)
  b) only export PATH and not run setuptex at all; in that case values
 from texmf.cnf will be used
 - maybe you need to run mktexlsr or luatools --generate

I need to think about this and learn more.

 The opening lines of the console read:
 /Applications/ConTeXtMinimals/tex/setuptex: line 83: cd:
 /Applications/ConTeXtMinimals/context: No such file or directory

 Where does this context come from? From .engine file for TeXShop?

 The argument  is not a valid TEXROOT path.
 There is no file /texmf/tex/plain/base/plain.tex
 Setting /Applications/ConTeXtMinimals/tex as TEXROOT instead.
 TeXExec | processing document 'c_2007-10-04_Hannah.tex'
 TeXExec | no ctx file found
 TeXExec | tex processing method: context
 TeXExec | TeX run 1
 TeXExec | writing option file c_2007-10-04_Hannah.top
 TeXExec | using randomseed 764
 TeXExec | tex engine: pdftex
 TeXExec | tex format: cont-en
 This is pdfTeX, Version 3.1415926-1.40.9-rc1 (Web2C 7.5.7)
 \write18 enabled.
 (/Applications/ConTeXtMinimals/tex/texmf-context/web2c/natural.tcx)
 entering extended mode
 (./c_2007-10-04_Hannah.tex
 ConTeXt  ver: 2008.08.29 10:30 MKII  fmt: 2008.8.29  int: english/ 
 english

This comes from the console window that TeXShop opens when it typesets  
a file.



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Re: [NTG-context] Installing ConTeXt Minimals on a Mac

2008-09-01 Thread Alan Bowen

On Sep 1, 2008, at 13;43,19 , Mojca Miklavec wrote:

 On Sep 1, 2008, at 12;24,41 , Mojca Miklavec wrote:

 For setting HOMETEXMF you can help yourself, though it would be nice
 if we provided a solution that worked out of the box. But I would  
 like
 to get a confirmation from Hans that it's OK to do that.

 I have modified the texmf.cnf in
 ./Applications/ConTeXtMinimals/tex/texmf/web2c with the lines
 export HOMETEXMF=~/Library/texmf
 export
 TEXMF='{$TEXMFHOME,$TEXMFLOCAL,!!$TEXMFOS,!!$TEXMFCONTEXT,!! 
 $TEXMFEXTRA,!!$TEXMFMAIN}'
 but ConTeXt still does not find my personal texmf folder

 I probably told you wrong, but:
 1.) you have HOMETEXMF first and then TEXMFHOME: these need to be  
 equal
 2.) unless you are following (3), don't modify the file in texmf/,  
 but create
  /Applications/ConTeXtMinimals/tex/texmf-local/web2c/texmf.cnf
 instead, else the file will be overwritten at first update
 3.) even then I'm not completely sure, but I guess that environmental
 variables override settings in texmf.cnf, so you either need to
  a) modify setuptex (rename it and run the renamed file instead of  
 setuptex)
  b) only export PATH and not run setuptex at all; in that case values
 from texmf.cnf will be used
 - maybe you need to run mktexlsr or luatools --generate


OK. One quick reply just to see if I am on track.

I have created /Applications/ConTeXtMinimals/tex/texmf-local/web2c/ 
texmf.cnf
where texmf.cnf now has
export HOMETEXMF=~/Library/texmf
export TEXMF='{$HOMETEXMF,$TEXMFLOCAL,!!$TEXMFOS,!!$TEXMFCONTEXT,!!

I have run
mktexlsr
luatools --generate

And still no luck, I am sorry to say. Perhaps I have misunderstood  
your remarks about HOMETEXMF and TEXMFHOME.

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Re: [NTG-context] Installing ConTeXt Minimals on a Mac

2008-09-01 Thread Mojca Miklavec
On Mon, Sep 1, 2008 at 10:18 PM, Alan Bowen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 My ConTeXtMinimals.engine file currently has the the following lines:
 #!/bin/bash
 source /Applications/ConTeXtMinimals/tex/setuptex 
 /Applications/ConTeXtMinimals/context/tex
 texexec $1

Remove context from the second argument:
   source /Applications/ConTeXtMinimals/tex/setuptex
/Applications/ConTeXtMinimals/tex
instead of
   source /Applications/ConTeXtMinimals/tex/setuptex
/Applications/ConTeXtMinimals/context/tex

 I am puzzled that
 chmod a+x ~/Library/TeXShop/ConTeXtMinimals.engine
 gets
 chmod: /Users/alancbowen/Library/TeXShop/ConTeXtMinimals.engine: No such
 file or directory

Because you have probably created a file
   ~/Library/TeXShop/Engines/ConTeXtMinimals.engine
and not a file
   ~/Library/TeXShop/ConTeXtMinimals.engine
(tiny differences), so the second works.

 while
 chmod 775 ~/Library/TeXShop/Engines/ConTeXtMinimals.engine
 seems to work (at least there are no error messages).
 I am not quite sure what you mean here, but if I reduce
 ConTeXtMinimals.engine to
 source /Applications/ConTeXtMinimals/tex/setuptex
 I get
 The argument /Users/alancbowen/Desktop/TeXTesting/hello.tex is not a valid
 TEXROOT path.
 There is no file
 /Users/alancbowen/Desktop/TeXTesting/hello.tex/texmf/tex/plain/base/plain.tex
 Setting /Applications/ConTeXtMinimals/tex as TEXROOT instead.
 and then nothing.

Sorry - I thought that the issue has been fixed, but it hasn't. So you need
   source /Applications/ConTeXtMinimals/tex/setuptex
/Applications/ConTeXtMinimals/tex
only
   source /Applications/ConTeXtMinimals/tex/setuptex
does not suffice. It does on Windows, but apparently there's no way to
figure out location of the sourced script under linux (or at least I
don't know any).

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Re: [NTG-context] Installing ConTeXt Minimals on a Mac

2008-09-01 Thread Mojca Miklavec
On Mon, Sep 1, 2008 at 10:43 PM, Alan Bowen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On Sep 1, 2008, at 13;43,19 , Mojca Miklavec wrote:

 On Sep 1, 2008, at 12;24,41 , Mojca Miklavec wrote:

 For setting HOMETEXMF you can help yourself, though it would be nice
 if we provided a solution that worked out of the box. But I would
 like
 to get a confirmation from Hans that it's OK to do that.

 I have modified the texmf.cnf in
 ./Applications/ConTeXtMinimals/tex/texmf/web2c with the lines
 export HOMETEXMF=~/Library/texmf
 export
 TEXMF='{$TEXMFHOME,$TEXMFLOCAL,!!$TEXMFOS,!!$TEXMFCONTEXT,!!
 $TEXMFEXTRA,!!$TEXMFMAIN}'
 but ConTeXt still does not find my personal texmf folder

 I probably told you wrong, but:
 1.) you have HOMETEXMF first and then TEXMFHOME: these need to be
 equal
 2.) unless you are following (3), don't modify the file in texmf/,
 but create
  /Applications/ConTeXtMinimals/tex/texmf-local/web2c/texmf.cnf
 instead, else the file will be overwritten at first update
 3.) even then I'm not completely sure, but I guess that environmental
 variables override settings in texmf.cnf, so you either need to
  a) modify setuptex (rename it and run the renamed file instead of
 setuptex)
  b) only export PATH and not run setuptex at all; in that case values
 from texmf.cnf will be used
 - maybe you need to run mktexlsr or luatools --generate


 OK. One quick reply just to see if I am on track.

 I have created /Applications/ConTeXtMinimals/tex/texmf-local/web2c/
 texmf.cnf
 where texmf.cnf now has
 export HOMETEXMF=~/Library/texmf
 export TEXMF='{$HOMETEXMF,$TEXMFLOCAL,!!$TEXMFOS,!!$TEXMFCONTEXT,!!

(hopefully the line continues ...)

The lines you have written here belong to setuptex, not to
texmf.cnf. The syntax for setuptex is slightly different.

HOMETEXMF = ~/Library/texmf
# single line
TEXMF = 
{$HOMETEXMF,!!$TEXMFPROJECT,!!$TEXMFFONTS,!!$TEXMFLOCAL,!!$TEXMFCONTEXT,!!$TEXMFEXTRA,!!$TEXMFMAIN}

But try putting
   export HOMETEXMF=~/Library/texmf
# single line
   export 
TEXMF='{$HOMETEXMF,$TEXMFLOCAL,!!$TEXMFOS,!!$TEXMFCONTEXT,!!$TEXMFEXTRA,!!$TEXMFMAIN}'

into setuptex (replace the old variables). The problem is that if you
adapt texmf.cnf only, you still override those settings with setuptex.

There is one thing that you could try (I never use TeXShop, but
there's a change that it works):


~/Library/TeXShop/Engines/ConTeXt-pdfTeX.engine

#!/bin/bash
export PATH=/Applications/ConTeXtMinimals/tex/texmf-osx-intel:$PATH
texexec $1

~/Library/TeXShop/Engines/ConTeXt-luaTeX.engine

#!/bin/bash
export PATH=/Applications/ConTeXtMinimals/tex/texmf-osx-intel:$PATH
export TEXMFCACHE=/Applications/ConTeXtMinimals/tex/texmf-cache
context $1

~/Library/TeXShop/Engines/ConTeXt-XeTeX.engine

#!/bin/bash
export PATH=/Applications/ConTeXtMinimals/tex/texmf-osx-intel:$PATH
texexec --xtx $1

(sorry for two different proposals - I should probably only send you a
single one)

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Re: [NTG-context] Installing ConTeXt Minimals on a Mac

2008-09-01 Thread Alan Bowen

On Sep 1, 2008, at 17;19,53 , Mojca Miklavec wrote:

 On Mon, Sep 1, 2008 at 10:18 PM, Alan Bowen [EMAIL PROTECTED]  
 wrote:

 My ConTeXtMinimals.engine file currently has the the following lines:
 #!/bin/bash
 source /Applications/ConTeXtMinimals/tex/setuptex /Applications/ 
 ConTeXtMinimals/context/tex
 texexec $1

 Remove context from the second argument:
   source /Applications/ConTeXtMinimals/tex/setuptex
 /Applications/ConTeXtMinimals/tex
 instead of
   source /Applications/ConTeXtMinimals/tex/setuptex
 /Applications/ConTeXtMinimals/context/tex

Done---and the console now reads (without complaint)
Setting /Applications/ConTeXtMinimals/tex as TEXROOT.
as desired when typesetting begins. Many thanks for your patience,  
Mocja!

 text deleted

Alan

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Re: [NTG-context] Installing ConTeXt Minimals on a Mac

2008-09-01 Thread Aditya Mahajan
On Mon, 1 Sep 2008, Mojca Miklavec wrote:

 only
   source /Applications/ConTeXtMinimals/tex/setuptex
 does not suffice. It does on Windows, but apparently there's no way to
 figure out location of the sourced script under linux (or at least I
 don't know any).

Well, surprisingly a simple

. ~/tex/setuptex

works fine here (Linux + Zsh shell).

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Re: [NTG-context] Installing ConTeXt Minimals on a Mac

2008-09-01 Thread Mojca Miklavec
On Tue, Sep 2, 2008 at 12:13 AM, Alan Bowen wrote:
 Mocja---I will start with the second proposal and save the first for
 tomorrow.

 ~/Library/TeXShop/Engines/ConTeXt-luaTeX.engine

 #!/bin/bash
 export PATH=/Applications/ConTeXtMinimals/tex/texmf-osx-intel:$PATH
 export TEXMFCACHE=/Applications/ConTeXtMinimals/tex/texmf-cache
 context $1

 Done. No joy. ConTeXt complains:
 /Users/alancbowen/Library/TeXShop/Engines/ConTeXt-luaTeX.engine: line 4:
 context: command not found

Oh, sorry again.
   export PATH=/Applications/ConTeXtMinimals/tex/texmf-osx-intel/bin:$PATH

But then: you have an intel processor, right? If not, change that line
accordingly. (Check if you have binaries in that folder.)

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Re: [NTG-context] Installing ConTeXt Minimals on a Mac

2008-09-01 Thread Andrea Valle

 Many thanks for your patience,
Mocja!

(and three)

Yes, Mojca is really patient...
:)

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Re: [NTG-context] Installing ConTeXt Minimals on a Mac

2008-09-01 Thread Aditya Mahajan
On Mon, 1 Sep 2008, Alan Bowen wrote:

 Mocja---I will start with the second proposal and save the first for 
 tomorrow.

 On Sep 1, 2008, at 17;38,50 , Mojca Miklavec wrote:

 On Mon, Sep 1, 2008 at 10:43 PM, Alan Bowen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 On Sep 1, 2008, at 13;43,19 , Mojca Miklavec wrote:
 
 On Sep 1, 2008, at 12;24,41 , Mojca Miklavec wrote:
 
 For setting HOMETEXMF you can help yourself, though it would be nice
 if we provided a solution that worked out of the box. But I would
 like
 to get a confirmation from Hans that it's OK to do that.
 
 I have modified the texmf.cnf in
 ./Applications/ConTeXtMinimals/tex/texmf/web2c with the lines
 export HOMETEXMF=~/Library/texmf
 export
 TEXMF='{$TEXMFHOME,$TEXMFLOCAL,!!$TEXMFOS,!!$TEXMFCONTEXT,!!
 $TEXMFEXTRA,!!$TEXMFMAIN}'
 but ConTeXt still does not find my personal texmf folder
 
 I probably told you wrong, but:
 1.) you have HOMETEXMF first and then TEXMFHOME: these need to be
 equal
 2.) unless you are following (3), don't modify the file in texmf/,
 but create
 /Applications/ConTeXtMinimals/tex/texmf-local/web2c/texmf.cnf
 instead, else the file will be overwritten at first update
 3.) even then I'm not completely sure, but I guess that environmental
 variables override settings in texmf.cnf, so you either need to
 a) modify setuptex (rename it and run the renamed file instead of
 setuptex)
 b) only export PATH and not run setuptex at all; in that case values
 from texmf.cnf will be used
 - maybe you need to run mktexlsr or luatools --generate
 
 
 OK. One quick reply just to see if I am on track.
 
 I have created /Applications/ConTeXtMinimals/tex/texmf-local/web2c/
 texmf.cnf
 where texmf.cnf now has
 export HOMETEXMF=~/Library/texmf
 export TEXMF='{$HOMETEXMF,$TEXMFLOCAL,!!$TEXMFOS,!!$TEXMFCONTEXT,!!
 
 (hopefully the line continues ...)
 
 The lines you have written here belong to setuptex, not to
 texmf.cnf. The syntax for setuptex is slightly different.
 
 HOMETEXMF = ~/Library/texmf
 # single line
 TEXMF = 
 {$HOMETEXMF,!!$TEXMFPROJECT,!!$TEXMFFONTS,!!$TEXMFLOCAL,!!$TEXMFCONTEXT,!!$TEXMFEXTRA,!!$TEXMFMAIN}
 
 But try putting
  export HOMETEXMF=~/Library/texmf
 # single line
  export 
 TEXMF='{$HOMETEXMF,$TEXMFLOCAL,!!$TEXMFOS,!!$TEXMFCONTEXT,!!$TEXMFEXTRA,!!$TEXMFMAIN}'
 
 into setuptex (replace the old variables). The problem is that if you
 adapt texmf.cnf only, you still override those settings with setuptex.
 
 There is one thing that you could try (I never use TeXShop, but
 there's a change that it works):
 
 
 ~/Library/TeXShop/Engines/ConTeXt-pdfTeX.engine
 
 #!/bin/bash
 export PATH=/Applications/ConTeXtMinimals/tex/texmf-osx-intel:$PATH
 texexec $1

Shouldn't that be

export PATH=/Applications/ConTeXtMinimals/tex/texmf-osx-intel/bin:$PATH

(Note the /bin at the end of the path, and same for all commands below).

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Re: [NTG-context] Installing ConTeXt Minimals on a Mac

2008-09-01 Thread Alan Bowen
Mocja---I will start with the second proposal and save the first for  
tomorrow.


On Sep 1, 2008, at 17;38,50 , Mojca Miklavec wrote:

On Mon, Sep 1, 2008 at 10:43 PM, Alan Bowen [EMAIL PROTECTED]  
wrote:


On Sep 1, 2008, at 13;43,19 , Mojca Miklavec wrote:


On Sep 1, 2008, at 12;24,41 , Mojca Miklavec wrote:

For setting HOMETEXMF you can help yourself, though it would be  
nice

if we provided a solution that worked out of the box. But I would
like
to get a confirmation from Hans that it's OK to do that.

I have modified the texmf.cnf in
./Applications/ConTeXtMinimals/tex/texmf/web2c with the lines
export HOMETEXMF=~/Library/texmf
export
TEXMF='{$TEXMFHOME,$TEXMFLOCAL,!!$TEXMFOS,!!$TEXMFCONTEXT,!!
$TEXMFEXTRA,!!$TEXMFMAIN}'
but ConTeXt still does not find my personal texmf folder


I probably told you wrong, but:
1.) you have HOMETEXMF first and then TEXMFHOME: these need to be
equal
2.) unless you are following (3), don't modify the file in texmf/,
but create
/Applications/ConTeXtMinimals/tex/texmf-local/web2c/texmf.cnf
instead, else the file will be overwritten at first update
3.) even then I'm not completely sure, but I guess that  
environmental

variables override settings in texmf.cnf, so you either need to
a) modify setuptex (rename it and run the renamed file instead of
setuptex)
b) only export PATH and not run setuptex at all; in that case values
from texmf.cnf will be used
- maybe you need to run mktexlsr or luatools --generate




OK. One quick reply just to see if I am on track.

I have created /Applications/ConTeXtMinimals/tex/texmf-local/web2c/
texmf.cnf
where texmf.cnf now has
export HOMETEXMF=~/Library/texmf
export TEXMF='{$HOMETEXMF,$TEXMFLOCAL,!!$TEXMFOS,!!$TEXMFCONTEXT,!!


(hopefully the line continues ...)

The lines you have written here belong to setuptex, not to
texmf.cnf. The syntax for setuptex is slightly different.

HOMETEXMF = ~/Library/texmf
# single line
TEXMF = {$HOMETEXMF,!!$TEXMFPROJECT,!!$TEXMFFONTS,!!$TEXMFLOCAL,!! 
$TEXMFCONTEXT,!!$TEXMFEXTRA,!!$TEXMFMAIN}


But try putting
  export HOMETEXMF=~/Library/texmf
# single line
  export TEXMF='{$HOMETEXMF,$TEXMFLOCAL,!!$TEXMFOS,!!$TEXMFCONTEXT,!! 
$TEXMFEXTRA,!!$TEXMFMAIN}'


into setuptex (replace the old variables). The problem is that if you
adapt texmf.cnf only, you still override those settings with setuptex.

There is one thing that you could try (I never use TeXShop, but
there's a change that it works):


~/Library/TeXShop/Engines/ConTeXt-pdfTeX.engine

#!/bin/bash
export PATH=/Applications/ConTeXtMinimals/tex/texmf-osx-intel:$PATH
texexec $1


Done. The “Hello world” file processes but using my texlive 2007  
distribution.

TeXExec | processing document 'hello.tex'
TeXExec | no ctx file found
TeXExec | tex processing method: context
TeXExec | TeX run 1
TeXExec | writing option file hello.top
TeXExec | using randomseed 780
TeXExec | tex engine: pdftex
TeXExec | tex format: cont-en
This is pdfTeXk, Version 3.141592-1.40.3 (Web2C 7.5.6)
 %-line parsing enabled.
 (/usr/local/texlive/2007/texmf/web2c/natural.tcx)
entering extended mode
(./hello.tex

ConTeXt  ver: 2008.08.04 10:10 MKII  fmt: 2008.8.31  int: english/ 
english



~/Library/TeXShop/Engines/ConTeXt-luaTeX.engine

#!/bin/bash
export PATH=/Applications/ConTeXtMinimals/tex/texmf-osx-intel:$PATH
export TEXMFCACHE=/Applications/ConTeXtMinimals/tex/texmf-cache
context $1


Done. No joy. ConTeXt complains:
/Users/alancbowen/Library/TeXShop/Engines/ConTeXt-luaTeX.engine: line  
4: context: command not found



~/Library/TeXShop/Engines/ConTeXt-XeTeX.engine

#!/bin/bash
export PATH=/Applications/ConTeXtMinimals/tex/texmf-osx-intel:$PATH
texexec --xtx $1


Done. I t works, but
TeXExec | processing document 'hello.tex'
TeXExec | no ctx file found
TeXExec | tex processing method: context
TeXExec | TeX run 1
TeXExec | writing option file hello.top
TeXExec | using randomseed 403
TeXExec | tex engine: xetex
TeXExec | tex format: cont-en
This is XeTeXk, Version 3.141592-2.2-0.996 (Web2C 7.5.6)
 %-line parsing enabled.
entering extended mode
(./hello.tex

ConTeXt  ver: 2007.01.12 15:56 MKII  fmt: 2007.5.18  int: english/ 
english


seems odd. I do not use XeTeX but I am guessing that this version is  
also in my Texlive 2007 distribution too.


I do like the idea of defining different engines for pdftex and  
luatex, since it address one of my earlier queries about switching  
between the two with the minimals.


More tomorrow.

Warm thanks. Alan


(sorry for two different proposals - I should probably only send you a
single one)

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Re: [NTG-context] Installing ConTeXt Minimals on a Mac

2008-09-01 Thread Alan Bowen


On Sep 1, 2008, at 18;22,17 , Mojca Miklavec wrote:


On Tue, Sep 2, 2008 at 12:13 AM, Alan Bowen wrote:

Mocja---I will start with the second proposal and save the first for
tomorrow.

~/Library/TeXShop/Engines/ConTeXt-luaTeX.engine

#!/bin/bash
export PATH=/Applications/ConTeXtMinimals/tex/texmf-osx-intel:$PATH
export TEXMFCACHE=/Applications/ConTeXtMinimals/tex/texmf-cache
context $1

Done. No joy. ConTeXt complains:
/Users/alancbowen/Library/TeXShop/Engines/ConTeXt-luaTeX.engine:  
line 4:

context: command not found


Oh, sorry again.
  export PATH=/Applications/ConTeXtMinimals/tex/texmf-osx-intel/bin: 
$PATH


With this change in all the engines---thanks to Aditya too---ConTeXt- 
pdftex.engine and ConTeXt-XeTeX.engine now work as they should (which  
is great!)

But running ConTeXt-luatex.engine gets
MtxRun | skipping configuration for /Applications/ConTeXtMinimals/tex/ 
texmf-local/web2c from /Applications/ConTeXtMinimals/tex/texmf-cache/ 
luatex-cache/context/3fc847143b06f084e10e73c8fbdf4ae2/trees/ 
3beab8509a03fa29e95f93134a943a7f
MtxRun | loading configuration for /Applications/ConTeXtMinimals/tex/ 
texmf/web2c from /Applications/ConTeXtMinimals/tex/texmf-cache/luatex- 
cache/context/3fc847143b06f084e10e73c8fbdf4ae2/trees/ 
d9ef00871d7b11751a275cffd8a85753

MtxRun | error, no format found with name: cont-en
MtxRun | total runtime: 0.010


But then: you have an intel processor, right? If not, change that line
accordingly. (Check if you have binaries in that folder.)


I have an Intel processor and there is a bin folder in ./Applications/ 
ConTeXtMinimals/tex/texmf-osx-intel/



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Re: [NTG-context] Installing ConTeXt Minimals on a Mac

2008-09-01 Thread Alan Bowen
Mocja---Sorry! I should have added that with the ConTeXt-pdftex.engine  
and minimals now see my personal texmf too. So it is possible to get  
the desired outcome without changing setuptex.


Still, I will test out your first proposal tomorrow and report.

Cheers x 3. And many thanks.

Alan
On Sep 1, 2008, at 18;50,19 , Alan Bowen wrote:



On Sep 1, 2008, at 18;22,17 , Mojca Miklavec wrote:


On Tue, Sep 2, 2008 at 12:13 AM, Alan Bowen wrote:

Mocja---I will start with the second proposal and save the first for
tomorrow.

~/Library/TeXShop/Engines/ConTeXt-luaTeX.engine

#!/bin/bash
export PATH=/Applications/ConTeXtMinimals/tex/texmf-osx-intel:$PATH
export TEXMFCACHE=/Applications/ConTeXtMinimals/tex/texmf-cache
context $1

Done. No joy. ConTeXt complains:
/Users/alancbowen/Library/TeXShop/Engines/ConTeXt-luaTeX.engine:  
line 4:

context: command not found


Oh, sorry again.
  export PATH=/Applications/ConTeXtMinimals/tex/texmf-osx-intel/bin: 
$PATH


With this change in all the engines---thanks to Aditya too---ConTeXt- 
pdftex.engine and ConTeXt-XeTeX.engine now work as they should  
(which is great!)

But running ConTeXt-luatex.engine gets
MtxRun | skipping configuration for /Applications/ConTeXtMinimals/ 
tex/texmf-local/web2c from /Applications/ConTeXtMinimals/tex/texmf- 
cache/luatex-cache/context/3fc847143b06f084e10e73c8fbdf4ae2/trees/ 
3beab8509a03fa29e95f93134a943a7f
MtxRun | loading configuration for /Applications/ConTeXtMinimals/tex/ 
texmf/web2c from /Applications/ConTeXtMinimals/tex/texmf-cache/ 
luatex-cache/context/3fc847143b06f084e10e73c8fbdf4ae2/trees/ 
d9ef00871d7b11751a275cffd8a85753

MtxRun | error, no format found with name: cont-en
MtxRun | total runtime: 0.010

But then: you have an intel processor, right? If not, change that  
line

accordingly. (Check if you have binaries in that folder.)


I have an Intel processor and there is a bin folder in ./ 
Applications/ConTeXtMinimals/tex/texmf-osx-intel/



Mojca

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Re: [NTG-context] Installing ConTeXt Minimals on a Mac

2008-08-31 Thread Michael Green
On Aug 30, 2008, Alan Bowen wrote:

 What follows are some queries that I will be happy to write up for the
 wiki. The aim (hope?) is to develop a set of instructions for
 installing the minimals on a Mac that a Mac user without any real
 knowledge of unix (such as myself) can follow easily. (There are a
 number of people scattered around the world who help me in producing
 various publications; and since they too are not unix savvy, I need
 such instructions if we are to keep our installations functioning and
 up to date.)

 Once the ConTeXt minimals are installed in the Applications folder and
 the user can run
 \starttext
 Hello world!
 \stoptext
 which is where the wiki (Installationsection 1.2) currently leaves
 off, there still remain a few tasks.

 Specifically,

 (a) getting this ConTeXt installation to recognize a personal texmf
 directory

 (b) running the various binaries (e.g., texmfstart, ctxtools) in /
 Applications/ConTeXtMinimals from Terminal

 (c) establishing synchronization between  PDF output and its ConTeXt
 source. Currently, it does not seem to work (with TeXShop at least)
   Note, in the latest TeXShop there is
 Added support for SyncTeX. SyncTeX is new synchronization technology
 by Jerome Laurens which is included in TeX Live 2008 (but not earlier
 TeX distributions). The technology is built directly into pdfTeX and
 XeTeX. In modern TeX distributions, most typesetting actually calls
 pdfetex (even if using latex to output a dvi file), and thus the
 technology is available for such typesetting. To use the technology,
 add the flag --synctex=1

 Any advice on how to do (a), (b), and (c) will be much appreciated.

 Alan



I installed ConTeXt Minimals in my home directory's Applications  
folder (not the applications folder for the system as a whole). I'm  
reluctant to write in because my understanding of what I'm doing is  
shallow and I haven't used my solution beyond a few simple tests.

With that said, adding the following three lines to .bash_profile  
seems to work for me.

source ~/Applications/context/tex/setuptex ~/Applications/context/tex
TEXMFHOME=$HOME/Library/texmf
TEXMF={$TEXMFHOME,!!$TEXMFPROJECT,!!$TEXMFFONTS,!!$TEXMFLOCAL,!! 
$TEXMFCONTEXT,!!$TEXMFEXTRA,!!$TEXMFMAIN}

Here is how I understand what I did.

(A) I think that the second and third lines (TEXMFHOME ... and  
TEXMF ...) handle issue (a).

I copied them from a message I read on the developer list.

http://archive.contextgarden.net/message/ 
20080607.102038.6212fc3c.en.html

I should add that the author, Oliver Buerschaper wrote to complain  
that additions to the personal texmf tree were not automatically  
recognized. He had to run luatools --generate again after changing  
something. I have no idea if this has been fixed since June, when he  
wrote his message. I assume it has, but haven't tested it.

(B) I think that the first line (source ...) handles issue (b). It  
tells the shell to look for TeX binaries in ~/Applications/context/tex.

This is the second instruction from the Linux/Mac/BSD section of the  
wiki's installation page, modified for my particular case.

http://wiki.contextgarden.net/ConTeXt_Minimals#Linux.2FMac.2FFreeBSD

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Re: [NTG-context] Installing ConTeXt Minimals on a Mac

2008-08-31 Thread Alan Bowen
Thanks, Michael; this is very helpful. I will prepare a .bash_profile  
file and try it out. Where did you put your .bash_profile file?

Alan

On Aug 31, 2008, at 13;09,32 , Michael Green wrote:

 On Aug 30, 2008, Alan Bowen wrote:

 What follows are some queries that I will be happy to write up for  
 the
 wiki. The aim (hope?) is to develop a set of instructions for
 installing the minimals on a Mac that a Mac user without any real
 knowledge of unix (such as myself) can follow easily. (There are a
 number of people scattered around the world who help me in producing
 various publications; and since they too are not unix savvy, I need
 such instructions if we are to keep our installations functioning and
 up to date.)

 Once the ConTeXt minimals are installed in the Applications folder  
 and
 the user can run
 \starttext
 Hello world!
 \stoptext
 which is where the wiki (Installationsection 1.2) currently leaves
 off, there still remain a few tasks.

 Specifically,

 (a) getting this ConTeXt installation to recognize a personal texmf
 directory

 (b) running the various binaries (e.g., texmfstart, ctxtools) in /
 Applications/ConTeXtMinimals from Terminal

 (c) establishing synchronization between  PDF output and its ConTeXt
 source. Currently, it does not seem to work (with TeXShop at least)
  Note, in the latest TeXShop there is
 Added support for SyncTeX. SyncTeX is new synchronization technology
 by Jerome Laurens which is included in TeX Live 2008 (but not earlier
 TeX distributions). The technology is built directly into pdfTeX and
 XeTeX. In modern TeX distributions, most typesetting actually calls
 pdfetex (even if using latex to output a dvi file), and thus the
 technology is available for such typesetting. To use the technology,
 add the flag --synctex=1

 Any advice on how to do (a), (b), and (c) will be much appreciated.

 Alan



 I installed ConTeXt Minimals in my home directory's Applications
 folder (not the applications folder for the system as a whole). I'm
 reluctant to write in because my understanding of what I'm doing is
 shallow and I haven't used my solution beyond a few simple tests.

 With that said, adding the following three lines to .bash_profile
 seems to work for me.

 source ~/Applications/context/tex/setuptex ~/Applications/context/tex
 TEXMFHOME=$HOME/Library/texmf
 TEXMF={$TEXMFHOME,!!$TEXMFPROJECT,!!$TEXMFFONTS,!!$TEXMFLOCAL,!!
 $TEXMFCONTEXT,!!$TEXMFEXTRA,!!$TEXMFMAIN}

 Here is how I understand what I did.

 (A) I think that the second and third lines (TEXMFHOME ... and
 TEXMF ...) handle issue (a).

 I copied them from a message I read on the developer list.

 http://archive.contextgarden.net/message/
 20080607.102038.6212fc3c.en.html

 I should add that the author, Oliver Buerschaper wrote to complain
 that additions to the personal texmf tree were not automatically
 recognized. He had to run luatools --generate again after changing
 something. I have no idea if this has been fixed since June, when he
 wrote his message. I assume it has, but haven't tested it.

 (B) I think that the first line (source ...) handles issue (b). It
 tells the shell to look for TeX binaries in ~/Applications/context/ 
 tex.

 This is the second instruction from the Linux/Mac/BSD section of the
 wiki's installation page, modified for my particular case.

 http://wiki.contextgarden.net/ConTeXt_Minimals#Linux.2FMac.2FFreeBSD

 Michael
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Re: [NTG-context] Installing ConTeXt Minimals on a Mac

2008-08-31 Thread Michael Green

Alan Bowen wrote:

Thanks, Michael; this is very helpful. I will prepare a .bash_profile
file and try it out. Where did you put your .bash_profile file?

Alan


.bash_profile should be saved as a text file at the top level of your  
user account. That is, it should go right alongside the directories  
that are standardly installed, like Documents, Library, Movies, Music,  
Pictures, Public, and Sites.


Note 1: the dot in front means it won't be visible in the Finder,  
absent further fiddling and trickery.


Note 2: if you're using TeXShop, I think that these sorts of  
instructions go in engine files. If you look at the mac newbie  
installation instructions, you'll see that the bit about source ...  
is put into an engine file. I suspect, though I don't know, that the  
TEXMFHOME and TEXMF lines would be incorporated in a similar way.


This may be an easier route to trying this sort of thing out than  
using .bash_profile. It may be *much* easier if you're supporting  
other people. Again, I don't know.


By the way, Oliver B's problem appears to be resolved. Changes in the  
personal texmf tree are picked up now, without further intervention by  
the user.


Good luck!

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[NTG-context] Installing ConTeXt Minimals on a Mac

2008-08-30 Thread Alan Bowen
What follows are some queries that I will be happy to write up for the  
wiki. The aim (hope?) is to develop a set of instructions for  
installing the minimals on a Mac that a Mac user without any real  
knowledge of unix (such as myself) can follow easily. (There are a  
number of people scattered around the world who help me in producing  
various publications; and since they too are not unix savvy, I need  
such instructions if we are to keep our installations functioning and  
up to date.)


Once the ConTeXt minimals are installed in the Applications folder and  
the user can run

\starttext
Hello world!
\stoptext
which is where the wiki (Installationsection 1.2) currently leaves  
off, there still remain a few tasks.


Specifically,

(a) getting this ConTeXt installation to recognize a personal texmf  
directory


(b) running the various binaries (e.g., texmfstart, ctxtools) in / 
Applications/ConTeXtMinimals from Terminal


(c) establishing synchronization between  PDF output and its ConTeXt  
source. Currently, it does not seem to work (with TeXShop at least)

Note, in the latest TeXShop there is
Added support for SyncTeX. SyncTeX is new synchronization technology  
by Jerome Laurens which is included in TeX Live 2008 (but not earlier  
TeX distributions). The technology is built directly into pdfTeX and  
XeTeX. In modern TeX distributions, most typesetting actually calls  
pdfetex (even if using latex to output a dvi file), and thus the  
technology is available for such typesetting. To use the technology,  
add the flag --synctex=1


Any advice on how to do (a), (b), and (c) will be much appreciated.

Alan






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